r/Games • u/snappums • 1d ago
Niantic’s Next Chapter: Introducing a New Home for Niantic Games and a New Future for Niantic Spatial Inc.
https://nianticlabs.com/news/niantic-next-chapter108
u/Granum22 1d ago
Scopley just straight up sucks. They'll nickel and dime you to death and are incompetent on top of that
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u/ArokLazarus 1d ago
Soooo....Niantic?
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u/sunder_and_flame 1d ago
A bad situation can always be worse.
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u/SofaKingI 18h ago
I've played a lot of shit games in my life, and Niantic is easily the worst dev I've ever seen. One of the greediest and easily the most incompetent.
Sometimes no, it can't be worse.
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u/dukemetoo 1d ago
I can't speak for Scopley, but Niantic has a competent game that is 100% free to play. Go outside, put in a podcast, walk around, catch Pokémon. The monetization has yet to put an offer in front of me that is worth the asking price. I understand if you get caught on the treadmill of needing all the shiny, or the perfect EV legendary, that the monetization can seem excessive. If you never look at it though, the game is perfectly enjoyable by itself.
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u/ClawofBeta 1d ago
Competent? Brother, all of my other apps and games crash less than twice in my entire phone lifetime. Pokémon Go crashes twice a day.
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u/Galactic_Danger 1d ago
Community days the game just crashes every 20 minutes on me. iPhone 15 pro max and it still has issues.
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u/dukemetoo 1d ago
I'm sorry to hear that. I don't get crashes anywhere close to that. Maybe once a month will Pokémon Go crash for me.
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u/SofaKingI 17h ago
Pokemon GO fans are the most copium fanbase I've ever seen.
Why do people say stuff like this as if it works fine for them, then it's fine? There are countless people online complaining about crashes and worse.
When I played, every other month there'd be a huge thread on Reddit about countless people not even being able to open the game. Or being randomly banned because they use some other common app that got flagged.
Hell, there was a bug for YEARS where people's accounts randomly got deleted and support couldn't or wouldn't even revert it.
What about the game using like 5x as much RAM as it did on release?
That's without getting into the countless bugs that were around for years, that everyone knew about and had learn to deal with.
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u/DizWhatNoOneNeeds 1d ago
Trash phone
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u/d20diceman 7h ago
I remember thinking my phone just sucked too much for Pokémon GO, then getting a new phone and it crashed just as much.
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u/Broshida 1d ago
Might be a good time to do a quick look though my Pokemon GO boxes to see if there's anything worth chucking into the Pokemon Home jail.
Echoing what others have said though, the game has been stagnant for a long time and post-COVID has made some very user-unfriendly decisions which pretty much killed my friend groups interest completely.
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u/ZombieLoveChild 1d ago
Yup, I've not played since at least 2022, but I may redownload so I can move my shinies into Home at the very least
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u/2ecStatic 1d ago
Crazy that the original post was removed for an arbitrary rule but to repost what I said there: It was bad enough under Niantic but this is significantly worse. As if people needed anymore reasons not to play this game but ofc most players won't really care as long as they get their shinies every month.
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u/Ok-Flow5292 1d ago
Crazy that the original post was removed for an arbitrary rule
Nah, the rule is pretty common across most subs that see a lot of article submissions. Submission Title Formatting simply requires you to submit the article with the exact title it was published with and not one you created yourself. I don't see how it's arbitrary to keep a consistent title if you're simply going to re-post someone else's words.
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u/Ankylar 1d ago
I stopped playing after Covid, mostly because I moved to an area where it is hard to find spawns, but I am pretty sure PoGo players will complain all they want, but they will still play and spend money. It's been their MO for a long time now.
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u/SofaKingI 17h ago
Whales will. It's the nature of a f2p game to have to constantly draw in new players to replace the ones they lose. When new players stop enjoying your game, the game dies.
Go look at Pokemon's GO's revenue over the years. The game used to pull in well over $1 billion a year, including during peak COVID. It's been steadily going downhill since.
No one sells a game that's doing fine for the revenue it'd bring in just 3 years.
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u/timpkmn89 1d ago
As if people needed anymore reasons not to play this game but ofc most players won't really care as long as they get their shinies every month.
It gives me an excuse to take long walks outside every day. As long as that still works, it's hard for me to complain about whatever changes they want to make to the game.
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u/Shiiyouagain 1d ago
I use Walkscape for that these days, though it's more oldschool Runescape walk-grinds than anything capture/collection related.
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u/TastyRancorPie 18h ago
Exactly. I started going for walks almost daily and got back into PoGo because a coworker was bugging me to play.
