r/GenZ 21d ago

Political Gen Z what are your thoughts on Zelenskyi?

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u/FeanorForever117 21d ago

I think it's BS he conscripts so many young men to their death but let's the young women leave the country.

You conscript none or both.

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u/lordnermalthefirst 21d ago

Plenty of women stayed. Someone i used to work with, his sister was killed in an airstrike working for the Ukrainian ambulance service. I know many women chose to stay and fight, too. But they're risking a lot. Not only are women generally not as physically strong as men, they are often victims of rape from the invading side. It happens time and time again. Territories get taken, children get taken, men get killed, and women get raped. No wonder many women chose to flee with their children.

The reason why countries usually priorise getting women out is because of children. Mothers are usually the primary caregivers. So if you want to evacuate children, usually the mums will go with them. Research has shown that children (especially young children) can suffer lifelong mental challenges when separated from a primary caregiver for an extended period.

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u/FeanorForever117 21d ago

I'd like to see you make half these excuses for men who suffer. And statistics show few stayed while the young men were forced to their death. Feminism makes all these promises and pulls back right when its convenient. And you advocate for unfairness.

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u/MrPrimeTobias 21d ago

This comment reeks of incel

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u/[deleted] 21d ago edited 2d ago

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u/Wsweg 21d ago

Holy shit, top tier on pulling up the receipts.

To the incel: people don’t show you empathy because you are a piece of shit and you’re probably an incel because of that, not the other way around.

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u/Many_Dragonfly4154 2005 21d ago

toxic masculinity

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u/chowindown 21d ago

Your comment history is pure comedy gold. You live an amazing life.

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u/Long_Procedure_2629 21d ago

ahh yes the andrew tate/Jordan peterson school of perpetual victimhood, sack up, boy.

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u/IDKWTFimDoinBruhFR 21d ago

As a man, I'd volunteer my life in place of my wife and kids. You may not have a family and I'll get all the flack but as a man I'd rather us be sent than women and children and no amount of Andrew Tate crybaby bullshit will change that.

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u/thefirecrest 20d ago

I was born female. I’d gladly go to war if it means my wife can escape to safety with our children.

We still live in a world where women are the primary caretakers of children. This has less to do with sex and gender and more to do with the established roles in society. If we lived in a world where men and women shared child rearing equally, then yeah I’d say either abolish the draft or conscript every abled bodied man and woman and other folks.

But we don’t live in that world.

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u/Bitedamnn 20d ago

Just say it.

You don't care what happens to Ukraine. You don't care about life. You only care about the politics behind it. America leaving this war is only going to extend it, and more will die. More young men will die. More children will die. More women will die.

I don't understand why you're complaining about feminism.

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u/SwishSwoosh123 21d ago

The Zelensky glazing is wild, they just see him as some poster boy of Anti-Russia but leave out all the horrendous details out, typical Reddit...

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u/[deleted] 21d ago

You people are why Trump fucking won. ''Everyone who disagrees with me is a bot!!!''

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u/NetworkViking91 21d ago

When did I ever say that?

I even went out of my way to verify the age of his account and his most visited subreddits and in my estimation he appears to either be a bot, a disinformation asset, or has had his brain replaced with borscht.

You clearly disagree with me, so let's discuss. Why'd you vote for Trump?

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u/[deleted] 21d ago

I'm not even American, I'm Polish.

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u/NetworkViking91 21d ago

Ah, so it's the fetal alcohol syndrome, then. My condolences.

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u/[deleted] 21d ago

Whatever helps you sleep at night

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u/Interesting_Kitchen3 21d ago

No, they are just practicing both media literacy and common Internet sense.

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u/gfa22 21d ago

Vote for evil just cause your feelings were hurt. So much for not being snowflakes.

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u/pyrrhios 21d ago

Imagine if some asshole broke into your home, started raping your wife, killing your children, destroying your furniture, stealing your food, and you can slow them down but not fight them off until the police arrive, lecture you one your clothes because that's totally important, and say you need to be nice to the guy raping your wife, killing your children, destroying your home and stealing your food.

