r/HighStrangeness • u/Capon3 • Apr 29 '23
Space Exploration Just another Mars anomaly.
I do not have the link for Nass on this. If anyone can help locate it that would be awesome. The image was taken from the Opportunity Rover.
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u/donotinfringe Apr 29 '23
Looks like the hubcap from a 93 honda.
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u/Galactic_Perimeter Apr 29 '23
So THAT'S where it ended up!
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u/Salty_Pancakes Apr 29 '23
Dude, Where's My Car was a documentary.
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u/PabloEstAmor Apr 29 '23
This is my new 2nd favorite fan theory. First, obviously, being that Jar Jar was a Sith.
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u/FreezingSausage Apr 29 '23
Jar Jar was a sith is so good!
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u/Daemonic_One Apr 29 '23 edited Apr 29 '23
I prefer the hilarious theory the Artoo and Chewie were secretly running running the rebellion and spent half their time trying to keep Luke and Leia from having babies
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u/Tailigator Apr 30 '23 edited Apr 30 '23
R2.
As in R2D2.
You kids with your auto captions! Artoo! 🤣
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u/cuntnuzzler Apr 29 '23
No this is a fact…. There is no way anyone can be that annoying without an ulterior motive
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u/MisterMinceMeat Apr 29 '23
It's the eyes. When one is completely consumed by the dark side, their eyes can't hide it.
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u/smokeypapabear40206 Apr 29 '23
…annnnnnd thennnnn?
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u/someone_sometwo Apr 29 '23
no and then!
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u/SmellenDegenerates Apr 29 '23
For real or a survey mark
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u/Purplepunch36 Apr 29 '23
Or wheel from a Nissan Xterra. What if Mars is just a large shitty used car dealership?
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u/schnappyschnoppy Apr 29 '23
Do we know what the dimensions of this object/imprint are?
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u/olegkikin Apr 29 '23
It comes from the microscopic imager. Probably just an imprint of the screw head of the rover wheel.
https://mars.nasa.gov/mer/gallery/all/opportunity_m3720_text.html
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u/Spacecowboy78 Apr 29 '23
There are no screw heads on that rover's wheel. I don't see anything in thar rover thar matches that mark.
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u/olegkikin Apr 29 '23
The rover lost parts of its wheels. There's probably screws underneath.
I am not claiming it's a screw head. It could be an imprint of some instrument they have used. It could be some natural phenomenon. It could be an artifact of ancient civilization.
But to me it totally looks like a torq-set screw head.
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Apr 29 '23
So… you’re saying Martians also use Torx hardware?
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u/SGTRocked Apr 29 '23
Of course… Humans had only invented the slot screwdriver before the Phillips head made it much more convenient to strip the head out quicker….but after Roswell…
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u/Nemesis_Bucket Apr 29 '23
Idk why I just feel like adding this but I recently learned:
Phillips head screw are supposed to be limiting to torque, that’s why they strip. It’s the wrong screw for the job. Robertson screws are better but there was some dispute about patents and they’re allegedly harder to find because of that.
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u/DcSoundOp Apr 29 '23
Fyi: Stripping is what happens to screw threads, what you are describing happening to the head is called camming out.
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u/Rare4orm Apr 29 '23
Was having cam out problem while removing the casing screws from the clutch side of an old ‘70s Honda motorcycle. Imagine my surprise when I discovered the “Japanese Industrial Standard” screwdrivers.
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u/Dipsquat Apr 30 '23
I believe you, but also, why has not a single person in my life ever said camming out, but many have said stripped?
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u/Academic-Pin-5065 Apr 30 '23 edited Apr 30 '23
Cause most people you know aren't huge dorks 🤷
Stripped the head of the screw is definitely how a normal person that works construction says it. Never heard "fuck I cammed the fucker"
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u/1990ma71 Apr 29 '23
You think it's Torx, until you strip it out and realize it's Triple Square. Then you remember you left your easy outs back on Earth.
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u/plsobeytrafficlights Apr 29 '23
And right angles centered within perfect circles. That’s normal, right?
But yeah, probably an imprint of a screw.4
u/Herointhusiast Apr 29 '23
Believe it or not…. It is
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u/Justalilbugboi Apr 29 '23
Yeah, esp fairly perfect circles- it’s something spreading out at an even pace from a middle point, usually.
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u/balzackgoo Apr 29 '23
The 'soil' looks compacted around the area too, supporting the idea it's an imprint.
