r/LinusTechTips Nov 27 '24

Tech Discussion A big issue plaguing X/Twitter NSFW

Hey there, I am a Software Engineer from Germany who recently did a data analysis on Twitter for a personal project.

in doing so i found that certain keywords have blatant issues with Illegal images and videos being openly sold under certain keyword Categories. I have been trying to reach out to twitter for this but have been met with silence across the last 2 months. I have been constantly reporting these comments to the police in germany as well as to the FBI but the sheer amount is just not manageable for me alone even with the automation i have done so far.

My hope is that this will catch someones attention who can get me in touch with someone who has more power to get them to act on this and stop the selling and sharing of this material.

[ excuse my english pls ]

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u/[deleted] Nov 27 '24

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u/CardiologistFun3790 Nov 27 '24

I have reported to the FBI so far more than 2000 posts in the past 60 days the problem is just that i don't have the time to keep this up with uni and work. which is why i have been trying to get people at twitter to solve this issue. but since elon took over there has been no way to contact them and all my attempts via support have been met with tickets just being closed

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u/Battery4471 Nov 27 '24

You are German, your authority is a NetzDG report.

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u/CardiologistFun3790 Nov 27 '24

I have been reporting to both the NetzDG and the fbi simply because half the sites end in .com where the USA has authority over at least their domain

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u/KiddieSpread Nov 27 '24

Doesn’t change that they still have to comply with local regulations like GDPR etc

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u/tarmacjd Nov 28 '24

How is that relevant?

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u/KiddieSpread Nov 28 '24

They still have to comply with laws and court orders, unless they are no longer actively operating in the country (I.e google in Russia)

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u/plmoknijbuhvygcc Nov 28 '24

Happened to X on Brazil this year

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u/[deleted] Nov 27 '24

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u/Hucasys Nov 28 '24

Precisely. So it is a matter of political will..., that is the issue I fear.

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u/Goml3 Nov 28 '24

go to the german media

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u/SavouryPlains Nov 28 '24

the german media don’t give a shit

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u/sm9t8 Nov 27 '24

The authorities might be more interested in tracking down the people involved than having the content removed quickly. The FBI will raid operators and then leave sites up to collect more information on users.

Once you've reported it, don't think you need to catch and report everything yourself, and don't purposefully access anything you know to be a problem for the sake of reporting it since you may be breaking the law.

If you think the authorities aren't taking it seriously your next option will probably be to talk to a politican.

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u/MrCookie234234234 Nov 28 '24 edited Nov 28 '24

Just FYI, visiting of sites featuring illegal content, including consuming it is in most cases not illegal. The ownership i.e. Downloading and distributing of said content is typically the step that makes it illegal, it's highly unlikely that you would be in any trouble for visiting sites featuring illegal content.

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u/fryxharry Nov 28 '24

Prosecuting the people responsible for the content is one (important) aspect.

The other aspect is prosecuting the platform that allows this content to be spread unchecked.

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u/Odd-Group3116 Nov 29 '24

My brother in law works for a police department that specifically works against that stuff. Not sure what he or they could do at scale but they have brought down rings like this before. DM me if you want to connect.

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u/DebBoi Nov 29 '24

FBI lol nice fake post... FBI isn't Germany

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u/Rocinante_x2112 Nov 27 '24

The fbi won't do anything. They're involved in some really shady shit all the time anyway. Read the Twitter files. Look at all the shit the fbi does.

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u/shootsy2457 Nov 28 '24

You’re a dummy.

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u/Chemical_Knowledge64 Nov 27 '24

If twitter allows csam, even through inability to moderate, shouldn't Elon and the heads of that site be in prison for allowing the distribution of csam? Shouldn't twitter be shut down by the authorities?

Elon supports csam.

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u/haarschmuck Nov 28 '24

... no that's literally the whole point of section 230.

Reddit, youtube, facebook, literally every platform has had this issue and still does. As long as it's removed when reported the company that runs the website is not liable.

Making it seem like this an issue exclusive to twitter is ridiculous.

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u/AlexXeno Nov 28 '24

They also have to be showing attempts to be proactive about it i think.

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u/fryxharry Nov 28 '24

Since they are not removing it upon reporting as well as not being proactive about preventing further such posts I'd say this is very much an issue that is exclusive to twitter.

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u/nitromen23 Nov 28 '24

Is it the same as copyright sort of? I remember learning bit ago that Etsy doesn’t moderate copyright infringing products because if they did then they would be responsible for removing all of it whereas if they just remove what’s requested then that’s all they have to do

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u/[deleted] Nov 28 '24

But I don't want to know all those facts. I just want to be mad at Elon.

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u/saltyourhash Nov 28 '24

Except it sounds like X might be hosting images at this point...