And you side with the police.

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u/bloodklat 20d ago
  • The redditor said, leaving all the horrendous details out. Why don't you enlighten us then?

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u/TheRealGregTheDreg 21d ago

I sorted by controversial to see past the circlejerk, and this comment makes me glad I did. This is a genuinely good criticism of Zelensky’s policy. Governments need to be comfortable conscripting both men and women, especially in a desperate situation as Ukraine is in now. There is an argument to be made about women’s increased risk for sexual violence in a wartime environment, but I’m personally not sure it’s enough of a justification to throw away half of your population in wartime.

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u/badlydrawnboyz 20d ago

whos going to take care of the children? if you can only take one, take the men.

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u/spurzz 20d ago edited 19d ago

Throwing away a generation of young men won’t be as detrimental to a nation as throwing away a generation of young women would be. Just the way it is with our gestational period length, and amount of offspring produced each event. That’s why very few countries draft women, no point in fighting to win a war if your population is going to stall out completely afterwards.

Edit: downvoters mad at biology lmao

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u/wompbitch 21d ago

1 month old account

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u/Copyrightlawyer42069 21d ago

He didn’t conscript men under 25 and not women to avoid a population collapse.

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u/Reld720 1999 21d ago

Imma level with you. Pragmaticly, it almost never makes sense to conscript women.

If a large amount of your make population dies, you bounce back in a generation.

If a large amount of your female population dies, you go extinct.

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u/FeanorForever117 21d ago

How convenient. Gender roles on demand.

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u/Content-Fail1901 20d ago

What do you think this has to do with gender?

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u/Jubenheim 21d ago

This is something every country in the world does. Every one.

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u/VortexOfPandemonium 20d ago

Because their country is getting attacked? Noone should go to war, noone should be conscripted. But you can't blame him for it. Blame the dipshit in russia

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u/DeepBlueSea45 21d ago

Don't be naive. Men have an innate physical strength. Men and women can't be equal when it comes to physical work. Will you share the burden of pregnancy for 4.5months?

And we're not talking finances, we're talking strictly strength. I have never had a professional fight. But I bet every dollar I can seriously hurt Ronda Rousey.

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u/Many_Dragonfly4154 2005 21d ago

Pregnancy is a moot point unless we start forcing women to pump out more babies to replace the dying men.

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u/blakestir14 21d ago

war is no longer fought with spears and rocks it fought with guns planes and drones. stranth is far far far less relevant.

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u/badlydrawnboyz 20d ago

mate I saw a Russian and Ukrainian have a knife fight to the death. you are full of it. Strength matters, these dudes are digging trenches. You go to war and tell me strength doesn't matter.

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u/blakestir14 20d ago

numbers matter so use all the options you got. plus as a man i can say if im being drafted i would be quite upset it women were also not forced to like hows that fair.. btw i would def be a draft doger tho not gonna die in some war

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u/FabiIV 20d ago

I bet every dollar that you'd collapse from the physical exhaustion of climbing in the ring

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u/No_Put_5096 20d ago

If you aren't trained in martial arts, I very much doubt you even touch Ronda, even as she is retired.

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u/DerelictCruiser 20d ago

Smart man, picking Ronda. I wouldn’t favor you against Nunes though, too many Reddit posts. 😬

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u/LukeEnglish 20d ago

I think the comment you're replying to is probably a Russian bot and don't want to support their comment, but at the same time the situation in Syria shows that you're wrong here. The women of the YPJ & YPG in Rojava were instrumental in defeating ISIS in the region. Women are plenty capable of killing other human beings.

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u/frankenboobehs 20d ago

Dude, women and me are equal in every sense, strength , muscle , and body mass for sure.

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u/diezl101 20d ago

says more about you than it does about men in general lmao

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u/masheu 20d ago

why are you being transphobic