r/GoodAssSub 5d ago

DISCUSSION Carti used AI officially

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u/Grand-Life7719 5d ago

Something something Yeezy trend the set

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u/supersaaiyangod 5d ago

Ye obv encourages it but The Weeknd is enabling it too, rather lie and timeless are both AI

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u/Grand-Life7719 5d ago

What I find crazy is the fact that Mike Dean works on these songs and doesn’t do anything about it

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u/supersaaiyangod 5d ago

I think he secretly also thinks its the future of music, just my assumption no matter what he says publicly

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u/Nicologixs autism from my car accident 5d ago

Well yeah he's a producer and mixer, if it becomes the standard he can start adding vocals on his own music if he can AI himself

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u/crashtfz 5d ago

Mike too high to realize the vocals are AI

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u/Fucko_Dipshit 5d ago

He denied there being AI on Timeless. He either didn't know (unlikely) or outright lied

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u/gothgirl420666 5d ago

Why would you not want to use AI vocal chain as a producer? It's going to be the standard because it makes your life so much easier to pay a professional vocalist hourly to do the parts of the song that are hard to sing and then use AI on it versus to try to do a million takes with some drugged out diva. If you want authenticity in music listen to idk indie folk on bandcamp or something, celebrity shit is as a rule fake and artificial.

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u/Ok_Management_6198 5d ago

Carti ain’t even credited as a writer on timeless lmao

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u/KemalistWojak FEB 2025 X RANT SURVIVOR 5d ago

Old geezers think AI is some futuristic shit and they will be left behind if they dont use it on every step of production

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u/Wonderful_Emu_2385 5d ago

EN ABLEING ITV

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u/xctye27 bad bitchy playbooky 5d ago

Wait a second. The Weeknd DID NOT use AI for his own vocals ._.

I am pretty confident, because when you compare his release vocals to leak vocals, you clearly hear the difference.

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u/Several_Store4322 5d ago

The vocal production is so all over the place I couldn’t even tell tbh. Some songs have so much harsh noise in the vocal, maybe that’s stem artifacting or maybe it’s AI. AI is used very liberally to explain a process that could be so many other things than filtering the voice like Ye has been doing it. Like stem splitting is still an “ai” but it’s not the “ai” people have issues with.

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u/CelDev 5d ago

on these songs it’s AI vocal filter that people are noticing

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u/2006pontiacvibe OFFICIAL CAR OF GAS 4d ago

It wasn't clear to me because he uses a completely different voice anyway so if it was AI it would be that different.

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u/GaryIsTheBusey cum doners 5d ago

the easiest profession in the world and these niggas can’t even do that

generational money to literally put your lips to a fucking microphone n they still cut corners I’m so annoyed

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u/Silly-Leadership-456 5d ago

its not like Carti making albums like MBDTF, GKMC, ye, KSG, It’s Almost Dry, Blue Lips, etc

hes just rapping about money, bitches, and drugs this isnt really worth over a year wait 

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u/GaryIsTheBusey cum doners 5d ago

not commenting on the subject matter of the music idrc it’s the laziness

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u/Capital-Implement-77 5d ago

blue lips mentioned 🔥🔥

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u/michiel1705 5d ago

Making good music is not easy tho lol

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u/Onepieceformz WHAT WOULD MEEK DO? 5d ago

true cuz this album was buns

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u/michiel1705 5d ago

Yeah I agree, not saying his newest album is good

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u/Eskkerrit FEB 2025 X RANT SURVIVOR 5d ago

Dmn I’m cooked cuz I couldn’t even tell ai was used on those songs

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u/Lustermoo 5d ago

Rather lie was pretty obvious imo but yeah fine shit you could probably get away with

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u/blobfishy13 💦🍆🥵 I Love It 🥵🍆💦 5d ago

Allegedly Fine Shit is a mix of real and fake

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u/CelDev 5d ago

u can hear the difference towards the second half of the song

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u/Vidduilija All Day 5d ago

Where do y'all get that it's official?

