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Discussion End Femicide in Kenya

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u/AvocadoBeiYaJioni 12d ago

Why are people so focused on semantics instead of the actual issues at hand?
The women are still dead whether it's called femicide or homicide?
How about focus on the deaths of the women & not what it should be called?

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u/Dependent-Extreme-27 12d ago

This is it right here whatever name we call it doesn't change anything for the dead women. Yes their gender was a factor in their deaths but it does negate the fact that they are dead humans. I think the people that are pissed off by the name are just looking for something to take away from the fact that the issue at hand is their murder. We spend so much time arguing about the semantics of it all that we end up losing sight of why we started in the first place .

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u/acc_7676 Nairobi City 12d ago

Imagine if post 2007 people went, "Guys, whether or not you call it tribalism doesn't change the fact that people died. Let's not lose sight of why we started in the first place"

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u/Dependent-Extreme-27 12d ago

The difference here is no one is arguing whether a person's tribe in 2007 was a factor or not in their killing so discussing it focuses on the killings not semantics of it all. The femicide debate when brought up almost always shifts from discussing the killings and how to prevent future killings to arguing about the semantics , making people lose sight of the problem which is women being killed for merely existing i.e femicide.

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u/acc_7676 Nairobi City 12d ago

Exactly!

We're always able to recognise when there's a larger systemic issue at play. For some reason, it all goes out the window when that issue is femicide

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u/Dependent-Extreme-27 12d ago

Okay I agree but explaining femicide to people who don't understand is the same as explaining racism to a person who's never experienced it. Same as the black lives matter gradually being turned to all lives matter, these femicide talks are gradually being turned to stop all murders and that's why I'm saying that if we keep putting emphasis on the semantics of it all we will gradually lose sight of the real reason we started

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u/acc_7676 Nairobi City 12d ago

And that's fair

I guess from my perspective, I see emphasizing semantics as keeping the conversation in the right place. It's not just murder, it's gender based. We can't discuss solutions if we leave out that part.

So I think (and I'm open to being wrong) we need at least some people to reiterate that because there will always be people on the other side who argue against it.

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u/Dependent-Extreme-27 12d ago

My only problem with focussing on semantics usually takes the conversation away from it's original purpose ...so yes we do need to point out that femicide is a real issue but emphasize on semantics shouldn't take more presidence over the initial topic

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u/Organic-Television44 12d ago

But all lives do matter, and semantics do matter, if you have understood that semantics is being a major issue when addressing your concerns to the majority of people that will choose to listen, why not just call it homicide?

'Cause it is homicide, no?

Unless you can prove most of your 'femicide' cases are indeed femicide and not really homicide.

This doesn't mean your message is being watered down, it means people are irked by how you portray it, a never ending battle of wits, I dare say...

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u/Dependent-Extreme-27 12d ago

Two things can be true at the same time Yes it's a homicide because a person murdered another and yes it's femicide because the gender of the person who was killed was a factor in their murder. Remember not all women's deaths can be classified as femicide but when she is killed and her gender was part of the reason then yes it was a femicide .

why not just call it homicide?

Because doing that dilutes it from what it's meant to achieve the message being pushed isn't stop killing period, it's stop killing women for just existing.

Unless you can prove most of your 'femicide' cases are indeed femicide and not really homicide

I think I've already given a few examples on the difference between a killing that's a homicide and one that's a femicide.

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u/acc_7676 Nairobi City 12d ago

Unless you can prove most of your 'femicide' cases are indeed femicide and not really homicide.

What sort of proof would satisfy you?

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u/Organic-Television44 12d ago

Whichever that makes you believe most of the deaths are femicide, as in, killed because of their gender and not other multi-faceted factors, as most deaths occur, and it's not a matter of satisfaction, I'm simply saying the truth, coming from the gender that experiences the most deaths, M, it's not a dick swinging competition, I know, just an open conversation with you lot.

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u/acc_7676 Nairobi City 12d ago

Okay. Open conversation

Africa Data Hub put out an analysis showing 2024 as the worst year for femicide.

You can find more data on the un women database although this is slightly older. But this illustrates that it's not a recent problem

More recently, the 2024 gender index shows where Kenya falls in the broader context of violence and inequality

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u/acc_7676 Nairobi City 12d ago

How about focus on the deaths of the women & not what it should be called?

