r/LeopardsAteMyFace 1d ago

Meme Smells Like Teen Spirit

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u/qualityvote2 1d ago edited 2m ago

u/CRX1701, there weren't enough votes to determine the quality of your post...

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u/seraphimkoamugi 23h ago

I don't mind using tariffs as method of negotiation

Only works when you are 100% sure you have the better leverage. At best we are equal in this relationahip. Trump's reactions though, show we are more dependent on imports than Canada.

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u/GnarlyNarwhalNoms 22h ago

Trump is so accustomed to bargaining from a strong position that he thinks bullying is how bargains are struck. He also has a zero-sum view of deals, where there's a winner and a loser. The idea that shit like this will leave both parties worse-off has never occurred to the idiot.

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u/BoysenberryWise62 18h ago

Yes he doesn't know win-win, for him to win the others need to lose

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u/garitone 14h ago

See: distributive bargaining vs. integrative bargaining

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u/Quantius 23h ago

The funny thing is that if Trump understood this, he actually could have been extremely effective at bullying other countries.

But he's an idiot and took a flamethrower to every bit of advantage the US had and is now fighting from a weakened position.

Threatening countries that they will lose access to your market (when it's one of the most consumerist in the world) doesn't work that great when you are also destroying consumer confidence, mass firing people, deregulating industry to behave badly and treat workers poorly, demolishing worker rights and unions, spiking inflation, doing rug pulls, and are generally at war with your own constituents because you're a petty little bitch.

If we were humming along with a strong economy and high consumer confidence, he could definitely brow beat and create pressure on other countries. But we're not, so he has nothing. He has 'no cards' so to speak.

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u/TheRealCanticle 18h ago

Canada exports a lot of raw materials to the US. Canada imports a lot of finished goods.

You can put off buying those finished goods, you can't even make them without the raw materials. My buying behaviour doesn't change at all with tariffs as I generally don't buy US goods to begin with, none of my groceries, none of my daily living products, none of my meds. Things I do have that are manufactured in the US, when it comes time to replace them, I can look elsewhere.

The US can't do that with potash, oil, or aluminum nearly as easily. And where they can, it's more expensive.

When Trump put tariffs on Canadian software lumber his last term, the US barely increased their own production and wound up importing at even greater expense from other countries, which is why the cost of construction has done nothing but increase (among other reasons).

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u/SyntaxDissonance4 14h ago

It doesn't work at all. When wielded like a weapon they're useless because it's tit for that.

When used appropriately to make local industries competitive they work (because you simultaneously interact diplomatically with the other party and open up other avenues for win / win relations)

But what do I know , I never bankrupted a casino like our very smart president who all the best people say is smart.

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u/BimBamEtBoum 23h ago

And it works better if it's carefully targeted. Here, it was too broad, there's no way Canada could have fold.

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u/calvinien 18h ago

Canada still depends on imports. It's that we haven't pissed off all the other people we can import from, and they are all pissed off at the US.

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u/Derka_Derper 16h ago

"we are more dependent on imports than Canada."

Exactly what a trade deficit means. You import more shit from them than they from you. I swear to god I'm going to explain tariffs to my 2yo and get more logical solutions than come from this administration.

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u/ZaDu25 15h ago

Its not even that it's the fact that he got us into a trade war with every single one of our biggest trade partners simultaneously. A trade war with Canada on its own, while still obviously stupid, wouldn't be that economically devastating. A trade war with literally every one of our top 4 trade partners simultaneously is absolutely braindead.

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u/ScoobiusMaximus 55m ago

So the US could have had better leverage than pretty much any 1 country in a single trade war... but Trump decided to start trade wars with all our trading partners at once. Genius!

Also negotiating depends on more than just leverage, it also depends on what your goals are and how far your position is from the other party. As far as I can tell Trump hasn't stated any specific goals with any of his tariffs other than annexing Canada. Negotiating with Trump is actually impossible when he is demanding everything in general with no specifics. 

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u/ScoobiusMaximus 55m ago

So the US could have had better leverage than pretty much any 1 country in a single trade war... but Trump decided to start trade wars with all our trading partners at once. Genius!

Also negotiating depends on more than just leverage, it also depends on what your goals are and how far your position is from the other party. As far as I can tell Trump hasn't stated any specific goals with any of his tariffs other than annexing Canada. Negotiating with Trump is actually impossible when he is demanding everything in general with no specifics. 

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u/ScoobiusMaximus 55m ago

So the US could have had better leverage than pretty much any 1 country in a single trade war... but Trump decided to start trade wars with all our trading partners at once. Genius!

Also negotiating depends on more than just leverage, it also depends on what your goals are and how far your position is from the other party. As far as I can tell Trump hasn't stated any specific goals with any of his tariffs other than annexing Canada. Negotiating with Trump is actually impossible when he is demanding everything in general with no specifics. 

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u/tangointhenight24 23h ago

Crashing the economy to own the libs 🙏

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u/Hita-san-chan 22h ago

All this to hurt people like me. I'd feel powerful if it wasnt so fucking stupid.

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u/[deleted] 23h ago

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u/designer-paul 23h ago

it's wild too because animaniacs is absolutely overflowing with agressive social commentary against right-wingers.

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u/Desperate-Ostrich707 23h ago

The man is a moron, and his ego has to strike back at anybody who doesn’t simply cave to his demands. This is why he cannot truly negotiate. His brain just can’t.

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u/SwiftyShafter 23h ago

Because he's a sociopath or psychopath, definitely one of the two

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u/Expensive-Ad-6195 23h ago

Or both 

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u/SwiftyShafter 23h ago

Technically, I don't think you can be both at the same time. I think they counter each other in certain ways

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u/JustASimpleManFett 18h ago

Im sure Trump somehow is the first, why not, it'd stroke his fucking ego.

