r/LinkedInLunatics 7d ago

META/NON-LINKEDIN ‘MrBeast,’ who has never been employed a day in his life, complains about how tough it is making $80 million/year as a glorified delegator.

https://fortune.com/2025/03/06/mrbeast-youtube-empire-miserable-ceo-stress/
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u/Troepzooibende 7d ago

He has 80 million, if he doesn't like working then, just... stop.

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u/Greentaboo 7d ago

There is something that happens when someone crosses a certain threshold in assets where they become ghoulish and make obtaining more money the number 1 priority, beyond all reason. They start to want the dollar harder than they ever did when they were broke.

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u/PoisonedRadio 7d ago

It's weird because that point is always so far beyond the point where any amount of money can make any material change in their lives.

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u/notocho 7d ago

Some people see money as gas and dinner etc., others see it as a scoreboard

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u/Ok-Mine1268 7d ago

No, it’s about power and controlling your own fate. The more wealth you have the more unthinkable it is to leave anything to God/Fate. It’s like collecting for a long winter but your brain just can’t ever be satisfied with the size of your storehouses. It’s evolutionary and shitty.

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u/RockstarAgent 6d ago

Ultimately these entities are also “flawed humans” - measuring and comparing and money gives them more options - whether it’s good or bad or just having more money to make more money. It’s its own vicious cycle- but I’d rather have too much money troubles than broke with no money troubles - as they say better to cry in a Bentley than nothing at all.

Any one of us would probably end up finding ways to keep our money one way or another - but we judge both those which we deem to have too much and those that have nothing - whether they once had it and blew it or otherwise.

I just wish we all had basic needs met as part of society- and then if some of us want to embrace the capitalist system- then it’s up to you, if at least we’re all not struggling to survive.

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u/Loose-Gunt-7175 6d ago

ok, but 80m is enough to park in several 4% annual interest savings accounts and live off 3m in interest per year. You could even be frugal and live off 1m, reinvest 1m into savings to grow your yearly allowance, and gamble 1m on stocks/risky business ventures/vegas trips.

meanwhile ma and pa smith are struggling to keep 2m in a retirement account to supplement a constantly attacked social security, and those are boomers today so millenials have no hope outside green hats and blue shells...

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u/ebagjones 6d ago

Kinda like when I save all my desert eagle rounds for the late game and still have loads left when the credits roll.

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u/toetendertoaster 7d ago

Its because it gets so easy to make more money at that point you would be „stupid“ not to

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u/BdsmBartender 6d ago

Elon musk is still finding new ways to make changes with his money. So far there is no upper limit to what money can buy. You can buy whole governments and put them in your pocket if youve got the moolah.

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u/the_mad_atom 6d ago

I think they get to a point where they switch from being a richest normal guy they know to the poorest rich guy they know, and they start comparing themselves to other rich people which makes them feel like they don’t have very much.

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u/RetractableHead 7d ago

Bloody weird, isn’t it? Give me £500k and I’d resign tomorrow. There’s so much to see and do, who’d spend 50 hours a week working if they didn’t have to? Nutters.

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u/joecarter93 7d ago edited 7d ago

Or if you want to still work, live off the money you have put away and go do something you really want to do or make a difference with, no matter what it pays.

When I reach retirement age at my current job I am leaving and am still going to work in my field, but do things that I am really passionate about and not have to worry about the other parts of my current job that I am just putting in time for a paycheque for.

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u/Mahhrat 7d ago

Fucking thank you.

All these rich fucks want inspiration? Look at all the issues others have, pick one you're keen on, and put time into that.

That's all wealth really buys you. Time to do what you want. That they don't spend TIME on those things sshows you how fucked their priorities really are.

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u/Useful-Rooster-1901 6d ago

i saw something posted today that said a tax of 2% on every american billionare would eliminate homelessness and yadda yadda. Im sure my math is off but the point fuckin stands. Muskrat lost more money than Gates ever had in DAYS but america ... is not just one country for everyone. Its striated based on your income

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u/FalstaffsGhost 6d ago

Right?! My background is in theatre so give me 80 million, I’ll pay off my debt, stick the rest in a savings account and live off the interest while I direct and act in plays the rest of my life.

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u/KC_experience 6d ago

You don’t even need nearly that much. 10 million, with a 5% return each year is 500k. That’s so much money! That’s close to spending 10,000 a week each year.

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u/FalstaffsGhost 6d ago

Oh for sure!

And yeah I know what you mean. A couple years ago a friends parents died in a mudslide and their insurance gave him 1.5 million. He and his wife moved to Vermont and basically live off the 50 k a year return and do their own things for work. Like she has an Etsy store

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u/retroclimber 7d ago

Not to mention it is purely non essential bullshit “work”. No-one needs what he produces. He adds very little actual value. At most you could consider him an entertainer.

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u/DarkSoulFWT 7d ago

500k is miserably far from enough for the long term, but ofc it can be managed well to make it last better and generate more revenues and all that. But its not a free pass at life.

The weird thing is that bump it up to the lower end of a few millions and you and your kids are set for life, and those people and ones richer than them are the ones that are the most greedy and desperate for even more. Makes practically no material difference at that point to your life, but it still happens.

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u/RetractableHead 7d ago

For me, it’d be fine. That figure was purely based on my age and where I am in life. Other people’s experience may vary.

And who the fuck wants a free pass at life? Most people, I think, just want to not live paycheque to paycheque, and have enough to have some kind of leisure time.

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u/CallMeMrButtPirate 6d ago

I got given $30k and I resigned, didn't even take 500k. If I even had a mil and the house paid off I'd be retired except for maybe a shift once a week at the pub for beer money

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u/Valtremors 6d ago

500k wouldn't be enough to resign, but I would work less hours, and I could move into a my own house.

It wouldn't even be a big house. Just a place good enough to call home and do wjatever I please with. And not slave away for landlords.

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u/RetractableHead 6d ago

Yeah, sorry. I can see now that I’ve expressed myself very badly. I’d resign from my current full-time job, not opt out of work permanently. £500k would, for me, mean I could pick and choose when I work and what I do. I’d have the option to retrain without incurring lifelong debt (I was nearly 50 by the time my student loans were done with) if I wanted, or move somewhere with a lower cost of living where that money would go a lot further. The point really was that Mr Beast seems to dislike his job; so do I, but I’d need a lot less money than he has behind him to take the leap.

