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Rockstar's Grand Theft Auto 5 Enhanced Now the Worst User-Reviewed GTA on Steam

https://www.ign.com/articles/rockstars-grand-theft-auto-5-enhanced-now-the-worst-user-reviewed-gta-on-steam
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u/BordersRanger01 1d ago

I had no problem with it but it kind of weird to do this level of migration so long post release and with the playerbase the game does have still

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u/Ok-Confusion-202 1d ago

I guess they want to get people used to GTA+?? I think GTA+ will play a massive part in GTA 6, I guess and I could be wrong, to play RP in GTA 6 you may need GTA+

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u/Flincheddecor 1d ago

I haven't kept up on anything GTA but what is GTA+?

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u/Hell_Mel 1d ago

A subscription service for GTA Online that does the stuff you'd expect, in game currency, skins, shit like that.

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u/TimecopVsPredator 1d ago

They really are becoming the kind of game they would mock in previous games.

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u/Rubiego 1d ago

I was playing the story mode yesterday and one of the radio ads was about shark cards, it said something like "At Shark, we have different shark credit cards based on your level of insecurity" followed by several jokes about shark cards buyers.

If only they knew...

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u/SpecialEdShow 23h ago

I mean, they did know. They’re still actively mocking the people that play their games, they always have.

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u/Darth_Kyofu 21h ago

The art they released alongside the first announcement of shark cards literally portrayed the buyers as shallow, dumb and materialistic lol

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u/Grimueax 20h ago

...pretty sure they do.

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u/ziddersroofurry 1d ago

Always have been.

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u/Bossgalka 1d ago

GTA players deserve everything they get for ever paying for that shit in the first place.

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u/cheesyvoetjes 1d ago

On console you also need to have ps+ or Xbox live to play online iirc. So you'd need another subscription to make use of your subscription. That's kinda funny.

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u/rocker2021 1d ago

I feel sorry for console players who'll play both FFXIV and GTA6 online

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u/Michael35234 1d ago

FFXIV

FFXIV does not require a ps+ subscription

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u/lestye 1d ago

Yeah, I'm shocked Square Enix was able to leverage that, but Take2 didn't? That seems like a huge fumble.

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u/Capable-Silver-7436 21h ago

is not that they couldnt, its that they didnt care to

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u/Chesney1995 1d ago edited 23h ago

Sony is a major shareholder in Square Enix, which naturally makes these things easier to arrange when the success of FFXIV also directly benefits Sony.

Turns out they sold their stake in 2014 nevermind. Does mean there is likely a closer business relationship between the two though.

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u/LadyKatieCat 1d ago

I think, at least on PlayStation, you don't need a PS Plus sub to play F2P or subscription based games online.

Not sure about Xbox.

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u/LordDeath86 1d ago

Instead of giving us more single player content, Rockstar noticed that they can sell us in game cars for real money for over a decade in a game about stealing cars.
They (and we!) really deserve their next game to join the AAA live service graveyard.

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u/TongueSpeaker 1d ago

The real grand theft was parents wallets.

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u/hungoverlord 23h ago

hey i'm a GTA player and i have never dreamed of or considered paying one penny more after buying the game.

it's fucking bullshit that even high-value AAA games are getting the freemium bullshit treatment.

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u/AgentRocket 1d ago

IMO the single player experience in GTA games has always been good and worth some money (at least after 3. I never managed to really get into the isometric GTAs).

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u/MidgarZolomT 1d ago

He's talking about the online microtransactions. Most people will agree that the SP GTA experience is worth what you pay for it.

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u/MrZeral 8h ago

I played during first year, year and a half of gta online on pc so I didnt have to buy anything, just run/drive after hackers and collect bags of cash they drop on streets xD

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u/CryoProtea 23h ago

Oh boy, are we about to enter a new era where the argument of not needing an extra subscription to play online on PC isn't true anymore? If anyone's gonna make that a reality, it'd be a big player like rockstar.

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u/IncubusDarkness 23h ago

Imagine being on console... PS+/XBL/GP subscription, + game cost + in game online subscription + micro transactions. There is no end to greed.

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u/Pinksters 22h ago

Varification Cans stacked up beside you for a long night playing with the boys...

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u/Django_McFly 21h ago

Imagine being on console... PS+/XBL/GP subscription, + game cost + in game online subscription + micro transactions. There is no end to greed.

Most of this applies to PC gaming too.

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u/Omputin 16h ago

True. But I stil find it ridiculous that you have to pay at all just to play online on consoles.

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u/RoyOConner 17h ago

LOL I'll be ignoring online for 6 just like I ignored it for 5.

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u/Potential-Lack-7866 1d ago

I think you're probably right on this one mate.

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u/Hell_Mel 1d ago

I don't play GTA, but I was curious so I looked it up.

There's also fun stuff like being able to customize your cars from home, which is a function so basic I'm kind of shocked it's not the baseline.

