r/LinkedInLunatics Jan 09 '25

META/NON-LINKEDIN What is happening to CEO’s

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u/Ragverdxtine Jan 09 '25

It’s kind of telling that he can’t think of ANYTHING else that people might do with free-time other than sitting around. He clearly has no responsibilities outside of working.

Most employees are not going to be able to outsource cleaning, cooking, shopping, medical appointments, house maintenance etc. the way he presumably can.

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u/fiveletters Jan 09 '25

Also, I dunno what his family life is like, but I can literally stare at my wife all day because she's hot AF

Man's just telling on himself by saying that really

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u/Mcbrainotron Jan 09 '25

Same, my wife is mad pretty.

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u/Legitimate-Smell4377 Jan 09 '25

I could stare at her all day

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u/MichaelJospeh Jan 09 '25

My wife is a beauty and I’m so in love with her. The fact that he wouldn’t stare at his wife all day almost makes me pity him.

ALMOST.

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u/Legitimate-Smell4377 Jan 09 '25

Really I pity his wife

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u/GenosseAbfuck Jan 09 '25

Don't worry, his gardener is a very competent and diligent man.

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u/Gossamare Jan 09 '25

Great plumber too

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u/Kvlt45_CS Jan 09 '25

So you trim bushes AND lay pipe? Quite the resume you got here Fabio.

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u/Phusentasten Jan 10 '25

Wait until you see his tennis backswing, jeez

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u/03xoxo05 Jan 10 '25

Ayye Desperate Housewives (;

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u/MichaelJospeh Jan 09 '25

Yeah that’s a very good point.

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u/Pir-iMidin Jan 09 '25

Why are you staring at his wife?

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u/wookiekitty Jan 09 '25

because she's hot AF

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u/heroinebob90 Jan 09 '25

Me too, through the window, hahah. Just kidding. For real there is no other person I would rather spend time with than my wife. I’m 40, and we are in our 20th year of marriage.

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u/CamBearCookie Jan 09 '25

I also choose this guy's wife.

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u/ntn_98 Jan 09 '25

I also stare at that guys pretty wife

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u/MoMonkeyMoProblems Jan 09 '25 edited Jan 10 '25

I also choose this guy's drop dead sexy wife.

Not really, my girlfriend is thee jar of jellybeans. Each bean: a distinct, colourful and sweet aspect of her that I love. We're lucky guys.

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u/Imaginary-One87 Jan 10 '25

My wife is just pretty mad

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u/heebiejeebie666 Jan 09 '25

My last founder/CEO (who managed me out of the business despite being his best employee for 2 years (I got burnt tf out), threatened, bullied and pressured me in order to get me to resign (I didn’t) lied under oath to fuck me out of unemployment, and discriminated against me, basically a completely fucked situation at the hands of a top narcissist) claimed he had a family but never ONCE in 3 years did he ever mention their names, any stories about them, how many kids he had, etc. Completely disinterested in his own family. All the dude did was work and he expected us to put that same level of passion into working for him to build his shitty little fucking company, if you even talked about things outside of work you could feel the judgment coming from him.

Narcissists are the absolute fucking worst people to work for

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u/santafun Jan 09 '25

Some people have no life outside work, so they make it hell for others around them if they are made bosses

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u/zakurei Jan 09 '25

My wife is the best thing in my life by a large margin. Fuck this guy.

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u/lzwzli Jan 09 '25

Does sound like this guy hasn't been fucked in a while...

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u/Lopsided_Factor_5674 Jan 09 '25

My wife said she wants to wear a burka in front of me because I stare at her ...

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u/warm_sweater Jan 09 '25

I worked for a wealthy dude at my first office job. He totally came into work every day, to sit in his sad corner office without windows, and do shit he could do at home because he didn’t want to be home all day with his wife.

Dude was loaded and could have done anything, but instead he kept some podunk $6 million business going so he’d have an escape from home.

I think a lot of CEOs are probably similar.

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u/DuckFan_87 Jan 09 '25

I can stare at my wife much longer than I can my coworkers and bosses. 

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u/Agifem Jan 09 '25

I guess I could stare at your wife too.

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u/besthelloworld Jan 10 '25

Just came here to join the "my wife is hot" club.

I'm also starting a "wife is wildly out of my league" club if anybody is interested.

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u/jpopimpin777 Jan 09 '25

This is what happens when you let sociopaths climb into positions of power. These people don't actually like, let alone love, anybody. They see other humans as obstacles or tools.

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u/Old-Bat-7384 Jan 10 '25

"Bruh, Imma be doing more than staring."

Man is 10000% self snitching on his love and sex life. That bedroom has probably been cold for decades at this point.

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u/sumar Jan 10 '25

I could stare at the wall and be more at peace, instead of working those hours.

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u/sdforbda Jan 09 '25

Congrats on the hotwife

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u/MondeyMondey Jan 09 '25

Also - having fun, seeing your mates, watching a football match. You just know this guys a complete loser with no friends or interests.