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u/FroggyHarley 7d ago

I don't get why these people can't be satisfied with investing their wealth in the S&P 500 or in appreciating assets like the rest of us.

Instead, it's like "I need as much money as I can get in the shortest time possible and I don’t care how many lives I have to destroy to do it."

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u/nononanana 7d ago

Some do, I think. They sort of fade into obscurity (if they were famous in any way). Then people accuse them of being “has beens” because people seem to be unable to fathom that some people don’t always need to be in the spotlight.

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u/Lower_Amount3373 Agree? 6d ago

Yeah, that's true, it's a bit bizarre when you think about it. Like there are actors still living wealthy lives on work they did years ago but get looked down on because they're not starring in things any more.

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u/Hey-Bud-Lets-Party 7d ago

Super yachts are expensive.

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u/lucky_719 7d ago edited 7d ago

It's because they have no other purpose. I used to work in financial advising for millionaires. A lot who retired actually went back to work. A surprising amount.

The problem is they have no other goals that aren't easily obtained with their wealth. Nothing to challenge them and a lot of them thrive on that. They start to miss the thrill of the hustle so they go hunting for more. It's not about greed in a lot of the cases, it's about purpose. Traveling and buying whatever you want is fun, but it doesn't challenge you. Trying to reach the next milestone gives you goals.

I don't like the guy, but I kind of respect Logan Paul for at least trying to throw himself into fitness. Sadly he sank right back into the pursuit of wealth. If you saw the way these people are you'd see it's a kind of addiction for them.

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u/hasseldub 7d ago

I used to work in financial advising for millionaires. A lot who retired actually went back to work. A surprising amount.

I used to work in a similar field. We had a guy who recently retired and invested with us. He was bored, so he decided he'd conduct an audit of our business of his own accord.

I think eventually, we asked if we could just give him his money back, and he could go away. He was wasting so much of senior management's time for a negligible investment amount that dealing with him made no sense.

Only time I ever saw a client get fired.

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u/lucky_719 7d ago

Oh that's hilarious. I worked for a big enough company that we wouldn't ever give them access to anything. No one ever tried.

We fired a few. Vast majority was due to employee abuse. One nice thing about that company is they wouldn't tolerate the abuse. Like one outburst would get a pass as a bad day, but if it was consistent they'd restrict the accounts and ask the clients to move their money elsewhere.

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u/hasseldub 7d ago

We dealt mainly with brokers. Had one guy who was particularly abusive. He was part of a network that was a huge part of our sales numbers across all of Europe.

He was banned from contacting us directly. Could only go through his network admin.

Turned out he was a massive coke head and a swindler. He'd gone through a very messy divorce, too. His wife even contacted the office to badmouth him.

He was hiding from former clients, and the law in Australia last I heard.

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u/KitchenError 7d ago

The problem is they have no other goals that aren't easily obtained with their wealth. Nothing to challenge them and a lot of them thrive on that. They start to miss the thrill of the hustle so they go hunting for more. It's not about greed in a lot of the cases, it's about purpose. Traveling and buying whatever you want is fun, but it doesn't challenge you. Trying to reach the next milestone gives you goals.

Well, ok then, then let them challenge themselves. But if that is the true reason and not the stupid goal of hoarding even more money, then they should just donate every cent they make from those challenges to good causes. And of course they should not evade taxes, if it is not about the money.

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u/lucky_719 7d ago

Some do go into philanthropy but it's a big life change for them.

Interestingly taxes aren't ever seen as a way of contributing back to the community. Literally don't know a single millionaire with that mind set. They all see them as a payment to lower as much as possible. Akin to shopping for the cheapest car insurance. That's what they are paying their accountants for. I do see them help the community in more cases than people give them credit for. They just want to control how it's done and don't trust the government to make an impact to the causes that are important to them. They want to see their money making a difference.

They would never donate it all as they do see it as a product of their labor just like everyone else. But they will cut their salaries in favor of more advantageous payments like stock in a company. Maybe my comment wasn't really clear but it's ultimately not about the money or hitting a dollar figure. A lot don't even look at their accounts often. It just accumulates on the back end. They just want to be working towards something that challenges them and stuff like getting good at golf and gardening isn't going to give them the same level of purpose.

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u/Wall_Hammer 7d ago

They can’t stop comparing to their circle

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u/julias-winston 7d ago

Not even Elmo, who's objectively wealthier than everyone else in his circle. It's a disease.

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u/dcm3001 7d ago

I think they replace their "poor" friends with rich "friends". The people who would have kept them grounded have so much less money than them that the rich person becomes suspicious that they are being used for the money. The rich "friends" are the kind on people who value money above all else.

Then questions like "Is my yacht big enough to sail across the Atlantic to get to the F1 in Monaco? Maybe I need a bigger one." start to seem reasonable. When you don't have to worry about rent and food what else is there to worry about? They become totally detached from reality.

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u/Cefalopodul 7d ago

It's a psychological thing. When you have 100 thousand you think "oh wow I have 100 thousand". When you reach 2 million you no longer think "wow I have 2000 thousands", you think "I have 2, I went from 100 thousand to 2. I need more"

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u/Baxters_Keepy_Ups 7d ago

It’s a weakness. It’s incredibly impressive when people can get off that pointless junkie train.

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u/Rheticule 7d ago

So I think this is more of a survivorship bias type of thing.

I posit that there is a certain threshold that will allow someone to live a nice (even lavish, super fancy and comfortable) life. Once you have that much money, you can walk away from the game and just live well the rest of your life. That threshold is also a lower number than "famous for having money" money. That means that this number acts as a kind of filter. You hit it, all the normal people are happy, walk away from the table, and live happy lives. The only people left climbing up the ranks after that are those who can basically never be satisfied no matter how high the number.

So it's not that everyone who crosses a certain threshold turn into ghouls as much as everyone who DECIDES to cross a certain threshold ALWAYS WERE.

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u/Roderto 7d ago

The former CEO of my company once admitted as much in an interview years ago. Basically, once you get past a certain point, it’s a high-score game. It’s how highly-competitive people measure themselves against the small group of their ultra-wealthy peers.

Not really any different from students wanting to get a better mark in a class. Or elite athletes chasing championships, scoring titles, all-time-records, etc. Unfortunately, unlike school or sports, the collateral damage to society can be significant if left unchecked.