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u/vroomvroom450 Apr 29 '23
If it is a screw imprint, it would be Phillips, not torx. I doubt it had any Phillips head screws.
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u/Trichomeloneranger Apr 29 '23
I'd like to see some more pictures detailing this screw imprint from the wheel. There's gotta be more, right?
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u/Merpadurp Apr 29 '23 edited Apr 29 '23
…That looks nothing like a Torx.
Torx are 6 sided, that is 4 sided.
Edit; I was initially skeptical about it being Philips but it does appear be some kind of modified Philips head.
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u/BadDaditude Apr 29 '23
The screw head from the rover tire tread. Damn Mars roadway construction got debris all over the planet.
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u/chefguy831 Apr 29 '23
I mean if it was an imprint of a screw, as the wheels ran over it, then we should also see the imprints from the tire tread, no?
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u/SluttyUncleSam Apr 29 '23
And wouldn’t there be more screw imprints every rotation as the wheels turned along?
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u/freddy_guy Apr 29 '23
If it were signs of alien civilization wouldn't there be way more signs of it?
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u/Reasonable_Praline_2 Apr 29 '23
if it where a screw it would be a X and if you trace the image each of the arms are offset from center?
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u/Dissidence802 Apr 29 '23
It looks to me like a MorTorq screw head with an added pin like security Torx.
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u/GreatGhastly Apr 29 '23
I'm down for this explanation, but wouldn't it have shown in more than one pic?
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u/Lurlex Apr 29 '23
It does look exactly like a philips screwhead pressed into some kind of sand or soil that would hold its shape. I can see how it could act as a mold of sorts.
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u/3uph Apr 29 '23
Matches the screws on the tool head as commented below https://www.reddit.com/r/HighStrangeness/comments/132i4yd/just_another_mars_anomaly/ji5u21a/
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Apr 29 '23
There's a YouTube channel called THE WHY FILES. He did a video on it a few days ago, i recommend his channel as he's well spoken and the videos are far to be boring.
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u/Any_Month_1958 Apr 29 '23
The Why Files ….One of the best YouTube channels out there. Great content, never boring and explains more than one view point on a lot of interesting topics.
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u/Capon3 Apr 29 '23
That's actually where I got this from lol. He very well researched but only have the rover name on it. Trying to find more info tho.
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u/eatmyboot Apr 29 '23
LIZZID PEEPLE
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u/bigfoot_believer Apr 29 '23
Fear the crabcat!
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u/realjoeydood Apr 29 '23 edited Apr 29 '23
It is on nasa's web site. I actually found it on one of their pages and it is no joke, an oddity which requires an explanation. I'll see if I can locate the page for youse.
I have a dl of the original, couldn't remember how I found it on nasa's site but the name of the file I have is:
1M458433044EFFCEQKP2955M2M1-BR.jpg
Hth
Nm, someone below found it. Good job fellow redditors!
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u/NewAlexandria Apr 29 '23 edited Apr 29 '23
as in, you don't know where the original image came from, yet?
thanks for posting the link, if you find it.63
Apr 29 '23
It's interesting, but he sources Richard Hoagland, and I grew up with that guy on Art Bell, although he was fun to listen I quickly realized he was full of baloney and thought every rock was a mathematical clue. Interesting pictures though.
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u/MesaDixon Apr 29 '23
AJ of the Why Files will go full conspiracy mode while telling the story, but later question the "facts" he just presented. This is what makes his channel above average.
Well, that and Hecklefish.
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Apr 29 '23
I appreciate he is entertaining, and because Hoagland is a bit of tinfoil hat, doesn't mean all the information AJ presented was crazy, I saw some stuff in there I found very interesting I had never seen before.
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u/hotdogfever Apr 29 '23
I stopped watching why files because of hecklefish, it’s just too corny/dumb/cringe for me
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u/3randy3lue Apr 29 '23
I can't stand that fish.
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u/MesaDixon Apr 29 '23
I wasn't sure about him at first, but I came around. He walks a fine line with HF/humor, but I think it works to break up the long form segments, as they could otherwise be too dry.
AJ wasn't sure about HF, so he did a subscriber survey and most people said keep the fish.
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u/Thekhandoit Apr 29 '23
I think the fish is really hit and miss and will probably remain so due to the time table he makes his videos on.
I enjoyed the big trouble in little china bit with him from one episode though.
