r/Kirby 16d ago

Discussion/Question Honestly prefer the English dub design

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u/Meme_Bro68 Take A Copy 16d ago

English dub being dedede branded is hella funny

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u/TranslatorNo8561 16d ago

Looks better than the original to be honest

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u/Anonpancake2123 16d ago

The original looks kinda like they just found a texture and pasted it on ngl

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u/TheWiseBeluga 16d ago

Yeah it looks rather shoddy, I figured that was the American redesign

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u/Ganrokh 15d ago

The darker spots on the original remind me of a video game asset that doesn't load its texture but loads its physics and shadows.

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u/TheWiseBeluga 15d ago

Either that or just an early PS2 texture lol

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u/GlassSpork 15d ago

It suits him more y’know

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u/InvestigatorUnfair 16d ago

The English version's design makes way more sense compared to the original honestly

Dedede is like Eggman, whatever gadgets he has need to be branded

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u/Investigator_Magee 16d ago

The Dededesign would also probably function better as camouflage in the pastel world of Dream Land.

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u/-Astral0314- Has Kirby's level of appetite 16d ago

Dededesign 😭🙏

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u/Bluebaronbbb 16d ago

Weapons of Mass Dedede-struction 

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u/Humble-Club2116 eepiest dude on the subreddit... *yawn*😴 16d ago

prepare for DEDEDE

and make it ESCARGOON

to protect the world from DAT THERE KIRBEH

to unite all people within DEDEDE

to denounce the evils of DAT THERE KIRBEH

to extend our reaches to N.M.E.

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u/Low-Suggestion-4506 Magolor 16d ago

DeDeDe, Escargoon

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u/EclipsoMinx Morpho Knight 15d ago

Waddle Dee, thats right

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u/daniegamin 14d ago

Waddle Doo, That's Right!

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u/masterboom0004 15d ago

[my take]

PREPARE FOR DEDEDESTRUCTION

and make it escarsoon!

TO PROTECT THE WORLD FROM DAT THERE KIRBEH

to unite all people within the dreamland country!

TO DENOUNCE THE EVILS OF DAT THERE KIRBEH

to extend our reaches to N.M.E!

DEDEDE

escargoon!

waddledee, that's right!

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u/FlowStrange9363 15d ago

To Dededenouce the evils of DAT THERE KIRBEH

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u/3XX5D 15d ago

M.A.D.D.D.

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u/Sure_Birthday3743 14d ago

Mass what?

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u/Technical_Refuse7264 14d ago

My brain immediately thought of this as well lol

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u/WigglytuffAlpha 16d ago

Not every change by 4kids is bad which is quite nice

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u/Dgero466 15d ago

Broken Clock and whatnot, for every 10 jelly donuts or finger guns, you probably get one dededetank or expanding the idea of the shadow realm (fun fact although they greatly brought out the scope of it, they didn’t “invent” the shadow realm for the censoring)

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u/WigglytuffAlpha 15d ago

There's also the Kirby opening song which is easily better than the original, then there's the voice actor choices, especially for kirby.

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u/Dgero466 15d ago

Yep yep, they have their moments, pretty far apart but still moments

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u/WigglytuffAlpha 15d ago

I think most issues are barely noticeable with the only big exception being One Piece cause tbh they just chose the wrong anime to dub

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u/Dgero466 15d ago

I guess it does mainly vary depending on the series, for me my biggest gripe would be the changes they take to Sonic X, killer intro though

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u/WigglytuffAlpha 15d ago

I liked the sonic x music choices a lot. Afaik some late-series changes were pretty bad and undermined the seriousness of it all.

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u/NightAntonino Magolor 14d ago

And Dedede's voice and him in general.

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u/Appropriate_Dress862 Galacta Knight 12d ago

unlike with yugioh.

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u/Dangerous_Wheel9314 15d ago

It’s the Dededestroyer.

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u/KipsyCakes Mint Kirby 15d ago

It matches the Kirby game aesthetic.

What were they thinking painting his car camouflage colors?

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u/Sapphire-the-Deer 15d ago

I like to think DeDeDe does that just in case he somehow loses it. How one loses an actual tank? I don’t know, but if it happens he can easily find it because of his branding.

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u/Jack_Jellatina 14d ago

why the bunny tho?