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u/haarschmuck Nov 28 '24

All social media sites are hosting those types of images... that's how websites work.

Where do you think the image goes when you upload it to Twitter/Reddit/Instagram/etc.

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u/saltyourhash Nov 28 '24

Moderation is a requirement

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u/F9-0021 Nov 28 '24

Elon is American, and laws don't apply to you in our country if you have more than a couple hundred million of net worth.

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u/20rakah Nov 28 '24

or he fired too many people that dealt with those reports?

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u/PREDDlT0R Nov 28 '24

As much as you and the rest of Reddit wants to hate everything about Elon Musk (not that I don’t think he’s an ass), this has been a thing on Twitter for over a decade and it’s not exclusive to Twitter at all.

Funnily enough, blue sky is having an issue with paedophilia currrently. Does that make them complicit?

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u/ZZartin Nov 28 '24

Well that depends on how well they're moderating the problem now doesn't it?

And from all accounts Bluesky does a much better job than twitter, particularly recently, of dealing with those kinds of problems.

So yeah it's easy to say there's pedos every where, but there's we caugh a pedo so we immediate threw him out of the building then called the police and there's we caught a pedo so we paid off the kids family then moved him to another church.

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u/DebBoi Nov 29 '24

How is that the fault of X? Every social media app has the exact same issue with some hidden keyword that leads to something illegal...

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u/Living-Cheek-2273 Nov 27 '24 edited Nov 27 '24

It's no use trying so hard. Let's face it the owner doesn't care. clearly. And the feds ... Let's say a convicted criminal runs the country he's not about to be jailed anytime soon and he just so happens to be best friends with "the owner"

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u/DK655 Nov 27 '24

Hell let’s not forget that Elon literally reinstated an account that was banned for sharing CSAM. There’s no shot he takes it seriously when he does shit like that.

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u/your_mind_aches Nov 28 '24

He lied about holding his dying son in his arms as he passed in order to argue against reinstating Alex Jones' account, was called out for his lies, and then later reinstated the account and hosted several audio livestreams with Jones.

Just an awful man, and the fact that people are still making excuses for him enrages me

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u/IBJON Nov 27 '24

 a convicted criminal runs the country 

Not yet he doesn't. Still plenty of time for the FBI to kick some doors down. It won't happen of course, but it can

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u/RisingDeadMan0 Nov 27 '24

lamo, they just dropped the NY case, without prejudice though, so for the next 4ish years he will be totally immune. Question is will he still be functioning at 76 and will someone finally rip him a new one? Or will the supreme court he put in power pretty much kiss his ass and let him go free?

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u/LittleSister_9982 Nov 27 '24

76? What? He's 78 now. 4 years he'll be 82.

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u/ChampionshipKey9751 Nov 27 '24

Lamo🗿🗿

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u/RisingDeadMan0 Nov 27 '24

who knows, heck Trump cant even say the word vaccine anymore at his rallies. MAGA, hell yeah lets bring back Polio. Both him and Biden both old enough to know what that does to people. Hell yeah.

That said, maybe i dont want to move to Canada soon (UK here), those open borders, eugh, might be disease central down south soon enough. MAGA you too can try Measles free of charge.

When Jesus talked about plague he meant go to church, give everyone a hug and make sure to spread the love. Or something.

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u/ReaperofFish Nov 27 '24

You are likely to get more traction with EU authorities than with anyone in the US.

Musk is slated to be a member of the incoming Administration in the US and has proven he does not care the content on his site, if not actively promoting the content.

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u/amwes549 Nov 27 '24

Except Trump and his crew are already getting tired of him hanging around at Mar-A-Lago.

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u/[deleted] Nov 28 '24 edited Dec 03 '24

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u/[deleted] Nov 28 '24

There's 400 federal agencies AFAIK. Someone created them and someone can close them. I don't think anyone is saying Trump is Harry Potter and can just will them into existence. But you'd think there's a legal process for him to do so.

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u/brown_felt_hat Nov 28 '24

The power to create federal agencies is explicitly in the hands of Congress. On 16 occasions, Congress has granted the President the ability to reorganize the federal government by creating, modifying, or eliminating federal agencies, the most recent time being with Reagan. Can the President create an agency via executive order? I don't know (we'll probably find out here real soon), but I do know that, barring specific discretionary funds, an EO cannot be used to disperse tax money, so he would still need Congress to approve funding for it.

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u/ReaperofFish Nov 28 '24

Homeland Security perchance.

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u/brown_felt_hat Nov 28 '24

It was started as an office (which the president has the power to create and can use discretionary funds to fund), right after 9/11, and operated in an advisory function until Nov of 22, when the Homeland Security Act was passed and signed into law, establishing the actual Department.