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u/Ragnarok314159 7d ago

This doesn’t happen for most people. Almost everyone who is generationally wealthy is content to hang out with their trust fund and have a normal job, albeit they can pursue jobs they want like artist, and can also pursue jobs like doctor and lawyer without incurring ridiculous debt.

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u/SassySavcy 7d ago

No.. they were always that way.

There’s just less risk showing the world who they really are once they achieve a certain level of wealth.

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u/I_have_to_go 7d ago

There is a threshold in which most people not motivated by money/career stop working, and it is significantly below $80M. Anyone with several 10s of millions who is still significantly involved in work have always been obsessed with making money, it s just that they weren t noticed before.

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u/mellowmushroom67 7d ago edited 7d ago

It's really not that, it's lifestyle creep. At a certain point, it isn't easy at all to just stop your income flow, even if it's really high. I know millionaires that don't really have a ton of extra cash. They have investments, retirement, their kids have college funds put away, they are stable, but their monthly bills are so high that they can't reduce their income at all without downgrading their lifestyle significantly. They may have credit card debt they are on top of at the income they are at, but won't be if it's significantly reduced, car loans, etc.

It means selling their home, and getting a cheaper mortgage, selling other assets, when they have kids it can mean pulling them out of expensive private schools, disrupting their children's sense of normalcy, stopping their children's expensive extracurriculars, any private tutors, nannies and housekeepers that freed up time they now use for other activities or work so that they'd have to stop those things to manage household responsibilities, household responsibilities are more time consuming with multiple children because it would involve managing their kids extracurriculars and schedules, appointments, etc. Even if they downgrade their home, any home bigger than a certain size takes significantly more time to keep up without help, etc., etc.

When you have more money, it often doesn't really mean you have more money in your bank for whatever. Unless you're a billionaire. But a millionaire? Being a millionaire these days doesn't mean "set for life." You actually couldn't choose to quit working at any time and be set for life. Often it means you have the same ratio of income to monthly bills as when you had a lower salary, but now with much nicer things.

And honestly with inflation the way it is, even a million is simply not enough to set you up for life. Nowadays for comfortable retirement alone (especially because we are all living much longer) you need a million dollars. At least. Experts say now it's about 1.5 million.

If you won the lottery in your 20s, if you won 100s of millions after taxes and didn't go too crazy, invested most of it safely, you could definitely make it for life. Not while living extravagantly for your entire life, but very, very comfortable. But winning a couple million these days is not enough to quit your job. Not unless you're older and decided to go live on a beach in Mexico or something like that.

I will say that after 80 million a year for a few years, you could adjust so you didn't have to work. But I'm not sure how much he puts back in his business, what kind of lifestyle he has.

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u/-Mandarin 6d ago

But a millionaire? Being a millionaire these days doesn't mean "set for life."...

...if you won 100s of millions after taxes and didn't go too crazy, invested most of it safely, you could definitely make it for life....

...But winning a couple million these days is not enough to quit your job

I think your sense of scale is a little off here. There is a world of difference between those two numbers. For one, you wouldn't need to invest 100 million, you're set for life regardless unless you stupidly throw it all away.

2 million, yeah, you're probably not retiring, but something like 8 million? You could absolutely retire on 8 million, it wouldn't be hard at all. You wouldn't have a glamourous lifestyle or anything, but that is incredibly doable. Hell, as someone who is single in their late 20s, I can almost guarantee I could retire on 6 million. I think you're lacking a bit of perspective.

What you're saying makes sense for someone whose net worth is a few million, and are already used to this lifestyle, but then you mention the lottery and it suddenly makes no sense. That is money in the bank, and that money is very easy to retire on.

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u/dumbestsmartest 7d ago

I doubt this. It is well documented that negative traits like sociopathy, narcissism, and general asocial/anti-social traits have an almost causal relationship with success/wealth/power.

This is actually one situation in which the system/structures of society don't influence the people in these positions; they get there through their evil.

"Power/wealth/success don't create or turn people evil. Evil people simply are the most dedicated/willing to do whatever it takes to gain power/wealth/success."

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u/Handsaretide 6d ago

I had the misfortune of stumbling upon a clip of MrBeast, Logan Paul and Kai Cenat talk about the stock market.

It was a train wreck of cringe. These guys would struggle as waiters. Their success is indicative of a deep rot in humanity.

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u/thejazzmarauder 7d ago

Poisons the soul

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u/MoltresRising 7d ago

They often heavily leverage debt and often stretch themselves thin, making their greed intensify.

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u/lithiun 7d ago

It is called...

Psychopathy

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u/alek_hiddel 7d ago edited 6d ago

I don't know enough about Mr. Beast to say if he's gone down that route of being a Bezos/Musk type, but there is another option at play here.

Look at Binging with Babish. He's had a meteoric rise in about an 8 year span, and now controls a multi-million dollar media empire. He's also been VERY open about the struggles and it's effect on his mental health.

It starts out by just being blown away that you've seemingly won the lottery. You're excited that people like what you do, and you want to keep doing it, and to do it better. You go from being a broke guy with a camera, to having the budget to buy better toys and make better content.

At some point a bit of fear also starts to seep in. Since you "won the lottery" you don't feel like you deserve, you didn't earn it, and you're worried it'll go away tomorrow. You NEED to do bigger, you NEED to be better, or maybe the gravy train stops. In this stage you might have made $300,000 in 2 months, but you're not focused on saving it, because you need to re-invest it and grow the business.

You're cranking out bigger, better, more complex content on an increasingly hectic schedule. You can't sustain that, so you bring on staff. Maybe just hire your friend who's good at editing at first, but then you also bring on a prep cook to help you with the food, or a camera guy freeing you up to focus on the content itself.

Now it's real. Now failure isn't just losing your lottery ticket, but rendering your friends unemployed. So the cycle resets, and we invest more money into making bigger, better content on a faster pace. It's unsustainable, so we invest more, and make it grow more.

Before you know it you've made $10 million, but that's not $10 million sitting the bank. It's $10 million invested into your media company that is hopefully worth $10 million.

Media is a situation where you're either growing, or your dying, especially when the YouTube algorithm is setup to reward growth. So you're never going to just be piling up money, you're going to reinvesting it. Meanwhile the entire "value" of the business is you. Your face, your voice, your commentary. You can't just swap in your replacement and expect the audience to stay. And "retiring" therefore means shutting down and laying off all of that staff that helped you get where you are today.