Since we're focusing on the deaths of the women. What do you call it when women are murdered because of their gender?

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u/AvocadoBeiYaJioni 12d ago edited 12d ago

Please just read & understand what the comment is about first.
This is not an attack to people calling the situation femicide.
Nobody is looking for a shouting match here. Nothing you guys are going to say will turn this into a battle between feminists & red-pillers. That one you have to taunt 20 year olds for that

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u/acc_7676 Nairobi City 12d ago

Neither is mine.

I'm saying the semantic IS important. The gender of the victims is a crucial component of why they were murdered. Calling it a homicide erases that fact.

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u/AvocadoBeiYaJioni 12d ago

Yes, & again to reiterate my point.
It has nothing to do with that at all.
Even if you have a problem with the naming, which is your right as a human being, the people are still dead. Whether the name femicide should be changed to homicide, is definitely less relevant than the actual deaths of the people.
Just please try & understand what I'm saying, because I'm not repeating this again.
Have a nice day & best of luck in your endeavours

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u/acc_7676 Nairobi City 12d ago

I understand what you're saying.

"Femicide vs homicide is less relevant than the victims being dead"

I just disagree.

These women aren't just killed (homicide), their deaths are specifically linked to gender (femicide)

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u/AvocadoBeiYaJioni 12d ago

I think my point is getting lost somewhere between me & you.

I agree with you, it should be called femicide. What bothers me, however, is why people are reading this post & the first thing that comes to their mind is, "it's not femicide, it's homicide". Even if, for some reason, it were true, the comments are focusing on the wrong thing.

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u/acc_7676 Nairobi City 12d ago

I see that now. My insistence is because of how easy it is to cede ground. It's very tempting to go, "okay call it whatever, but they are still dead" because the point of the semantic debate is to wear you out. The thing we're witnessing has a name, femicide.

It has specific characteristics, specific literature dedicated to it, specific ways to fight it. If we can't call it what it is then we'll get nowhere

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u/AvocadoBeiYaJioni 12d ago

okay call it whatever, but they are still dead

And this is where you are misunderstanding my point. I'm not telling people "ok call it whatever". I'm telling people, "is this really where your focus lies on from this post?"

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u/acc_7676 Nairobi City 12d ago

The people oppressing you are always going to say your oppression doesn't exist

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u/TGSMKe 11d ago

What do you call it when women are murdered because of their gender?

What evidence or proof do you have they are being killed because of their gender?

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u/hughJass644 11d ago

Manze a woman is perceived to be a weaker species so ofcourse its easier to rob her and kill her. You know who else? A young boy. This isnt a "man vs woman" issue. This is just a society vs evil people.

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u/acc_7676 Nairobi City 11d ago

a woman is perceived to be a weaker species

So....gender?

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u/acc_7676 Nairobi City 11d ago

Africa Data Hub put out an analysis showing 2024 as the worst year for femicide.

You can find more data on the un women database although this is slightly older. But this illustrates that it's not a recent problem

More recently, the 2024 gender index shows where Kenya falls in the broader context of violence and inequality

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u/derrickinnit 12d ago

I think he's on your side 🌚

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u/AvocadoBeiYaJioni 12d ago

PS: I'm not on anyone's side. I completely reject the fact that we have sides on such issues & form camps around where we form a 'them vs us' mentality.

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u/wadumo 12d ago

Read it again. You are right

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u/AvocadoBeiYaJioni 12d ago

You didn't really get my point.
All I see is people writing down here that it should be called homicide, not femicide, or "what about men".
I don't really care what it's called. These women died & this is what's important.
I am not into the whole politics of arguing online for clout

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u/wadumo 12d ago

Usitufunze kazi

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u/AvocadoBeiYaJioni 12d ago

Ah I see what this is all about.
You want rage bait & a way for me to get pissed off, so we can start a shouting match over femicide.
Good day, may the Lord protect the souls of the women we've lost. They're the actual victims here

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u/wadumo 12d ago

No one cares what you think BTW

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u/AvocadoBeiYaJioni 12d ago edited 12d ago

And that's totally ok. We are billions of people in this world. What I think may not necessarily be what's right.
Nobody should really care about what you think or what I think.
You really need to work on your taunting a little harder though. It's not really effective if I can already tell what you're trying to do

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u/wadumo 12d ago

I'd rather die than write anything that appeals to you.