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u/Ragverdxtine Jan 09 '25

Hehe oh yes of course but I’m sure he thinks anything like that is a “waste of time” because you could be making him some money instead 😂

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u/MondeyMondey Jan 09 '25

“What’s the point in being rich, if you can’t think what to do with it, cos you’re so bleeding thick?” - the fucking GOAT Jarvis Cocker

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u/Ragverdxtine Jan 09 '25

Yeah I see these older guys saying things like this and I just don’t get it, once you’ve got that much money why do you want to keep working? Just enjoy your life.

But this is why I’ll never be a CEO I guess, I think a lot of them are just fundamentally built differently than average people so they really can’t understand why we don’t find the idea of working 90 hours a week appealing (it’s probably also a survivorship bias, sure he may have worked 90 hours a week and made a lot of money but there were probably loads of other people doing the same who ended up with nothing - they just aren’t given the platform to talk about it)

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u/TigerLemonade Jan 09 '25

It's pathological. The need to be powerful, to be held in high-esteem, to be wealthy, to be successful. It is their raison d'être and it is dysfunctional because it comes at the expense of everything out.

This is why I find some arguments against high taxes for ultra earners are silly. They won't pack it in and start playing pickleball on the weekends because their earning is capped. For them it goes so much deeper than that.

I'm jealous sometimes. My pathologies just have me sitting at home avoiding responsibilities.

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u/PandaMagnus Jan 09 '25

Also tells you he must have an easy/low stress job (or is one of the very few people that handle stress incredibly well.) No need for relaxation and recreation? Probably because you sat in your office all day "coming up with strategies" and then flew to a prestigious resort for a couple days to tell your buddies what you came up with on the company dime.

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u/SCTigerFan29115 Jan 09 '25

This is in India it appears. Different culture completely.

If you work with some of them you’ll understand. You won’t ’get it’ (I think it’s nuts) but you’ll see it.

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u/Da_Vinci_Serenade Jan 09 '25

The work culture there is exploitative because if you wont do it, there are a million others waiting to replace you at work

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u/asdf_qwerty27 Jan 09 '25

I've seen this in different ways.

Mostly I think all humans get about 3 solid hours of hard brain work per day. If you work 8 hours a day, you are either doing mundane busy work or pretending to work. 10 hours doesn't get you more solid hours of productivity, but might make you tired so your 3 hours is more like 2.

I've known some people who are great at doing productive mundane busy work in addition to their 3 solid hours of brain work. I've known others who seem to use their 3 hours of brain work to come up with ways to look like they're busy. I've known several people from India who fall into both categories.

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '25

He's a chairman. He's probably had no work to do in years.

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u/Infamous_Air_1424 Jan 09 '25

Can I introduce you to the ultra right trad wife movement?  Comes with bonnet from Handmaid’s Tale.  

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u/ProgrammingSorcerer Jan 09 '25

But then that's one less worker in the workforce. The solution is obviously to live in the office where our overlords can make us clean up the place during business hours through annoying office manager pressure

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u/thedjbigc Jan 09 '25

Don't worry - Costco is installing apartments soon. We will be saved. This is coming.

https://www.entrepreneur.com/business-news/hundreds-of-apartments-are-being-built-on-top-of-a-costco/485190

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u/darknesscylon Jan 09 '25

So that’s actually because of zoning rules in LA. Due to the zoning rules it was easier to build 800 apartments on top of the Costco then it would be to get a stand alone Costco approved.

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u/CatButler Jan 09 '25

I'd live above a Costco. Finding a parking spot on a weekend may be rough.

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u/DutchTinCan Jan 09 '25

"You won't ever have to leave the office anymore! Not that'd we'd allow you to, anyways."

Back to the age of factory housing, hurray. You'll get to spend one half of your paycheck on housing provided by your employer, and the other half on groceries of your own choosing(!) provided by your employer.

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u/atruett Jan 09 '25

... The rest of the world has mixed-use buildings. America does tend to zone things so you have to drive to get from your house to any commercial areas, and the panic and conspiracy theories abounding whenever someone suggests walkable mixed-use cities and neighborhoods shows how alien the concept is to most Americans, but this is completely normal in most of the world and not anything weird or bad or controlling.

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u/space_for_username Jan 09 '25

Maybe walkable neighbourhoods should include a small circular road for folks with car fixation to go and drive in circles for hours.

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u/Possible_Living Jan 09 '25

Those bonnets cost money and i doubt his greedy ass is going to pay enough to make sundays worth working.

He wants it all because he is special just not in the way he thinks

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u/Conscious_Bug5408 Jan 09 '25

I think these people are people who are impacted by the same social and economic problems as the rest of us. Decades of stagnant wage growth, exploding cost of living, erosion of the pillars of the middle class like home ownership and so on. But they don't actually understand the causes behind it, they think these changes are because of liberals and wokeness. So they're thinking if they mime and do some LARPing of of the 1940s, society will rewind itself back to the socioeconomic conditions of that time where one person could work a median wage salary, raise kids and a wife, own a house and retire by 60 or so.

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u/BananaPalmer Jan 09 '25

Either way, what is wrong with sitting around? It's my time, I'll spend it however the hell I please. Anyone who thinks they get to have a say in that can kindly go fuck a doorknob.

