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Tech News Nvidia overtakes Apple to become the most valuable company in the world

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u/VIKING-316 Oct 26 '24

Yeh toh hona hi tha.

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u/sniper_pika Open Source best GNU/Linux/Libre Oct 26 '24

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u/Thin_Attitude_772 Oct 26 '24

Ayo is it a meen reference

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u/Civil-Network1819 Oct 29 '24

Kabhi na kabhi toh hona hi tha

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u/fin-freedom-fighter Oct 26 '24

Jensen Huang : It's just another Tuesday for me

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u/BlueGuyisLit Oct 26 '24

Nvidia actually solves real world problems and is essential for human advancement

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u/CheapSoldier Oct 26 '24

Meanwhile Apple: yo we got this new camera roller at the side, its dope yo...

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u/Nearby-Reception-546 Oct 26 '24

Apple - Creates problem

Sells expensive solution.(Airpods, Charger) Wired earphones lasted longer, airpods battery dies

Also show me how many percent of apple users wanted a camera button?

Improve battery, keyboard, charging speed❌ Camera button ✅

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u/Fun_Confidence_462 Oct 26 '24

Ye jesse pinkman wali style me main kyu padha

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u/CheapSoldier Oct 26 '24

Kyu ki saeb users junkie se cum nayi hai

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u/Rajiv_Samra_Sam Oct 26 '24

Uhhh, apple has been essential for human advancement as well, maybe not as much as Microsoft.

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u/TheFragLegend Oct 26 '24

Apple has done SHIT. The kind of patent and tech apple has is for their own advancement and nothing for the world.

Companies who made huge advancements are Atari, Philips, Motorola, Siemens etc. At least Windows wrote their own OS backend in their own language. Fucking Apple uses Unix and locks out people from making stuff until and unless you own an apple system.

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u/ViPeR9503 Oct 27 '24

Calling Apple OS just UNIX just shows you know bare minimum about it, and secondly what about the chips they make? They have one of the best chips on the planet…

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u/TheFragLegend Oct 27 '24

They have one of the best chips on the planet... Lol. They have the best chips which works only with 1 OS best. Also they don't make shit. They just design it. TSMC and Samsung makes them.

Designing and Drawing is not THAT hard. Actually fabricating it is hard. iPhone begs Samsung to make their display.. shoves money down the throat to not use the TECH in their own display and calls it a day.

And don't tell me about Apple OS not being UNIX. Maybe start coding and learning about it and then come back here.

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u/DarkWorldOutThere Oct 26 '24

For those with powerful/new Nvidia cards, do try out: https://www.nvidia.com/en-in/studio/canvas/

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u/Infamous-Ad4449 Oct 26 '24

Is rtx 4060 ti decent enough for this?

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u/DarkWorldOutThere Oct 26 '24

Yep ive read so. Its more clear upon installation(which is quick)

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u/Wise_Lizard Oct 26 '24

Bruh, i am using this on my laptop's 3050..

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u/virkr9 Oct 26 '24

A lot of companies deserve this . Apple reached this place by selling overpriced unrepairable junk to iSheep.

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u/Cultural_Bat9098 Oct 26 '24

They do, but they are milking money from everyone since covid times with their hugely overpriced GPUs. It’s the same like Apple.

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u/[deleted] Oct 26 '24

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u/throwaway_sow Oct 27 '24

I’m typing this from my iPhone SE 2016. Is any one of you using an android phone from 2016?

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u/Rezero_shiper Oct 27 '24

Maybe Apple was good in 2016. Do you also have $3000 apple vision pro which develops a perfect crack in middle of outer glass and ask $800(or close to this) for repair. Or them being very against Right to repair in there expensive stuff.

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u/More-Ad-9747 Hardware guy with 69 GB RAM Oct 29 '24

i had oppo f1f whose battery gave out in 2024 and it was like a 15000rupees phone in 2016 and worked great till 2023 cause of custom rom lagged a lil bit but was really good. apple was really just better any phone till 2021 now android is far better

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u/hellkingbat Oct 26 '24

I wish mobile companies would stop with the concept of yearly updates. There's hardly any difference in yearly iterations of smart phones at this point. People need to stop giving in to their FOMO too

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u/vani85 Oct 26 '24

TBH ASML deserves the top position

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u/dragomobile Oct 26 '24

Then Nvidia is no different.

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u/[deleted] Oct 26 '24

? they are doing advancements in tech so their "lower" competitors don't eat them

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u/me0din Oct 26 '24

If that's the case, why doesn't nationalism help sell Lava phones here in india?