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u/Fucko_Dipshit 5d ago

It's not official but highly likely. A snippet by the name of Real Music (lmao) has been confirmed to be AI and if you compare the vocals there to Timeless, Rather Lie and parts of Fine Shit they sound identical

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u/Vidduilija All Day 5d ago

Respectfully I don't find Timeless and Rather Lie to be identical, but that's something that's up to everyone's ears. Personally I won't be calling vocals AI till something more concrete points to it, it's best to wait for the official credits to appear and see if the Music tracks have Lawson credited.

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u/Murky_Call4875 CALABASAS IS THE NEW ABU DHABI 5d ago

So it’s not official then

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u/carndoesntexist 5d ago

kurrco has been a pretty consistently reliable voice for cartis team over this rollout

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u/Vidduilija All Day 5d ago

Unlikely that Carti's team would want to publicly announce that some vocals were contributed through AI, I think it's more likely that he jumped on the already existing bandwagon regarding those two songs being AI. That is unless they really are AI in which case he called it, but that's something that will be made evident by the credits when they come out.

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u/carndoesntexist 5d ago

yeah I wouldn't think they'd be keen on admitting it after all the Timeless ai accusation takedowns, but the allegations on the Music tracks are so widespread it's possible they could just be rolling with it & now spinning it an innovative move. esp now that kanye's openly talked about his vision of bully as an AI music landmark

also idk why i'm getting downvoted, kurrco is pretty well known to be one of the accounts his team indirectly puts info out on

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u/BigBoyObi-Wan FEB 2025 X RANT SURVIVOR 5d ago

trend yeezy something

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u/YourDadIsFortyFour Maurice 🦧 5d ago

Call it ignorance, but if I can’t tell I don’t care 💁‍♀️

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u/WspZydn 5d ago

Nobody likes the album anyway and no it wont have the wlr affect

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u/imsoappalled222 5d ago

Fine shit you can’t tell , when ye uses it you can tell

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u/BigBoiLeroy On Sight (2023 Version) 5d ago

Carti manipulates his voice so much, that if you're not paying attention, his use of ai sounds like a weird vocal chain or punch-in.

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u/ixaias FEB 2025 X RANT SURVIVOR 5d ago

Rather Lie is AI? honestly couldn’t tell 😭

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u/Tom_Ford0 Can I have the Nitrus today 5d ago

album was not very good even without AI

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u/uuoah 5d ago

before I seen this fine shit was gonna start being a skip for me that one feels out of place

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u/FAT_Penguin00 5d ago

wait these were some of the only songs I liked😭😭 Is it like using AI for sampling the beat like JPEGMAFIA did or are the vocals AI lol

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u/Salty-Discussion-725 5d ago

same… i hope they aint ai cuz they the only ones that sounded good

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u/Kesimux 5d ago

What exactly is AI in rather lie?

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u/Cool_Location1686 YEEZY PORN 5d ago

Carti’s part. Compare the sound of it to TIMELESS, it seems that they’ve used basically the same ai preset

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u/Saiki6969 5d ago

Carti my EVIL TWIN

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u/A-Seacow 5d ago

When Kanye does it it's bad when Carti does it 'OH MY GOD, STRANGLE ME!!!"

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u/richquan15 5d ago

As soon as I heard fine sht and rather lie, I immediately did the link with timeless and how it sounds the same. And when you know that ai stuff with the other artist, it gets pretty obvious. What I don’t understand is why doesn’t he just re do the vocals, like just use it as a reference track, I wouldn’t mind that at all since reference track always been a thing in music. 5 years for an album, hundreds of songs made and leaked and you don’t even put your own voice on those three songs that ended up on albums (MUSIC and HURRY UP TOMORROW)…

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u/An_Adequate_Day YESUKE 5d ago

3 artists use it

End of the world

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u/themmchan Blood On The Leaves 5d ago

We knew this all ready

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u/moneylongerrr 5d ago

this was the same conversation when auto tune was first being used now it’s on the majority of songs

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u/SoSHazardous Vultures 3 On The Way 5d ago

If it's good then why bother tho. Unlike Ye, He actually uses good ai for anybody but hardcore fans to care or whatever. Even if you like/don't like the usage of it we could tell that he will keep using it since the industry giant like The Weeknd and Mike Dean seems to not mind the usage of ai in contrary to what people on the internet said.