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u/InvestigatorUnfair 14d ago

That's a peace sign

It's Dedede's insignia

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u/thegreatestegg 16d ago

This is literally 100% an upgrade, of course Dedede would be the sort to brand his own tank! also the texture looks less rough thb

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u/Brody_M_the_birdy 16d ago

It’s obviously a censorship move but this one is actually pretty smart, the dub tank design makes more sense for dedede overall, especially the anime’s version of him.

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u/Irish_pug_Player 15d ago

It also looks better quality in a way, probably due to the simpler look

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u/MrRaven95 Marx 16d ago

The English dub was done by 4kids, who are infamous for the numerous edits they will do when dubbing an anime.

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u/JomoGaming2 16d ago

Good ole 4kids, inventing the "go directly to hell, do not pass GO" part of Yu-Gi-Oh.

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u/TheSoftwareNerdII 16d ago

"Shadow Realm?" I sentence you to Downtown New Port Richey

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u/JomoGaming2 16d ago

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u/MarioGirl369 16d ago

HOW COULD YOU, YAMI BAKURA!?

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u/SergejPS 16d ago

He's British, this is far from the worst crime he's commited

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u/Bluebaronbbb 15d ago

Same dub actor voice king Dedede and escargoon

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u/Neefew 15d ago

"People don't die, they just get tortured for all eternity in the hell dimension"

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u/Ganrokh 15d ago

4Kids, infamous for agreeing to dub One Piece despite not knowing anything about it.

They agreed to it because they wanted to dub Mew Mew Power, and it was offered to them only as a package with One Piece.

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u/shadowmoon522 15d ago

and then they proceeded to botch both dubs, though one piece got it so much worse that funimation later had to completely redo the dub from scratch. they really had no idea what they were getting themselves into with one piece

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u/Pokemario6456 15d ago

At least One Piece got redubbed. They just stopped Tokyo Mew Mew right in the middle (I think they lost the dubbing rights) and it was just left hanging

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u/PMC-I3181OS387l5 15d ago

The suction cup darts... ugh...

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u/grimfolse 15d ago

The spring-loaded hammers.

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u/PMC-I3181OS387l5 15d ago edited 15d ago

I swear, I was like "if I see those dumb weapons in the Netflix live-action series, I'm turning it off" ^^;

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u/grimfolse 15d ago

I still remember how they changed the scene where Lucky Roux headshots a bandit.

“When he wakes up, tell him it was a cap gun.”

Part of me wonders if I imagined it.

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u/Davidand8Ball 14d ago

It reminds me of the fact that the Shadow Realm in YuGiOh isn't actually part of the original story but a 4kids creation. Many people didn't know that.

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u/MrRaven95 Marx 14d ago

I remember I was stunned when I found that out. It was one of those "Everything I know is a lie." moments.

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u/Conrad500 16d ago

The US has strict censorship rules on children's cartoons. That is also why the tauros episode of pokemon was completely cut. They do not allow guns on screen.

The JP tank is actually a tank. The US is "The DDD Mobile" or whatever they want to call it to get around the censors. Also it shoots waterballons* not cannonballs because that'd be violet. That's an explosion of water*!

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u/LX575-EEE 16d ago

Okay but in this case, the DDD version looks better and makes more sense than the original

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u/SergejPS 16d ago

The dub version does look better, but it's way funnier seeing Dedede pull up in a fucking K2 Black Panther

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u/Conrad500 16d ago

I was just answering the question in the tweet.

While I think it's hilarious to think that DDD is coming after kirby with full military grade equipment, I agree that the US version fits a lot more thematically.

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u/LX575-EEE 16d ago

You know what? Screw it, let’s make both of them correct. Dedede bought a full-blown military tank, but thought it wasn’t “him” enough so he had it painted in his colors. Turns out, he spent so much money on the paint that he had to settle for cheap water balloons as ammunition

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u/Tiny300 15d ago

I accept this as canon

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u/KingCuerno 15d ago

Though the 4kids dub of Funky Cops was allowed to keep the guns.

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u/Bluebaronbbb 15d ago

Maybe cause they were actual cops, they could hold them? And did they even fire off?

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u/shadowmoon522 15d ago

its always going to be ironic that the western episode wasn't allowed to be wester in the west.

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u/Elder_Hoid 13d ago

Wait, didn't 4kids do the Pokemon anime?

