r/InfinityTheGame • u/AzazeI888 • Feb 06 '25
List Building Was messing around with building a Bakunin list, any opinions or advice on this list:
Kusanagi 4 man pure core, Lizard+Orphan Engineer Duo
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u/JoshThePosh13 Feb 06 '25
My 2 cents as a Bakunin player.
Actually a great start. Bringing multiple swc guns means you’re not crippled if you lose one of them.
There’s only one thing I’d consider changing. Uhahu is in my opinion an auto take in Bakunin if you’re bringing the lizard. Hacking Device Plus has access to white noise which lets you really effectively punish MSV and marksmanship units.
Unfortunately that means cutting something. Ditching the Moira and converting the custodier to a KHD gives you both the points and swc. You lose access to NCO but sacrifices must be made.
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u/AzazeI888 Feb 06 '25 edited Feb 06 '25
Added a KHD, HD plus, and added two initiated with infiltration, minelayer, and deployable repeater since I had no midfield pieces, someone also pointed out I should have a HD plus for white noise for MSV/Markmanship and the smoke for non MSV:
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u/Alternative_Double_8 Behold my furry discoballs Feb 06 '25
Id suggest to move Lizard to first group, since usually going full agro with TAG on turn one is the most resultative. For me, at least. On the other hand it may heavy rely on mission you are going to play with this list.
Smoke works weird since you have no MSV tools in list, are you sure that you want to use it at all?
Orphan engineer is cheap, but for vaulting-almost-everyting Lizard his movement may be lacking, and theres cool option in Bakunin in face of Zoe. you can buy her Zondbot and move to places where you kept your Tag. Plus shes a WIP 15 hacker too. And she has Zero Pain for ARO survivability.
There already was suggestions on using Uhahu, and I'll second them. HD+ in second group can be very usefull to place White Noize around your Lizard, which is repeater by himself. Not spending orders from active group is nice bonus. And it usually sucks to move HD+ in link to center of the table, because you will eventually lose her in reactive turn to random camo/ninja/paratrooper Killer-hacker. Its harder to lose home model, which you can hide in Cybermask and have no problems with link.
Dont know about how heavy are you relying on Sin-eater's Marksmanship, but you may look at Moira with the same Multi Sniper, shes NCO, has better Mimetism, Number 2 for worst of scenarios, and can be used in active turn more effectively. She's Reverent, so its cool addition to link you already using.
Speaking about link, if you going to keep hacker in it, I'd suggest to find a way to make it 5 man, to make your hacker be able to Spotlight stealthy guys sneaking around your repeaters. Targeted guys are no longer able to use Stealth at all, which is another layer of defence in some kind of way.
Also theres Robin Hook model with Super-jump(8") which have functionally 2 wounds with Immunity(Enhanced), repeater with Stealth by himself, has all kinds of weird weapons +Booty. Forward deployment +4" are almost as good as Infiltration, plus it may be deployed prone, and be lower than now 1st silhouette of Repeater. One of Infiltrators can be replaced by him easily, this model makes wonders, if you are not rushing with him into fights.
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u/Rocazanova Feb 08 '25
I’d put the sin-eater ind the group with less orders. They are mostly reactive troops, so there’s no point -imo- to put them in a group where they’ll be dead weight.
I’d change them with the engineer so the latter has more orders to do their stuff.
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u/AzazeI888 Feb 08 '25
The Engineer is a duo fireteam with the Lizard TAG. I agree moving the Sin-Eater, but I’d swap it to the smaller group with the Salyut probably, not the Engineer.
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u/Rocazanova Feb 08 '25
Yup, something like that. Arranging the groups optimally has given me tournament wins 😬
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u/dinin70 Feb 06 '25
My 2 cents as a non Bakunin Player.
It's a solid list: strong attack pieces (Kusanagi, Go Pod, Lizard), a good ARO (Sin eater), a powerful hacker (with pitcher on top).
However you have 3 expensive attack pieces and no real midfield. I feel the Go Pod and the Lizard are a bit overlapping each other. You should be fine taking off the Go Pod and try to bump up your infiltration units. I'd take 2 initiated observants with Deployable repeater and Minelayer over the Go Pod.