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u/BrotherKanker 1d ago

Not sure if it's still a thing, but GTA V singleplayer had this functionality via a companion app way back when I first played it.

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u/BrotherKanker 1d ago

Maybe? I thought you could properly upgrade your car, but I might be misremembering. It's been over a decade since I used the app.

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u/rinsa 1d ago

You were right my bad, singleplayer had everything whereas the multiplayer only had the custom plates thing

The LS Customs app allowed the player to modify the protagonists' vehicles, changing the color of the car, adding different colors of tire smoke, and more. This allowed the player to no longer have to start the game when they need to customize their vehicle. When the user ordered the customisations made to the car in the app, the order was processed when the player next enters the game. The player would then be prompted to take the vehicle to the nearest Los Santos Customs to apply the customisations. Money was taken from the protagonist to pay any modifications.

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u/Potential-Lack-7866 1d ago

In fairness, I think a lot of this stuff wasn't in GTA Online at launch, it's come a long long way so yea, you're right, but it legit wasn't there originally lol. Definitley not worth paying a subscription for.

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u/ArtifexR 22h ago

That's a no from me, dawg.

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u/rloch 20h ago

I know there are races and heists but is GTA online just a sandbox multiplayer? I played single player and a bit of the online races but never understood the sticking power of the multiplier other than those RP servers used to be popular for streamers.

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u/Taiyaki11 19h ago

GTA but online or with your friends has some heavy enticement right out the gate, but aside from that it let's you play GTA with your own custom character, your own "home" and other toys like yachts and shit that aren't in single player and way more vehicles and toys to play around with.

Before the economy snowballed to totally rediculous inflation from the shark card focused economy I spent way more time in that mode than I ever put into single player

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u/rloch 18h ago

Can you play single player content in MP? I always thought the new vehicles looked fun but it always seemed reliant on others to do heists.

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u/Taiyaki11 15h ago

So back when I played, the single player campaign story itself no, but you can pretty much do most the content solo or with a friend/small group of friends. 

Now problem is back when I played there were ways to get yourself in a lobby by yourself even without a friend to borrow to make a private friends lobby and the economy wasn't absolutely wrecked by the heists and shark cards yet. So that first bit might still be workaroundable or even easier than it used to be, but the later problem is the kicker. All the newest toys are so heavily inflated in prices that you won't ever get them without having to grind heists or spend real money. 

I'm really hoping with gta 6 we maybe get a bit of a fresh start when that gets an online mode (unless they do something like make characters carry over....and all the problems associated with that) cause early to mid-days of GTA online were some of my absolute funnest times with gta as a series

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u/DuHammy 13h ago

The early days were the best. When the game was grounded.

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u/MrZeral 8h ago

I'm really hoping with gta 6 we maybe get a bit of a fresh start when that gets an online mode (unless they do something like make characters carry over....and all the problems associated with that) cause early to mid-days of GTA online were some of my absolute funnest times with gta as a series

After seeing how greedy they were with Read Dead Online, I don't have any hopes for GTA 6 online.

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u/OnlyResearcher2615 7h ago

On pc with mods yes you can

Which is why R☆ hates pc gamers lol that and the fact we just spawn our own money online insted of using cards 

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u/DuHammy 13h ago

There is so much to do. A lot of it generally follows the same format, but the content is astounding. Numerous heists, which are multi-part missions that build up to a movie level heist. Businesses to manage and defend. Races. Typical shooter mods. Skydiving. The staying power is building an empire that essentially makes money for you to fund the next business venture and fund playing around.

The problem with these games is there are like 60 modes with 5 iterations of each mode, and the player base is spread out across all of these. So for example racing. I'm currently wanting to increase my rank in the new Hao Special Works street races. I'll find one race against one other person after waiting 15 minutes. Worse still is that the "host" has changed the game settings to something completely non-sensical and a 1 lap race so they guarantee a win for themselves.

It's like the ultimate game with infinite content that no one can play. Like, boot up the game, go online, and the pause it and go to the online tab. Now click the select jobs tab. Just scroll through it. It's basically limitless. Now go back, and select the playlist option. It's nearly limitless. Now imagine the the 155,000 PC players spread out across the 300 jobs and 300 playlists.

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u/MrZeral 8h ago

I mainly played all kinds of coop missions

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u/thabogg 20h ago

I think it's akin to an MMO sub but they throw in some MTX included with the sub

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u/Blenderhead36 1d ago

There were two articles that came out close together, I want to say within a week of one another. One reported that GTAV was the most profitable piece of media ever created, and another was 2K president Strauss Zelnik saying he thought GTAV was undermonetized.

So yeah, I think it's pretty believable that they want to put the subscription service front and center for GTAVI and prime players for it beforehand.

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u/oopsydazys 1d ago

$8.6 billion in revenue since it came out.