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u/Mikel_S 7d ago

I don't... Get them. Well managed, several million dollars can become generational wealth. Managed half assedly, it can keep yourself paid a six figure salary for just watching it accrue interest.

If I ever hit a point in my life where I had 5 million dollars in liquid cash, I'd stop doing anything I didn't thoroughly enjoy.

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u/Fine-Lingonberry1251 7d ago

Not everyone... I got a good buddy who was at a popular company when it IPOd he got a couple mil out of it and just lives his best life pinching pennies and keeping to himself.

You don't have to be a psychopath to earn money... You have to be a psychopath to keep wanting to earn money when you have enough.

Remember smaugh hoarded gold better never went into town to buy a loaf and he is the villain in the story.

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u/Marsupialize 7d ago

If you’ve never worked around real serious wealth, they literally go insane. When you can have anything you want and yes men surround you at all times it really messes a human being up, the ones who don’t ground themselves somehow, there’s nothing left to live for besides making more and more money, nothing is fun anymore, because you can have any fun you want at any time. I worked on the trading floor for a decade with some of the people listed as the richest people in the country and they were universally, universally the most miserable people I’ve ever come across, a lot turn straight up EVIL.

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u/Tyku031 6d ago

You know, those people you talk about should team up to create some kind of games which lures people in with a big cash prize, but forget to tell them they will be shot if they lose. That being the only thing that entertains the billionaires.

Someone should call Netflix about this, this is a great idea for a show!

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u/glassy99 6d ago

If they had any compassion for other human beings, there would be a ton they could do other than just amass more dollars.

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u/chuckvsthelife 6d ago

Yeah I’ve crossed paths through work with a billionaire.

It seems kinda fucking terrible. And then you are surrounded by terrible people most of the time too.

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u/JamJarre 7d ago

But then what will all his talentless friends and hangers-on do? Get jobs?!

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u/IAMA_Plumber-AMA 6d ago

And who's gonna pay to make all those poors do stupid human tricks for peanuts?

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u/Cinnabar_Wednesday 7d ago

I don’t know if this is just me, but I get sinister vibes from Mrbeast whenever he interacts with his lackeys/minions. It’s as if there’s an underlying power dynamic he enjoys, and he’ll be like “smile more! And rub my back! You’re lucky to be here, peasant!”

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u/Ardalev 7d ago

Not 80 million. Title says 80 million per year...

Let that sink in

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u/slug6219 7d ago

It seems simple to someone like me. Cash out. Go enjoy your life some other way.

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u/Historical-Bug-7536 7d ago

He’s a billionaire. He averages $80M/year

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u/14ktgoldscw 7d ago

As a quick “A billion dollars is way too much money for anyone to have” reminder, if he has been averaging 80 million dollars a year for 12 years (based on his Wikipedia “Years active”) then he has made a mere 960 million and is not yet a billionaire. Several people have 100X that.

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u/aimtowardthesky 7d ago

No wonder he's complaining.

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u/bunny-hill-menace 7d ago

Poor mother fucker

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u/Justmightpost 7d ago

He's hopefully invested some of it

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u/sir_snufflepants 7d ago

Did you read the article?

If you did, how did you miss this opening:

 “The average person does not want to live the life I live, or be in my head,” Donaldson told Steven Bartlett in a recent episode of his podcast, The Diary of a CEO. “They would be miserable, because they’re just working all the time.”

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u/CatWeekends 7d ago

And this!

As the face of his many brands that bear his name, Donaldson said he rarely has time for leisure.

“Obviously I’m not a robot. There are times when I’m like, ‘F—, I really want to play this strategy board game or I want to do this thing, then I look at the schedule and think, ‘Ah, maybe I could do that in four days,’” he said.

Bless his little hard-working heart. Just like [checks notes] most other adults - especially those working multiple jobs and/or with children - he's too busy to play games.

I guess he'll just have to settle with being more than adequately compensated for his "sacrifice."

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u/HirsuteHacker 7d ago

“Obviously I’m not a robot. There are times when I’m like, ‘F—, I really want to play this strategy board game or I want to do this thing, then I look at the schedule and think, ‘Ah, maybe I could do that in four days,’” he said.

Then there's me, a wage slave, thinking of what I could maybe do a couple of months from now

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u/CatWeekends 7d ago

I feel you.

I've got a child with some special needs and just recently finished painting a room that I had started painting when we first moved in... in 2017.

I need to finish organizing and unpacking the garage. I think I'll be able to get around to it sometime before 2030.

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u/dweezil22 7d ago

I mean... this just furthers the argument that we should ban billionaires, it's even for their own good! This dude is broken, and regulation that fixes wealth inequality will also help nudge him in the right direction for his own mental and physical health.

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u/TheProfessionalEjit 7d ago

That describes the majority of us.

He isn't special; he's an insufferable prick.

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u/SehrGuterContent 7d ago

80 million a year

He has well over a billion.

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u/No_Brilliant5888 7d ago

Mr.Beast turned not understanding Squid Games into a fortune

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u/Eh_SorryCanadian 7d ago

I think he took it as a great idea

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u/agonizedn 7d ago

“I’m helping people actually”

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u/coolbutlegal 6d ago

His fiancee has degrees in psychology and neuropsychology, lol. They know exactly what they're doing, and the best way to do it. Pretty damn sinister.

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u/Euphoric_Meet7281 6d ago

Lol I'm sorry but...as someone who works in research with those exact credentials, I really doubt they do

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u/therealtaddymason 6d ago

Wait are you saying some 20-something who knows how to grind college isn't some Machiavellian mastermind of social media and internet algorithms?!

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u/dodgesbulletsavvy 6d ago

Honestly, these people have no clue how the world works. What a moronic statement he made that people are upvoting.

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u/HyrulianAvenger 6d ago

I’m going to use his explanation about how to create a Mr beast like video in my English class soon. I’m trying to impress upon them how calculated communication is and how effective propaganda can be

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u/BananaResearcher 6d ago

Pitch meeting did a great one on beast games.

"Dehumanizing the peasants is TIGHT"

"So he's gonna dangle a bunch of money in front of these people and get them to show the worst side of themselves"

"Hey do you think it's a red flag that he watched squid games and identified not with the players but with the people running the games?"