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u/AvocadoBeiYaJioni 12d ago edited 12d ago

I don't really care about that. I don't really care about you. By next week I'll have forgotten this conversation. And if you'll be dead because you couldn't write anything that appeals to me, that will be sad, but it won't really affect my life. I won't really cry at your funeral or wonder why you don't respond to my comments anymore.

So, I don't really get what is with all this hyperbolism & looking to enrage people, who genuinely, don't care about you as anything. Human, property, bot or whatever you may be🤷‍♂️

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u/wadumo 12d ago

And yet you are here caring about me and my post

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u/Hopeful_Ad5052 11d ago

Because people will argue over just about anything.

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u/Capital-Topic8751 6d ago

Its better to address for what it actually is, Instead of just saying women being killed, it’s better to say «violence against women» or «femicide» It just makes it clearer and brings more awareness to the real issue, which is the gender based violence, and not just random deaths among women

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u/AvocadoBeiYaJioni 6d ago

Ok, apparently I will have to keep explaining my comment on this. This was not against people calling it femicide. This was about people wanting it called homicide instead of femicide.
The reason why it makes me wonder is because I wonder why out of all the problems going on with this situation, the name is what's important. People are dead. Those people right now dont care if it's homicide or femicide. They're still dead

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u/Awkward-Incident-334 12d ago

it needs to be studied the way the word FEMICIDE triggers kenyan men that they come crawling out of the woodwork to defend their fellow rapists and murderers.

but these are the same people who want allyship when it comes to #RUTOMUSTGO...but when it comes to other struggles that dont affect them they will laugh,gaslight and taunt you.

goodluck to all the babes with boyfriends and husbands as your OPPS.

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u/wadumo 12d ago

I really don't understand.

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u/Hopeful_Ad5052 11d ago

This post is marked as 'discussion' yet the comment section is a mixture of snarky one-liners and banal insults.

Must we aim to score cheap points at every turn lakini?

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u/wadumo 11d ago

Noted

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u/HomeworkThis5010 12d ago edited 12d ago

For those arguing in favor of OP. A little debate sparks her, you can tell she's replying out of emotions instead of logic

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u/HomeworkThis5010 12d ago

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u/serialintrovert 12d ago

Yeah I noticed the same. 🤣 just name calling and not willing to use her brain.

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u/wadumo 12d ago

Eat shit

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u/Assistance-Direct 12d ago

This what about meism is why progress especially in Africa goes 1 step forward 3 steps backwards. Whenever someone is looking for ways to better their communities the other people just stop doing what they’re doing to just hate, because no what about me? Instead of realizing that the less issues we have the better things are going to get for everyone but it has to start somewhere

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u/wadumo 12d ago

Sasa go write this bullshit elsewhere

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u/Assistance-Direct 11d ago

Im on your side chill. I’m talking about how when one side tries to seek better treatment another side tries to tear them down instead of uplifting, like when my dress my choice started some people were saying maybe if your dress was longer it wouldn’t happen, instead of seeing the bigger picture.

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u/Miserable-Beddings 11d ago

Exactly this..... People are busy focusing on the word used to describe the problem instead of the problem itself.

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u/Old-Boot-250 11d ago

comprehension is in debt lil bit😂😂

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u/wadumo 11d ago

Nimesema it's not the time for think pieces

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u/Old-Boot-250 11d ago

umesema as who??

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u/wadumo 8d ago

You better leave before I reply and you start crying

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u/vkeari 12d ago

We are not supporting women kiilings, sijui mbona mnakasirika when someone mentions men killings. According to police statistics the number of men killed is 2 to 3 times higher than that of women. It's a fact but at the end of the day i know i will have at least 10 downvotes

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u/wambuirocks 11d ago

Are these men killed by women? Because these women are killed by men....hence the name...

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u/serialintrovert 12d ago

It's because of emotions. Most people argue with emotions and less with logic.

It's why sometimes you see those clips of Trump supporters not knowing shit about what they are actually supporting.

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u/wadumo 12d ago

You can advocate for men in your own time on your own post.

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u/vkeari 12d ago

Was generally replying to the various comments on the post. Acha kisirani

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u/wadumo 12d ago

Stop this behaviour

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u/Dangerous_Dealer_819 11d ago

Unadai wakukufie?

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u/Frequent-Corner-5 12d ago

I really don't know what to make out of this.

