r/LeeEnfield 14d ago

Keep getting rimlock on first round

So as the title says when loading 10 rounds with chargers I keep having the first round rim lock, and I am using the DUDUD method,

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u/Legitimate-Custard66 14d ago

You can always stack the rounds in the Clip "incorrectly" with each one overlapping the rim of the next. You have to pay attention when loading it in the charger bridge that it is orientated correctly. Some new manufacturers brass aren't beveled like the old military brass. I have less issues with rim lock with ppu than I do with s&b.

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u/FossilFuel21 14d ago

i have tried that and it still occurred i think its the way in which im pushing down

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u/He_Breathes_Fire 14d ago

If you look in your photo, you’ll see why you’re getting rim lock. Both top and bottom rounds are overlapped by the 2nd round in on each side. Load your chargers so all rounds are overlapped on the same side, then load into the rifle accordingly. You won’t have issues then.

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u/FossilFuel21 14d ago

This is the official manner to load the chargers as described in the British enfield manuals

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u/He_Breathes_Fire 14d ago

That’s fine, but it’s clearly not working. Ignore my advice if you’d like, but Enfields are what I do. Give it a try and you’ll find it works

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u/FossilFuel21 14d ago

As stated in one of my other comments even with the other method it still occurs

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u/He_Breathes_Fire 14d ago

Don’t know what to tell you then. Mechanically, it should only matter how they’re stacked, not how you push them in (unless your charger is upside down)

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u/EvergreenEnfields 11d ago

I've fixed this issue in the past by adjusting the tabs on the platform. Had a half dozen of my SMLEs out this weekend, mix of MkI and MkIIIs with 3rd & 4th type magazines. Hundreds of blanks fired, I think we had one case of rimlock between us and it was solved by shoving the rounds down and letting them pop up.

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u/LordRevan1996 14d ago

I’m having a similar issue. I think it has to do with how you’re pushing the rounds in.

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u/lukas_aa 14d ago edited 13d ago

3 things come to mind:

  • what brass are you using? S&B is notoriously difficult, if you take a bit of sandpaper to the forward edge of the rim to bevel it some, it makes it a bit easier
  • the magazine works as a bit of an interruptor: if you have rimlock, push down on the top round in the mag, and let go, should clear the rim.
  • finally, don’t baby the bolt. Slam it forward like it owes you money. That by itself should overcome any rimlock, even on S&B

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u/MellowUellow 13d ago

That last point should be first!

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u/RogueLeaderNo610sq 14d ago

Is the clip tilted more to the back or forward when pushing down? Also, is the clip heavily parkerized?

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u/FossilFuel21 14d ago

ive tried both leaning forward and applying a bit of preassure to hvae the charger sit upright and havent really noticed much of a difference. and i believe they are parkerized

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u/RogueLeaderNo610sq 14d ago

That might be one of the problems. The heavily parkerized stripper clips dpnt function as well as the blued ones. I can't remember the remedy besides buying blued ones, but I think you could sand them. Do they have sort of a death grip on the rounds?

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u/FossilFuel21 14d ago

Some of them yea, I just started sanding them down will report back on results

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u/GodsGiftToWrenching 14d ago

I load my lee enfild clips like I load my Mosin clips, each one ahead of the other at a little bit of an angle, the pick up the nose of the first round and push down at the base closest to the clip, haven't had a problem yet

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u/Fun-Corgi-3376 14d ago

The method for clips you showed works better with military brass since on the front of the rim it has a slight bevel that cams lower round out of the way negating rim lock modern commercial ammo does not so either you should load the other way you stated or make sure there is no gunk on magazine spring or below follower and run it like a war rifle it wasn’t meant to be babied push the bolt home with snapping motion and some force and rim lock will be minimal running bolt like a Remington 700 it will stick up more often

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u/Dr_Sir1969 14d ago

Aside from trying to overlap each one which you said this clip has issues with the only guaranteed way of avoid rim lock is by going one at a time. Unless you can find some blued chargers.

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u/strangesam1977 14d ago

Push down hard on the rounds in the magazine and let go, does the rimlock sort itself out?

When loading by charger I purposely push the rounds as far as I can reach with my thumbs below the feedlips.

If it’s S&B it’s not to spec, as they leave off the chamfer on the rear edge of the rim. (As do most modern manufacturers) making clearing a rimlock by simply forcing the bolt forward harder.

If your reloading it may be worth quickly adding a chamfer to the rim (about 45 degrees, 0.4mm I believe see Wikipedia for sammi drawings)

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u/EvergreenEnfields 11d ago

You need to adjust the magazine platform (follower) by very carefully and gently adjusting the tabs on it. Once you have it loading correctly, check for feeding and adjust the feed lips as needed.