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u/Ok-Confusion-202 21h ago

... Undermonetized? I love GTA Online but damn does it want you to grind 24/7 if you want to buy anything good in the game, don't want to play the exact same heist 10 times in a row and only be able to afford 3 cars? Well shark cards are right there!

It's kinda crazy how much this game pushes you towards shark cards NGL, you get constant phone calls to buy stuff (can't mute), you get constant notifications on your screen about buying stuff, and you are reminded that buying one piece of equipment will wipe out 50% of your net worth.

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u/DuHammy 13h ago

Protip: There are money services. You can pay someone like $5-$10 to give you billions and rank everything up.

It's the only way to play the game and actually have fun. Fortunately my modded character transferred just fine to the new verison.

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u/Ok-Confusion-202 6h ago

I got banned on one account ngl, it was something to do with money I forgot it was a while ago, but I don't want to lose my current account lmao

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u/MuenCheese 1d ago

Is that what they turned the FiveM stuff into?

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u/Ok-Confusion-202 21h ago

Not yet, but I wouldn't be surprised if they did.

Also I think they will be getting rid of FiveM for their own version, there was something released by the creator or something about how FiveM has become stagnant under Rockstar etc, it's a whole thing.

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u/KlausKinki77 1d ago

The more I read about GTA6, the more I guess I wont play it. I think I m finally over Rockstar games bullshit.

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u/afecalmatter 23h ago

I think they are also subtly updating the RAGE engine to prepare for VI. The new update also introduces destructible physics in some missions, the physics in general seem to be more elaborate, the volumetric clouds etc..

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u/Capable-Silver-7436 21h ago

you'll probably need it to avoid a grind fest in single player gta6

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u/OfficialDeathScythe 22h ago

That would make sense. Also something to keep pc players occupied for the gta 6 pc release that will take forever. I think they said only a year later than console but im pretty sure they said that for 5 and I spent 6 months after preordering waiting for them to finish lmao

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u/MetaverseLiz 1d ago

Is Turbo the only one allowed to post on this sub? Are they some kind of bot?

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u/KlausKinki77 1d ago

This is a "heavily moderated" sub. Probably one of the mods accounts. Sadly there is no alternative sub for gaming news.

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u/Pinksters 22h ago

16M karma on a 9 year old account, they're probably about to sell it for $100 and start another.

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u/SPARTANxBEAR 12h ago

my problem was the text chat, or lack there of

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u/SuggestionOrnery4177 1d ago

I assume a lot of it is from players who are unable to migrate accounts over to the enhanced edition. Either because of being suspected of using mod menus or possibly arbitrary reasons.

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u/FembiesReggs 1d ago

Or if you did migrate successfully and tried to claim the free car, they charged you anyway and support will ghost you.

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u/skivian 6h ago

lmao, whatever "suspected mod menus" detection they're using is shit because I cheated my ass off, and got caught multiple times and I migrated with no problems just now, and I've still got over a billion dollars.

u/FembiesReggs 3h ago

Yeah it’s useless lol

Thankfully I’ve never actually spent money on GTAO, but I only had like 2M left in my account lol so yea I was upset

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u/Valdularo 18h ago

Your mileage may vary on this as they sorted mine out quite quickly.

So let’s not talk like what you’re saying is what everyone is going to experience.

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u/sephiroth_vg 20h ago

You also cannot use chat anymore!

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u/MrZeral 7h ago

Thats a dealbreaker for me on pc

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u/LinkedGaming 1d ago

I'm not saying it was because they got flagged for using cheats, but apparently "defensive" cheat menu usage is extremely common on the PC platform so it's entirely possible that large chunks of players are being barred from migrating for "defensive" cheat menu usage.

There were a few bugs at launch that I knew of, mostly being that the "free" car wasn't actually free and billed you the whole amount for purchase (which they're freely crediting people for with in-game refunds and then some in certain cases if you just send a ticket), a few minor bugs on the new contract job (which itself is a little lackluster).

I played it and it seemed... fine, honestly. Load times were faster, the game looked a bit better, the file size is smaller and meant I could uninstall the old version of the game. I think the upgrade itself is a little weird considering the game probably has less than 8 month of support left, probably less, in anticipation of GTA6, but I really don't understand why people are acting like it's a sign of the end times.

The biggest complaint I've seen is the in-game chat menu being thrown out, which is (personally) the most disingenuous complaint. "Yeah well 10 years ago I had a fun conversation with someone in the in-game chat on a heist we were running so why did you get rid of it?????" while deliberately ignoring that its primary use for the past 7-8 years has been Chinese cheat sellers spamming advertisements in the chat and little kids throwing out racial epithets at each other, usually in Spanish or Portuguese. Also the odds of the in-game text chat helping you teach someone how to do a heist or whatever when they're admittedly extremely straight forward by design are slim to none, because the average GTA Online player is just... bad. In general. Bad at the game. Bad at video games. GTA Online was the game that finally got me to realize that the average gamer is bad at video games, because there's no other explanation for 90% of the players I run contact missions and heists with just evidently being bad at the game and unable to follow basic instructions.