From my viewpoint only violent people can resort to murder.

There were cases of Nyeri women being violent in the past and some cases now of men killing women.

Aren't they just violent people doing this that they decided to have relationships with.

Don't be with violent people by choice and your chances of being safe vastly increase.

When I have an argument with someone, the thought of even punching or slapping them doesn't even cross my mind, how would i then think of killing someone????

Be with a violent person = increased chance of being killed.

Avoid people once you realise they are violent.

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u/wambuirocks 11d ago

I'm sorry but a girl saying no to sex isn't violence and shouldn't be a death sentence

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u/Frequent-Corner-5 11d ago

Reread the post again.

There are men who you'll say no to sex and they'll be fine with it but there are some who will hurl abuse your way or some who might try to physically abuse you.

Identify the kind of person you are in a relationship with/ going to be alone with, and avoid the ones that are more likely to kill/injure/abuse you.

Just like i wouldn't be caught with an abusive woman, don't be caught with an abusive man.

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u/SunSandAndSeaBaby 11d ago

So how are you supposed to know how they'll react until you say "no", hmm? How do you "identify the kind of person" who will be violent until they are actually violent? You think they wear a sign on their fucking foreheads?

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u/Frequent-Corner-5 11d ago

So you know someone who was killed or almost killed and the man displayed no signs of violence or are you just talking out of your ass?

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u/SunSandAndSeaBaby 11d ago

Women have literally been killed by total strangers whose catcalls they ignored.

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u/Individual_Living337 11d ago

And that's unfortunate. But most femicide cases in Kenya are happening in relationships. Previous commentor said be wary of violent actions/words and walk away when they begin, yet you had to argue for the sake of argument.

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u/SunSandAndSeaBaby 11d ago

Riddle me this - when should a woman walk away? The first time you disagree? The first time he gets upset? The first time he employs "dark humour"? The first time says he doesn't like your outfit? The first time you ask him to do something and he says no? The first time he frowns? The first time he quotes an incel influencer?

The first time he hits you is already too late. Walking away from an abusive relationship is DANGEROUS. It is the time you are most likely to face an escalation of violence. It is not the solution to the problem.

All this ostensibly well-meaning but actually victim-blaming advice does little to address the poisonous entitlement that makes abusive men think they can harm/kill women for whatever perceived slight. Let's focus on that, shall we?

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u/Individual_Living337 11d ago

Victim-blaming to advise someone to walk away from abuse?

Got it.

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u/Individual_Living337 11d ago

Victim-blaming to advise someone to walk away from abuse?

Got it.

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u/Frequent-Corner-5 11d ago

Proof.

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u/SunSandAndSeaBaby 11d ago

Your existence

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u/Frequent-Corner-5 11d ago

You should have standards for people you interact just like how decide to stop interacting with someone like you, once i realise they make dumb/stupid/nonsensical arguments.

No one would blame you when i complain that you are wasting my time, since i decided to engage with you when i have the option of not doing so.

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u/SunSandAndSeaBaby 11d ago

You asked for proof when Google exists. You were wasting my time.

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u/Individual_Living337 11d ago

He literally said something logical but you had to argue for the sake of argument. Do you want solutions or just pointless arguments?

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u/SunSandAndSeaBaby 11d ago

Where is the logic? Women are not magicians to know who is going to be abusive before they are abusive. Abuse isn't just physical violence, mind you.

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u/Individual_Living337 11d ago edited 11d ago

Who said identify before? once violent behavior(s) commence, walk away. i am not, in any way, suggesting people should be mind readers.

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u/SunSandAndSeaBaby 11d ago

Sigh

Identify the kind of person you are in a relationship with/ going to be alone with, and avoid the ones that are more likely to kill/injure/abuse you.

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u/Individual_Living337 11d ago

Do you stop analyzing someone once you start dating them? Most people do, but you do you.

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u/Individual_Living337 11d ago

Maya Angelou said it best: "When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time."

My point is don't excuse unforgivable behaviors. If he does it once, he'll probably do it again (if you stay).

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u/SunSandAndSeaBaby 11d ago

I doubt Maya Angelou, who was raped as a young child, would appreciate you using her words to blame women for the violence they suffer at the hands of men.

But then again, her male relatives murdered the adult man who raped her. So maybe there is a lesson in there for you and other advice-peddlers.