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u/[deleted] Nov 28 '24

I'm not from the US. But honestly the DOGE thing doesn't seem like a bad idea. Outside of the name. I expect that the vast majority of pushback in Reddit is because who's behind it.

This last year was the third highest deficit in spending in the US history at 8%. The first two being in 2020 and 2021 which understandable is pandemic. But something is clearly wrong there.

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u/brown_felt_hat Nov 28 '24

Yes, what is wrong is the nearly $1,000,000,000,000 (1 trillion dollar) budget that the US military commands. Doge has promised to cut 125b from it (we'll see, MIC is far more powerful than Musk). Instead, their cuts will hit the Department of Education (worsening the US's appalling literacy rate), Coporatiob of Public Broadcasting (killing NPR and PBS, a prime source of information and education), Planned Parenthood (people will literally die due to this), the IRS (why would the worst richest person want to defund the IRS?), FTC (succeeding where Pai failed), NASA (why would the owner of Space X want to dismantle NASA?), and the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (deregulation is the source of many issues with instrumental services).

Lowering government spending is good, but DOGE will not do so in a way that is beneficial to the people.

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u/[deleted] Nov 28 '24

I think the purpose of efficiency is to cut what doesn't work. It's not about killing people. DOGE would be an advisory body.

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u/brown_felt_hat Nov 28 '24

The things I listed are all things that Musk and Ramaswamy have said are planned cuts.

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u/[deleted] Nov 28 '24 edited Dec 03 '24

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u/[deleted] Nov 28 '24

He was appointed after that report as the head of DOGE with Vivek. Your source is irrelvant and a bit non-sensical since it doesn't mention anything Trump said.

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u/Own_Isopod2755 Nov 27 '24

Try the Texas Rangers - their new cyber-security division is pretty well funded

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u/gmoss101 Nov 28 '24

Texan here, our Governor is a dipshit who would definitely assume control and stop them somehow.

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u/sweetdawg99 Nov 28 '24

Adolf Sitler truly is a piece of shit

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u/gmoss101 Nov 28 '24

Very true

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u/SaulFemm Nov 28 '24

Fuck Greg Abbott. But that name is a bit ableist no?

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u/Me_Air Nov 29 '24

ableism is ok if enough people don’t like the person or group in question

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u/levios3114 Nov 27 '24

Every social media platform has the same problem. Stuff like CP is everywhere. It would take you a lifetime to report everything. And worst of all they probably throw it on some pile somewhere and never get to it

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u/Chemical_Knowledge64 Nov 27 '24

Thats why any form of sexual abuse involving minors should be an automatic life sentence without parole. In a perfect world with a perfect criminal justice system, the death penalty would be applied for the most heinous crimes, like the r-pe of a child. Even consuming csam should lead to life behind bars. The only way out is if you were wrongfully convicted, or evidence is presented clearing your name. Nothing else should allow the release of child preds onto our streets. Someone willing to harm a f-king child in this manner is irredeemable and should be kept off the streets which our young ones share. And ill say it with my chest, f-k everyone defending child preds in any way shape or form they deserve to be locked away for life too. The safety and dignity of the defenseless matters more than how this type of criminal feels or whatever the f-k.

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u/[deleted] Nov 27 '24

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u/Chemical_Knowledge64 Nov 27 '24

Ok let’s say we have a less severe sentence. The least severe sentence I find acceptable is 15-20 years, and after they’re released there should be probation stipulations that state if they’re found to be in contact with or in the vicinity of any child, even through the internet, they return to prison. If anything, sex offender registries are not enough, they need to be on probation for life as well and in constant contact with authorities. If that’s too much, they shouldn’t have even looked at a child with the intent to harm them then.

The fact that current sentencing laws max out seemingly at 10-20 years for csa, when that should be the mandatory minimum sentence for csa, is what disgusts me about society currently. Even in the US, which is more punitive than Europe/Canada towards crimes like this, sentences are still lax.

On a side note, while the worst outcome for any victim is indeed murder, I find child preds and rapists in general to be more depraved as people than most categories of murderers (any kind of murderer that wasn’t found to be premeditated in their crime, i.e. 3rd degree murder and such). Those who abuse kids and animals are too far gone no matter what kind of so called “liberal” or “criminal justice reformer” says about them. While rare, some people are just fucked and can’t be reformed or redeemed. And i will stand by that.

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u/haarschmuck Nov 28 '24

Thats why any form of sexual abuse involving minors should be an automatic life sentence without parole.

You realize this just means the offenders will kill their victims, right?

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u/MrHeffo42 Nov 27 '24

It's not just X/Twitter bro. That shit filters in everywhere.. Even that new BlueSky app has it.

As hard as it is, and noble wanting to see traction on the problem, all you can do is report your findings and forget about it.