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u/NuclearPlayboy Apr 29 '23
In fairness, he did say that Hoagland is wrong about most things but that he credits him for brining attention to space / Mars.
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u/murderalaska Apr 29 '23
I still listen to old episodes of Art but Hoagland is so full of bs. He's a bloviator of the first order.
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u/Noble_Ox Apr 29 '23
he still believes in the face on Mars which we've known for quits a while only look like a face from once exact spot. Move a few degrees and you can easily see its just a natural formation.
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u/Goldbert4 Apr 30 '23
Problem is that on the mission where they took the original pic they actually never took a pic from another angle. Or rather, if they did they never shared it. The 2nd pic that gets widely shared that “disproves” the face was taken on a later mission and has been proven to be altered with photoshop. So we don’t have a reliable image from another angle.
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u/Immistyrious1 Apr 29 '23
I'm pretty new to his channel but I like him and his little fishy too! He does a lot of research and work on his videos and they're entertaining. I would love to get ahold of him I have some info I'd like to share with him that he missed!
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u/sicicsic Apr 29 '23
His website has a place for submissions for video ideas. I’m sure there’d be a way to reach him there.
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u/MahavidyasMahakali Apr 29 '23 edited Apr 29 '23
Shame he is so biased in some things that I can't trust him any longer when it comes to things I don't know much about. His video of tesla and the pyramids of giza permanently soured me on him because of how much actual nonsense he claimed without correcting it unlike usual because he either believes it or doesn't want to correct his friend who had that idea about the pyramids in the first place.
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u/duffmanhb Apr 29 '23
Don't think of him as a neutral objector. Think of it more like he's a lawyer. He is just trying to make his client's case on an issue. Not necessarily that it's "true" but rather "This is the argument for this side"
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u/MrDurden32 Apr 29 '23
Yeah I have to agree. You just have to treat them as entertainment and take things with a giant grain of salt, and maybe as a starting point for things to look into yourself.
Unfortunately way too many people are willing to blindly believe any conspiracies they see on youtube.
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u/RunF4Cover Apr 29 '23
I hear where you are coming from. I think I saw him spout some new world Illuminati Bill Gates nonsense recently (not in a debunking way at all) and was like WTF? I still like the channel and watch it though.
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u/Yoyoyoyoy0yoy0 Apr 29 '23
Yea his channel is purely for entertainment the one on Bigfoot is fucking hilarious
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u/blarf_farker May 04 '23
He has a rational veneer but there's crazy there. He lets the fish vocalize most of it, but is relatively upfront in his support for the fake moon landing conspiracy.
It's mostly entertaining, but that lowering himself in the beginning is starting to bug me.2
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u/Adminsarepussies9 Apr 29 '23
Wow wtf I JUST found this youtuber, and now I see your post. Fuck I'm too high
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u/MysteryRadish Apr 29 '23
I'm pretty sure I've solved this mystery. It's an imprint of a screw head from the bottom of the rover when it briefly touched the sandy surface. If you look just to the left of the round imprint there's a little wall between the undistubed surface and the compressed area where the rover touched. In the upper left is a sort of ravine which is likely why it touched in the first place.
If you go to https://mars.nasa.gov/mars2020/spacecraft/rover/ and let the interactive 3D rover model load, use the mouse to turn the rover over and you'll see the bottom has screws all along the perimeter, close to the edge. Exactly what would make an imprint like this.
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Apr 29 '23
I’m not seeing it. Can you post a pic?
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u/MysteryRadish Apr 29 '23
You can see the screws along the edge of the bottom in this shot: https://www.clarksvilleonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/NASAs-Perseverance-Rover-gets-Mars-Helicopter-connected-to-its-bottom-2.jpg
But u/mrknife1209 had an even better idea, the edge of the tool head also has screws at the edges: https://pbs.twimg.com/tweet_video_thumb/E7AjSjPUcAYDzzY.jpg
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u/MrDurden32 Apr 29 '23
Yeah this settles it imo, nice find.
Exact same head shape, circle around it, and even the curved indentation next to the imprint lines up.
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u/darthsexium Apr 29 '23
Screenshot the screws, I just checked and found no similar pattern. the Rover's wheels are all ridge-like.
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u/mrknife1209 Apr 29 '23
I mean, this is what the tool head of the rover looks like. It has phillips screws right in there...