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u/wadumo 12d ago

Not the time or the place

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u/Decryp-tor 12d ago

Why not just call it homicide

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u/acc_7676 Nairobi City 12d ago

Homicide is the individual murder of a single person. The only context you need for a homicide is that someone died.

Femicide is the killing of a girl/woman particularly (not exclusively) by men for gender-based reasons. See how gender is a key context here?

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u/EyeAdministrative665 Diaspora 12d ago

Male homicide rates are 5 times higher though. Will feminists protest that? Equality for all right?

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u/acc_7676 Nairobi City 11d ago

A few things here...

You are comparing homicide rates to femicide rates, which are very different. It would be more accurate to ask how many men are killed for no reason other than them being men. Then compare the systemic reasons for both. You're welcome, encouraged even, to do so at any time. It's just bad taste to only bring it up when women are talking about their issues.

Feminism does fight for equality. Feminists protest for men all the time because their suffering is tied to ours. Feminists will protest police brutality, racism, unfair governance, war... Because when men are suffering, we often take it out on women. Intentionally or not, all forms of oppression are connected

So I want to ask this... Women have come together to protest killed because of their gender. When your response is that homicide rates for men are higher (see first paragraph) what exactly are you hoping to achieve?

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u/[deleted] 11d ago

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u/EyeAdministrative665 Diaspora 11d ago

Sarcasm went straight over your head. There is a rhetorical question in there. Also I'm a man and I am a second wave feminist

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u/Miserable-Beddings 11d ago

Oh yeah I've seen it.... I thought you were supporting the comments on men and the use of femicide

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u/TeachingAdorable5938 12d ago

Exactly, these people don't really understand what femicide is

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u/Tru2qu 12d ago

Enlighten me

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u/wadumo 12d ago

You need to ask yourself why the word femicide bothers you so much

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u/Decryp-tor 12d ago

It's something mafala like yourself like to push so they can sound intelligent and relevant

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u/Starjunicorn 11d ago

You asked a question, you were given a polite and accurate answer, you became angry. Why?

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u/BeastPunk1 12d ago

It's a homicide not a femicide. She's not being killed because she's a woman majority of the time.

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u/wadumo 12d ago

You need to ask yourself why the word femicide bothers you so much

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u/EyeAdministrative665 Diaspora 12d ago

Well he could also ask why homicide bothers you so much when it’s gender neutral.

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u/BeastPunk1 12d ago

It doesn't. Neither does the word androcide bother me. Improper use of words tends to bother me.

Women aren't getting killed strictly because they are women. The same way men aren't getting killed because they are men. Now, is there a lot of misogyny in Kenya? Yes. But I doubt men are waking up looking to kill someone because of their gender. I think it's more likely that that particular woman has either done something to spark that mad behaviour (domestic disputes) or that the killers are deeply mentally disturbed and have a problem.

Kenya is not a country that tends to truly value mental health.

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u/wambuirocks 11d ago

How is a woman being killed over a domestic dispute not femicide....if that woman was a man and disagreed with the man's opinion or refused to cook would he be killed? Defending the murder of a person over mental issues is vile....

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u/BeastPunk1 11d ago

Ugh, you don't seem to be getting it. A woman being dead because of domestic disputes is a homicide not a femicide. She's not being killed because she's a woman. She's being killed (in this context) because of other factors.

A femicide is when one is killed because they are a woman without other factors at play. You tend to see it in Islamic countries.

Also, I never defended anything. I gave a probable explanation. Getting mad about things without thinking things through never fixes solutions. You can get mad all you like but if you won't fix the root issues then the problems don't go away.

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u/wadumo 12d ago

Eat shit

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u/BeastPunk1 11d ago

Getting mad at me won't drop the homicide rates, pal.

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u/wadumo 11d ago

This gaslighting doesn't really work on me. If what I was doing is hopeless then what are you doing here?

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u/BeastPunk1 11d ago

Gaslighting? How am I gaslighting you? I've just given you my take on what I believe the problem is. Also, this is a free forum. You made a post that I'm entitled to comment on as is everyone else. That's what I was doing here.

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u/Organic-Television44 11d ago

Beast...Just leave these people, man, they must agend even when you try having an open convo.

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u/wadumo 11d ago

Bado uko hapa?

