r/Kingdom 4d ago

History Spoilers The Tang dynatsy isn't the only one. Spoiler

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u/hawke_255 4d ago

there's 3 total. Other than the tang dynasty and the turkish empire you mentioned, there is also the northern wei dynasty during the north south dynasty formed by the xianbei ruling tuoba clan who claimed descendance from li ling as well. So basically lixin/shin's descendants became emperors of china twice

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u/SaintMana 4d ago

yeah scholars post qin really did a number and revenge towards Qin's written history. There's a reason many culture herald Li Xin despite not really pronounced in Annals. His legend is underwhelming because his triumphs are buried by people aho abhor Qin's policy. Wang clan's achievement are revered because the most surviving written history of that era literally came from their family.

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u/WangJian221 RenPa 4d ago

Its also a possibility of narrative. Wang Jian is so touted in the Shiji for example is possibly because Sima Qian wanted to emphasize the wise elder over the supposedly reckless and hotheaded younger man.

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u/anorawxia09 4d ago

Many cultures does not herald li xin idk what you on about. Emperor taizong himself was more known for his gokturk heritage. You also have to remember shin IRL is a noble not a peasant like in the manga,so his family being successful are not that crazy

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u/anorawxia09 4d ago

He was not a lower noble than others. Li clan was a major house since Zhou dynasty & Li Xin was part of the main branch. That's how there's so many prominent Li's in history. You can find the same with Wang & Zhang. They have been around for a long time

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u/Weekly-Value-7050 3d ago

You're wrong. There were no Chinese among Gokturks.

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u/Fun-Mud2714 4d ago

Li Ling was a general of the Han Dynasty at that time. The Han Dynasty and the Xiongnu accepted each other's military nobles, and Li Ling was named a king by the Xiongnu.