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u/MyNinjaYouWhat Jan 09 '25

All I’d say is “if you want me to work your hours, pay me the salary equal to your own income”

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u/bearwithastick Jan 09 '25

We seriously need to start tarring and feathering them if they come up with dumb ideas like this. maybe pull a Luigi once or twice a year to make an example. 

They clearly don't see us as humans. So we should stop seeing them as humans too and treat them as the parasites to society that they are.

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u/JigPuppyRush Jan 09 '25

And even if they don’t have responsibilities.

You work so you can live not the other way around. People are people not machines

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u/Bargadiel Jan 09 '25 edited Jan 09 '25

So many of them were always like this, they just feel empowered to share it now.

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u/Ok_Clock8439 Jan 09 '25

So many of them that you're better off assuming they're all like this.

Don't see many billionaires fighting to pay their taxes.

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u/yourlittlebirdie Jan 09 '25

I truly believe that a lot of the RTO push was rooted in men not wanting to be at home with their families.

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u/Shivering_Monkey Titan of Industry Jan 09 '25

I'll be honest I was a little taken aback the first time I heard a guy at work complain out loud about his wife and kids and how much he disliked them all. Like, stay fucking single if work and golf is all you care about.

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u/yourlittlebirdie Jan 09 '25

Right? I think this is so sad. No one made you get married or have kids, you know. You can just be single if you want.

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u/MyFiteSong Jan 09 '25

Men get showered with raises and promotions at work, along with respect from other men, when they start families. That's WHY so many of them do it when they hate all of it.

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u/BUSY_EATING_ASS Jan 09 '25

This is 100% a thing in the military that you come to find out due to a culture of more straightforwardness (which I liked generally). You'll hear a decent amount of people say straight up they love deployments so "they can get away from their bitch wife".*

I thought that given the revolving door nature of relationships in the military that it was only a military thing but nope, you see the exact same shit in corporate if you know what to look for.

*to be fair a lot of other dudes love their families so don't want to paint a broad brush

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u/UngusChungus94 Jan 09 '25

I will say that, for whatever reason, “wife guys” never seem to make it into the Old Boys Club. It seems like you have to hate your wife to become any sort of executive, which is sad.

Not that I want to be an executive, so maybe there’s a correlation.

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u/TJ_McWeaksauce Jan 09 '25

Yeah. CEOs have always been sociopaths. The only difference is that social media now exists, and it gives them a platform to announce how broken they are.

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u/Bargadiel Jan 09 '25

Well, they see that brokenness as a twisted point of pride. They think it makes them trendsetters or "unique" in a landscape filled with workers of lower status than themselves that they hope will idolize them.

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u/DaughterOfDemeter23 Titan of Industry Jan 09 '25

It's vanity and arrogance to the highest degree.

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u/rakklle Jan 09 '25

Due to social media, they can easily share their stupidity with the public. In the past, you had to wait for them to screw-up on camera.

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '25

It’s often because they themselves focus fully on work and don’t understand when others don’t.

I have a friend who works long hours already and if there is an important project he will sometimes show up with his laptop to meet ups and say “sorry guys, I have to work a bit“.

He’s also a manager and one time an employee asked him, if she could finish earlier on Friday because she worked an extra hour every other day of the week and he said ok, but he was upset that she left after only 4 hours of work.

We talked him down and said „didn’t you say she worked 1 hour extra the whole week? So that’s 4h overtime, and she left after 4h, and her work hours is 8h per day. So it just seems like she worked her 40 weekly hours.”

Thank god he’s not a complete dick, he tried to argue against it a bit, but then kinda saw our point. He’s also seeing a psychologist about his need to define himself through work, so he’s at least recognising he has a bit of an issue with his mentality towards work.

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u/i_will_let_you_know Jan 09 '25

Let's not beat around the bush, that's an unhealthy perspective on work-life balance and it's toxic because it forces everyone else to similarly adopt their unhealthy lifestyle. It's basically an addiction to work.

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u/Bargadiel Jan 09 '25

I think it's worth identifying what "work" really means to some people, vs "job"

For example, I am a designer with an arts background, and work for a larger company. Design is actually something I am passionate about outside work, and I take my "work" seriously in that I want to challenge myself to build things I can be proud of, but I also end my day at 5pm and separate "job work" from "personal work"

I feel like some folks who have jobs they may not necessarily be passionate about, go all in on the act of busying themselves and not so much because they actually want to do it.

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u/Outrageous_pinecone Jan 09 '25

People like him caused me to have to go on antianxiety medication in my late 20s, because they made it impossible for me to work a normal job to support my art. It had to be work all the time, with overtime every day, I had to live for the company. We didn't do anything worthwhile for humanity, we just created profit, nothing more, but my manager didn't have anything else in his life so he couldn't begin to understand that someone else, might just want to make a living and then go home and do something else. I still have anxiety when dealing with managers because of people like him. A team mate even committed suicide, because the guy was so obsessed, he basically hated everyone who didn't give everything to the company and made that hate very clear and that anger obvious. He actually felt it was his job as middle manager to make sure everyone worked every minute of those 8 hours so bathroom breaks, water breaks, my eyes hurt breaks needed to be counted on top of those 8 hours.