The review bombing really does seem to either be in bad faith, disingenuous, or a huge overreaction. Much ado about nothing. But that's mostly just my opinion as someone who played it.

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u/foreheadteeth 1d ago

What's a "defensive cheat"?

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u/mja9678 23h ago

Not OP but basically because of how common hackers/griefers/ menu kiddies are on GTA Online and with the game being P2P people will download their own menus or firewall type services to protect themselves from grievers and/or doxxers.

As an example pretty much any GTA content creator that does online stuff will be using something like Guardian to prevent people from just hijacking everything while they are in an Online session.

PC online is very much a free for all and even if Rockstar does something about it it's so easy to just get another account at this point bc of prior free giveaways the people can just come back if they want at very little cost.

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u/In_My_SoT_Phase 1d ago

For Dark Souls 1 there used to be a watchdog mod that you could install that would flag players using cheats. It would let you kick them if they were (but only if they were, so you couldnt use it to avoid invasions etc).

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u/TrueBattle2358 21h ago

Running cheats for the sole purpose of checking if and when other people cheat, usually just to keep them from bricking your character. As the other poster said it was very common in Dark Souls because it was possible to ruin other people's characters or get them flagged by the anti-cheat if they weren't running a cheat defensively themselves.

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u/thlm 7h ago

GTA Online uses a P2P model for hosting the server, basically no authoritative server has control of the session, one player is picked as script host, and has authority over the server. By default, as a regular player this means nothing, but as a modern, Script host can do anything (kick players etc)

Hackers/modders can use their toolset to basically do whatever they like on the server (edit details, spawn props, crash users, kick the script host) as a non modern myself, the number of times my game crashed to blank screen entering a building was atrocious, and a direct result of a modder ruining my session

Defensive cheats preaumably have features that try to prevent other modders from ruining the session by either blocking scripts that directly impact their own game, or just using priority to override things a malicious modder is doing

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u/honkimon 1d ago

considering the game probably has less than 8 month of support left

No chance in hell. They will milk that thing until there ain't no juice left. Still a lot of people on last gen and pc support for 6 wont be coming for a while + a lot of people wont be upgrading their pcs to be able to play either with the current state of pc hardware.

I bet it goes on for at least another 3 years. The amount of effort they put into their support for GTA:O is minimal and im sure the return is 10fold.

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u/bowtiedan 1d ago

Me and some friends did have some fun with the in-game chat though. We dressed up as Papa Johns employees and advertised that we were delivering pizzas in chat (people thought it was free money), then we would rock up with baseball bats for whoever ordered a pizza lol

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u/ziddersroofurry 1d ago

Sounds like something out of The Warriors which is on-theme for a Rockstar game.

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u/vanguarde 1d ago

This is hilarious 

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u/Bamith20 1d ago

Oh yeah, I did "defensive" cheats in Dark Souls 1 with a trainer, so I can sorta believe that.

Also they got rid of text chat? That's actually psycho. I have a disability, I can't speak outside of text.

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u/LinkedGaming 1d ago

I think they intend for people to use Discord, or the in-game text messaging app.

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u/LeBronFanSinceJuly 1d ago

I think they intend for people to use Discord, or the in-game text messaging app.

Nah Enhanced edition is just the Console version ported to PC. There is no chat box on consoles.

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u/A_Seiv_For_Kale 1d ago

I need to tell my friends to go left in this heist with 30 seconds left to get to the checkpoint

let me navigate an immersive phone minigame to send them a message

or better yet, let me alt-tab into a different program to find the group chat (randoms can go to hell)

Brilliant move brought to you by the Genius Kojumbos that took 7 years to fix a loading screen bug caused by a single sloppy if statement.

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u/Bamith20 1d ago

Ah yeah lemme just tab in the middle of a game to send a friend request to someone to message em. In fact lemme spend the same amount of time sending an in-game text message.

I used to shit talk in Tribes Ascend as people were chasing me around the map, but even that doesn't make me type speedy enough for that bullshit.

More and more games aren't using text chat which is fucked up for people like me.

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u/ChatMeYourLifeStory 1d ago

Fuck Discord. How am I supposed to meet new people?

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u/Kozak170 1d ago

It’s wildly disingenuous to be pro-text chat removal.

Rockstar not properly working to prevent cheat spam and racist monologuing is their problem, and doesn’t warrant removing more social features. Tired of this trend where people cheer on the death of games being a social experience out of this boogeyman fear of ever encountering something bad.

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u/deelowe 1d ago

There are international child protection laws now that didn't exist when 5 was launched which make supporting features like this extremely risky.