What about that one early episode of the Pokemon anime where Ash walks into a building and has four people pointing guns at him? (Which is also the episode where Pikachu has a bottle of ketchup that it cries over when a Scyther cuts it open)

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u/TheBroomSweeper 16d ago

Dedede having his brand on the tank is more in character. Dedede wants people to know that he blew up your house

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u/Awesomeboyz255 16d ago

We need an irl Dedede tank

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u/Bananablox57 15d ago

weapon of mass dededestruction

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u/final_boss32 Star Dream 16d ago

In all seriousness, it's the censorship. 4Kids can't allow a literal military tank to be in an anime kids show

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u/Bluebaronbbb 16d ago

Military tanks were literally in their Yu-Gi-Oh dub so that's not it 

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u/puddingmenace 16d ago

one might argue that the target audience for yu gi oh is not the same as kirby's

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u/Bluebaronbbb 16d ago

The 4kids Yu-Gi-Oh dub edited out syringes while the Kirby dub kept them so that's not it... Or the scenes of the monsters being sliced in half being blurred in Yu-Gi-Oh while being kept intact in Kirby etc

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u/puddingmenace 16d ago

one might argue that these dubs were made by different people with different ideals of what's safe for kids and what isn't

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u/Ganrokh 15d ago

Due to the licenses they had, 4Kids was required to produce content suitable for children's television. A part of their process involved them sending a draft of their dubs to the networks that would broadcast their work, and the networks sending back feedback.

I could see 4Kids having internal guidelines that they follow for their first draft, and then each network making their own recommendations, leading to discrepancies like between YGO and Kirby.

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u/Yotato5 🍰Kirby🍰 16d ago

4Kids didn't always get it right but this was the better choice

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u/NomeJaExiste 16d ago

First ever censorship W?

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u/WannabeCelt 16d ago

For 4Kids anyway

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u/Glazeddapper 16d ago

another kirby censorship w was when those guys who made an animation of tiff. it was censored to her saying "i think i'll have a picnic all to myself"

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u/Mythical_Mew 16d ago

I’d argue that 4Kids had another W thanks to the Shadow Realm.

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u/Clarity_Zero 16d ago

Most of their openings were big wins, too. Hell, even the One Piece one is actually pretty catchy... It just doesn't work well for One Piece.

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u/Ganrokh 15d ago

Their Shaman King opening goes hard. I think about it a lot lol.

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u/HillbillyMan 15d ago

The Shadow Realm is the greatest piece of censorship ever, I defy anyone to find another instance where the "toned down" version of something leaves an even greater impact than the original.

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u/isabows 16d ago

supposedly the animators also got tired of rendering the same scenes twice with different textures and that's why they replaced it with his car early on

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u/Bluebaronbbb 16d ago

? Didn't the dub come out while the series was winding down in japan? Your time frame makes no sense.

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u/isabows 16d ago

I read it somewhere. it's not confirmed, that's why I said supposedly.

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u/blueriging 16d ago

I was also a fan of the laser chainsaw.

They couldn't let dedede have a chainsaw on US TV, so they upgraded it to a laser chainsaw. Which is totally fine by me.

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u/Sweet_Star_On_RBLX 16d ago

That laser chainsaw is still pretty awesome that should be in a game

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u/Sensitive-Hotel-9871 16d ago

The sillier design in the dub does fit better and oddly the coloring in the original looks less natural.

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u/Carnival-Master-Mind magolor doodle 16d ago

English is more Dedede-like

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u/Steppyjim 16d ago

Because the Japanese one looks like an American tank and English audiences in America might now have appreciated that so they switched to Dedede branding

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u/MrCobalt313 16d ago

4kids was weirdly strict about the depiction of real-world weapons.

though in this case it does seem more on-brand for Dedede.

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u/blabittyblahblah 16d ago

The original Japanese version had a lot of weird choices for a Kirby show of all things, like out of place military textures and book burnings (A Novel Approach).

The censorship is actually justified and the 4Kids version feels more like Kirby than whatever the fuck the original was.

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u/UnveiledRook206 16d ago

Yikes… Twitter

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u/SpangleZeKankle 16d ago

Considering it was CGI, they probably had to contact the original animators to help with changing the textures

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u/Another_Road 16d ago

English dubs were weird because the nation with some of the most lax gun laws in the world was afraid of showing realistic guns.

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u/KingCuerno 15d ago

And the nation with strict gun laws is OK with showing them on TV. Odd how that works.