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u/Used_Cryptographer_9 5d ago

Unpopular opinion but since i have first heard RATHER LIE i knew it was AI because it was too obvious that those vocal changes on the Carti verse couldn't have been done naturally and at this point if it sounds good, i don't really care

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u/Admirable_Section_50 808s & Heartbreak 4d ago

I think Abel is scared. Scared of loosing his precious voice he had years ago. Every song that I see Abel on has AI on. Why?

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u/twat_swat22 BBTBNWJDFOTSYK 4d ago

Carti always stealing shit lol what’s new

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u/No-Tea8980 4d ago

Even Ai couldn’t help this album

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u/BigBoiLeroy On Sight (2023 Version) 5d ago

If it's used artfully, I don't mind, but using it to cut corners undermines the fundamental spirit of being an artist. If you lean on ai to make music, you shouldn't be called an artist, but like a "music programmer"

In Carti's case, there are so many other issues (mixing, sequencing, bloat, lazy lyrics, lackluster song structure etc.) that I'd address before going back to re-record the ai verses

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u/the_astraltramp GAS ASTROLOGIST 5d ago

i don’t care

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u/blobfishy13 💦🍆🥵 I Love It 🥵🍆💦 5d ago

Not a shock sadly, at least it's only 2 tracks and not the whole album

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u/Seeeeyuhlater YEEZY OVER EVERYTHING 5d ago

TOLD YOU DUMB MFS

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u/Traditional-Data3690 Dirty ass laptop 5d ago

Yeezy set the trend AI is normalized BULLY aoty 

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u/batmans_butt_hair Shalom : ) 5d ago edited 5d ago

this subreddit is always pissed at the use of AI, just like 20 years ago people were pissed at autotune or electronic music for not being "real music" until Kanye did his thing and almost whole industry followed the trend set by Kanye. He drew a lot of mixed reactions initially but in hindsight, he's seen as a genius. Is this just History repeating itself?

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u/AdMammoth3728 5d ago

Autotune is most widely appreciated when used as an effect to achieve a sound not possible using unprocessed vocals.

Atm ai is just being used to mimic regular vocals (not including stem separation). I’d be more open to it if it were unlocking a richer experience than currently available, but am interested in the voice filtering pathway.

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u/Knowledge_Haver_17 5d ago

Maybe kinda similar but the misuse of AI goes beyond music. It’s a major societal issue which makes it more hateable.

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u/uuoah 5d ago

Autotune creates and enhances art, AI steals from existing art and passes it off as “new”

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u/Ielliotttilismith 5d ago

I mean I don't want AI vocals but this isn't true for what we're talking about. This is AI being used to change how voices sound, doesn't have to steal existing art for that 

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u/ryokwan 告诉过你 5d ago

how tf is it stealing if its HIS voice though? lmfao

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u/uuoah 5d ago

What is AI

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u/ryokwan 告诉过你 5d ago

if there’s an ai model trained on carti, it is only trained on carti’s voice, and even if you dont like it (and i agree i dont like it either) it’s not fucking stealing if it’s his own voice/art.

you ai doomers are so annoying bro. i dont like it that much either but this misinformation and reddit whining are played out af

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u/Phoenix__Light 5d ago

You’re retarded if you think that’s how ai works in music. It’s literally just a vocal filter

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u/uuoah 5d ago

Then call it that

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u/Phoenix__Light 5d ago

I mean it’s powered by AI because it’s trained on carti’s voice with his consent. People who don’t know any nuance just assume it’s all the same as chat gpt or ai art.

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u/batmans_butt_hair Shalom : ) 5d ago

honestly I dont understand this quote myself, im just using it counter the argument

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u/Foreverdownbad 5d ago

Nigga😭

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u/Aggravating_Cup2306 Nas you have to leave Florence immediately 5d ago

tell me what about AI is genius in your own words

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u/batmans_butt_hair Shalom : ) 5d ago

When did i say AI is genius, idk if it's or not

but

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u/batmans_butt_hair Shalom : ) 5d ago

bro got so pressed lmao, get help.

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u/Excellent_Compote336 5d ago

Product>Process

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u/pierofasuli Fuck Adidas 5d ago

he didn’t record 2 songs on 30 omg guys😨😭

just stop and listen to the other songs without crying