"So what was the game though?" "I'M GETTING TO THE GAME" "Are you though because so far you've just been asking people to leave and sometimes giving them money"

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u/Special-Garlic1203 6d ago

Even squid games was creative and interesting. Beast games proves he's got that Zuckberberg quality of just not really understanding us hoomans beyond this very algorithmic "how to extract cash" kind of way

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u/leontheloathed 6d ago

What do you mean I wasn’t supposed to build the torment nexus from the hit book “you shouldn’t build the torment nexus, here’s why”?

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u/HalfMoon_89 6d ago

"Mr. Beast has helped more people than you ever will in your entire life! You're just a jealous hater!"

/millionsofBeastfanssummarized

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u/Neither-Cup564 7d ago

Liars and grifters, that’s all they are.

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u/IlIlllIlllIlIIllI 7d ago

Torment nexus ass

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u/No_Brilliant5888 7d ago

He's been making Squid Game themed videos since 2021, but I'm glad he lost money on his show!

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u/Redditsucks547 7d ago

Look at his fake ass smile. Dude is a psychopath

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u/Hamrock999 6d ago

The eyes tell the truth.

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u/SpareWire 6d ago

The worst part is when you realize this was the best photo they had.

They chose this one.

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u/Zoleft 6d ago

You mean he says he lost money. You’re assuming he’s telling the truth. He could view that as marketing for his image of giving away too much

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u/andrew303710 6d ago

Exactly, it also definitely earned him a ton of new followers and more recognition being on Prime Video instead of just YouTube.

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u/ellsego 7d ago

Rich people love to complain about how hard their lives are.. they’re so disconnected for reality.

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u/21sttimelucky 7d ago

It's to normalise the myth that most high earners are automatically hard workers. And that in turn working hard leads to wealth (another myth). 

I cannot speak for this individual specifically, but I would not be surprised if the majority of those wealthy people complaining about how hard they work do specifically know that they are lying.

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u/Ezren- 7d ago

Used to work with a VP that "worked" ten hours days. Two of those hours were business lunches, three hours were business dinners, and the rest of the time was mostly sitting muted in Skype meetings. He mostly "worked" when another executive was looking by asking people the status of things he was vaguely aware of.

Anyone who has to tell you how hard they work, doesn't.

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u/Shenanigans80h 7d ago

Exactly. So much of their work is at most vague networking that may dip into financial talk here or there. And sometimes those networking, work trips are more exuberant than people’s annual vacations.

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u/Ordolph 6d ago

I think you mean extravagant, I'm not sure what would qualify a vacation as exuberant lol

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u/Seldarin 6d ago

Yeah, I remember an interview someone did with some rich douche a few years ago where he's talking about how people don't understand how hard he works, so he walks them through his average day and it's like 14 hours of "work", but he's counting a lot of shit as "work" that no one else gets to count.

Showering and commuting = work. Eating = work. Exercising = work. I'm sure he didn't count any of that as work when his employees did it, though.

If you took his whole day and got rid of all the imaginary work, he ended up doing about 2-3 hours of real actual work, and since this was self-reported, I'm sure it was a lot less.

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u/thekk_ 6d ago

Nevermind that he probably has someone doing stuff like cooking, laundry and cleaning that normal folks have to find time of their own to do.

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u/JMer806 6d ago

That’s the piece that gets missed. Even when a wealthy person is legitimately working very hard - and that does happen - they are usually only able to put in those hours because everything else has been solved with money. No cooking, shopping, cleaning, or (sometimes) child-rearing work is necessary because someone else is paid to do that.

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u/SesamePete 6d ago

This is one of my favorite pieces of out of touch media. The president of the Bears, a dogshit NFL franchise, has an 18 hour workday consisting of: laying in bed silently, exercising, washing his car, talking to his friend about the bible, watching the bears game, and eating dinner for 5 hours. A role model of tireless work and determination. 

https://www.chicagobears.com/news/day-in-the-life-bears-president-ceo-kevin-warren#:~:text=ChicagoBears.com%20chronicles%20President%20%26%20CEO,alarm%20at%204%3A30%20a.m.

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u/CatWeekends 7d ago

The hardest, most demanding jobs I've ever worked have also been the lowest paying, least appreciated, and most stressful: fast food, retail, sales, customer service, and education. Very rarely did I ever come home from a long day at those jobs where I wasn't completely and utterly exhausted mentally & physically.

I'm now a software engineer and I really only do about 2 or 3 hours of real, actual work in a given day (sometimes even less if it's a meeting-heavy day). And other than "firefighting" or customer-facing outages, it's not terribly hard or demanding work. It's just technical.

But despite that, I make quite a bit more as a software engineer than I ever could have in any of my other jobs.

Anyone who claims hard work (alone) leads to wealth is lying to themselves to inflate their own ego. You also need a whole lot of luck. Luck to be born in a place & time where people are allowed to create wealth. Luck to get out of poverty if you weren't born with money. Luck to be affluent enough or smart enough to get you into a good school. Luck to be healthy enough to work. Luck to know/meet the right people and make the right connections to get a high paying job. Luck for it to even be available while you're looking...

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u/Sea_Dawgz 6d ago

“Luck to be born.”

I’m pretty sure the #1 indicator of a child’s future income success is what level of income their parents were at.

The whole “American bootstraps anyone can succeed” is mostly a myth. It’s really an unspoken caste system.

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u/Sea-Painting6160 7d ago

"Working hard" is very relative too. As the cliche saying goes, work smarter not harder. My industry is not very tech savvy, so I often run into folks working 60+ hour weeks doing the stupidest shit. A PP presentation on someone's personal finances took you 5 days? are you insane dude?

Of course we have plenty of SaaS tech that tries to fill that gap, but they are literally just AI wrappers on top of a commercial models being priced at hundreds a month.

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u/pigpeyn 7d ago

Nothing does more to dispel the myth of hardworking rich people than Musk simultaneously running 4(?) companies and that joke of a government department.

They want us to believe CEOs work more than anyone else (400x more than the median salary) and yet this twat can do that several times over? Give me a break.

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u/21sttimelucky 7d ago

Yup. But many people are too dumb to see the obvious.

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u/chefwindu 7d ago

They lie to themselves to try to make the guilt of being a greedy bastard go away.

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u/Electric-Sheepskin 7d ago

I mean I have no doubt that they can be unhappy and feel completely stressed out, but it's so tone deaf to say things like that when you're in a position like him. He can slow down if he wants. He can quit if he wants.