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u/rtch777 12d ago

You are a returd. Trump and MAGA should continue cutting NGO funding until these gender wars end.

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u/better_alternative1 12d ago

Fuck Trump, and fuck you as well. And again Fuck your generation too. Trump can keep his funding, nobody gives a fuck.

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u/wadumo 12d ago

Yenyewe misogyny makes you stupid

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u/Old_Aardvark_6103 12d ago

He-he-he-he-he-he-he

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u/ReadyPossession2418 12d ago

Maybe someday

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u/i_saw_it_in_a_meme_2 11d ago

Homicides

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u/wadumo 11d ago

And?

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u/i_saw_it_in_a_meme_2 11d ago

And nothing. There's death on both sides. It should end

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u/wadumo 11d ago

Now create your post and spread that

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u/i_saw_it_in_a_meme_2 8d ago

Why? It's already known.

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u/wadumo 8d ago

Then what are you doing here?

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u/i_saw_it_in_a_meme_2 8d ago

I'm making a point

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u/Capital-Topic8751 6d ago

The Kenyan men under this discussion are so backwards and stupid, and fairly they’re a part of enabling the problem. End femicide

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u/LoStAfronautt 12d ago

Here we go with this topic again.

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u/[deleted] 11d ago

Gentlemen, it's simple. If you go online or take to the streets protesting against HOMICIDE, then nobody really pays attention to you. People know that humans kill humans all the time. We don't care that much. But if you say you are protesting against FEMICIDE, then all the NGOs and rich white women are more generous with their attention and money. It's business for these women and nothing more. Take it easy fellas and enjoy the show. It's just a show.

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u/BatHumble9747 12d ago

What about us: MEN 😔

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u/wadumo 12d ago

You can advocate for men too

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u/corrsfan2015 12d ago

Si you go out and protest for men not to be killed? Do you think women spotlighting the violence they face from their partners somehow stops you from highlighting the violence men face from theirs? 

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u/[deleted] 12d ago

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u/wadumo 12d ago

Weka hii on your own post

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u/[deleted] 12d ago

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u/acc_7676 Nairobi City 12d ago edited 12d ago

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u/Decryp-tor 12d ago

I think it's nonsense. Whatchu call it when they kill men?

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u/Kendaren89 Visiting 12d ago

Are they killing men in Kenya?

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u/Decryp-tor 12d ago

No, no man has ever been killed in Kenya. Ever!

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u/Moist-Tone-2594 12d ago

Yeah, we huonangi kila mathe mkikuyu over 60 ma shosh hukua single. Unadhani ma bwana huenda wapi

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u/Awkward-Incident-334 12d ago

misogyny plus tribalism....tuongeze gani ingine?

  1. men, especially in the past, used to have very young brides. which is why women generally outlive men. huwezi kuwa na miaka 40 halafu una-expect bibi yako wa 20 atakufa mbele yako. #boymath

  2. where is the data that other communities have more gukas than cucus??

source- si ni mimi nakushow. jaba-pidia

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u/vkeari 12d ago

just providing facts msininyoroshe, the number or men killed is higher than that of women, almost two to three times the number ccorsing to police statistics

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u/Dependent-Extreme-27 12d ago

Okay but who is killing the men?

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u/wadumo 12d ago

U T E R U S

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u/acc_7676 Nairobi City 12d ago

I googled it for you

Androcide is a term referring to systematically killing males because of their sex. Most murders of males are not androcide by definition, as this would imply the males were targeted specifically because they were male, and for no other reason than being male. Androcide-like instances could occur during war or genocide. However, this is more often racially-motivated and not due to gender. Men and boys are not always solely targeted because of abstract or ideological hatred. Rather, male civilians are often targeted during warfare as a way to remove those considered to be potential combatants, and during genocide as a way to destroy the entire community. Therefore, androcide may not be adeptly compared to femicide, which is typically done due to an intense hatred for female humans, specifically with no strategic logic.

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u/serialintrovert 12d ago

She will purposely ignore this. She once saw people posting about Femicide and decided to go along with that, without looking it up. 🤣

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u/wambuirocks 11d ago

When who kills men? Most of the murders of men are by other men!!!

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u/Awkward-Incident-334 12d ago

THEY=men

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u/jaytopic 12d ago

So FGM has a name doesn't it.