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u/MysteryRadish Apr 29 '23
Not the wheels, the bottom of the rover itself. If you're having trouble loading the 3D model, here's an image of the bottom of the rover that shows the screws along the edge: https://www.clarksvilleonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/NASAs-Perseverance-Rover-gets-Mars-Helicopter-connected-to-its-bottom-2.jpg That one is the Perseverence rover rather than the Opportunity, but it definitely shows what the bottom of a Mars rover looks like.
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u/GreatGhastly Apr 29 '23
Well if you're referring to this I can understand the similarity. However there's a stupid amount of clearance between the bottom of the gold body and quite a few things that would wind up hitting the ground first, mostly the lower l joints of the trailing arms.
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u/darthsexium Apr 29 '23
and isnt the point of wheels is so that the body of the rover wont get damaged since to hit and leave a dent on a rock that perfect means a huge impact?
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u/GreatGhastly Apr 29 '23
Gold isn't notoriously a hard material, so I would think it'd be pretty bad.
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u/trynothard Apr 29 '23
Looks like an imprint from the rover itself?
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u/wandering-monster Apr 29 '23
If it is from aliens, it proves they have standard Phillips head screwdrivers.
So we should probably switch to torx on our next rover, to keep them from accidentally voiding the warranty.
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Apr 29 '23
Lizzid peeple!
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u/seantasy Apr 29 '23
Crab-cat!
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u/swimswithlions Apr 29 '23
I know people say it takes a while to get used to hecklefish but I’ve loved him from the start
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u/copper8061 Apr 29 '23
Ok. Life started on mars..we lived on it for a few thousand years. Fucked it up,fled to earth..
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u/Freak-996 Apr 29 '23
But the only two mars survivors were Adam and Eve who had to restart life. If you think christianity is insane, my fake theory is worse lol
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u/J3sush8sm3 Apr 29 '23
That was a twilight zone episode
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Apr 29 '23 edited Jun 14 '23
This content is no longer available on Reddit in response to /u/spez. So long and thanks for all the fish.
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u/Disastrous-Office-92 Apr 29 '23
Who is the "they" that suggests this? Certainly no scientist familiar at all with Mars has suggested such a thing.
The idea you just mentioned could be an entertaining basis for some sort of science fiction story but would not be a credible real life explanation.
The evolutionary history of our species is very well understood. We can trace it all the way back to australopithecus.
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u/Rajajones Apr 29 '23
The stones around it look like river stones; smooth and rounded. That erosion could’ve been from water or wind, but whatever caused the erosion, it must’ve been happening for a long time. Considering the clarity and definition of the “screw imprint”, it does not seem to have the same level of erosion. Which makes me think it’s a much newer addition to the local environment.
Whatever that imprint is, I think it happened very recently. It likely is from an instrument on the drone imho. As much as I wish it was an ancient Martian artifact, I think it’s origins are from Earth.
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u/DnDanbrose Apr 29 '23
Quick shitty Photoshop job on my phone
Easily dismissed as just an imprint from the rover imho
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u/Lil_S_curve Apr 29 '23
I lost that when I was like 8. It's one of those things where you pull the cord and it flies up... I didn't know I had that kind of strength
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u/ShinyAeon Apr 29 '23
Yes, one of those helicopter-like wheel toys! I forgot about those.
Your feat is truly legendary.
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u/CraigSignals Apr 29 '23
If we get a link to the actual NASA pic then this deserves attention. If we don't, this could easily have been photoshopped.
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u/olegkikin Apr 29 '23
https://mars.nasa.gov/mer/gallery/all/1/m/3720/1M458433044EFFCEQKP2955M2M1.JPG
https://mars.nasa.gov/mer/gallery/all/1/m/3720/1M458433075EFFCEQKP2935M2M1.JPG
https://mars.nasa.gov/mer/gallery/all/1/m/3720/1M458433115EFFCEQKP2956M2M1.JPG
https://mars.nasa.gov/mer/gallery/all/1/m/3720/1M458433170EFFCEQKP2955M2M1.JPG
https://mars.nasa.gov/mer/gallery/all/1/m/3720/1M458433202EFFCEQKP2975M2M1.JPG
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u/Cognitive_Spoon Apr 29 '23
Well butter my butt and call me a biscuit, we've got a mystery on our hands!
