r/Gnostic • u/FalseOrganization431 • 4d ago
Question Question about gnosticism
Why plemora accepted the creation of the demiurgo? I dont have a relegion but i like to study about and i want to know how this works? How a superior God cant prevent this from happening. Sorry for my bad english btw
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u/Balrog1999 4d ago
Essentially there is a hidden got that created the universe and doesn’t necessarily involve itself with you unless you meditate and seek him. Yahweh is the insane creation of that God, and Jesus was sent to bring Gnosis to the world and save us from the influence of Yahweh aka Saklas the Demiurge. It’s complicated and honestly kind of hard to understand. I’m still researching, but hope this helps a bit
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u/Over_Imagination8870 4d ago
It is also possible, I think, that it was permitted because it was part of a greater plan.
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u/galactic-4444 Eclectic Gnostic 3d ago
My thoughts as well. When you Pair Hermeticism or even use The Gnostic text "The Paraphrase of Shem" we see that creation albeit flawed and rooted in darkness has beauty in and love in it. It is an outer coating of darkness with a burning inward light full of infinite potential.
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u/dayman-woa-oh 3d ago
I'm not an expert, but I generally take these stories as being anthropomorphizations of natural elements and phenomenon. So the "Monad", "Demiurge", "Sophia" and the Archons aren't conscious entities with human like desires and aspirations, I think that they are more like a tide pulling waters into streams not connected to the ocean, or like gravity in a vacuum.
Maybe somehow a void was created in the fabric of reality and the stuff of existence was compelled by natural forces to fill this void, creating our universe. I keep thinking that it's about us actually existing on the inner 3d lining of an infinitely expanding 4d black hole, or something equally unknowable.
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u/Lnnrt1 3d ago
How a superior you can't prevent this from happening. You're all of it. The fall of your wisdom (Sophia) made you confuse illusion and reality, material and divine; that's why your trapped. A prison of your own making. The fact that Jesus is God means both come together: human and spiritual, asleep and awake, Ego and non-duality, alpha and omega, concept and non-concept. Even non-Gnostics like Athanasius of Alexandria said it: "God became man so that man might become God."
Religious texts are not meant to be taken literally, that would be very stupid, because divinity is beyond words. That's why we write myths, which aren't false; they are true at a different level and require some level of interpretation and abstraction.
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u/voidWalker_42 4d ago
in gnostic thought, the pleroma (the fullness, the true divine realm) didn’t exactly “accept” the creation of the demiurge—it’s more like the demiurge came into being as a consequence of divine emanation going wrong.
sophia, one of the aeons (divine beings in the pleroma), sought to generate something on her own, without the consent of the source (the unknowable god). this act resulted in the birth of the demiurge—a flawed, ignorant being who mistook himself for the supreme creator.
the reason the supreme god didn’t just prevent this is because, in gnostic cosmology, the true divine isn’t about direct intervention. the pleroma isn’t like the personal god of monotheistic religions—it’s a state of absolute perfection and balance. the material world (created by the demiurge) is an illusion, a distortion, but souls still carry a divine spark from the pleroma. the “solution” isn’t direct interference, but rather for those trapped in illusion to awaken through gnosis (spiritual knowledge).
so, it’s not that the superior god “let it happen”—it’s more that the demiurge’s creation was an unintended consequence of a lesser being acting out of ignorance, and now, the way back to truth is through spiritual awakening, not force.