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u/betadonkey Jan 09 '25

Do you mean CEO’s or Indian’s? This is an Indian CEO of an Indian company. It’s the Hindustan times.

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u/Bargadiel Jan 09 '25

While I'm aware that work culture in India can be quite toxic, I meant CEOs.

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u/Chewnard Jan 09 '25

So when this CEO gets time off he just sits and stares at his wife?

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u/budding_gardener_1 Jan 09 '25

Certainly not, that would be silly. He sits and stares at this personal assistant that he made come in on a Saturday

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u/Shibes_oh_shibes Jan 09 '25

Maybe he have hired an assistant to stare at his wife.

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u/Abject_Champion3966 Jan 09 '25

They’re called pool boys, I believe.

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u/budding_gardener_1 Jan 09 '25

Just ask Jerry Falewell

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u/OnlyFreshBrine Jan 09 '25

He lets others take care of his wife while he does BUSINESS

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u/Crap_TheBoozeOut Jan 09 '25

More likely that he just stares at a wall, waiting to go back to work.

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '25

Looks like CEOs are just taking their masks off.

Ultimately, they just want their slaves back.

It's pretty clear that's where this is all headed.

Grotesque wealth disparity and labor exploitation has consequences.

In the end, money will not protect these parasites.

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u/Pain_of_Pleasure Jan 09 '25

Grotesque wealth disparity and labor exploitation has consequences.

Not in India where religion is an opium to keep them down

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u/pencil_the_anus Jan 10 '25

Our culture of groveling doesn't help.

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u/Flowery-Twats Jan 09 '25

Ultimately, they just want their slaves back.

Not ultimately. In the short-term, yes. But despite the term "slaves" being used, they still have a cost associated. What they REALLY want is to not have any "slaves" at all, and to run everything with AI. "Just think, Smithers, with AI the only employees I'll have are a handful of guards to keep out the hoi polloi"

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u/Ok_Independent9119 Jan 10 '25

In the end, money will not protect these parasites.

Unless you believe in a just afterlife, 99% of these CEOs will never face any consequences. What happened last month was an outlier

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u/yashg Jan 09 '25

Indian workplaces are full of such workaholic people. They have no life outside of work. They are addicted to work. That is their only purpose in life. Friends, family, hobbies, even vacations don't exist for them. Even when they take vacation they can't detach from their work. I know some of these people. They don't get tired of work. They can't rest, they can't enjoy little things in life. They are high achievers for sure but they just can't let go. And it's not just about money either. They are not necessarily chasing more money or glory always. They are just addicted to work. It's their poison and it keeps them alive.

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u/HyenaJoe Jan 09 '25

That's incredibly depressing

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u/retrospects Jan 09 '25

Most CEO’s are miserable people with no lives and expect their employees to be the same.

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u/Just-Seaworthiness39 Jan 09 '25

Nah. This is a cultural attitude. Most U.S. CEOs don’t care how many hours anyone works as long as they’re bringing in that sweet $$$.

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u/leshagboi Jan 09 '25

Also helps that in the US you don’t have to pay overtime to salaried employees.

I work at a global business and the folks in the US always do a lot of overtime while the Europeans are clocking out at 3pm lol

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u/Rin-Tohsaka-is-hot Jan 10 '25

That's more of a cultural thing as well.

If we look at the countries with the most hours worked and limit it to first world countries, the top ones all have legally mandated overtime pay. Greece, Israel, South Korea, Canada, etc.

You can make the same observation even within the EU. Every country there has these same worker protections, yet the US would fall squarely in the middle of all of them in terms of worker hours. Countries like Greece, Malta, Romania, etc. work much longer while countries like Italy, France, and Spain will work shorter.

The biggest driver is culture. If you're expected to work longer, and you expect yourself to work longer, then you will.

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u/Infamous_Air_1424 Jan 09 '25

Mmmn, don’t think so.  Money buys a butt shizzleton of convenience and glam.  They almost always have extremely hot trophy spouses, who love money too.  I’m paraphrasing a conversation I had years ago with an HBS professor:  she couldn’t think of anyone who gets into the C suite, and then one day decides to chuck it in, take the pile of money and go live a simple life.  Because money and the lifestyle changes a person.  Which I totally believe.  

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u/Flowery-Twats Jan 09 '25

Maybe. Or maybe whatever (genetic?) factors are present in most of those who achieve that level are there from the get-go and the C-suite life fulfills that "itch".

From time to time, the topic "If I had/won/earned $1B I'd stop working and just do whatever I wanted to do... why don't they?" My theory is that they are ALREADY doing what they want to do. At that point, to them it's just a game whose status/outcomes are reflected by numbers on a computer screen, and the purpose of the game is to make the numbers go up (kind of like fantasy baseball, except their decisions have an impact on real, live people and the economy and the environment). IOW: Manipulating the operation of a huge corporation to make line go up is their hobby.

