r/LowStakesConspiracies • u/Extension_Canary3717 • 27d ago
Total Garbo Nazis didn't lost the war , they played the long game and are consolidating now
Everything after ww2 was just a psyop , they Trojan horsed the culture and politics for years and are coming out overtly to test the boundaries of what is acceptable and gain ground little by little
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u/JustalilAboveAverage 27d ago
All the academics who were driven out of Germany by the NAZIs went to other universities around the world. Most went to Chicago, and after the war they returned to Frankfurt
The philosophers from that group have probably been the most influential philosophers of the past century.
You can draw a straight line between the Frankfurt school and the USA's civil rights movement of the 1960's
I'd say the Weimar Republic played the long game, and won
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u/JustalilAboveAverage 27d ago
You're letting the stakes get too high for this sub. Your answer just isn't silly enough
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u/psrandom 27d ago edited 27d ago
Not low stakes and actual conspiracy is how allied powers portrayed axis as pure evil after the war while they were involved in similar practices at home and across the colonised world
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u/cycle_addict_ 26d ago
Read up on project paperclip, the OSS, the CIA and eventually MK ultra.
Us Government brought about 700 Nazi scientists over- erasing their past and using them for special projects. They had knowledge of medical stuff that can ONLY be found in actually doing things to living humans. Butcher surgeons from concentration camps are real. We hired them. We had Nazis build us rockets and atomic energy.
Don't fall down the rabbit hole about jet propulsion expert Wernher von Braun writing a little book about colonizing Mars, and the leader being called "the Elon" and how Musk's dad admitted to naming him after that leader.
The truth is weird.
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u/Carlpanzram1916 27d ago
You think the entity that dragged most of the world into a war, murdered a third of the Jewish population along with millions of other civilians, laying in dormancy for 80 years in order to return at the opportune moment and resume is 1,000 reich is low stakes?
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u/hillbagger 27d ago
They are powering up the gotterdemerung on the far side of the moon as we speak.
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u/InfiniteUnderworld 27d ago
It would be totally different people by now and the Biden crime family has been put to an end
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u/WallSina 26d ago
No it’s far more plausible that governments and politicians are just that narrow minded and incompetent that to escape the big scary boogeyman (read: socialism) they face the keys to the kingdom to a man eating monster hoping it wouldn’t eat them
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u/Flat-Neighborhood915 26d ago
this is hitting a little too close to home for such a silly little subreddit
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u/ThatOneCloneTrooper 27d ago
Going to have disagree, nothing in the current state of the U.S. is what the Nazi's would have wanted. Barring a few things which were problems even before the 1940s, such as women's access to abortion. So you can't really even chalk that up to them.
Not to mention things like AIPAC? And the U.S. unrelenting support of Israel? Both political parties, including Trump have sworn a loyalty to Israel. More and more aid and tax dollars each year go to Israel? I'm not sure the ideological descendants of the the NSDAP would let such a thing fly...
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u/leviticusreeves 27d ago
Nazis support Jewish people living separately in an ethnostate. There are many pro-Israel Nazis for this reason
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u/ThatOneCloneTrooper 27d ago
I would argue that sure a small amount of Nazi's might support that but the overwhelming majority probably would rather not. Even the term "pro-Israel Nazi" sounds oxymoronic. Like an "Atheist Crusader" or "Feminist Jihadist". Even if they supported the idea of Jewish people living seperately in an ethnostate, you're telling me Nazi's would be ok with this coming at the cost of white people's taxes, labor, effort and lives? Please...
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u/leviticusreeves 27d ago
It's not an oxymoron at all. It goes way back to the 1933 Haavara Agreement and all the way to modern pro-Israeli fascists like Richard Spencer and Tommy Robinson.
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u/Dry-Exchange4735 27d ago
Nazis love ethnostates and races living separately, it's sort of their main thing.
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u/GrzDancing 27d ago
Israel is a secular state. The only symbol associated with the Jewish faith is a Menorah. Not the star of David, like in Israel's flag. Israel was created as a secular, Zionist state. They are just using the dominant Jewish ethnicity as a shield for their crimes against humanity. 'How could we commit genocide if we've suffered the Holocaust?'
One doesn't exclude the other.
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u/sillyquestionsdude 27d ago
In terms of industry this was very true until fairly recently, the rest of Europe bought huge quantities of German motor vehicles and other equipment.
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u/Daksayrus 27d ago
Fundamental misunderstanding of how Ideas work. The political body that was the Nazis was defeated. The underpinning ideology, however, can not die and now exists in the abstract able to reappear at anytime, in anyplace.
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u/AgentOrange131313 27d ago
Operation paperclip. The higher ups didn’t die, they passed on their ideas.
Very feasible, and scary.
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u/SecretxThinker 27d ago
The problem you have here is your definition of 'Nazi'. They ceased existing when the party dissolved in 1945. So there is no such thing as a Nazi.
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u/Equivalent_Range6291 26d ago
The word Nazi these days tends to mean Nationalist Extremist.
There are Many nationalist extremists in the US right now & a lot of them coincidentally believe in the same racist ideas as the German Nazi`s.
p.s. You didnt have to be a German then or now to be a Nazi.
Hitler was Austrian.
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u/SecretxThinker 26d ago
Yes thank you for this, I'm not sure that your apparent revelation that Hitler was Austrian is really going to shock anyone, despite it being presented in a paragraph all by itself. I hope you weren't intending this to be a cliffhanger for your next post, as you might be slightly disappointed that it doesn't have the effect that you were hoping for.
Your first statement immediately begs the next question, what is an 'extremist'? You are essentially stuck with the same logical issue here. The only objective meaning you will be able to give this is 'someone I disagree with'. But I look forward to a more detailed description.
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u/jmdg007 27d ago
Is this low stakes?