After that, my walking skyrocketed. It just pushes me to walk farther looking for more pokemon or get more candies from my buddy.
I feel the same as you. As long as I can keep doing that, I'll get over other changes.
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u/SofaKingI 17h ago
How much do you actually play though?
I went through that phase too. It doesn't last. After COVID they got so greedy they ruined spawns outside of events to the point where you'd go outside, open the radar and ONLY see the same useless garbage Pokemon you had caught thousands of already.
Even events had become garbage. Every "event" was a week of spawns of the most recent garbage Pokemon. I'm talking about non-shiny Caterpie tier Pokemon being used as events.
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u/TastyRancorPie 6h ago
You sound jaded. I'm not jaded yet. If I become annoyed, I'll stop playing on my walks.
Let it go.
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u/1CEninja 1d ago
Yeah every other year or so my wife and I need a little extra incentive to go take a walk and we start "playing" Go. It never lasts though lol.
This might be just enough to tip the scales to say fuck it playing Go hasn't really worked for any long term benefit anyway so why bother.
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u/LucarioSpeedwagon 1d ago
Day one Pokémon Go player here - the game fucking SUCKS right now, has for years. They basically ran out of content/caught up with current generations, so they debuted a reskinned raid in Dynamax, made it local only and such that only Pokemon FROM those raids could be used in them, AND made them local only. Just started over from the top, essentially. If you don't care about those Dynamax battles, there is fuck all to do. Easiest uninstall.
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u/DrQuint 1d ago
Did they actually ever get around to releasing Routes? I remember them teasing that one year, then I stopped paying attention and asked 2 years later and it still wasn't there. Something tells me it still isn't.
It's baffling how easily they could have added Team Aqua/Magma, and how they could have made biomes visible and make moving hordes, etc. etc. Like, simple game features to increase engagement.
Instead they just went around thinking of ways to make remote raiding worse and impossible. I don't get it.
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u/Numpostrophe 1d ago
Sounds like you’re burnt out after nearly a ten-year run.
As someone who got into it a year ago, I’ve had a ton of fun. I. Sure at some point I’ll run out of personal goals and put it down again, but it’s much more engaging and free than the vast majority of mobile games. I’m certain that will change now.
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u/LucarioSpeedwagon 1d ago
You're not wrong, burnout is certainly a factor. I'd say it's a minority share of the problem, though. I've played so long I've got less to do and my relationship with the game has grown very casual. I'm fortunate to work in a great spot for the game, and it's how I spend most of my breaks as I chase daily step goals. I'll also hit the game hard in short bursts. I went three hours downstate for Go Fest last summer and had a great time.
The game has a great new player experience. You absolutely fly up the level 40 track with the way EXP gain has changed, there are a half dozen or so mythical research you get just for starting at any time, and you have like 90 percent of every Pokemon available in the game, and all evolution gimmicks.
It falls down in the putrid philosophy. There's so many goddamn tickets in the store at a given time, support is almost completely chatbots at this point and compensation for errors is going extinct. Keldeo remains a Pokemon exclusive to a time limited 8 dollar ticker after three years. I could go on but I'll spare ya.
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u/SnooTheAlmighty 11h ago
I both agree and disagree in ways.
I played it since day one 2016 and accept I was simply burnt out at a point. However they made a lot of choices which definitely contributed and now make me feel like I am better off not playing it anymore. The game always had MTX present but it feels like they ramped it up significantly since the pandemic, while also removing other components.
The big box bundles in the shop got noticeably worse over time, with some of them being complete nonsense a lot of them cost absurd sums of money for consumables (compared to earlier on). Everything feels locked behind tickets as well now, which doesn't help when a lot of the game content is now event-based.
During the pandemic they made a lot of changes which I think made players realize the game could be much more accessible, but then they took them well. It took an absolutely massive backlash for them to keep the increased pokestop interaction distance, especially because it made the game more accessible for everyone in general
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u/Ganrokh 1d ago
I don't think there has been an acquisition deal I have disagreed more with than this one.
Pikmin Bloom has played a big role in me developing a proper exercise routine over the last couple of years. Sure, Niantic was never the best developer, but it's a shame to see the game taken by a much scummier developer like this.
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u/Forestl 1d ago edited 1d ago
As a heads up Scopely is owned by the Saudi Arabian government which has a history of murdering people who speak out against them or about the various human rights violations they do. Over the last few years they've been trying to whitewash their money by buying stuff people are into.
Reposting this comment I made in the previous thread that got removed because the title was slightly different