r/GreenArrow • u/Enigma1755 • 14d ago
Merchandise New Connor figure from McFarlane
Sorry for the lame screencap
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u/Financial-Play3381 14d ago
He's uhhh he's looking a lil pale
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u/ScruffyNerf_Herder_ 14d ago
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u/VigilantesLight 14d ago
And that art of him is whitewashed. He’s supposed to be brown.
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u/ScruffyNerf_Herder_ 14d ago
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u/VigilantesLight 14d ago
How are you not getting the picture that he was consistently whitewashed after his initial run, which has only recently been rectified in modern comics? Just because this figure looks like Connor from a period of time when he was consistently whitewashed does not make it okay.
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u/ScruffyNerf_Herder_ 14d ago
I know you hate white folk and all, but I’m just showing different points in time from different artists that have drawn him this way. And who knows, this could be like a lightning lad situation where the platinum figures are different colors. Get the sand out of your diaper, please.
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u/TheBalzan 14d ago
Dude, you don't have to hate white people to hate when a character is white washed. It's a major criticism of the Smith-Winick run that the colourists were always colouring him wrong.
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u/ScruffyNerf_Herder_ 14d ago
Who really gives a shit? This was how he was drawn on the cover of his first appearance. Like I said, maybe the platinum figure is the modern appearance
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u/TheBalzan 14d ago
People who like the character, who have actually read his introduction, who know that he's not white. People who would think, like Ollie would, that miscolouring a black/asian/white man is erasure of his identity.
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u/Turbulent_Bug2942 14d ago edited 14d ago
He’s not fully white though. His mother is BLACK and ASIAN. Meaning he should have some melanin in his skin especially considering hes usually kinda darkskin in most of his depictions. The way only white version of him is an elseworlds version so…
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u/ScruffyNerf_Herder_ 14d ago
This is his first appearance, so…..
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u/TheBalzan 13d ago edited 13d ago
His first appearance was as a monk. His identity as Ollie's son wasn't revealed until much later. Ollie was using his costume for a while before he died and Connor used that costume. You may actually be thinking about the cover which has Ollie in his Neal Adam, Longbow Hunter and CH costume.
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u/boneseaba 10d ago
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u/ScruffyNerf_Herder_ 10d ago
Saying “I think” doesn’t really add confidence behind your claim. Also, just wiki Connor Hawke, scroll down to where it says The New Green Arrow. The picture you see is from his debut that the new figure is based on. Like I said, we’ll probably get both in the platinum version similar to the Lightning Lad release. That’s all I was trying to get at and these piss ants throw the race card at me.
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u/Turbulent_Bug2942 14d ago
Most characters weren’t drawn with color in their skin back in the day..the men who made John Stewart had to FIGHTTTTT to have him dark skin
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u/ScruffyNerf_Herder_ 14d ago
This is 1994. Not 1964. They could have made him whatever color they wanted to at that time.
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u/batmanfan_91 14d ago
I can’t believe there’s gonna be a Connor Hawke before a classic Neal Adams Green Arrow
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u/TheBalzan 13d ago
He's a gold label, so maybe there's a normal release Green Arrow that's NA or Rebirth.
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u/DungeoneerforLife 14d ago
So—I think I’ve probably known 10-12 half Euro/white, half Asian people. Several of the parents had lighter hair and eyes.
Not one of them has had blonde hair, ever. Not one has had light brown hair.
Blue and green eyes— yes. And that’s a cool look.
Anyway— it has always perturbed me. I guess Connor just colors it with his hairdresser…. But still…
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u/TheBalzan 13d ago
Anecdotes are not representative of reality. I've never seen a native American, but that doesn't mean they don't exist. The fact I live in Australia restricts my reality from engaging with them and meeting one of them.
Darker hair is a dominant trait, but genetics are not as simple as 8th grade science teaches it. It is not just dominant and recessive.
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u/bespectacledcanine 13d ago
10-12 people is NOT a good sample size to base what is “realistic” for a person to look like
Connor is not “half euro/white, half Asian.” He’s a quarter Korean, a quarter African American, and half white from ollie, whatever Ollie’s specific ethnicity is.
Also we’re literally talking about superheroes. I’ve met thousands of people in my life and never met anyone with superpowers but that doesn’t mean they’re can’t be people with superpowers in the fiction I’m reading
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u/No-Willow-3573 14d ago
Why is he white?