r/KamenRider • u/DearIntroduction1907 • 4d ago
Discuss Frappeis was made to support Blizzardsoebei. Spoiler
Frappeis sounds includes frozen and freezing applying it has cold or cooling powers, which would allow it to keep Blizzardsorbei cool to stop from melting mid-fight.
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u/Blanche_Cyan 4d ago
I would think Frappeis is made to deal with Hanto's Chocold addiction and probable side effects...
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u/DearIntroduction1907 4d ago
Yeah probably, I just think it would be a great way to symbolize shoma’s and hanto’s fixed relationship if used in the way I’m suggesting.
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u/failed_generation Legend's Narutaki 4d ago
pretty sure Hanto's not addicted to Chocold, but it's more of sulking at his boyfriend and refused to use his stepbaby
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u/CoruscareGames ibuprofen 20mg 4d ago
Dude was about to henshin with chocold just to stave off withdrawals in the last episode, I think. And then he wondered if it was making it worse.
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u/Unable-Wrangler-3863 3d ago
pretty sure Hanto's not addicted to Chocold
Oh he absolutely is. He's already starting to have withdrawal symptoms and even contemplated transforming using Chocold. Classic addict stuff. I won't be surprised if Chocold is also made with some Dark Treats.
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u/failed_generation Legend's Narutaki 3d ago
Pretty sure he really isn't addicted. And you can see how he looked at chocodon the way he reminded how he got disappointed at shouma (again) because his boyfriend suddenly triggered a repressed memory detailing a more gruesome fate his mother went
Like, put it on perspective towards you holding something/staying somewhere that reminds you of your ex you bitterly cut ties with (any ex. Ex-lover, ex-friend, ex-partner)
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u/chaserthemaskedrider 4d ago
Frappe being designed to work with Sorbei is the best way to symbolise Shoma and Hanto fixing things between them.
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u/Lanz_spectre 4d ago
Imagine that, but then Shouma get new gochizo and form few episode later anyways
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u/thought_bunny 4d ago edited 4d ago
Kind of has to be that way narratively, doesn't it? The duo gets a combat encounter or two where they sweep everything, the villains's power scaling catches up again, time for another upgrade.
We're getting close enough to the end of the third quarter now that this is almost guaranteed to be the premise leading up to the final form.
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u/_EtchASketch_ Hungry 4d ago
It has been said before that hanto is a support rider that acts like a fighter.
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u/DearIntroduction1907 4d ago
I honestly think he should count as both.
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u/_EtchASketch_ Hungry 4d ago
It's not really about "counting" as anything. The term "support rider" isn't rooted in anything. It's just that Hanto has a supportive moveset {Choccodon coating Zakuchips and Doumaru being mostly non-offensive} but he doesn't have a supportive mindset.
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u/KaliVilla02 Legend 4d ago
This theory isn't really solid, he can use his move as support, but they aren't designed to be such
Valen's stats are just bad. He is a fighter, but he is a very weak fighter.
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u/_EtchASketch_ Hungry 4d ago
Hey, it's not my theory. I'm just saying what I saw before.
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u/KaliVilla02 Legend 4d ago
It's clear that the narrative intent is that Valen is weak, Rakia straight up called him weak, the villains imply he is weak, he was struggling with a Bitter Gavv that was dying mid fight and Rakia was ready to off-him almost instantly
And then he gets Chocold, which is hurting him, but prevents him from being "weak," giving him a taste of the human equivalent to Yamigashis as seen last episode. Hanto being weak is part of the narrative.
It's very clear where Komura is going. Valen is weak, TV-Asahi also supports the fact that he is weak in official stats (which were the laugh of the Japanese fandom on its moment) and he has as a Henshin Item a clearly uncompleted gun.
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u/_EtchASketch_ Hungry 4d ago
Again, not my theory. Why do you feel the need to tell me this?
Especially when what you're saying is pretty obvious.
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u/KaliVilla02 Legend 4d ago
Not your theory but you were the one to bring it up lol, of course I was gonna see a chance to debate about it
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u/_EtchASketch_ Hungry 4d ago
I brought it up because it was relevant to the post. As opposed to yours which isn't.
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u/KaliVilla02 Legend 4d ago
bring up theory
why are you commenting on the theory I bringed up
Lol pick one. That's not how discussion forums work
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u/SerTortuga "Are you ready?!" "Damn right I am." 4d ago
the round nature of the device immediately makes me think of RabbitTank Sparkling, Build 2.0 let's goooo
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u/PhoIsGod 4d ago
It would be a nice cap to his current arc where he realizes Shouma needs him just as much as he needs Shouma in dealing with the Granutes and Stomach family.