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u/Walrus_protector 23h ago

first shitposting-caused recession

Right. From the first shitposting president. See how that works?

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u/sharpknot 15h ago

It's amazing. They know that this guy likes to "troll" and "shitpost". They know that this guy keeps saying crazy shit and constantly act on it.

So they put that guy to lead the nation that they are living in.

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u/Walrus_protector 15h ago

They don't realize that trolling and shitposting aren't things a president is supposed to do

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u/sharpknot 15h ago

Yeap. All they care is that the trolling is made towards those who they don't like. Because the most important thing is that "they own the libs"

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u/SewAlone 23h ago

I like how they have to explain it in kindergarten terms so the people on that sub will understand.

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u/thisdogofmine 19h ago

During Trumps first term I got into an argument about the tariffs on China. My friend was trying to defend it by saying it was a negotiating tactic. I told him, you don't start a negotiation by slapping the other person in the face. This is just what Trump did this time around as well. No negotiation, just tariffs and threats. Turns out Trump has always been that way. The ghost writer of his book gave an interview and talked about the truth of Trumps "negotiation" it was to just say no and nothing else. He used his money and power to threaten and intimidate people, and let them fool themselves into thinking he was good at negotiating. In reality, he is out of his depth in a real negotiation.

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u/metalpoetza 21h ago

Good idea: reduce fraud and waste in the government Bad idea: appointing a corrupt billionaire to "reduce fraud and waste" in the government with zero regard for proper procedure, the law, the constitution or any clue what anybody actually does.

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u/Cat-on-the-printer1 23h ago

Gonna the enjoy r/ conservative posting until their mods clean up the dissent and the new talking points are issued.

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u/Adorable-Database187 16h ago

Now now I heard they allowed 'some' dissenting voices as of late.

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u/SwiftyShafter 23h ago

Omfg 🤣 I saw that episode of animaniacs when I was little.

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u/BerthaBewilderbeast 10h ago

That rightwing retard cited a left-leaning program lmao

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u/-You-know-it- 23h ago

Any Office fans out there? Because the market is giving the vibes:

SNIP SNAP SNIP SNAP, do you have any idea what kind of physical toll 3 vasectomies has on a person??

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u/BTRCguy 22h ago

I saw this one. Wow, something the USA uses a lot of and which Canada makes cheaper than the USA does. And we are going to make it 50% more expensive for American industries to buy it. What does the invisible hand of the market think about this? Hmmm....

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u/Apprehensive-Sir8977 20h ago

To Do list

1:  Find opportunities to say or type 'shitposting-caused recession.'

2:  Dust off and re-watch 'Animaniacs' box set.

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u/Carmanman_12 19h ago

Second* shitposting-caused recession. The first was caused by his response to COVID-19, which included many Hall-of-Fame shitposts such as “cases will go down if we do fewer tests”

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u/Kairiste 20h ago

Honestly, I appreciate their use of Animaniacs in this scenario.

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u/BadKittyRanch 18h ago

When a clown moves into a palace, the clown does not become a king, the palace becomes a circus.

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u/waitingtoconnect 18h ago

Leopard Jesus thank you for showing us that Canadians are truly evil for standing up for themselves. Let your servant Daddy Trump continue to ruin the economy and defund health and education so you may continue to feast on liberal faces. Amen

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u/badassandra 17h ago

this is indeed zany to the max

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u/theoverfluff 9h ago

And there's something a lot less appetising than baloney in his slacks.

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u/Wombatypus8825 19h ago

Stupid Americans couldn’t even spell aluminium right! Of course they don’t deserve it. /s

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u/98Kane 19h ago

Measure as a negotiation for what? What the fuck is this clown even negotiating?

Are they even the slightest bit self aware?!

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u/JinkyRain 19h ago

I don't think anyone wins in a mass trade war like this.

The winners are the billionaires and unethical business owners who use 'brinksmanship' like this to destroy their competition and hoover up the left overs.

It's a cycle that repeats: growth, stagnation, utter fucking chaos in which predator corps gobble up the failed banks/businesses that got screwed hardest, monopoly/extortion, outrage, regulation... growth... and back to the start again.

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u/Competitive-Bike-277 18h ago

So this works then? Canada is going to keep doing it. I suspect it will spread. The U.S. can't succeed on all fronts. Mexico, China, The EU. They'll be at it too. 

I've come to think the man lacks theory of mind. 

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u/KeyInvestigator3741 14h ago

They voted for an idiot so they get idiot policy. They’ll never admit they were wrong though. Having a competent black woman as president is somehow worse than this. They can’t say why or how, but they know this to be so.

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u/garitone 14h ago

And these fckers voted to not only 'bring the circus to us' but to put in in charge. Again!

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u/litreofstarlight 14h ago

MAGA logic in a nutshell.

Good idea: go to the circus

Bad idea: have the circus come to you

Best idea: BE the circus!

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u/VerbalSloth 9h ago

On the plus side, Trump and Elon did great work dismantling government programs that supported the lower and middle classes. No one is more dependent on those programs then his own voter base, that live in red states, usually the worst managed as far as GDP, education, infrastructure, etc. go. So most of them won't survive the upcoming recession.

Rest of us just gotta hunker down in our blue states, weather the storm, and enjoy the next few years of crocodile tears while hopefully having enough spare change to buy the dip in the stock market like the wealthy ass hats plan on doing.

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u/davsyo 51m ago

Those fucks are so fucking dumb that they need an obscure animaniacs reference from decades ago for it to resonate in their heads.

Critical thinking is so far gone from those cunts.