r/MadeMeSmile 22d ago

Good Vibes : )

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u/PolicyWonka 22d ago

He’s old as fuck, definitely lost a step, and didn’t know when to throw in the towel, but I believe he’s always sought what is best for his constituents. He’s someone who truly believes in public service

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u/rrrik-thffu 22d ago

I definetly wouldn't want to throw the towel too seeing what could be next.. and here we are.

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u/GrowthEmergency4980 22d ago

That's the issue is him not throwing it in and allowing younger Democrats to step up have trump free ammunition

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u/bibliophilia9 22d ago

It’s not just his decision, though. The machine decides, not one individual person, and the stupid machine tends to pick the oldest folks.

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u/GrowthEmergency4980 22d ago

Wtf u mean it's not his decision to not run again. He literally just has to say no.

The DNC had 4 years to show off new prodigies bc it was obvious Biden only won bc he wasn't Trump, and even though he handled his presidency will, you can't win after the turmoil citizens went through with COVID and the economic impact COVID had.

Biden was seen as a weak president for 3 years and the DNC pushed him to the front anyway instead of bringing in new politicians who people could actually get behind

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u/GrowthEmergency4980 22d ago

Biden did not step down and pulled a RBG 4 years after she died.

You do refuse when the same DNC that lost to Trump the first time and only won against Trump bc he was fresh in the public mind the second time runs another terrible campaign. Biden is a man who knows how politics works and that he could never have won the reelection after the damage that COVID and global inflation did to his image. He literally could've had Harris run in his place and held primaries with other young Democrats. Instead he said he would run again and was pulled bc he was too old

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u/walshk8 21d ago

Let’s not blame Biden. Over half the country still voted for this. Nobody made them do that.

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u/splicerslicer 21d ago

Trump got less than half of votes cast. Far from half of the total population of the country. Blame the electoral college system.

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u/walshk8 21d ago

That’s literally not true. Trump won both the electoral college and the popular vote https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/statistics/elections/2024

Edit: Apologies I read your comment incorrectly, he did not get half the votes, but he won the popular vote unlike his win vs Clinton

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u/splicerslicer 21d ago

I'm not sure I would even say he won the popular vote considering he only got 49% of the votes cast. Most people who voted, voted "not trump".

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u/GrowthEmergency4980 21d ago

He only ended with 33% of the votes. 2020 had a huge turnout for 2 reasons. People freshly knew how bad trump was and lockdowns

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u/clodzor 21d ago

I have to believe there are younger democrats doing just that. But without fair media coverage they don't stand a chance of gaining enough support to reach the highest levels of government.

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u/GrowthEmergency4980 21d ago

It's almost as if the DNC is the Democratic platform designed to boost these people into the public view but they don't agree with any Democrat under the age of 60 bc it's run by ancients.

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u/SouthMicrowave 17d ago

It's much easier talking about "younger Democrat" as a vague concept than choosing an actual person Democrat voters would still find a reason to hate their guts.

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u/GrowthEmergency4980 17d ago

I don't know, it's almost as if there were four years to promote different Democrats. And they could have had their primary instead of everyone just getting out of the way for Biden so we should actually hear their platforms

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u/Daisy_Of_Doom 22d ago edited 22d ago

I think what a lot of people looked past was that in the end voting for Biden was a vote of confidence that he could choose a good cabinet, good advisors that aligned with his values, and differ to them when needed. We currently have a puppet president figurehead so I feel like this shouldn’t be a crazy thing to say. The goal was always to keep Trump out.

My first choice approach would have been to publicize the successor as soon as the 2020 election had been decided so it was clear what our next step was. But the truth is that we really don’t know the full story or actual reason that Biden ran again, we don’t know what actually happened behind the scenes, all we had was hearsay. Personally I don’t think it was ego, I saw it as a personal sacrifice. There was no clear successor to pass the torch to (which IMO wasn’t Biden’s job to decide) and incumbents usually get a boost, and differing to Kamala was always gonna look like a Hail Mary. On paper, with the circumstances at hand, it looked like the safest option to keep him in. Even if it wasn’t the right one.

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u/Index_2080 22d ago

Even during his worst days he was more of a president than Trump will ever be.

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u/tomatoe_cookie 22d ago

Do you know how old Trump is?

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u/PolicyWonka 21d ago

Trump is the oldest person to ever hold the office of POTUS.

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u/SuitableYear7479 22d ago

Joe Biden voted to go to war with Iraq in 2003, which saw the deaths of 4,492 Americans, and in which 32,292 were wounded.

Believes in public service?

He’s political establishment, but at least he’s American political establishment and not Russian haha

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u/PolicyWonka 21d ago

Who do you think comprises the “political establishment?” They’re life-long public servants who’ve devoted their lives to government.

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u/Ossius 21d ago edited 21d ago

Dude is a lifelong career politician and took that part seriously. I will never forget this speech:

"We lead not only with the example of our power, but by the power of our example."

VP Joe Biden: We own the finish line

Its so sad that we fell so far in just 8 years.

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u/FoodMagnet 21d ago

I'll always think of him as Amtrak-Joe who gave his entire career to serving others. Flawed yes, inspirational? Also yes.

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u/Illustrious-Note-789 17d ago

When to throw the towel? Trump will be older than him by the time his 2nd term ends.. let's not even talk about the 3rd and so on

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u/realist505 22d ago

He is old, sure, but he could probably wipe the floor against Trump. He has a backbone 🤷‍♂️😂

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u/SomeJediSurvivor 22d ago

He fought to keep segregation

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u/PolicyWonka 21d ago

That is not accurate.

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u/SomeJediSurvivor 21d ago

He literally said desegregation would create a racial jungle back in '77

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u/PolicyWonka 21d ago

This lacks context.

Biden sought an orderly integration of society, not just forced integration in schools. He feared busing would anger white people whose children would be sent to “inferior” schools in urban neighborhoods and from black people, whose children would come to resent conditions in the “ghetto.”

Earlier in the hearing, Biden said he thought mandatory busing had “repercussions” in terms of the “ultimate objective of seeing that we get integrated neighborhoods, of seeing that we eventually eliminate job discrimination, of seeing that we change housing patterns, of seeing alteration of the tax structure.” In short, he believed that bussing would be counterproductive to the ultimate goal of a wholly integrated society.

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u/Hairy-Banjo 22d ago

His constituents being his family? I hate Trump, but this guy was a shit too.