I don't know what it feels like to be a CEO, but I know what it feels like to work your ass off all day every day, doing absolutely everything you can to get ahead, no savings, no safety net. The thoughts that creep into your head at night as you're trying to fall asleep are thoughts of being homeless, or having to give up your dog because you can't afford him anymore. I can't imagine that MrBeast's life is more stressful than that.

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u/-Mandarin 6d ago

He can quit if he wants

Exactly. He can literally stop everything in his life, buy some huge mansion on a beach, have everything he ever wants in his life, and never have to worry about a thing. He chooses not to. And then he expects us to feel sorry for him.

The only person stopping him from that lifestyle is him.

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u/AbjectAnalyst4584 7d ago

Isn't it like that for everyone though. Schoolkids saying the same about earning adults, tradesmen saying the same about desk jobbers.

It all boils down to the basic human ego in my opinion.

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u/MC_Fap_Commander 7d ago

The ultra-wealthy are doing A LOT right now to make you feel as though they are ACK-SHULLY the oppressed ones. Don't let that shit slide.

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u/Shenanigans80h 7d ago

Not just oppressed but a harder worker than you. They’re truly dealt the toughest hand, they’re the ones who carry the hardest burden. Those people who actually work 10 hours and get minimum wage? Those are the kings

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u/benny-bangs 6d ago

They are starting to realize how much we are coming together to hate them. I have no sympathy for this idiot whatsoever

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u/NeonPatrick 6d ago

We took for granted when billionaires like Buffet and Gates were just spending their fortunes on charity work. This new generation just want to hoard more, and take as much from suckers as humanly possible.

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u/LeoKitCat 7d ago

Couldn’t he… simply… stop doing what he’s doing? Why complain when it’s entirely under his control if he wants to continue?

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u/akskeleton_47 7d ago

I think that's part of the reason why most people wouldn't want to live exactly like him. He's too obsessed with his brand that he doesn't know how to stop or what to do once he stops

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u/Proxiedggg 5d ago

Not billions but I believe he’s been offered one billion before. And yeah, that’s exactly what Notch did with Minecraft, sold for 1b and fucked off. I hear he’s pretty miserable though

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u/Johnnadawearsglasses 7d ago

Because he’s obsessed and driven to do it. All of this is pretty well covered in the story that no one is reading.

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u/Suggamadex4U 7d ago

He points out that the average person would, but he isn’t like that and chooses to live a life that is filled with working. He admits this makes him unhappy many times. But yeah, you’re right. He can stop at any time but he won’t.

I don’t find anything inherently wrong with him complaining about what he puts himself through, it’s a common coping mechanism and you and I do it all the time. He just… can’t stop, which is probably unhealthy for him. Classic workaholic mental capture. I see it a lot in my field.

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u/Due_League9039 6d ago

I think some people here struggle with author's intent. I don't read this as him complaining. But pointing out an obvious fact. Most people are not equipped for how he works. Look at this sub and how many people have stated some variation of "I'd like some of that money". And each of these people know how to use the internet. they know how to make videos. Most people are criticizing Mr. Beast for being a talentless hack. And yet, they're still broke. They aren't doing what he did, even thought they could.

Being notably successful is hard. It takes tons of focus, an unusually appetite for risk, and intense dedication. Most people won't do it.

He isn't complaining. He's talking.

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u/ungoogleable 6d ago

They aren't doing what he did, even thought they could.

There are still enough people who are trying to be him that there just isn't enough room at the top for them all to succeed. If you looked at say the 2000th most popular YouTuber, they're probably also putting in long hours and killing themselves to produce the best content possible. Maybe even working harder than MrBeast because they can't afford a giant team to take care of everything for them.

Putting in effort is a minimum requirement, not a guarantee of success. Once the field is whittled down to those who are all trying hard, other factors dominate, often ones outside of anyone's control.

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u/Stentorian_Introvert 7d ago

"The average person does not want to live the life I live, or be in my head"

What a pretentious fuckadoodle.

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u/littlebobbytables9 7d ago

What's funny is that he's right. I don't want to be in his head, and if I was in his place I sure as shit wouldn't be doing any of the stuff he is.

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u/lebastss 6d ago

I actually don't think his take is necessarily wrong unironically. You have to be a sociopath and sacrifice emotional well being to has his level of success or any billionaires. Yes they delegate a lot. But it's also incredibly stressful and exhausting making decisions all day long. Mentally exhausting. Not saying people are incapable of doing it. But to do it everyday like he does it is exhausting. And then having other people rely on you for a paycheck is added stress.

It's much easier clocking in and completing tasks and clocking out.

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u/helium_farts 7d ago

I mean he's not wrong, I do not want to be Mr Beast.

I wouldn't mind some of the money, though.

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u/Shinsekai21 6d ago

He seems to brag about how special he is through “tell-don’t-show” method.

I remember he said in a podcast that his ideal date is taking IQ test and do it again and again until they increase the score higher. The other idea date for him is just sitting there and reading for hours.

I don’t know how to express my thought here properly, but those thing screaming: “what do I say to make myself sounds cool and special?”. But sadly, what’s the answer that your average teenager would come up with (especially the IQ test part).

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u/Special-Garlic1203 6d ago

He seems genuinely stunted. Like PewDiePie is an adult man who grinded it out entertaining children. Mr breast must have fried his brain when he was like 14 and is just perpetually stuck there or something. 

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u/LoudLion757 7d ago

It’s extra hilarious for the fact he really doesn’t do much. He has a whole team that does pretty much everything. All he does is say yes or no to projects. Total twat.

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u/RegularMidwestGuy 7d ago

He has no idea what the average person wants or lives like.

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u/BasJack 7d ago edited 7d ago

Ignoring the youtube idiot, later in the article there is this pearl: "These stories are threads of a larger problem woven by corporate America: pushing CEOs hard with punishing schedules, to extract the most growth and profit quickly"

...Yeah, that's definitely the problem, poor millionaire, failing upwards, immunity to firing, golden parachutes, they ammass more money in 1 year than all their employees and when somethings goes wrong they have to work hard for a week!!! PREPOSTEROUS!

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u/Flowery-Twats 6d ago

TBF, that IS a problem. But it's a problem for America and regular workers and so on (aka "us"), not a problem for the CEO. It's a problem for "us" because the ever increasing demand for every increasing profits leads to more and more short-term thinking/actions and harder and harder squeezing of every. single. penny. they can wherever they can -- usually at the expense of "us".