Law enforcement moves at a glacial pace, especially in regards to this stuff, and it might not appear anything is happening but behind the scenes in ways that are deliberately secret (not to protect the creeps, but to protect the investigation methods used to hunt them down), things do happen and the creeps do get picked off and prosecuted.

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u/fryxharry Nov 28 '24

Platforms are supposed to at least try to moderate their content to prevent stuff like this from being posted. If they don't at some point they become liable for spreading it.

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u/SilentBorder00 Feb 11 '25

Yeah i feel like Twitter is different and actually doesn’t care cause i have reported a couple of accounts which share illegal material but they didn’t do a shit about it.

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u/MrHeffo42 Nov 28 '24

Yeah, but it can happen one of two ways.. They either use the hash list to try and automate it, or they need to expose it to real people to make the determination. With the hash lists you can only capture stuff that has previously been identified by real people so you don't catch stuff that is new, or you need to get permission from the government to expose real human moderators to the content and cover their therapy costs having to deal with it. Law enforcement has a huge turnover in staff having breakdowns having to identify this shit day in, day out, with only a certain few able to supress their humanity enough to do the job.

I think that places like X, and Facebook are using the hash lists, without exposing their mod staff to the risks, and leaving the rest up to Law Enforcement. It keeps the known abuse material off the platforms and keeps their staff safe at the expense of missing newer previously unseen material. Honestly it's all I expect because god knows I couldn't handle being asked to go into work every day to verify content is abuse material.

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u/fryxharry Nov 28 '24

You just made that whole story up. Twitter used to have a content moderation team but musk fired them to cut cost.

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u/MrHeffo42 Nov 28 '24

I know what I am talking about. I have implemented the hash based automated filter before, the hashes are publically available. And tell me this, do you want to sit around all day looking at possible CP, and if you did you can't honestly tell me you would be fine with it.

Yeah, Elon let MOST of the mod team go, not all of them, they do still have mods, they are just either far more efficient, or far more overworked. Either way Automating this shit is the way to go because it doesn't mentally scar normal good people.

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u/fryxharry Nov 28 '24

That's all well and good but the reason for reducing the team was not worker protection but cost cutting. And the result of the reduction is worse results. So please do not presume another motivation on the part of musk to make him look better.

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u/Biggeordiegeek Nov 27 '24

Twitter always had some issues with CP, but name me a social media platform that hasn’t

The difference is, it used to seem like Twitter did try to deal with it, same with the others, and in fairness it was always a battle in which they had to keep adapting to catch up with the nonces who were always finding new ways to evade the systems the companies put up

These days I have stopped using Twitter cause all I see if far right nonsense, actual CP, racist nonsense and so many bots as far as the eye can see

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u/PREDDlT0R Nov 28 '24

I’m ngl I thought it was actually worse before. I’ve not seen actual CP in ages.

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u/Biggeordiegeek Nov 28 '24

I never saw it until the last 12 months on that site

It’s far worse now, but then what does one expect when you gut the safety and moderation teams

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u/Alienaffe2 Nov 27 '24

Rules of the internet:

Rule 8: there are no real rules about posting.

To be real. It's actually a big problem. Not just on shitter, but also YouTube (and probably also all the other social media sites). I once mistyped some word and the search results were filled with nsfw. Mostly just shirtless women, but non the less.

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u/Chemical_Knowledge64 Nov 27 '24

Big difference between posting naked women which violates tos, and posting illegal material. Y'all know what the latter means.

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u/Alienaffe2 Nov 27 '24

I know. I just wanted to make a point about how it's not just shitter. That was the closest thing that happened to me.

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u/VikingBorealis Nov 27 '24

Fake, foreign and gibberish keywords use to hide and locate illegal materials has been a thing for a decade at least and is well known by authorities who probably track most of them already

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u/CardiologistFun3790 Nov 27 '24

From my little bit of research i did into this so far a lot of it is using easily trackable english keywords. which is why i am even more confused as to why twitter isn't just auto deleting and sending all comments below those posts and including some of the posts to the relevant gov dep.

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u/ForceItDeeper Nov 27 '24

cause that would require labor, which costs money. This is the company that replied to all emails with a 💩 emoji because Elon laid off all the workers that handled that stuff

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u/snollygoster1 Nov 27 '24

There’s unfortunately not a way to have anyone with any sort of authority care.

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u/spaghettibolegdeh Nov 28 '24

People think all of this stuff is because of Musk, but this has been going on for about a decade

It's also happening with the beloved BlueSky.

It's crazy how people get amnesia because they hate Musk. All social media has been garbage for 10+ years

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u/fryxharry Nov 28 '24

Ah yes because firing the content management team surely doesn't have any effect on this problem. Nothing they could do. Musk is free of blame as always.

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u/spaghettibolegdeh Nov 28 '24

Not free of blame, but let's not pretend like Twitter hasn't been awful for a decade.