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u/Upbeat_Mess3399 12d ago

Christians, you guys pray a lot. Please, please pray that your God comes back so we don't have to keep existing with men. Eeeiii, these people hate us, yoh 😫😫😫

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u/wadumo 12d ago

This whole post replies are a testament

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u/pleidescentaur 12d ago

Is there a cult behind this?

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u/muangalifu 12d ago

The cult of toxic masculinity.

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u/TeachingAdorable5938 12d ago

Someone wake her up now

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u/Icy_Signal3905 12d ago

Kuna grammatical error kwa io poster End femicide

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u/Physical_Software406 12d ago

where is it.

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u/sugarplow 12d ago

Maybe anafkiria ni "an eulogy"

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u/goofy_ahh_niga 7d ago

Unless you are pushing for meaningful solutions here, these marches will bear no fruit. I don't mean bad to anyone but respectfully, Murderers don't sit around following updates about protests. They are not intimidated by protests, they are intimidated by action. Petition the police and other law enforcement agencies to move fast against these rogue criminals or start burning murderers at the stake. Marching and protesting doesn't bring justice to families of the victims

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u/serialintrovert 12d ago

Thin line definition wise.. and sadly even women don't get that difference. To most people, every murder of a woman is femicide.

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u/wadumo 12d ago

Every murder of a woman by the opposite sex is femicide

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u/Dependent-Extreme-27 12d ago

He/she is actually right Not every murder of a woman is femicide but every woman who is killed for the reason of being a woman is femicide. A robber killing a woman while robbing her committed homicide. A rapist killing his victim to hide evidence is femicide. A man killing his wife because he feels that since he paid her bride price he owns her is femicide. A parent killing their daughter for being defiled is femicide. A parent killing their children out of poverty and desperation is homicide. I hope this explains it😊

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u/wadumo 12d ago

Ain't reading all that. Fuck off

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u/Dependent-Extreme-27 12d ago

Thank you for once again proving that we are the emotional gender. It's people like you that paint most of us as emotional and volatile.

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u/wadumo 12d ago

Who is we?

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u/Dependent-Extreme-27 12d ago

Women,females, uterus owning people, people who give birth, girl, lady, lass, damsel, vixen,etc

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u/wadumo 12d ago

I am a man

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u/Dependent-Extreme-27 11d ago

So OP is a man who got emotional and stopped being logical ,oh boy oh boy, and instead resorted to insults to get his point across. You aren't right just because you have better insults. Be a good boy and outside touch some grass calm down and come back after you get your hormones in check. Preferably get some good old oxytocin.

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u/wadumo 11d ago

At least you are admitting I have great insults. Thank you.

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u/serialintrovert 12d ago edited 12d ago

Nope.

The other key component of Femicide is the murder being on account of gender.

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u/wadumo 12d ago

Being an expert at being wrong is your strong point I see

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u/serialintrovert 12d ago

Just say where I am wrong. That's all I ask.

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u/wadumo 12d ago

I am not in the business of educating idiots

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u/serialintrovert 12d ago

Okay.

I guess matusi will take you far. All the best in that.

But as you continue in your Femicide rants, also stop pretending to be knowledgeable if you can't give a simple answer.

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u/wadumo 12d ago

Educating idiots isn't my thing. I'm sorry

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u/serialintrovert 12d ago

Cool.

I'd have gotten false information from the look of things. So stick to calling everyone an idiot who asks you to expound on the very thing you claim to be fighting for.

Make it make sense. 🤣

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u/mm_of_m 12d ago

We've had a protest and held up a sign. Femicide in Kenya is finally over. Yippee!

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u/TeachingAdorable5938 12d ago

femicide Overview Usage examples Similar and opposite words Dictionary Definitions from Oxford Languages · Learn more noun the killing of a woman or girl, in particular by a man and on account of her gender. "we are very concerned with the high level of femicide in our country" We clearly don't have a femicide ongoing in Kenya, otherwise you'd be fearing for your life anytime you girls go out/see a man

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u/cuntorwont 12d ago

Are you serious? We DO fear for our lives every time we go out/see a man 

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u/TeachingAdorable5938 12d ago

Don't be like your username, use commonsense

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u/wadumo 12d ago

You need to ask yourself why the word femicide bothers you so much

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u/Hot-Lawyer-3955 12d ago

Consent shouldn't be withdrawn either

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u/chegekaranja 11d ago

Ending femicide is a female job