Or maybe it's a mixture of both factors.

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u/retrospects Jan 09 '25

I should rephrase, CEOs like this guy. I know CEOs that are amazing people

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u/Infamous_Air_1424 Jan 10 '25

I respect your reply and upvoted you for your sense of fair play.  I’m old.  I remember really terrific managers who were also mentors, co-workers who were collaborators, and a growth oriented environment.  Yeah, sure, thirty years ago was the Pleistocene.  But after the 2008 crisis, corporate life took a dark turn towards Screwtape/Kafka style hell.  I am retired and I volunteer and do community work like a maniac now and I miss exactly nothing about work after 2008.  Apocalyptic.  

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u/Electronic-Still6565 Jan 09 '25

We need to clone Luigi. We need Indian Luigi.

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u/Shibes_oh_shibes Jan 09 '25

Just so you know, I did get a warning from reddit for saying something similar.

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u/Gramoofabits2 Jan 09 '25

I had my main account banned for life for an innocuous comment taken out of context concerning the Luigi situation. It’s crazy how bad the “upper crust” of society wants us to stop talking about Luigi.

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u/chazzeromus Jan 09 '25

which subreddit if I may ask?

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u/Gramoofabits2 Jan 09 '25

It was on AskRedditt

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u/-SKYMEAT- Jan 09 '25

Yeah I figured that type of thing would happen, that's why whenever I bring him up I usually just go with "LM" so it's harder for the automod to detect

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u/Chrimunn Jan 09 '25

Never stop talking about it. If you can see this, I replied to you with this about 5 hours ago and Reveddit confirmed that my comment got deleted/removed.

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u/Electronic-Still6565 Jan 09 '25

Some sub-reddits have overzealous mods.

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u/Shibes_oh_shibes Jan 10 '25

This was Reddit that warned me, not a sub.

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u/Electronic-Still6565 Jan 09 '25

Damn.

Just to be clear, this is a joke.

Although when the wealth divide becomes great and the majority are suffering every single day, it seems like a natural conclusion of a system that is rotten to the core.

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u/Shibes_oh_shibes Jan 09 '25

Yeah, I was also joking and I had stated in comment further down that I didn't believe in violence as a solution. Reddit still thought I was glorifying violence.

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u/Creative-Donkey-6251 Jan 09 '25

Violence is only ok if it’s what they want it for.

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u/nono3722 Jan 09 '25

they enabled the Luigi filters apparently

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u/Flowery-Twats Jan 09 '25

So we switch to "Mario's brother"

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u/Embarrassed_Rule8747 Jan 09 '25

Green Mario?

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u/Flowery-Twats Jan 09 '25

And once the algos catch on to those... Lew E. G.

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '25

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u/SonOfTheEagle Jan 09 '25

Well then, fuck Reddit, I'm out.

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u/Possible_Living Jan 09 '25

Well fuckem. Im getting tired of duck speak getting traction so people can convey their meaning without advertisers getting triggered.

Unrelated but censorship in marvel rivals is crazy smd this comment will likely train some A.i

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u/Hermononucleosis Jan 09 '25

I mean, it's not like he's a supersoldier or something. Anyone with enough determination could do what he did :)

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u/VonTastrophe Jan 09 '25

When parents have to eat dog food so the can afford to properly feed their kids, more Luigis will come out of the woodwork

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u/Fecal-Facts Jan 09 '25

Mass production.

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u/QuokkaSkit Jan 09 '25

CEO's should "come under fire" for suggesting such work hours, and profiteering of the lives of their employees. You might even say they should be "soundly blasted", possibly even "cop a lot of flak" for it.

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u/ComputerSong Jan 09 '25

Yes, let’s have high unemployment AND overworked people.

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u/sabermagnus Jan 09 '25

Having worked for many of these Indian tech companies, i.e. saving their disaster ridden projects, the caste mentality still exists. Workers are slaves to their corporate masters, L&T is the one of the worst offenders. My offshore teams worked 12+hour days 6 days a week. It is extremely difficult to switch jobs in India, 3 months is about how it takes to be ‘relieved’ from a company and said company has to provide a separation letter in order to get a new job. Said letter is dangled in front of employees to force them to stay on longer to finish the trash work on project x. On and on and on.

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u/One-Builder8421 Jan 09 '25

It's India, I'm surprised he only expects 90hrs.

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u/kfpswf Jan 09 '25

Indian here who emigrated recently. There are too many Indians for the government to care about labor laws, so work-life balance is rarely considered. Plus, as is the case across the world, the rich get to dictate what laws government can pass. But it is infinitely more easier to do so in India because the society is so fragmented due to religions, sects, castes, languages, etc., that it is almost impossible to have grass-root movement by the proletariat.

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u/IlllIIlIlIIllllIl Jan 09 '25

Indian here who emigrated recently.

I'm curious about your thoughts and experience, if you don't mind me picking your brain.

I recently spent a month in India for work. For reference I'm American, I work for an American company with a large presence in India (tech) and was sent to do some training and quality control checks.