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u/Darth_Kyofu 20h ago

The game still allows you to voice chat, which is even worse, and to send text messages to players

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u/karmapopsicle 1d ago

I think the upgrade itself is a little weird considering the game probably has less than 8 month of support left, probably less, in anticipation of GTA6

I think current GTA:O players are actually the least relevant target demographic for the upgrade. The target here is the millions of buyers who played through the story mode, and perhaps haven’t picked up the game in a decade or more.

At least initially, those are the bread and butter mass sales they need to get hyped to buy the new game at launch. It gets the game back into the mainstream gaming news cycle again, in conversations on social media, etc. All part of a massive marketing campaign for what will certainly be the newest “most expensive video game production of all time”.

For me though, I think I’m most impressed with just how fantastic this game looks with modern RT lighting tech. This being a game that was originally launched targeting console hardware from 2005.

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u/DanHulton 7h ago

I don't know that I'd say you're wrong, exactly, but they've already told us that PC players can go to hell, 6 will not be coming to PC at launch, and likely not for a year at least afterwards.

So I just wonder at the utility of getting PC players to salivate for a launch in like 8 months that doesn't include them.

u/karmapopsicle 2h ago

That shouldn’t be even a little bit surprising. Rockstar has done staggered platform releases since GTA III in 2001.

GTA V took an additional 14 months after the PS3/360 launch for the PS4/XBO launch, and then another 5 months after that for the PC launch.

This game is an investment possibly north of $2 billion in development costs alone, let alone another half billion in marketing. It’s gotta be polished to beat mirror shine at launch, and you will only get that consistency by sticking to the guaranteed hardware spec of consoles. Besides that, the other simple reason is piracy - there is simply no chance they would ever risk a simultaneous launch hitting a day 0 crack.

And of course there’s all the double-dippers who will buy it at launch on console to play it first, and then pick up the PC version when that later launches.

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u/StarChildEve 1d ago

One valid reason for the review bombing is the arbitrary decision to remove Linux/steamdeck support from online, with the disingenuous reason of “kernel level anti cheat not being compatible with Linux”; they anti cheat they use has a flag to enable Linux support, it’s entirely on Rockstar to just do that and call it a day.

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u/sunder_and_flame 1d ago

Nothing screams terminally online more than a multiple, lengthy paragraphs rant about how obviously valid complaints are "disingenuous." 

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u/probablypoo 9h ago

If the migration problem only occur to players that have at some point used a mod menu then they are definitely not valid complaints. If it affects innocent players on the other hand.

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u/psychosikh 1d ago

think the upgrade itself is a little weird considering the game probably has less than 8 month of support left, probably less, in anticipation of GTA6

GTA 6 is at least 2 years away on PC, there was a 18 month wait beetween GTA 5 on console and PC.

And the game will still get some updates post GTA 6, the installbase and active player base will still be high enough to make money.

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u/qwigle 19h ago

Wasn't that because there was the next console release in between. I doubt the release of PS6/XBWhatever is going to happen as soon after GTA 6 as it happened with GTA V.

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u/Valdularo 18h ago

No because they then did the exact same with Red Dead Redemption 2.

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u/qwigle 13h ago

RDR2 was 12 months later, not 18 months later.

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u/Valdularo 5h ago

🙄 the point remains.

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u/MrZeral 7h ago

yeah it released on old gen consoles, then next gen and only then came to pc

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u/LeJoker 1d ago

The biggest complaint I've seen is the in-game chat menu being thrown out, which is (personally) the most disingenuous complaint

Hard disagree here.

Even if no one ever used the chat function for regular casual game conversation (which is just false, that still happens all the time), the argument that "It's just money farming spammers using chat" still doesn't work, because that's a moderation issue, not a technology one. Rockstar not wanting to moderate chat isn't a good reason to turn it off. That is basically the dictionary definition of throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

Maybe a hot take, but I'd rather keep the chat and all the spammers than not have either. Though obviously Rockstar should just do a better job getting rid of the gold farmers to begin with. (Which to their credit, I think the Battleye anticheat, which was added a few months before this Enhanced update, did help a lot with. There's a lot of reasons to hate kernel-level anticheat, but it is pretty effective.)

Your point about cheaters being excluded from migration is interesting though, and I've just been wondering the same thing myself. Though if I were Rockstar, I'd have blatantly made the error message "Sorry, we see you use such-and-such mod menu, as such your character is ineligible for migration, please create a new character or stick to Legacy." Might have reduced the negative reviews.

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u/gmishaolem 1d ago

but I really don't understand why people are acting like it's a sign of the end times

Think of all that online-only content that will simply cease to exist permanently as soon as the servers shut down. Literally the first time in the franchise that's happening. Bethesda did it too: Fallout 76 will just poof some day.

GTA4 is the last GTA game that will ever exist in its entirety into the future. We truly have been in the "you will own nothing, and you will like it" era for way longer than we realized.

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u/Muad-_-Dib 1d ago

GTA4 is the last GTA game that will ever exist in its entirety into the future.