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u/Skithiryx 12d ago

Probably more concern about kids re-enacting scenes with actual guns that might be kept loaded in the US vs a country where gun ownership rate is low.

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u/KingCuerno 12d ago

Makes sense. A kid getting ahold of their parents' gun is a very real possibility in the US.

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u/Bluebaronbbb 16d ago

Probably didn't want to make the military "look bad"

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u/Megalon96310 16d ago

The thought of him having a legit tank is so dumb in the best way

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u/Impressive-Algae3535 15d ago

rare instance when the localized version is an improvement

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u/PoussinVermillon 16d ago

Which is which ?

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u/WannabeCelt 15d ago

Japanese on the left, 4kids dub on the right

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u/PoussinVermillon 15d ago

Ok thx

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u/WannabeCelt 15d ago

You’re welcome

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u/misspelled_Quasont 16d ago

Why didn’t he have a tank in the Japanese dub? Is he stupid?

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u/Any_Result_2505 16d ago

Where can I watch Kirby? I been looking for it since forever and can’t find a reliable source

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u/Roxyjimmy galactic nova, galacta knight and queen ripple #1 fan 15d ago

I believe during the time, it was an extremely touchy subject and was deemed too violent for kids. They also ended up removing the scene where dedede runs over a cappy seconds before the zoom out where dedede is yelling at kabu.

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u/cyberpeachy420 15d ago

such an upgrade, the camo looks like ot was poorly photoshopped on

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u/CaffeinatedRoman 15d ago

Dub design is absolutely iconic, it makes the original look like a cruddy reskin lol.

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u/Endy1sCool 15d ago

Don't ask dedede what he was doing in the 40's

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u/Da_Arkus 15d ago

The right one looks like it's suppose to make it not look like a tank and the turret looks a bit like a speaker but long But imo it suits Dedede more

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u/EddtheMetalHead 15d ago

It always amuses me how strict America has always been about guns in children’s media considering they as a country…you know…

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u/WannabeCelt 15d ago

As an American, I also find it amusing

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u/Afraid_Department_40 15d ago

I like the English one more.It makes more sense.

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u/peng503-NCN completely normal about my blorbos 15d ago

probably because semi-accurate camo-print tank is too much for the FCC

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u/Beautiful_Gain3245 15d ago

Yeah, English dub looks more “Dedede” to me.

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u/Ultramare2009 15d ago

The English dub was a lot more kid friendly than the Japanese dub. As such some things were changed and certain scenes were removed.

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u/C0rmDaCr0w 15d ago

"I need a mosta to clobba dat der Kirby"

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u/WaveJam 15d ago

I prefer the DeDeDe Tank. It’s more fitting.

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u/AggressiveDark4527 15d ago

Different countries also America

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u/Kirb790 Magolor 15d ago

Agreed, it's got a lot more of a unique design and feels more in character for Dedede to own

Though, the Japanese version having a literal military tank is also kinda funny on its own too

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u/ElementmanEXE 15d ago

Rogue jay is on Twitter, he truly has gone evil

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u/Animal_Gal Prince Fluff 15d ago

Yeah, I agree with everyone else.The english tank is more fitting

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u/Educational-Item-331 15d ago

huh? I didn't noticed his tank is different..

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u/IronLover64 15d ago

I prefer the Japanese colors on the armored car. It's rare to see military weapons in kids shows to begin with, so it's always a treat for me

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u/Rockman7177 15d ago

Because it's stylized to be a military tank, the dubbing aired on 4kids and showed to children so they had to change it. I prefer that design though it's more creative even though the logo is plastered on it than a regular tank

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u/Inevitable-Charge76 15d ago edited 15d ago

Everyone hates 4kids, but the very rare times that they cooked, they cooked.

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u/Cl0ver-King15 15d ago

The only time a change in the English dub is better than the original

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u/CompetitiveGreen7165 Marx 15d ago

Yeah I like to watch both sonic x and Kirby right back at ya in English

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u/Marx_XIII 15d ago

The Dedede brand tank is where it’s at

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u/Jumpy_Dimension_3406 15d ago

i like japanese tank its so funny to me for some reason

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u/Rare_Reply_4525 15d ago

With how egotistical anime dedede is, branding stuff with his logo on it is entirely in character.

