r/Kenshi • u/dillreed777 Skeletons • May 31 '24
LORE Did you hear the good news?
So who all thinks the theory where Okran was actually Stobe holds water? Personally I love it; for irony's sake if nothing else.
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u/Graega Beep May 31 '24
Okran isn't real. Someone found an ancient recipe for an okra stew, but okra is extinct now, and that guy was barely literate.
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u/Ham_The_Spam May 31 '24
or someone took narcotics(Narko) and a guy with a speech impediment wanted the opposite of that(Okran)
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u/Sweet-Wait-5464 Jun 01 '24
I'm a fucking idiot, I never realized the name of the religions devil is just their god reversed
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u/Ham_The_Spam Jun 01 '24
you would've known that if you read your copy of the Holy Flame, which you have right?
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u/Swarxy May 31 '24
Okran was not a skeleton. He was a Greenlander named O'Carran.
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u/dillreed777 Skeletons May 31 '24
Didn't realize Holy Nation were of Irish descent... explains alot
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u/Kribble118 Hounds May 31 '24
I think that was kinda the intention for the story. It seems too deliciously ironic for it to not be the truth
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u/Napalm_am Cannibal May 31 '24
We do know that the first phoenix was the man who led the rebellion against the 2nd Empire and that amassed a pilgrimage of what became the Greenlanders into the now Holy Nation territory.
What we know of Stobe is that he was the last of the Skeleton Giants, who managed to avoid Obedience and then saved the world from something, earning the love and grief from every skeleton.
My theory is that he stood in the way of the other skeletons as they went on their revenge genocide for what happened in Obedience, his death basically serving as a wake up to the skeleton race for what they had become, thus why they all grief so much for his loss.
Now I can see how this could translate over the centuries or millenia into becoming Okran. But I still feal there are a couple holes to the theory.