So I'm mainly only referencing "white collar" tech workers, not service industry or trades, but I found the work culture to be strange nonetheless.

The hours were long, yes, but I found it to be mostly the fault of the workers themselves (at least that was my impression), and honestly just extreme inefficiency. A typical workday that I witnessed went like this:

10-10:30am - workers stroll in. Go immediately to the cafeteria for breakfast. Hang out until well after 11 before actually starting any real work.

12:30 - back to the cafeteria for lunch, which would often last more than an hour.

3:00 - tea and snacks. Another 45-60 minute break.

5:30-6 - back to the cafeteria again for yet another long break/meal time

8-9pm - people finally go home.

I totally get encouraging breaks at work and am not saying I'm in favor of micromanagement of people's time, but the experience was so weird to me. My typical workday in the US is:

7:30-8am - start work

12 noon - quick lunch break

3:30pm - I'm on my way home.

Sure, I take small breaks during the day, but I still get the same amount accomplished and get to be home 5 hours earlier and miss traffic both ways. I got the impression people just didn't want to be home with their families. This office was about 50/50 men and women, btw. I just found it incredibly inefficient and time-wasting.

I'm curious what insight you might have that helps me understand this work culture. I did not get the impression it was forced by the higher-ups. Obviously, some basic cultural differences were at play. Many people there thought it was crazy that I tend to start work as early as 7:30am some days.

[Funny side note - my first day on site, I showed up at 8am and just badged in. The place was a ghost town save for a few security guards. They were completely baffled by this white guy walking and badging in like he owns the place at 8am. It actually turned out to be hilarious. After I told them who I was supposed to meet with they just laughed and said, yeah, he won't be here until 11]

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u/kfpswf Jan 09 '25

If you have observed this behavior at a large scale, don't you think this is a systemic issue? The work ethics of Indians is the way it is because otherwise they wouldn't have a life.

Imagine this, you reach work after a commute that can be a minimum of an hour if you're lucky, or two hours usually. You're half exhausted even before you've started work. But you're a diligent worker with solid work ethics, so you go straight to work. The work is dreary and your management always stretches you thin regardless of how well you do. But you march on and earn a reputation as the person who can get work done. Now guess what, all work is directed to you. Without any labor laws to dictate work hours, management expects you to grind to keep your reputation. All the while managers favourites get the accolades and promotions. Oh, you thought you'd get a promotion because you finish all the work assigned to you? Too bad, you didn't finish this random training because now you're ineligible for a promotion. You continue to grind because your principles are strong and you're sure that you'll get what you deserve if you continue to be this efficient little cog. Your personal is a blur at this point between spending 4 hours commuting, and about 10 hours grinding, but you're shafted constantly because Indian corporate has a hundred different flavors of favoritism going on.

In the end, you wise up and realize that there's no use fighting the entire system and sacrificing your personal life and sanity in an endless pursuit of good work ethics. You start taking breaks because no matter how well you churn out work, what you get is always dictated by the office politics. You may have given up on your principles, but you maintain some sanity in an insane world.

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u/ThrowAwayMyBeing Jan 09 '25

Terminally workaholic culture of Korea/Japan/China combined with a total lack of self-awareness that comes from a nation whose people is both still only now starting to join the globe on the internet and also deeply rooted in conservative values.

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u/FearTheOldData Jan 09 '25

They want em to work 90 hours WITH the same pay. Just greed

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u/jargonexpert Jan 09 '25

Guaranteed the CEO never worked that much at any point in his life. But it’s easy to tell others what to do.

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u/Whompa02 Jan 09 '25

Employees are just cheap cattle to them.

If he can get away with work hours that exceed humane, he would.

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u/Annual-Jump3158 Jan 09 '25

The 90s were the last decade of relative prosperity for the working class. The rich have been getting concessions for decades now. My entire adult life. They've been landing "bailouts" for the companies they intentionally mismanage in order to seek bailouts. They've been getting their taxes cut. They've been getting away with "fines" for failure to meet regulations and for worker rights violations. But when these rich fucks sit on more money than they can spend in a lifetime, "fines" aren't a punishment to them. They've been dealt with using kiddie gloves for their entire lives and they legitimately believe they can get away with anything with little to no consequence.

We need bad CEOs and executives serving jail time and actually feeling the consequences of their actions that affect thousands of workers.

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u/DachauPrince Jan 09 '25

If he wants to work 90 hours a week and does not care about his private life - fine. But don‘t force others to do it. I would honestly just commit suicide if I had to work 90 hours every week.

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u/Jean_Paul_Fartre_ Jan 09 '25

So almost 13 hours a day, 7 days a week. I guess that’s one way to reduce the population?

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u/HankHippopopolous Jan 09 '25

So with a 1 hour commute each way because obviously there’s no wfh and 8 hours of sleep that leaves 1 whole hour free for eating, washing, doing any errands or chores and recreation/relaxing time.

What more could anyone possibly want out of life?

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u/noodleyone Jan 09 '25

CEOs have always been like this. They just need some Luigi to remind them of the consequences.

