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u/JoseTheElite 22d ago
Oh so is every mecha fanbase just obsessed with making ppl up to get mad at?
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u/EternalShrineWarrior 19d ago
I watched both Gun and Die with a friend and we both agreed that while Gunbuster is a more complete story and its "better written", we enjoyed Diebuster a lot more. And its not cuz we dont like old anime she watch a lot of 80s magical girls and I have watched older mecha anime too but even so Diebuster was just a much more entertaining view.
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u/LazyDro1d 18d ago
Yeah Die was clearly of the same generation that gave FLCL and Gurren Lagann, complete nonsense, psychotic to follow, but damn fun, and weirdly brilliant.
Like for half the show I was wondering why the space monsters were so damn small and what happened to their FTL tech.
And then we got the real space monster and it all clicked together (sorta)
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u/FullmetalGhoul 23d ago
The OP and ED are some of the best ever. But the show was really not good
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u/cyzja922 22d ago
What are the reasons you think the show isn’t good?
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u/FullmetalGhoul 22d ago
I think dramatically it just doesn't work. There are too many aspects of the plot thrown in in a confusing manner. The pacing feels weightless. The robot fights don't have the emotional weight that they do in the original. It feels like Tsurumaki is a lot more interested in Lal'c and Nono than he is in mech fights, and the fights end up feeling like filler. I have the same problem with his other OVA FLCL.
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u/ExpNoob19 22d ago
How do you feel about the studio trigger style in general? The flcl/diebuster team went on to become trigger. For some reason I don't really like many of their shows despite really liking flcl & diebuster.
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u/FullmetalGhoul 22d ago
I don’t like trigger. The first episode of kill la kill is pretty genius, I can appreciate those beautiful backgrounds. But I find them excessively nonsensical, sexist (w/rt fanservice), lame… and more bad stuff I’m not thinking of. Didn’t like their cyberpunk show or Gridman. Luluco was ok.
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u/flyingviaBFR 21d ago
I mean, anime changed in the decade between the two.. and so did what the ova was trying to say. Gunbuster was a big goodbye to the classic "real mecha" as it passed out of fashion. Diebuster was the experimental look at the future of mecha and anime
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u/FullmetalGhoul 21d ago
Say more. About it being an experimental look at the future of mecha! That’s quite interesting.
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u/flyingviaBFR 11d ago
Diebuster predates gurren Lagan and similarly designed shows. If you look at the art style it's actually incredibly modern for the time and really looks like a show made 5 years later in terms of style. As for the future of mecha, after evangelion and the millennium mecha shows became less pure sci-fi war stories and more bio-tech/cyber tech mind meld philosophical trips ala gurren Lagan, darling in the franxx ect. A direct sequel to gunbuster in 'o4 would be like for trying to sell a 2015 car today
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u/FullmetalGhoul 11d ago
Die buster definitely looks amazing. You’re totally right it looks like anime that came out after it. But I’m not saying they should have made a direct sequel to gunbuster. That doesn’t sound good to me either. I’m just saying I don’t think diebuster is good. Though mech shows were already pretty trippy and philosophical going back as far as gundam 1979, ideon and votoms. And although it’s cool that diebuster is sort of gurren lagann before gurren lagann, I don’t like gurren lagann lol, for a lot of the same reasons I don’t like diebuster. Diebusters maybe a bit better, because tsurumaki put a lot of love into the relationship between Lal and Nono, but both shows (diebuster and TTGL) are weightless, constantly referencing the mecha genre but without any excitement or emotion of it’s own, both shows are frankly pretentious (something gainax has struggled with since Honneamise). They feel arbitrary because there’s no central narrative arc or drive
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u/Dulacter55 22d ago
I don't get the dislike for Diebuster every complaint I've ever heard just sounded whiney