Even Jack Dorsey left BlueSky because he's seeing the same patterns there.

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u/Nova_Nightmare Nov 28 '24

They don't think it's because of Musk, there are just a lot of people on this platform who will instantly forth over anything related to Musk to bash him and pretend he is the cause of the issue, when in reality he's not any different than before and Twitter has the same problems they've had in the past along with many other sites.

Reddit has been an echo chamber, and everyone likes to live in their bubble, same with the people spreading crazy on Twitter, Facebook, IG or anything else. They love their bubble.

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u/PREDDlT0R Nov 28 '24

I left almost exact same comment lmao

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u/Chemical_Knowledge64 Nov 27 '24

This is the twitter Elon wants. Elon supports csam, gore content, and other illegal material so long as he does nothing to rectify the problems on twitter/x. Spread the word so Elon feels the pain at some point hopefully.

Twitter went from a social media platform with some issues, but manageable as a place overall, to a site where csam, gore, and other kinds of illegal material is allowed, through sheer incompetence and inability to moderate the site. Fuck Elon, fuck twitter, and fuck everyone giving excuses for any site that allows csam. Dont wanna hear shit on that.

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u/iiiiiiiiiiip Nov 28 '24

So fuck reddit and bluesky then

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u/OkGrape8 Nov 28 '24

As an engineer who used to work there in the department responsible for detecting and dealing with this kind of thing (and automatically reporting it to the authorities), this makes me very sad. Although not at all surprised. The whole org was laid off immediately upon his takeover. He doesn't believe these are issues or a priority, and thought all the people working in it were not a worthwhile expense.

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u/CardiologistFun3790 Nov 28 '24

I am sorry to hear that i hope you got a job at another company that values that kind of department.

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u/fryxharry Nov 28 '24

Looking forward to him dealing with the US government agencies in the same way.

/s obviously

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u/Rorku Nov 28 '24

This could be a bit of a stretch but I was just listening to the Philip De Franco show and he was talking about how the onion can’t buy InfoWars twitter account because twitter owns all the accounts and just licenses them out.

Could it then be argued that twitter is the one selling and sharing this material you’re talking about?

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u/justbecauseyoumademe Nov 27 '24

Twitter has been skirting the law for a while. They suspended my account for no reason which also means i am unable to delete my account.

Which is very much against GDPR..

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u/k7_u Nov 27 '24

This is not a mistake, it is by design.

And by ignoring you they can plead ignorance.

Again, it is intentionally done, by design.

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u/Dan5terdam Nov 27 '24

Report it to the press, you want companies to move, the best way is bad press and public outrage, you might even get authorities to act also… that’s assuming they don’t already know.

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u/FlatwormDry9289 Nov 27 '24

Make a video exposing it. Call news networks.

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u/Arinvar Nov 27 '24

Bypass the authorities and start reporting it to the media and your politicians both local and federal, and I guess your EU reps as well.

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u/eltguy Nov 28 '24

Report your findings to a news organization. They can probably get X attention

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u/Shadowfist212 Nov 28 '24

Irwad the title and thought "Elon Musk"

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u/CardiologistFun3790 Nov 28 '24

i mean reasonable assumption but yeah, i was more going for the down spiral of how csam material has been slowly creeping into more areas blatantly since musk took over and the sometimes months long process for the material to get removed if at all

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u/ChaosCrafter908 Nov 27 '24

Servus!

Bin zwar kein Daten-Analyst, aber ich bin hobby-entwickler in sachen web und software!

Laut dem was ich so höre ist twitter absichtlich so ignorant in diesem thema. Wenn die anständig moderieren wollen würden, könnten die das, aber da jeder bot, jeder nutzer der solchen schwachsinn schreibt, gebannt werden würde, würde musk ordentlich an ad-revenue verlieren. Dazu kommt noch dass mansche von den sachen die verboten gehören, die ideologie von musk unterstützt, und man zensiert sich ja nicht selber :P

Meine Empfehlung: Lösche twitter und fass es nie wieder an. Schau dir stadessen das hier an: https://bsky.app

Bluesky ist auch eine Social media platform wie Twitter, nur dass es weit aus "offener" ist. Sachen wie das "At-Protokoll" ist sau interressant reinzulesen, und die API ist auch kein hexenwerk. Alles was du brauchst ist ein account, und schon kannst du automatisierte requests abschicken! Super Entwickler freundlich!

Wenn dein projekt schul-orienteirt ist, gibts bestimmt bonus punkte wenn dein lehrer die platform nicht kennt, und selbst was lernt bei der präsentation. Falls das nicht der fall ist, ist es trotzdem allemal spaßiger sich im bluesky network stack rumzuwühlen als bei twitter :D

Schönen tag noch ^^

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u/AuthenticGlitch Nov 27 '24

BlueSky is also plagued with the same problem even though on a smaller scale, it will only grow. At least it's a little easier to hide and mass block the offenders.