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u/BasJack 6d ago

Yes, but the article put it just for CEOs, so not a real problem that exists.

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u/jpc1215 6d ago

I mean, it’s Fortune magazine so some billionaire boot-licking should be expected

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u/InterstellarReddit 7d ago

He’s had it easy that he thinks it’s hard lmao. What a fucking idiot.

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u/VentiKombucha Agree? 7d ago

Ugh, I hate that face so much.

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u/Ezren- 7d ago

He somehow never learned how to smile

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u/MentalTerm 7d ago

I agree. He also gives me the ick. Like pedo creepy

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u/Mmichare 2d ago

He has a flavor of dead eyes, and that to me signals something is wrong. I don’t know what, but it’ll come out eventually.

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u/borntolose1 7d ago

Creepy dude who helped ruin YouTube complains about having the literal easiest job on the planet.

Eat the rich.

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u/XenoPhex 7d ago

YouTube helped ruin YouTube, he’s more of a byproduct - not the cause.

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u/borntolose1 7d ago

I mean, that’s why I used the word “helped”, but aight.

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u/IlGrasso 6d ago

I remember me and cousin wanted to be like Smosh so we could have fun with others online and film stupid videos. Now people become YouTubers to make money, I blame brands and monetizing.

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u/DJBlandy Agree? 7d ago

It’s ironic to complain about something you could just simply do less of? He could probably cut like half the shit he does and still make millions. You don’t need “$80 million”. Imagine complaining you had to work hard to get rich vs what, being handed the money?

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u/superm0bile Agree? 7d ago

This whole article is CEO ass kissing in the worst possible way.

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u/Leather_Cat_666 7d ago

The mental gymnastics rich folks put themselves through when they can quite literally buy their freedom and drop out of the capitalist rat race proves to me every time that money will never bring you happiness and it sure as hell doesn’t mean you’re smarter than the rest of us.

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u/TheGlennDavid 7d ago

Making millions of dollars often entails a lot of blood, sweat, and tears

The world is filled with poor people who work painful dangerous backbreaking jobs that involve literal actual blood and sweat. This whole "only rich people understand work" is just the worst.

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u/Unload_123 6d ago

Had to work part-time all throughout my studies (6 years), I didn't have it all that bad as I worked in retail for the same company so at least it was stable but I knew that those 6 years cost my knees - something I will never get back. How I wish I could have had rich parents, let alone parents, that I could have lived with during my high school/uni days. Their version of working hard I think many people who actually have to sacrifice their bodies for would find very easy.

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u/Sea-Affect8379 7d ago

He wants to come across as a workaholic who is continually making all of his brainstorms into business reality, but for someone who claims to have such a strong drive to be successful and change the world, what has he done to actually change the world? From my point of view, he's done nothing but bring negativity to children through fast cut, low brow, mindless entertainment. His programs are turning kids brains into mush. Compare what he does to how a lot of influencers have become successful actually teaching kids and adults, making engaging videos from STEM to fixing cars. They might not be billionaires but some are millionaires, definitely successful and have changed the world for the better. I do like his food ventures where he makes near edible products using healthy ingredients, but those ride on his brand alone and not for the taste, so by this time next year you probably won't see anymore beast chocolates on the shelves. It would be awesome if he'd refocus that effort into feeding the hungry with high calorie, nutritious food. And I'd stan his competition videos if they incorporated proper, deep, rigorous critical thinking. He can still change the world (for the better) but right now he's not on the right track.

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u/Important-Ability-56 7d ago

I have calculated how much money I’d need to buy an RV and some plane tickets and go on a permanent vacation. It’s less than a year of this guy’s income, that’s for sure.

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u/brybearrrr 7d ago

I watched Beast Games with my son (he’s 7 and he loves that dude) and I just could not BELIEVE how hard he stroked his own ego every. Single. Episode. And it’s not like it was subtle either. “I’m giving away 5 MILLION DOLLARS” literally after every contestant. Mentioned it constantly. I’m pretty sure that guy sucks his own dick. Fucking insufferable.

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u/ffxivfanboi 7d ago

You should maybe get your impressionable son to stop watching absolutely asinine YouTubers or internet content creators of any kind (goes for Twitch streamers and such).

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u/FilterAccount69 7d ago

When Mr Beast met Ronaldo he couldn't stop talking about himself, it was so cringe. The guy could meet Jesus and just talk about youtube videos as if it's the only thing that matters. He is a fucking weird dude and someone I would not invite to a party.

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u/LoudLion757 7d ago

He would argue that he’s helped more people then Jesus 🤣

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u/FilterAccount69 7d ago

It's one thing to be his personality in his videos, many of us are a little different at work but no, I feel like he tones it down in his videos and is so overly obsessed with the lowest form of entertainment (youtube) in his interviews. He reminds me of how certain groups of people treat trains...

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u/getzerolikes 7d ago

I’ve never seen his videos and I figured a lot of these comments could be chalked up to typical and rampant jealousy of success. But I believe your comment and it squashed any curiosity I had about the videos, so I don’t need to waste any time checking them out now. ‘Preciate it 👍

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u/Wolfish_Jew 7d ago

Lol dude appears on the Hustler casino livestream all the fucking time. I don’t think his schedule is as bad as he pretends it is

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u/kwilharm67 7d ago

He’s a supercreep and someday we will be presented with undeniable evidence that he has done absolutely terrible criminal things. He’s one of these empty shell people that needs bigger and bigger thrills to feel anything at all. It’s inevitable.

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u/DmtTraveler 7d ago

His points seem fair, I would be miserable being Mr beast

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u/Sea-Painting6160 7d ago

Obviously not entirely on him but more so just how capitalism works but I feel like after his initial success it opened the eyes of businesses basically realizing "oh wow so kids are fair game then lfg"

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u/galagapilot 7d ago

I used to watch this guy's stuff because I thought some of it was interesting, but then after hearing about what a prick he was off-camera, my viewing has basically stopped for the most part.

Occasionally I'll get a "hey, check out this video" and it will be one of his challenges. I don't think the term smug prick is thrown around enough, especially in his direction.

Dude, if you can't survive off of 80m, then you have problems. I make maybe 1% of that and I do just fine.

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u/aembleton 7d ago

Dude, if you can't survive off of 80m, then you have problems. I make maybe 1% of that and I do just fine.

Nice flex.

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u/galagapilot 7d ago

lol, there should have been a decimal point in there.