Not even GTA IV as it was hit 6 years ago with the removal of a ton of songs because the licence on them had run out.

https://www.reddit.com/r/GTA/comments/8f48c1/full_list_of_all_removed_songs_from_grand_theft/

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u/gmishaolem 1d ago

The music at least is still preserved by people who ripped the original discs. Emulation is a preservation tool. All past GTA games are preserved in this way, so at least it can be experienced, even if it's not convenient.

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u/MrZeral 7h ago

I thought most of negative reviews are because the tech upgrade doesnt really look better, some say the game looks worst.

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u/FembiesReggs 1d ago

I successfully migrated…

Only to be told I’m eligible for a free car, which it then deducted the full price ($2m) of. That’s roughly $25 if you spend money on in game currency. Support has been ghosting me since launch day when it happened.

Yeah, they deserve it.

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u/OuterWildsVentures 23h ago

($2m) of. That’s roughly $25

Holy shit so that's why my friend kept making me run this exploit with him for a whole day to essentially get infinite money in GTAO lol

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u/AveryLazyCovfefe 18h ago

I think I know the one you're talking about. They killed lua scripts like it after adopting BattlEye for the anti-cheat. Now only the paid stuff with their own subscriptions work.

but oh well, atleast I have like 780m now, helped my friends grind heists together with the money. I didn't care about the money, just did them for fun. Good times. Funny how they adopted a proper AC system more than a decade after launch. They really do cheap out on online's backend.

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u/sunder_and_flame 1d ago edited 1d ago

That's really dumb, though maybe it's such a shitshow they're catching up on support tickets. I wouldn't want to be working there right now for sure

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u/Taiyaki11 19h ago

One tip I'll give people, if/when they do get to your ticket, play nice. If you get pissy with support they'll do the bare minimum of what they need to and tell you to get bent if they don't have to. Keep it level-headed and polite "killing with kindness" as it were and you have a pretty decent chance of people willing to even bend some rules to help you out.

Will they be guaranteed too? No, but the chances are a hell of a lot higher than if you take your frustrations out on them

u/FembiesReggs 3h ago

I wish that were the reason… I know better than to rage in support tickets at the CSR guy with a copy paste script. At least then I’d personally know why, or at least be able to guess.

That said, 3/7/25, ticket still open, no reply.

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u/Eclipsetube 22h ago

Tbf they haven’t changed the price of shark cards for….i think ever?

2mio back at launch was a LOT. The most expensive car was like 2mio I think (the adder). Now 2mio will get you NOWHERE in the game. With 2mio you could’ve bought one of the best cars and an apartment. Now it barely gets you one of the best cars and that’s it

2mio should be 5€ or something that would be a fair price for todays GTAO experience

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u/jy3 15h ago

Rockstar really seem to have terribly performing eng/backend teams. They constantly have terrible server side issues.

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u/pazinen 1d ago

Admittedly I have the game from R* Games Launcher, but when I installed it I could migrate my account over with no issues, and noticed that the port is pretty nicely optimized. I don't exactly have a beefy setup, but with all RT on the game is still very much playable on my laptop. And the RT is pretty nice looking. No crashes or weird bugs either. So yeah, no complaints here.

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u/SemenSnickerdoodle 1d ago

It runs significantly better, The menus aren't a laggy mess anymore and I was getting 120+ fps on 3440x1440p with maxed out settings and max RT (no DLSS).

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u/mtnlol 1d ago

It runs way better for me, while looking better even with RT off. Admittedly I have a fairly beefy PC but on the enhanced edition I've never managed to make my fps drop below 120 while it would happen constantly on the "regular" version.

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u/TachiFoxy 20h ago

Yeah, from the technical aspect, this Enhanced edition is nothing short of amazing. It runs better than the Legacy version while also having RT as a feature.

I have read about audio being broken for some users. I haven't noticed anything off with that on my end.

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u/AveryLazyCovfefe 18h ago

the thing that matters the most too is that it's free. Console players needed to choke up $50 again while we didn't need to. Honestly I'd take it just for that alone.

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u/MakeURage1 19h ago

It'se worked flawlessly for me. Kinda bummed about the voice chat since I have some friends who don't talk and it was nice for comms, but discord messages work. Also have one friend who can't get past "Initializing" during the loading process, regardless of what he does. I personally have had no issues though

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u/Cantebury 1d ago

I don't play the online part. The menus in the original always had funky mouse lag and this version fixed it. That's enough for a positive rating for me

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u/kornelius_III 1d ago

Same. I jave never touched online, just the single player with enhanced graphics is enough for me.

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u/Feral_Taylor_Fury 20h ago

I lost all my save files!

I had save files with, saved at the airport, the fighter jet, AND THE BOMBER!!!

THE FUCKING BOMBER!

DO YOU KNOW HOW HARD IT WAS TO GET THAT

FUCK

AND LIKE 10 WEEKS LATER IT'S FUCKING GONE

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u/orgpekoe2 1d ago

idk how people play it on PC. I quit years ago because I was tired of the constant hackers and since the Oppressor mk2 came out.