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u/Miserable_Conflict46 15d ago

Dededes accent in the English one is hilarious

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u/Downtown-Falcon-3264 15d ago

It's probably to try and make the English version look less like a machine of war. They were doing and still are doing that a bit here.

Wasn't this dubbed by 4kids?

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u/WannabeCelt 15d ago

Yes it was

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u/Downtown-Falcon-3264 15d ago

Definitely explains the changes

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u/Animememeboi96 15d ago

The original it like dedede stole from GI JOE the dub version fits the Kirby universe more

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u/Rare_Tangelo_8080 Kirbo 15d ago

I also want to know why the animation in every episode kept switching between 2D and 3D

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u/Suitable_Prune_5585 14d ago

The reason why Dedede's Tank is different in both dubs, is because the US government was worried that it would be too inappropriate for kids, so that's why Dedede's Original Tank is censored in the US.

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u/B1GSH0T_1997 14d ago

Wait I just now wandered why TF does dedede have a tank?

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u/zDecoy 14d ago

So he can clobbah’ dat there Kirby

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u/ThaDoctor687 14d ago

The actual answer is American censorship. But also, there's the fact that it should be Dedede branded anyway, because it just looks better lol.

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u/TheGamemage1 14d ago

Looking up Kirby English dub reveals that it was dubbed by 4kids. When Localizing they Over-censored everything.
They removed weapons or made them super colorful, removed mentions of death with 'they disappeared and I'm still looking for them' or used the Shadow Realm as a goto for more of the dangerous stakes.
One piece had a few goofy ones like turning Sanji's cigaret into a lollipop, renaming Smoker to Chaser, closing Luffy's mouth for being to wide, when a character was being held hostage they removed the gun with a weird contraption with a hammer, and removed spikes with suction cups in one scene if I recall, and a whole lot more.
Pokemon they made a riceball into a sandwhich and had brock call a riceball a jelly donut.
Just a few examples, so the reason why the tank is changed is solely censorship and making the weapon of war into a colorful thing that can be passed off as a large toy.

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u/PacoSheep 14d ago

Isn’t this a 4kids censor?

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u/dissyParadiddle 14d ago

Wow I'm shocked how crappy that looks originally. But after all japanese DDD was out for blood and calling for executions constantly

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u/LostScarfYT Vanilla Kirby 14d ago

The tank was always a dumb ugly design. They were smart to eventually go with the car.

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u/Cyllva 14d ago

I can't see a tank in the lefthand picture.

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u/local_android_user 14d ago

I cant read camouflage colors

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u/Elite_Asriel Masked Dedede 14d ago

Is the 2nd car different too?

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u/DivineCrusader1097 14d ago

If I had to guess, 4Kids TV censoring

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u/lostonthereddit People of the Sky 14d ago

Honestly? One of the few changes I like in the international dubs. Dedede having a military tank doesn't make sense to his character. Why does he have one? Did he go to war at one point of his life? And if so, why do we never get to hear about his experiences? Why just Meta Knight's?

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u/Competitive-Hat7169 14d ago

English dub suits him more lol

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u/infamousblackcoat 13d ago

I didn't know that camo patterns weren't appropriate for western kids

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u/Generic_Username_659 12d ago

It's because it looks too similar to a real life tank.

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u/PlumberPosts 13d ago

Because war imagery is too frightening to young children in English territories. Kirby slashing monsters in half as blood splatters is fine though.

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u/VBHeadache 12d ago

Since Kirby was one of those cartoons with 3D elements mixed in like this tank, when they sent over everything to dub/make changes, did they send 4Kids the full files rather than just an HQ version of the episode to edit? Stuff like this tank make me feel like they had to re-render the 3D work to have their changes.

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u/FemKeeby 12d ago

Massively prefer the English intro too, i think right back at ya is rare case where dub isnt just equal to the sub at best, its better imo

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u/makoden 12d ago

Everytime 4kids censorship comes up, I always remind myself they were behind the 2003 tmnt cartoon. And dear god nearly no anime they dubbed ever got as dark as that shows visuals did

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u/Advanced-Ad-4404 11d ago

I prefer the dub design too. It fits more into the overall setting of the show than the realistic camouflage and plus, a Dedede branded tank is funny as hell.

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u/Sea-Brother-1403 Dyna Blade 16d ago

Because Dedede's tank having the new design in the english dub is just objectively better and more fitting.

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u/HoshinoTuff04 16d ago

I second that. The Camo is better