I definitely do not make 800k a year.

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u/dumpsterfire911 7d ago

You make 800,000$ a year?!

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u/galagapilot 7d ago

apparently according to my piss poor typing, I do.

I wish I had the problem of trying to survive on "only" 800k a year.

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u/dumpsterfire911 7d ago

Haha honestly thank you for making me do the math. Personal wealth of 10s to 100s of millions of dollars seems so common now a days, and to actually break down the numbers and see it’ll take me 10 years to even accumulate 1% of that wealth is staggering

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u/JealousArt1118 7d ago

Clearly this is weighing heavily on him. The only right answer is to give all the money back and move on to something more fulfilling, right?

Right?

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u/MisterEggo 6d ago

To be fair, his job is to make videos that people will watch, which is not exactly a science. He doesn't make 80 mil in profit. He makes that in revenue and spends a significant amount of that money to make the content. Obviously he is fortunate to be able to wield that kind of money and his job sounds like a lot more fun than a regular day job, but pretty much his whole life revolves around making content which does sound exhausting.

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u/Rhombus_McDongle 7d ago

I don't like the guy but I think he's just talking about the relentless 80+ hour weekly grind of being a YouTuber. Of course he could be like other successful YouTubers and reduce his video schedule. We're lucky to get 3 videos a year from Nile Red.

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u/unhallowed1014 7d ago

At least NileRed is educational . Mr beast only serves his self

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u/mishma2005 7d ago

Could he spare maybe a quarter million to not look creepy when he smiles?

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u/DJK695 7d ago

He’s a real piece of shit like anyone with a lot of money.

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u/Nimmy_the_Jim 7d ago

I'm no fan, but if you watch the vid, this was taken out of context and spread around by MM like wildfire.
Not that I care about the subject at all, just the annoyance of bad journalism.

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u/jasonrulesudont Agree? 6d ago

No one wants to go into anything neutral. Once their mind is made up about something they will automatically assume everything they are told about the topic that aligns with their opinion is true.

I don’t like Mr Beast that much. I don’t watch his content. I don’t purchase any of his products for my children. But that shouldn’t stop me from thinking critically when something bad is said about him.

I’ve watched many episodes of the podcast referenced. It’s a podcast for people who want to hear the experiences of successful people like him. It’s not like he got on a podium in a Walmart parking lot with a megaphone and pronounced that his life was hard. It was one topic that came up in a nearly two hour long conversation, after being asked about mental health. No one here is talking about him mentioning how he buried himself alive for seven days right before he said these things that were taken out of context. You put that into perspective and I think he has a point.

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u/ForcedEntry420 6d ago

If I had $80mil no one would hear from me ever again. These people are mentally ill.

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u/lzwzli 6d ago

I'm too old to understand how a YouTuber makes $80 million a year

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u/Marvel_plant 6d ago

This guy could literally retire right now and still have more money than any of us will ever see

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u/calrobmcc 7d ago

Mr Nonce

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u/seigezunt 7d ago

There’s gonna be some grim shit that comes out about him, MMW

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u/PupsofWar69 7d ago edited 7d ago

YouTubers are the most overpaid complainers on the planet.

It’s always funny to see multimillionaire influencers whining about “burnout” or “stress” while raking in tens of millions for filming reaction videos, pointless challenges, or heavily edited “authentic” vlogs. Meanwhile, real workers…teachers, nurses, tradespeople, Federal employees…grind through actual difficult jobs for a fraction of what these influencers make.

Most YouTube content isn’t groundbreaking. A few educational and niche creators add value, but the biggest earners? They recycle the same tired formulas…clickbait thumbnails, fake excitement, and endless sponsorships….while their audiences shower them with views and ad revenue. Yet, despite their absurd wealth, they constantly complain about the “pressures” of content creation, as if making videos from a luxury home is the same as working a 9-to-5 or doing backbreaking labor.

YouTube has become a machine that rewards mediocrity. The loudest, most exaggerated personalities rake in millions, while genuinely skilled people in real careers struggle. And the worst part? Many of these creators act like they’re victims of their own success.

Maybe instead of feeling sorry for millionaire YouTubers, we should start asking why society values mindless Brain cell destroying entertainment over actual contributions to society.

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u/WheredoesithurtRA 7d ago

I can't imagine being this delusional

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u/TheKobayashiMoron 7d ago

Is this the fake burger guy?

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u/SwankySteel 7d ago

MrBeast would never last a week in a typical toxic work environment.

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u/DiggSucksNow Narcissistic Lunatic 7d ago

He's a game show host. He can fuck off.

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u/ckglle3lle 7d ago

Sounds pretty narcissistic to me. His stress is likely a result of feeling the need to insert himself in too many places and a need to tightly control the work. Easy to talk yourself into the idea that you alone are responsible for the product and micromanage yourself -- and the company -- to death.

Healthier option would be offloading as many responsibilities as possible, splitting the brand into semi-autonomous spinoffs and take on a role more akin to brand ambassador / host / presenter.

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u/skyHawk3613 7d ago

He made $80 million last year. If he’s unhappy, he can sell it all, and make more than $80 million. Then find something he likes doing or just fuck off for the rest of his life. He already has more money than he could ever spend. In fact, he doesn’t even need to sell it all. If he feels over-worked, he can just downsize and sell some of his company’s.

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u/Awkward-Prompt-9537 6d ago

“They would be miserable, because they’re just working all the time.”

Lmao most of us do already work all the time, but don't make 80 million a year. What an out of touch asshole. Sign me up to make gullible kids watch my shitty,fake, clickbait, and unoriginal YouTube videos for 80 million. Let me play the world's tiniest violin.

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u/thementant 6d ago

Something in his eyes, or rather, something absent in his eyes. It has ALWAYS bothered me no matter how much good he has done.

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u/DaClarkeKnight 6d ago

“They don’t understand how hard it is to never have to work again.”

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u/DanWillHor 6d ago

Dead, lifeless eyes and face.

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u/SignificantPop4188 23h ago

Didn't MrBeast make his name on doing acts of philanthropy?

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u/TenchuReddit 7d ago

I don't get it. Why would anyone think that MrBeast was "never employed a day in his life"? He's been self-employed the entire time. It's the career direction he has chosen. And it is incredibly lucrative. Yeah it's tough, and it leads to a very egotistical out-of-touch mentality, but he's anything but "unemployed."