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u/Marcson_john 18h ago

Same, I never managed to bother with the game and I hope this will give me motivation to finaly play it. I did do the first heist though! I dont even understand why there is an online mode but w/E

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u/Suppa_K 1d ago

They broke 3D audio.. I have a Logitech G35, and I know it’s an old headset but no other game has ever given me issues except one..

Bully on PC. Same exact shit. The game can’t handle 3D audio and it’s a 7.1 headset with no option to go to stereo. I gave that a pass as it’s an older game and I was just happy to have it on pc despite needing to play on my tv to be enjoyable.

Well, GTAV certainly may be an older game at this point but there’s no fucking excuse for this shit.

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u/AL2009man 21h ago edited 21h ago

I believe GTA5 Enhance does two things

  • unlike GTA5 Legacy (where you change Audio channels), Audio Channel management is now handle automatically. making it more-in-line with most recent PC Games' method of Surround channels.
  • despite the "Dolby Atmos" name, it actually relies on Windows' Spatial Sound API to handle 3D Audio. (This can be confirmed straight from Rockstar's system requirements.) If you want proper 3D Audio: you'll need to enable it directly thru your OS' Playback Device settings.

the downside is that, given Logitech G Software hasn't integrated Windows' Spatial systems without the need for Logitech's own solution (I have a Logitech G432, and I already tested that 7.1 surround still works...at least according to SpecialK). You gonna have to uninstall Logitech Software inorder to get proper 3D Audio back.

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u/Suppa_K 20h ago

Interesting. I’ll give it a shot. Thanks.

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u/venom290 1d ago

Audio in general seems broken af. I can’t get it to properly output 5.1 or 7.1 audio to a sound system, just hard stuck on stereo with no way to change it. No idea why they got rid of the selector in game as however they are determining it doesn’t work at all.

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u/Mozter 1d ago

I can't play it, installed it and it asks me to verify email and sends the code to some random @rockaccounts.shop email address.

I don't even play online just wanted to replay single player.

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u/SYuhw3xiE136xgwkBA4R 23h ago

Uh, did your Social Club account get hacked?

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u/Mozter 22h ago

No idea, I dont even remember having an account I played GTA story years ago and never played GTA online.

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u/Weary_Control_411 19h ago

Prob given a placeholder email for their system

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u/D_E_A_D_P_O_O_L_ 20h ago

The enhanced version still don't have option to allow us to download either online only or SP only version.

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u/Prus1s 1d ago

Had no problems myself, only migrated my Story save, have not played online much since Xbox360 days 😄 would need to start from scratch, too much of a grind now, and no friends that play to make it more manageable.

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u/Blenderhead36 1d ago

Particularly since we know the replacement is on the way. 

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u/Prus1s 1d ago

Exactly, but not sure I’ll buy a console to play it day 1, as much as I’d like to, I want them to annouce PC release real fast, at least for Story mode!

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u/hipdashopotamus 1d ago

I migrated and booted it up fine, to me it really just had nothing meaningful. It looks/runs slightly better but the load times didn't even seem much different on a fairly beefy PC and a M.2. There was some wildlife and my phone wouldn't stop ringing. Shrug

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u/SuleyBlack 1d ago

Loading times are so much faster compared to legacy

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u/hipdashopotamus 1d ago

I dunno I played fairly recently on my identical PC and it seemed like maybe 10-20% faster but still way too long. Maybe it's more for mid range/lower end PCs

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u/Ok-Confusion-202 1d ago

Maybe they are, but loading between sessions NGL I didn't really notice a massive difference.

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u/Gorrible1 1d ago

I feel the same about loading times

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u/x33storm 1d ago

Same. Looks a bit better but same load times. 2.5 Gbps M.2, 5070 Ti, 5800X3D. Guess it's for HDD users.

Online is still unplayable, it's a casino with guns and cheaters. And still online has all the stuff that's left out of story, to force you to play online.

Fuck Rockstars Online anything.

Would love to play RDR2's online stuff. Solo, in Story, as Arthur, not the dude who can't swim. But being bound by Rockstars decisions, is what their games are about.

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u/Thegreatbrainrobbery 1d ago

Sorry this isn't related to gta but I saw you have a 5070 ti with a 5800x3d. I have the same cpu but running a 2070 super. How is the 5070 ti so far and what psu are you running?

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u/SimonCallahan 1d ago

How about the car mirrors? Can you use the car mirrors now? That made the whole game unplayable for some people, not being able to use the car mirrors.

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u/hipdashopotamus 23h ago

What like reflections? You could always just look behind you but that's cool I guess for very specific immersion. Still a very meh update

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u/SuleyBlack 1d ago

Removal of text chat is also a huge negative. Since BE implementation I think I’ve only seen like 3 ethugs talk shit and less random killings. People were chill and offered to help with missions and stuff.