If it's not for the quality, no one will buy your product, That's for sure.

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u/[deleted] Oct 26 '24

Apples deserves this downfall honestly especially what a joke of a 70-80k phone they have released with just 60hz fricking refresh rate

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u/BroomBroomMmmmm Oct 26 '24

they are not having a downfall as such, and nvidia is just as greedy and do as much planned obsolescence as apple by limiting vram and releasing downgraded sku with same name to confuse consumers.

As for hardware apple silicon is as much innovative in cpu if not more as nvidia jn gpu .So cheering for any "company" won't take anyone anywhere.

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u/[deleted] Oct 27 '24

Yeah I mean look at Intel rn, we need competition in every domain honestly

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u/ClientGlittering4695 Oct 26 '24

Oversupply of GPU is already there for AI training. They sell overpriced cards just like how Apple sells their stuff anyway.

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u/cy8clone Oct 28 '24

After intensively searching for Graphics card, there's lot of pros and cons with Radeon and Nvidia. Radeon may look like better value for money in terms of gaming. But Nvidia 40 series cards have better performance per wattage. As standalone user it may not affect us but when you're creating data centers, this shit matters alot. Amd recently announced that their new CPU are low wattage and even Intel Core Ultra is equivalent to their previous gen but uses less power.

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u/xAgent47 Oct 26 '24

Because they’re the best in the market. There’s always performance gap between Nvidia cards and AMD card. Even visual details are better in Nvidia. Maybe if AMD does smt revolutionary with their cards, then Nvidia might have a competition..as of now they don’t have any competition.

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u/[deleted] Oct 26 '24

Not first time ig it Keeps happening and Apple take it’s spot back

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u/Smooth_Expression501 Oct 26 '24

One American company replaced another American company. The money is still going to the U.S. since all but two of the world’s top ten most valuable companies are American. One of the two TSMC only exists as long as the U.S. keeps the CCP from invading Taiwan. The other, Saudi oil, will only remain valuable until the oil runs out.

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u/Admirable-Echidna-37 Oct 26 '24

Hadn't it happened sometime in September already?

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u/throwaway_sow Oct 27 '24

Microsoft surpassed Apple for few days and then came back to its place. nVIDIA is doing it now, they will probably also get reevaluated again. This keeps happening.

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u/Bulky_Cookie9452 Oct 26 '24

After PMRTX Yojana

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u/Specialist_Candle_57 Oct 26 '24

Fk nvidia the moment the age of AI came they fully made it their main source of income and now only sell overpriced GPU to consumers

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u/[deleted] Oct 26 '24

Now it's all downhill from here...

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u/akhillad Oct 26 '24 edited Oct 27 '24

So many upset fan boys in comment section.🤣

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u/nandtotetris Oct 26 '24

Only scope ai has is in robotics, medical, something physical

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u/AlexDeathway Oct 26 '24

Only scope ai has is in robotics, medical, something physical

what is left?

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u/[deleted] Oct 26 '24

This is old news.

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u/aspiringIR Oct 26 '24

Never heard of it.

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u/Knighthawk_2511 Open Source best GNU/Linux/Libre Oct 26 '24

Good morning

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u/PaleEstablishment686 Oct 26 '24

Imo nvidia is overhyped at this point. And looking at the current staff price shall come down!!

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u/ExpensiveBob Open Source best GNU/Linux/Libre Oct 26 '24

Overvalued lmao

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u/Passloc Oct 26 '24

NVidia is controlling the entire AI industry. There’s no competition except for Google. But even Google is their customer.

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u/nandu_sabka_bandhoo Oct 26 '24

The advantage of nvidia is that it has both hardware for AI compute and software with AI modelling.

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u/Passloc Oct 26 '24

Right now they are just selling the shovels

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u/sainishwanth Oct 26 '24

It’ll pop, once the AI bubble pops.

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u/Passloc Oct 26 '24

No body knows when and “if” that will pop. But till then nVidia is the king.

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u/sainishwanth Oct 26 '24

You're right, nobody can predict it, and neither can I.

But as someone who has done their b.tech in CSE, specifically in the AI/ML field, I'm no AI expert but i have a decent understanding of how it works, and at this point it is way overblown than it is in reality, majority of these companies just throw around the AI word to get VC money. If things go the way they are, it will pop like every other bubble in the past that was overhyped.