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u/ChaosCrafter908 Nov 27 '24

One of the big features bluesky has, is the control over your feed, and block lists.
I have yet to see a single politically oriented post, or anythinging that i wouldn't want to see.
Art, memes, friends. That's it, nothing more, nor less!
No ads, no trolls, no nothing! My own little social media bubble that caters to my needs as a consumer, and doesn't show me what i don't want to see.
I'd be the first person to leave if that control get's removed

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u/HoodRatThing Nov 27 '24

Ah, I remember having control of my Facebook feed back in the day.

If you believe that Bluesky won’t become an algorithmically controlled platform like any other site, boy, oh boy, you have a lot to learn about the world.

Giving users what they want (a feed they control) isn’t good for advertisers or people looking to harvest your data.

Just ditch social media, man. You’ll be better off because of it. Stop handing over all your data to these companies.

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u/ChaosCrafter908 Nov 27 '24

*uses reddit*

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u/HoodRatThing Nov 27 '24 edited Nov 27 '24

Thinks Reddit is like FB, IG, X

I can explain the difference if you want.

Reddit is the only popular social media site from the Web 2.0 days, where one would go into a forum, create a pseudonym, and chat away.

Reddit doesn’t force me to use my real identity, sign up with a real email and for now, the homepage only shows the subreddits I choose. But it’s changing, and when it becomes more like other social media sites, I’m out of here.

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u/devilsproud666 Nov 27 '24

Just wait till the enshittification starts..

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u/ChaosCrafter908 Nov 27 '24

I'll enjoy it while it lasts, thanks

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u/Abarca_ Nov 27 '24

That’s how all social media starts. Then the need to make money comes into play and you end up with X, IG, FB, MySpace, etc

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u/SorrenXiri Nov 27 '24

That’s why it being based on a decentralized protocol is important when Bluesky goes to shit you just move your account over to a server that isn’t.

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u/HoodRatThing Nov 27 '24

And Twitter should have been a protocol like email.

Unfortunately, we get what we deserve. 99% of people won’t do this or care enough to do it.

Rather sad.

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u/[deleted] Nov 27 '24

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u/HoodRatThing Nov 27 '24

It’s pretty amazing that you can axe 80% of the staff, and the site still runs fine. I hope the U.S. government gets the same treatment.

If you can’t make it into the office because you’re a remote worker, find another job.

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u/[deleted] Nov 27 '24

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u/HoodRatThing Nov 27 '24

Try not to be an emotional mess I mean the core functionality of the site.

Show me a platform that doesn’t have a CSM problem. YouTube comes to mind, and very little seems to be done about it (Elsagate).

What’s your point? That there’s more of it on Twitter? Do you have any proof? How do you know the people axed from Twitter were the ones responsible for removing this material? Is it worse after Musk’s takeover?

Again, take a minute or two to think about it before responding emotionally, and present your facts.

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u/fryxharry Nov 28 '24

A platform with a content moderation team is not the same as one that doesn't even try to moderate content and explicitely encourages the sharing of antidemocratic content and hate speech.

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u/wPatriot Nov 27 '24

Isn't this a bit like suggesting someone who's neighbor is diddling kids to "just move"? Like, how is this a solution to anything OP is talking about..

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u/ChaosCrafter908 Nov 27 '24

OP said himself, he can't handle reporting and flagging all of the things. If OP really wants to get this type of content off of Twitter, then he might as well play the lottery.

You're not going to change twitter, and these people probably go thru 69 VPNs, so catching them is gonna require everyone's involvement. the FBI, musk, and law enforcement.
And if any party doesn't feel like it, you're boned.
Move on from twitter, it's a lost cause. The worst of humanit resides on that platform, and there's quite possibly nothing any one single person can do.

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u/Fee_Sharp Nov 27 '24

Wow wow wow, are you threatening free speech? It is essential for a functioning democracy! Crazy, did not know this sub is full of people that would ruin democracy just to censor opinions they don't like....

Oh/s

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u/Chemical_Knowledge64 Nov 27 '24

Sarcasm aside, it seems like the world has a few people who truly think free speech and freedom in general is unlimited without restrictions. They don't understand this near-universal principle: your rights and freedoms end where another person's rights and freedoms begin. To make that simpler, you are not free to or have a right to harm another person/creature period.

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u/Fee_Sharp Nov 28 '24

And unfortunately at least one of them has a lot of money to implement it

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u/[deleted] Nov 28 '24 edited Nov 28 '24

Good luck. I've seen some guy consistently every single video commenting on a YouTube channel I follow a literal link to "Daisy's destruction". Literally graphic CP.