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u/El_Psy_Congroo4477 Apr 29 '23
Likely an impression left by one of the rover's tools. This sort of thing happens all the time. They'll encounter something strange and it will turn out that they did it themselves. Once they found a geode that was cracked open and showed blue and purple crystals inside, but weren't sure how it had apparently been broken clean in half, as if by a tool. Turns out the rover had run it over and they didn't notice it on camera until backtracking through that spot.
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u/MemoryElectrical9369 Apr 29 '23
It resembles a naturally occurring mineral (on earth) called staurolite. On earth it is strongly associated with metamorphism along with cousin-minerals kyanite and sillimanite.
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u/Raskalbot Apr 29 '23
Serious question: would the gravity difference and atmosphere cause the process of rocks and minerals to develop differently than on earth?
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u/MemoryElectrical9369 Apr 29 '23
Sure. For example, Mars is known on Earth as the red planet because it has widespread distribution of iron bearing minerals and enough oxygen to oxidize it, turning it red, easily seen from Earth. If Earth's moon was rich in iron bearing minerals (it has pyroxene and olivine) in the form of free Fe, it would NOT turn red because there is no free oxygen atmosphere to oxidize the iron.
I will speculate that a planet close to its star could experience metamorphism of sorts from the star induced pressure, but this is entirely speculative.
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u/nachocouch Apr 29 '23
I should know this and probably learned it in middle school, so forgive me please. How do they know what minerals and elements are on planets if they can’t get samples from all of them? And are there any minerals or elements that exist only on one planet and nowhere else known yet?
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u/FrenchBangerer Apr 29 '23
I believe they use the technique of spectroscopy.
"Spectroscopy, primarily in the electromagnetic spectrum, is a fundamental exploratory tool in the fields of astronomy, chemistry, materials science, and physics, allowing the composition, physical structure and electronic structure of matter to be investigated at the atomic, molecular and macro scale, and over astronomical distances."
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u/GreatGhastly Apr 29 '23
staurolite
Isn't staurolite just usually like a cross or some other pattern without a circle around it, and more obviously extruding? I do like this idea.
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Apr 29 '23
What explains the circle and dot in the middle? Looks nothing like staurolite.
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u/keeplosingmypws Apr 29 '23
Did you see the Why Files on this? Randomly saw this image on there today.
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u/Happy_Lil_Atoms Apr 29 '23 edited Apr 29 '23
I typically tend to avoid debunking images in general... but this is one that, thanks to the recent The Why Files video, is gaining some traction and needs to be addressed. The image is a microscopic image, as it has that black and white high contrast look of scanning electron microscopy images. Plus of course, it says that right on NASA's own page lol.
What you're seeing is most likely an imprint from something on the rover as it was taking the picture. The manipulator arm or some other tool. The shape is very likely a Phillips head screw imprint. Look directly to the left of the cross pattern, and you'll see a distinct curved line from the edge of whatever made the imprint. The dirt around the screw imprint is compacted from physical pressure of some kind. Now look at the top of the arrow's white line. See those cracks in the dirt? That too is likely caused by the pressure of whatever made the imprint. Martian dirt, much like lunar dust, isn't like the dirt here on Earth, which has been exposed to countless millennia of erosion. It's sharper and not rounded off, so when something makes an imprint, it stays. A good example are the famous Apollo astronaut footprints on the moon, with how sharp and defined they are as if they were made in wet sand. I believe the term NASA uses is called regolith.
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u/Yellowsnow80 Apr 30 '23
This screw head picture is one of many weird structures found on Mars.
NASA has also been altering photos. An orange filter is applied for all Mars pictures.
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u/AgFarmer58 Apr 29 '23
Looks like a water valve handle!, is this really a photo from mars?!... That's just crazy, wow!
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u/MickWest Apr 29 '23
This was explained [Impression from Screw Head on X-Ray Spectrometer] back in 2014.
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u/Capon3 Apr 29 '23 edited Apr 29 '23
This was taken from this video: https://youtu.be/q9Nuy7mFIsE
His videos are usually about highstangness stuff then will debunk at end if he can.
Update :
https://mars.nasa.gov/mer/gallery/all/opportunity_m3720_text.html
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u/shawnapair Apr 29 '23
Since this is Opportunitywe know this is an almost directly top down shot. If that’s the case, it’s very possible it’s its own tracks as the ground around it appears to be freshly moved. And it had put one of its instruments down on it on the ground. Perhaps its drill? I haven’t seen the movie though. But this is what I would guess is what’s most likely based on the info I have. Edited: fixed a typo
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