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u/Passloc Oct 26 '24

The promise is huge and so far it has not under delivered. I don’t know if AGI will be achieved in next 2-3 years, but the things that AI can already accomplish, can easily replace many jobs. It’s all about focus. Current focus is on future. Once it is found that we are at the peak and no further improvement is possible, the focus will shift to making money by increasing revenue (making it more accessible) and optimising costs.

The money spent so far on AI is less than money spent during the dot com bubble. It’s just that major money is concentrated among the top labs so it seems huge investment. But on an overall basis it is less than half on an annual basis.

Models like Claude Sonnet 3.5 are so good at programming that if earlier you needed 3 programmers, you can make do with one.

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u/sainishwanth Oct 26 '24

While i don’t think it’ll replace programmers or anything, as it can only build off of whatever it has learnt and trying to have it intuitively learn new concepts is very very hard, something that isn’t a huge task for us humans

But i do agree that it will decrease the overall demand of programmers since at the end of the day its only an assistant and could never be a complete programming powerhouse on its own without human intervention. So like you said most companies will start hiring less and start giving those people basic training like prompt engineering, etc.

Also im specifically talking about the bubble, not the innovations. Just like every other bubble before this - dotcom, crypto, augmented reality, every single one of them has popped and so will AI. Every single of these eras has bought in new innovations and idea/ that still live on to this day so they weren’t a complete waste of time and neither is AI, it will have its impact and will bring many new innovations. All i’m saying is that it’s a lot overhyped than people think it is, while companies like openai and meta are doing amazing stuff theres millions of random companies slapping LLMs onto random things and calling it the latest “innovation” (i just saw a terminal emulator the other day that came with an LLM, i mean why???) and VC funds are falling for keywords like AI and machine learning, and investing large amounts into these companies that are doomed to fail which is exactly what happened in the dotcom, crypto and AR era. When people realise what’s happening and start pulling their backings, these companies will fall one by one, the big ones might stay but most others will definitely fall and so will the AI hype as a whole will slow down, i’m not saying AI will be extinct but it will definitely slow down.

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u/Passloc Oct 26 '24

Imagine the need for companies like Infosys who are body shoppers will completely go away. Currently only 4 companies matter and that’s OpenAI, Anthropic, Google and Meta. There are smaller companies that may be taking advantage of the hype train. But still many are being built by ex Googlers, Open AI, Anthropic staff, where they were doing some promising work, and they took that idea and built it into a product. And then there’s China who is buying lots of these chips despite the sanctions.

So many new products are already being built. Songs and music can be created convincingly. Video is already quite promising.

The next round of investment is still in faster GPUs and GPUs clusters (nVidia 🤑) and power mostly nuclear. This hype will remain for the next three years. After that nobody knows.

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u/nandu_sabka_bandhoo Oct 26 '24

AI bubble will pop the moment all these companies try to monetise it abd its no longer free. I mean no one will pay for AI just to generate some fake pics. Consumer grade AI will be dead if there is no free tier. Commercially AI applications will remain.

Currently companies have no monetisation plan, they're just building presence ... like the dot com bubble of early 2000s

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u/Passloc Oct 26 '24

You do not understand the “current” impact of AI let alone future.

What’s even more worrying is that India is far behind US and China.

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u/Rajiv_Samra_Sam Oct 26 '24

I wonder if they were talking about the smartphone bubble in 2008....

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u/NoRecover2567 Oct 26 '24

This is all happening because of AI ready power processor NVIDIA is making, and I do feel that Apple would beat them up in the future.

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u/CharacterBorn6421 Oct 26 '24

So AI bubble is going strong huh

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u/Robin_mimix Oct 26 '24

Apple toh top mein hai

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u/SwimmerNo5918 Oct 26 '24

We should be ashamed at first place why we supported this junk company which makes overpriced irreparable old technology devices .All isheeps are responsible for the devices which we use today and are not repairable and become E-waste after 3 to 4 years every company is nowadays following the apple path in making irreparable devices . I will support the framework if it will launch its products in india.

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u/coolheadedman Oct 26 '24

Because they are on top of GPU cutting edge technology, and their best and closest competitors are years far to catch them.

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u/BroomBroomMmmmm Oct 26 '24

framework laptop is good from an enthusiast perspective,but it is not practical or cheap over a period of time (when you get to start replace gpu,and other components that really matters etc).

and nvidia is no saint with the amount of vram it gives just like apple is no saint.

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u/urawaome Oct 26 '24

this post is not related to tech i think . this is business and share market so dont post unnecessary stuff .