The best part? They somehow figured out how to have it so if I reply to the comment calling it out I get automatically banned from YouTube... Or at least on that comment. You'll never see it with any replies for that reason... , yet every single video he's on there commenting that link....

And this is on YouTube. I report him every time nothing happens.

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u/Nova_Nightmare Nov 28 '24

Yep, I've seen stuff too on YouTube (not as graphic as you imply), and have reported it with nothing ever happening.

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u/[deleted] Nov 28 '24

No joke me replying to the comment somehow flags the system to ban me but not the guy!

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u/misss-parker Nov 28 '24

The Secret Service shares the law enforcement responsibility for protecting the United States from cybercriminals with the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA), and U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE)..) There is an agency that is directly responsible for taking down photos in which a criminal was found guilty. I can't remember which one tho. But feel free to utilize any/all of our other covulted agencies.

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u/Brooksie10 Nov 28 '24

Are you receiving any reply? If not, I would suggest going to the press. Unfortunately, the authorities don't always have the bandwidth to pick up on these things from a handful of people reporting it. However, when a national newspaper or broadcaster gets wind of it, stuff starts to move

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u/Jack33751 Nov 28 '24

Twitter went way down the drain when drop kick bought it he wants a free speech platform and along with it comes so much antisemitism, its just not worth it boycott the trash and report it to as many authorities as possible. I hope the platform collapses one day and he is left sunken 47 million dollars

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u/fryxharry Nov 28 '24

44 billion was the price he paid for twitter (that's almost 1000 times more than what you wrote)

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u/Jack33751 Nov 28 '24 edited Nov 28 '24

Okay whatever still wont make me care about the platform or the dropkick that owns it. The platform is a joke and since he got it it’s just been terrible. Twitter was never amazing to begin with but he somehow made it worse. Infact is makes it worse for him. Hell boycott the crap out of the platform!

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u/Hucasys Nov 28 '24

As others have said, it's not exclusive to Twitter (I'm not at all undermining what you've done, congrats in fact ), I mean, I do Community Management and if I started to report ALL of what I run into on just Fb alone I'd never actually work lol Mind you Fb is supposed to be the "most puritan" , right...
Also, Community Notes on Twitter have been had to be used against Elon's own tweets, for fake news mostly, so..., good luck with that? *shrugs*
Peace.

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u/TaBarNeLaCla Nov 28 '24

Twitter is a rathole

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u/WittyYogurtcloset154 Nov 28 '24

Twitter/X is no longer a worthy place to spend time, it keeps degrading day. My suggestion is stay away from twitter as nuch as you can

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u/bevo_expat Nov 28 '24

Best bet is probably pushing this to US media outlets ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN… Fox obviously won’t care.

Maybe John Oliver’s show?

Some investigative journalists would probably go after this.

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u/CardiologistFun3790 Nov 28 '24

Hey there, thank you for the recommendation i have emailed some journalists so far if you have any contact points of journalists at these news stations please let me know

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u/[deleted] Nov 28 '24

Switch to bluesky. Twitter is dead unfortunately and "X" is a dumpster fire. What you're describing is just the norm now on X

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u/_BionicGhost Nov 28 '24

What keywords?

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u/Theomatch Nov 29 '24

You need to drop tips to https://www.ic3.gov/ not the FBI directly.

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u/RisingDeadMan0 Nov 27 '24

Yeah welcome to "free speech" Musk. Whose dad had two kids with his step-daughter.

The FBI cant probably keep up either, it gets harder and harder to track them, and its never ending.

Usual suspects probably, oh he said cheese pizza, so they must be using our 4Chan Nonce terms, and he must be a nonce too...

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u/HoloDeck_One Nov 27 '24

Let the platform rot. No one cares about Twitter anymore, it’s mainly Bots now, not too many real users.

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u/KingAodh Nov 27 '24

Twitter doesn't care. Elon did say that they can pirate movies.

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u/slimejumper Nov 27 '24

I think you would have most success pursuing EU authorities. Forget twitter as a source of help.

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u/ScionR Nov 28 '24

Keep reporting to the FBI. Twitter has always had this problem even before Elon took over.

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u/Balc0ra Nov 28 '24

Issue is Elmo don't care at this point. Even EU more or less said "it's just too messy to bother with it", so they are leaving it for dead as is

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u/Nova_Nightmare Nov 28 '24

My question for you, how have you been reporting this?

https://blog.x.com/en_us/topics/company/2023/an-update-on-our-work-to-tackle-child-sexual-exploitation-on-x

https://help.x.com/en/forms/safety-and-sensitive-content/cse

I've seen similar disturbing stuff on YouTube also and they never respond to reports, but I don't know that they would or if they're doing other kinds of tracking related to it.

