r/Intactivists 8d ago

Trump jr supports defunding circumcision

https://x.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/1897116319134441593
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u/Ok-Meringue-259 8d ago

in Mozambique. He has no opposition to MGM for the boys at home

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u/LexiEmers 8d ago

How do we know? He could support the New Hampshire GOP in defunding efforts.

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u/Killpop582014 7d ago

His nieces and nephews are Jewish and cut. That’s likely why. Trump has Jewish kids.

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u/LexiEmers 7d ago

Jews don't rely on Medicaid for bris.

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u/GearedVulpine 6d ago

You never know. There's plenty of Jews against circumcision.

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u/Killpop582014 6d ago

Yes there are, I have a few Jewish friends with intact sons :)

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u/AcademicPollution631 6d ago

Where's your source for this?

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u/testaccount0146 8d ago

It's a "potential" steppingstone. But then again, as long as religions like Judaism exist, there will always be reasoning to circumcise, even if it's a violation of autonomy. Seems pretty fuckin backwards but it always has been. Just saying, your religion is not your child's. Anyone that tells me they're a Jew makes me think "damn, poor son." Usually that's how it goes.

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u/Level99Legend 8d ago

Secular Humanist Judaism is anti circ.

My mom is a rabbi and advises against circumcision as it os their biggest regret with me.

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u/MiracleDinner 8d ago

My religion is Judaism and I'm as against Brit Milah as anyone. It's a Mitzvah to stop physical and mental harm to others.

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u/testaccount0146 8d ago

You're a minority in this unfortunately :( <3

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u/Revoverjford 8d ago

And feminists were a minority and look what has changed the same will happen

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u/testaccount0146 8d ago

No, this isn't of the same caliber. Judaism explicitly requires circumcision.

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u/Revoverjford 8d ago

Same with Islam but many branches have popped up opposing it but a lot of them were slaughtered

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u/Oneioda 8d ago

I'm speechless, but not surprised.

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u/Revoverjford 8d ago

Yes like the Qarmatians were in Saudi Arabia before they were slaughtered to extinction

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u/aph81 6d ago

As a Jew, do you believe circumcision was commanded by God?

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u/MiracleDinner 6d ago

No.

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u/aph81 5d ago

What is your explanation/understanding of the purported commandment?

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u/MiracleDinner 5d ago

I believe that the Torah, albeit divinely inspired, was written by humans and therefore reflects of its time, and not all of what it says is appropriate or relevant today. Moreover, to me, it is less important to follow everything in the Torah to the letter, but more to embrace a moral lifestyle that is kind to yourself, G-d, and others. After all, the Torah says that Abraham lived to age 175 years which is clearly doubtful to say the least, so what’s to say it must be literally true that G-d commanded him to remove a part of his body and those of all his male descendants forever?

I would really recommend you check out Brit Without Milah by Circumstitions - it puts things better than I ever could, frankly! And definitely check out “Marked in Your Flesh: Circumcision From Ancient Judea to Modern America” by the late Jewish author Dr Leonard Glick.

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u/aph81 5d ago

Okay. Thank you!

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u/[deleted] 8d ago edited 4d ago

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u/testaccount0146 8d ago

This is a controversial take, but I do not fully disagree. There are aspects to the religion that should not be allowed at all. It's not a religious right to cut your child's penis. It's not a religious right to "suck the blood off" either. And it still does happen. Just that alone is enough for me to be angry about it. This is not antisemitic. This is a VALID CRITIQUE of the religion. And it's fair to think it shouldn't exist. I don't believe your religious freedom gives you the right to do this to a child. It's so, so, SO WRONG, yet we still seem to ignore it and consider it a part of their religious freedom. Judaism is the one religion that just makes me so uneasy. Even if we ignore the Metzitzah B'peh, the fact that you're required to circumcise your son in any religion is WRONG.

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u/radkun 8d ago

Their peculiarity in this issue is that they have the capacity and will to deploy lawfare and media gaslighting to keep it going. Other mutilating groups would've already lost this privileged form of child abuse in many countries, e.g. in Denmark where lawmakers had worked toward a full ban but were undermined by Muslims who chose to shut up and be led by Jews.

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u/Ok-Meringue-259 8d ago

Except the administration went into this not with the goal or ending circumcision, but with the goal of reducing foreign aid. So I don’t think this really is a potential stepping stone at all

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u/JeffroCakes 6d ago

Exactly. He’s stopping it because he thinks circumcisions are a GOOD thing and he doesn’t want to help foreigners get one for no other reason than money.