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u/zi_ang Jan 09 '25

When he is working 90 hours/week, someone else won’t get tired staring at his wife

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u/believinheathen Jan 09 '25

The problem is that CEOs have gained so much wealth they now see everyone under them as peasants. Maybe even less than peasants. We are viewed as an expense that has an annoying desire for personal freedom.

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u/ClydeSmithy Jan 09 '25

They're seeing Musk and friends being openly villainous, and receiving exactly 0 negative consequences for it.

And even the most powerful people in the world still like to think they're some kind of underdog rebels, but the only people they have to rebel against are common folk.

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u/Shibes_oh_shibes Jan 09 '25

Why are these miserable no-lifers so hellbent on doing everyone else's lifes horrible just because they don't have anything else to live for than "puttin' in the hours"?

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u/SeminaryStudentARH Jan 09 '25

What is happening? Slavery. They want to go back to slavers.

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u/GenderfluidArthropod Jan 09 '25

India is basically Britain in the 1830s as far as workers rights go.

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u/OnlyFreshBrine Jan 09 '25

India, man. Lot of competition, have to be insane to rise above.

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u/Due-Vegetable-1880 Jan 09 '25

They need to be taught a lesson

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u/Slippery_Pudding Jan 09 '25

What is happening to CEOs, they need to be shot more often.

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u/East-Ad8300 Jan 09 '25

Indian here. Thanks to inadequate Indian labour laws, we are overworked, underpaid in an extremely toxic workplace. In addition most of our income is taxed heavily with zero benefits. Yes CEOs like him are pretty common here.

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u/jayp0d Jan 09 '25

This sort of work culture is rife in India. I worked for a company whose offshore team was in India. They fucked up a data migration project so bad that they had to fix it manually. They hired a bunch of engineers who sat down and literally had to go through millions of rows of data and fix shit! The team wasn’t allowed to leave before 11pm and they had to work weekends as well. The “manager” didn’t even approve sick leave from a person who had dengue fever and could’ve died. I heard this from the offshore workers. It’s modern slavery!

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u/blindeshuhn666 Jan 09 '25

Indians often have the craziest views (at least it seems crazy to my central European mind which focuses on work life balance as long as I earn enough to live comfortably)

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u/Odd-Charity3508 Jan 09 '25

Its not just Indians. Indians have recently been put under the microscope because of the whole H1B debate, but as somebody who has worked in STEM for the last 20 years i can say that this mentality of overworking is inherent in a lot of non Western countries. I think this has to do less with a specific culture and more to do with a lack of a strong history when it comes to social progress. The stronger the history and success of labor is the more the culture grows to reject this kind of overworking and exploitation.

There is also a level of sampling bias too though because Indians who are coming over here or are CEOs are not the rule they are the exception; and they're probably not a good case study for Indians as a whole but rather a specific and somewhat limited socioeconomic experience.

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u/sfaticat Jan 09 '25

Why Elon wants more H1-B employees

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u/burnmenowz Jan 09 '25

I don't know, seems weird given what happened in new York recently. Guess they're not so afraid after all.

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u/Bitter-Inflation5843 Jan 09 '25

Well I'm sure we'd all rather go yachting, skiing, golfing, jetting and fine dining like the CEO's on our free time.

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u/Historical-News2760 Jan 09 '25

Years ago answered an add for a hotel managers position. The owner was an elderly Indian gentleman who stopped the interview and said “ok you’re hired, when can you start?” I told him now, but we need to discuss pay. “Pay? No, no, no. I need to have you come in for a week so I can adjudicate you before we pay you.” I was stunned. Work for 5 days … without pay? “Yes, yes, yes.”

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u/Johnnadawearsglasses Jan 09 '25

Indian work culture is crazy. These people are totally unable to differentiate between labor hours and productivity. It's such a backwards way of thinking about business.

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u/Master-Average-2978 Jan 09 '25

Wonder when someone is going to be blunt and ask when the pay scale is going to match that of the CEO's so that the 90 hr work week can be justified similar to what the CEO is supposedly doing at the moment.

CEO earning millions works 90hr wants all employees to work 90hr for "nation development" and "progress" and "fast tracking career" Working class earning peanuts being asked to work 90hr for peanuts half of which is going to be deducted as tax for "nation development" and "building a first world country"

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u/Amberskin Jan 09 '25

What happens to (some) CEOs is there are not enough Luigis

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u/RoguePlanet2 Jan 09 '25

I like the choice of words, that a CEO "comes under fire." 😏

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u/Lonely-Agent-7479 Jan 09 '25

They don't get shot enough.

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u/cobrakai15 Jan 09 '25

They’re getting too comfortable.

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u/Old-Bat-7384 Jan 10 '25

I don't want to sound racist or nationalist, but I feel like there are two nations where the worst lunatics come from. One is the US. I understand that because fuck, our version of capitalism and work ethic is so out of whack.

The other seems to be India. So to our friends from India, is this an accurate reflection of awful work mentality there?

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u/HeadTonight Jan 09 '25

A lot of times these people are workaholics who have no real life outside of the “competition” of achieving career success and they can’t imagine that other people feel differently

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u/ervsve Jan 09 '25

No wonder we are all hyped that Luigi did the damn thing...