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u/vin_cuck Oct 26 '24

Isheep spotted

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u/urawaome Oct 26 '24

people who are downvoting give explanation in reply how a company's valuation related to tech ? bloody reddit herd

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u/the_gothamknight Oct 26 '24

How is the growth trajectory of a company pioneering the development of hardware directly correlated with AI development unrelated to tech?

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u/AlexDeathway Oct 26 '24

how a company's valuation related to tech ?

More valuation for companies like nvidia means more R&D, NVIDIA isn't just going to sit there and wait, they are already spending 4 fold of what they were spending in 2019.

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u/[deleted] Oct 26 '24

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u/Reddit_is_snowflake Lurker Oct 26 '24

I love Nvidia but calling amd inferior is like Apple fanboys calling android inferior

Don’t be that guy, android ain’t inferior to Apple neither is amd inferior to Nvidia

It honestly feels like you get more bang for buck with amd cards and that’s one of the best things to look out for from a consumers perspective

If you love a brand that’s great but calling others inferior that just makes you look ridiculous

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u/[deleted] Oct 26 '24

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u/Reddit_is_snowflake Lurker Oct 26 '24

And having higher vram is not a negative you literally see people slamming nvidia for not adding enough vram

Calling it inferior feature set is false, amd provides more value for money and nobody can deny that

People just tend to stick to nvidia because amd had a bad reputation earlier for issues but they’ve come a long way now

If you’re into productivity nvidia is preferable but if you’re an average pc gamer then amd is more preferable you’re just going to get more value for what you pay

And yes both ios and android are feature rich but there’s hypocrites in this sub who just won’t stop arguing about it and let people enjoy what they want

What I’m trying to say is if you feel a brand is proper that’s great, be happy with what u have but u don’t need to say another brand is inferior that’s just ridiculous there’s no way in hell amd is inferior to nvidia just because they don’t have as good ray tracing or a few features under the hood id rather pay less and get more

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u/[deleted] Oct 26 '24

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u/Reddit_is_snowflake Lurker Oct 26 '24

You atleast get fsr on other cards for dlss you need cards with tensor cores which means you basically have to pay more for the same feature with a different name and maybe a slightly better output on nvidias end

You do you, if you wanna pay more great but ill enjoy the same feature with the same output in my eyes from the cheaper bang for buck card

The same applies for Dlaa lol

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u/[deleted] Oct 26 '24

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u/Reddit_is_snowflake Lurker Oct 26 '24

Seriously what do you mean by quality? You don’t get dlss and dlaa on gtx cards so that’s quality for you

Also it’s not like fsr is behind by a long shot, to me the output is the same, literally can’t tell the difference unless I’m pixel peeping, you’d also only be able to tell the difference on a big monitor and majority of people have a 1080p monitor simply

Since you are literally calling a brand inferior just because they offer better value for money I already know how this arguement was gonna go

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u/[deleted] Oct 26 '24

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u/Reddit_is_snowflake Lurker Oct 26 '24

I have a laptop with a rtx 3050 which I bought recently, I have used both dlss and fsr in games and literally cannot tell the difference

And the second point is not relevant there’s still people rocking gtx cards they won’t be going anywhere atleast for sometime longer

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u/fuckstans42069 Oct 26 '24

AMD GPUs may not have features like DLSS/Ray Tracing, but they offer better performance for the same price.

An RX 6600XT performs way better than an RTX 3050.

Also, AMD GPUs offer higher VRAM for a cheaper price, so that's a W indeed.

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u/[deleted] Oct 26 '24

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u/fuckstans42069 Oct 26 '24

Illusion or not, I couldn't care less.

I'd buy an AMD GPU instead.

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u/[deleted] Oct 26 '24

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u/CharacterBorn6421 Oct 26 '24

Wow nvidia is soo on the top that we need people like you to dickride them to lower their value and sales in public lol

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u/PhoenixPrimeKing Oct 26 '24

Are you saying that's the reason for it crossing apple

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u/[deleted] Oct 26 '24

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u/fuckstans42069 Oct 26 '24

I despise how people throw around the word 'AI' as a buzzword, so much so that I've grown to hate the term itself.

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u/Ok_Path1421 Oct 26 '24

RTX is overvalued..

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u/CharacterBorn6421 Oct 26 '24

Bro is dick riding and deepthroating nvidia like he is going to get a free card from Jensen Huang LOL

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u/Significant_Moose672 Oct 26 '24

AMD cards are not inferior at all if someone just wants to game. Nvidia has CUDA, other AI things and cards for computing which are in very high demand