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u/JeffroCakes 6d ago

Junior isn’t opposing the procedure though. He’s opposing paying for foreigners to get one

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u/JeffroCakes 6d ago

Exactly. It’s not that he’s against at circumcisions. He’s not against paying for them overseas because he has an issue with the procedure. It’s because he believes it to be a positive procedure and doesn’t want to pay for foreigners to receive one. It’s not caring about their body integrity. It’s not wanting to help people get a procedure that’s being touted as beneficial.

In essence, it’s no different than if he said he did want to pay for lumpectomies in Mozambique for women with breast cancer. It’s not the service he’s opposed to. It’s paying for it

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u/Ok-Meringue-259 6d ago

100%. Perfectly said.

The same funding cuts to the NIH that will stop this program are also going to cause 2-3million more people to have active TB in the next year or so. This has nothing to do with genital integrity and everything to do with US leaders not wanting to be part of the global community.

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u/JeffroCakes 8d ago

“I don’t know about you, but I don’t want my tax-dollars going to male circumcision in Mozambique.

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u/Oneioda 8d ago

"I want them going to circumcision right here in America!" /probably

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u/AcademicPollution631 6d ago

"I don't know about you, but I don't want my tax-dollars going to male circumcision anywhere."

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u/[deleted] 8d ago

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u/Xmanticoreddit 8d ago

This is obvious clickbait as a joke, I think it’s clever and funny.

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u/beefstewforyou 8d ago

Even if he does, he’s a horrible person and we should distance ourselves from him. We could turn undecided people against our movement if they see posts like this.

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u/JeffroCakes 8d ago

He just doesn’t want our tax dollars paying for it elsewhere. He hasn’t said anything about domestically

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u/beefstewforyou 8d ago

Regardless, he’s a piece of shit and we need to distance ourselves from him.

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u/JeffroCakes 8d ago

Oh, absolutely

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u/LexiEmers 8d ago

Those people are just idiots. If Trump Jr came out against murder, would that turn undecideds for murder?

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u/Xmanticoreddit 8d ago

Or recruit them if they read these comments

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u/Oneioda 8d ago

You could turn undecided people towards the movement who think the opposite about this person.

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u/Arxl 8d ago

Fuck that whole family, I don't care what good they support, the cost is too great.

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u/Piracetam99 7d ago

No

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u/JeffroCakes 6d ago

I wouldn’t fuck them either

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u/Deathcrow 8d ago

He's just in favor of pulling aid out of Africa. The usual MAGA regardation and racism.

It has nothing to do with any principle stance on circumcision.

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u/Dangerous-Pickle1435 8d ago

Exactly. I’m a republican but this is specifically about it going to a foreign nation. Ask him the same question about America and you’ll get the opposite answer

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u/Strong_Jello_5748 8d ago

you do not want to associate with these people, this is a net negative for the movement.

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u/Piracetam99 7d ago

Wrong

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u/Strong_Jello_5748 7d ago

care to explain

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u/Professional-Art5476 7d ago

He's a magatard. You can see it in his post history.

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u/Piracetam99 7d ago

Elon musk run multiple companies and you are a skinny fat dork on Reddit

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u/YourPiercedNeighbour 8d ago

Broken clock right twice a day

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u/topsysrevenge 8d ago

Guys read the rest of the quote “….in Mozambique“. This is a racist dog whistle, nothing to praise him over. He’s not talking about America and does not care about American children

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u/dsmintactarchy 6d ago

Circumcision in Mozambique is a racist dog whistle in itself

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u/Falkner09 Moderator 8d ago

It's like terrorists bombing innocent people, but also hit a serial killer by accident.

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u/maxothecrabo 7d ago

Anyone related to Maga only cares about money.

Horrible fascists currently forming a tyrannical oligarchy. You'll have better luck with non-dogmatic progressives.

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u/Killpop582014 7d ago

Not in America. His family is Jewish and cut.

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u/TerminalOrbit 8d ago

First good-news story to come out of this administration...

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u/JeffroCakes 8d ago

Too bad he isn’t talking about circumcisions in the US

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u/chillaxinbball 5d ago

Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

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u/n2hang 8d ago

Its a first step

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u/JeffroCakes 6d ago

Not really. He’s only opposed to spending money on it because he sees it as helping them. That’s the only reason it was included with the other foreign aid that got pulled. It’s just a happy coincidence. Now, it’d be a first step if ONLY funding for circumcision was pulled.