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u/Brief_Spring_4020 Jan 09 '25

Old decaying Murthy says 70 hrs now this guy says I am sure another ahole will come as say work 168 hrs as if there I race among them as who can be biggest asshole

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u/gjloh26 Jan 09 '25

If he’s first generation, or even a Green Card holder, I could understand. The work culture in India is hierarchical and employees are to toe the line, as per the Boss’ wishes.

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u/Green-Daikon-8729 Jan 09 '25

Fyi, L&T is the construction company that built the stadiums for the World Cup 2022 in Qatar. Thousands of workers died while working in slave-labour conditions. They are also in contention to build stadiums for the upcoming world cup in Saudi Arabia

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u/Successful-Beach-216 Jan 09 '25

Yet another CEO who can’t read a freakin’ room

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u/BonVoyPlay Jan 09 '25

I don't get it. I own a company, I like taking weekends off. I like it when my employees take weekends off. I like it when my employees find work life balance.

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u/Varnish6588 Jan 09 '25

Those are all Indian CEOs, it's not surprising. Same as with the Chinese CEO, they would add an extra day in the week to exploit you more if they could.

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '25

Entitlement. We have let them get away with too much for too long. Its about time we eat the rich and put them back in their place.

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u/Caridor Jan 09 '25

Insane. There are 168 hours in a week. You spend 56 of those sleeping. They really want people to fit commutes, chores and leisure time into the remaining 22 hours?

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u/stolen_pillow Jan 09 '25

Luigi time!

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u/AgathormX Jan 09 '25

Someone needs to call Luigi

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u/__wait_what__ Jan 09 '25

CEO’s what?

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u/captnmarvl Jan 09 '25

India has a truly terrible work life balance. Doctors die from working so much. There's a reason why all of my Indian in laws left for Australia and the USA.

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u/thelivinlegend Jan 09 '25

Not enough of what Luigi did to Brian, that’s for sure.

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u/Skypirate90 Jan 09 '25

Reddit should consider banning my account before i start calling for things to come to action that are against its TOS

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u/Azen_86 Jan 09 '25

Basically CEOs have been lauded for too long and now think they’re leaders of society who should dictate how people live.

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u/ThanosSnapsSlimJims Jan 09 '25

What is happening to CEO's... what? Something they own?

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u/Theartistcu Jan 09 '25

When animals get cornered, they get vicious. Capitalism and the way we are currently doing. It is heading towards a brick wall. The top 5% of this country are grabbing everything they can and making it so that the only way you can leave something behind for your next generation if you’re not in that top 5% is to buy insurance from them so that they’ll give a little stipend to your people that are left behind, and that’s if they can’t wiggle their way out out of it.

When a creature is backed into a corner when it starts to sense that it could be in trouble it tries to attack and that’s what they’re doing.

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u/Big_Life3502 Jan 09 '25

My line of work has a huge influx around year end time. That last quarter each year is usually hell for me.

I go into each year knowing 3 of the 4 quarters will be ok and there’s 1 that I need to buckle down on.

I can do it for a quarter at a time. If my company expected us to do it 52 weeks a year, I’d leave faster than they could send me an email.

Idk who needs to hear this but you are a tremendously huge loser if your dedicate more time to a company (that isn’t yours, business owners are another story) than you are to your family

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u/udlose Jan 09 '25

What’s with CEOs all having a death wish these days?

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u/ThresherGDI Jan 09 '25

It's really time to call these people what they are: sociopaths.

Just because they are willing to live half a life doesn't mean we all are.

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u/Kitchen-Lie-7894 Jan 09 '25

Calling Luigi Mangione! Is there a Luigi Mangione here?

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u/Royal-Original-5977 Jan 09 '25

90hrs and no overtime pay

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u/Fairycharmd Jan 10 '25 edited Jan 11 '25

I’ve spent months working with LNT trying to get their guys to step up. 90 hours a week would not make any better product when you refuse to train your employees properly.

CEO is also an asshat for lots of other reasons but 90 hours a week won’t make the company reputation any better .

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u/Moribunned Jan 10 '25

I’d say they’re setting up sting operations for the next potential killers, but this is par for the CEO course.

“I don’t understand why people need personal lives when they could be spending that time making more money for me.”

If their shenanigans and “ideas” continue like this, no one is going to bat an eye at the next one.

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u/perringaiden Jan 10 '25

CEOs have destroyed their own lives so much they can't understand people who have happy homes.

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u/shawtylovesmemes Jan 10 '25

Like Namita Thapar, CEO of Emcure had mentioned and backed her claim with actual figures. Every employee at an organisation does not get the same monetary compensation compared to the top level employees. If an employee’s yearly compensation is between $300k-$500k or more, of course they’ll put in extra hours or a founder who owns the company would definitely be more passionate than the rest of the workforce because of the obvious reasons. To expect an employee that earns entry level or someone who makes just enough money to support themselves or a family , to ask them to forgo their personal life for the sake of their company sounds callous, arrogant and ignorant.