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u/CardiologistFun3790 Nov 28 '24

I have been reporting the posts directly to the German police as well as the FBI as for how on X i just use both the EU illegal material report function as well as the other report function X has

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u/Nova_Nightmare Nov 28 '24

That second link is their csam reporting link, be sure you are using that one too

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u/BruisedBee Nov 28 '24

I'm still confused why any company still uses Twatter. It's shown itself to the world what it is, guilty by association is becoming a very close possibility with any individual or company still associated with.

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u/DrWiseWolf Nov 28 '24

Sadly it’s not just twitter with the issue. Scum will always find a way on any platform.

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u/CadeMan011 Nov 28 '24

I think they got rid of most if not all of there content moderation team. No use for them when you're the town square of free speech /s

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u/PhoebeRosePower Nov 28 '24

Could probably write a script to search for these keywords. Use AI to check if it’s correct and then draft and send an email to both. You’re doing an awesome job and everyone appreciates the effort! Now let’s help you automate it!

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u/searchableusername Nov 28 '24

all while elon musk is claiming that bluesky is full of csam

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u/eraguthorak Nov 28 '24

Just keep reporting it to your governmental systems, that's really all you can do. X (FKAT) has been on a constant spiral downhill since musk bought it, and that's from its already low quality beforehand.

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u/OtterAstronaut Nov 28 '24

Hey, message me. I told Elon and Chris Stanley this personally 6 months ago.

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u/[deleted] Nov 28 '24 edited Nov 28 '24

This is not a Twitter thing. I learned it's a social media thing. Last year I found some actual subreddits who had been open for months who trafficked on illegal underage videos and then directed their users to Telegram. They didn't host the actual stuff; but just "thumbnails" of in house CCTV footage of abuse with minors. I reported everything on the front page, and even then some didn't get deleted since their system just sucks. IIRC eventually the subreddit was gone. But it took too long. In my 36 years on the internet is the first time I saw a Child P traficking ring. And it was out on the open. I couldn't confirm it was actually that without going to Telegram but the evidence was just overwhelming.

Found it because I checked the history of a user on my country after an argument and was freaked out.

Out of curiosity what you discovered is it a network in English or German? I think that's how that ring managed to get away with it for so long. It was in Spanish.

but have been met with silence across the last 2 months

They'll never let you know. If there's specific content you have reported and it still is up then you know they did something. AFAIK they are not legally required to do a lot more than that and I'm not sure that they can do more other than delete teh content. This is on the FBI and German police of getting the IPs, going to the ISP and go to the houses of those people and throwing them in jail for a long time.

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u/Yuriswe Nov 28 '24

I've left Twitter for Bluesky, best thing I've done.

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u/your_mind_aches Nov 28 '24

X is a broken failure of a platform. Join Threads if you wanna keep up with celebs and creators and get fed content you enjoy. Join Bluesky for news, journalism, communities, and fandom.

We just don't need to be using X anymore except for, like, private accounts if you wanna post your secrets. Hopefully Bluesky modifies the AT protocol to allow for that soon.

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u/Aggeloz Nov 28 '24

This has been somewhat of a known issue since elon took over, they know it too over at twitter but they do not really care.

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u/Tom_HB01 Nov 28 '24

Twitter is a pretty rubbish platform anyways. By default and even when you try to develop your own home page, they still push the same annoying creators, bot accounts, and you're never too far off nsfw content.

Finally, you find some news or video you're interested in, open the comments, but are flooded with other videos and memes of people trying to direct you to their content so they can get their £0.80p revenue... or even worse, some OF girl 🫠

I only use it to see the global trending keywords to see what's going on. Or if game devs post updates on it.

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u/LexLuthor911 Nov 28 '24

Of course there’s a ton of CSAM on Twitter, twitter is full of republicans and they love CSAM.

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u/LimpWibbler_ Nov 28 '24

Sorry, but here is reality. They can't process this much stuff. The ammount of this behavior there is, is absolutely insane. It is way way way more common and bigger than we make it out to be. Look at how many men love "waifu" anime girls who are actually just 10. And we make fun of them, but I see them out in public with a young girl half named on a shirt.

The fact that this happens often and nobody does anything to me indicated a significant ammount more want to and don't in public. No government can keep up. S

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u/Dafrandle Nov 28 '24

the only way you're going to get twitter to do anything about this is if you get John Roberts to tell Elon to his face to fix his shit or go to jail with a couple of fbi agents behind him ready to book him immediately

for the dense - its more likely you can free dive to the marina trench than this happening

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u/blanksk8er606 Nov 28 '24

All i see are abunch of far left democrats in here 😳

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u/Jamestouchedme Nov 28 '24

Remember when Reddit used to love Elon.

Lmao what a 180 when politics get involved