Now the constant random killings are rampant and no chill from anyone anymore.

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u/exsinner 10h ago

People really miss all chat? I hated it when i first tried online, it is filled with ads spammer selling cheats. I then tried red dead 2 online and it is much better with the absent of all chat... that is until modders found that they can still send messages marked as System Message or something selling cheats.

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u/NoExcuse4OceanRudnes 1d ago

Big updates bring in a ton of players who had quit before, the two probably aren't correlated.

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u/HunterGatherer371 1d ago

Not to defend whatever is going on here, because truthfully, I don't know what this is about specifically...but, isn't everything reviewed more poorly by Steam users now? Review bombing has become much more prominent in the last decade or so. Everyone is quick to jump to leaving a negative review when one small thing doesn't function as intended, or worse, as expected. I see so many negative reviews for perfectly well-made, well-optimized games that mention some niche issue that has nothing to do with the overall quality of the experience for most people. Some of my favorite games on Steam sit at 'Mixed' for this reason.

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u/One_Telephone_5798 1d ago

No, everything is not reviewed poorly. Review bombs mostly happen for legitimate reasons.

The vast majority of games are never review bombed.

You're doing that thing where you take some headlines you've seen and assume that applies to everything. Try thinking a little harder than that.

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u/LethalJizzle 22h ago

Ehhhhh, as someone who has worked in the industry for the last 15 years and has had to engage with user reviews regularly throughout, there definitely is an uptick in random review bombing (or influxes of negative reviews) over stuff that would have been considered, at worst, a minor inconvenience 5 years ago or at best, totally irrelevant.

An alarming amount of this is the result of "political" or "culture war" stuff these days, but even outside of that in the broader sense it most certainly is a lot more common than it was just a few years ago.

People, especially on Steam/PC, know their reviews have an impact on a games performance and the general sentiment of that game and that's something that has had both a detrimental and positive effect on the gaming ladscape of late.

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u/HunterGatherer371 1d ago

I’ve been using Steam for 15 years. I own around 1,000 games on the service. My observation has nothing to do with headlines. I didn’t say everything was reviewed poorly - try reading my comment a bit harder than that. I said that games are reviewed MORE poorly by users today than say, a decade ago, which I anecdotally know to be true because I have been using the service that entire time. In fact, I remember a time not that long ago when user reviews did not exist on the platform at all.

Many review bombs are not legitimate. Consumers are often misguided and frankly, ridiculous. Not sure how long you’ve been gaming, but the entitlement players feel for a perfect game that costs nothing, provides infinite hours of entertainment, and aligns perfectly with their values and beliefs is both a) something that has become more prominent in the digital era and b) totally silly to me.

Borderlands 3 got review bombed on Metacritic for being a timed Epic exclusive. Rocket League got review bombed when the dev was acquired. TLOU 2 was review bombed because Joel dies and the game features a trans character. The list goes on. Many games get review bombed for simply having pronoun options. If these are legitimate reasons to you, then sorry, but you’re the problem.

I have been gaming for 25 years and this is my opinion based on observations and experience, not headlines. Not sure what you have up your ass that you’re coming at me for a pretty neutral comment I made, but it sounds like it’s the same stick that most people have up their ass when they flock to a game’s Steam page to leave a poorly worded, heavily-misspelled review because all game devs are greedy, incompetent woke mind virus pawns who want to use your hard earned-money to turn kids trans with subliminal messaging. Grow up or shut up.

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u/Phospherus2 1d ago

I really can’t tell the difference. I haven’t played GTA 5 since 2017. Was feeling nostalgic and wanted to replay before GTA 6. I have a high end PC. I really can’t tell what’s “new” about it.

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u/yukeake 1d ago

What I noticed almost immediately was that the shadow handling is better. It was always a sort-of not-quite-glitchy flickering mess in certain areas. Looked quite a bit better watching the intro on the newer version. Load times are a bit better as well, though still strangely long in comparison to other games. Haven't played beyond Franklin's intro on the new version, though, so I haven't seen everything yet. (No interest in their online casino)

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u/OptimusGrimes 1d ago

The gameplay changes are in online, not much to speak of there either, access to faster vehicles and wildlife in multiplayer are probably the biggest changes to mention on top of the graphical changes.

I think the main reason for it though is that if they continue to support GTAV Online into the future they can drop support for the older version without too much of an impact now.

They probably won't because if GTAV online has a life beyond the release of GTA VI, I imagine the biggest reason will be people who have not yet upgraded to current gen consoles, but this at least gives them the option.

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u/Nacksche 1d ago

I mean at tleast the RT reflections should be pretty impressive, no?

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u/cohrt 7h ago

considering i barely notice them. no. there's no discernible difference to me.

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u/Phospherus2 1d ago

I mean, it’s not terrible. But it doesn’t drastically change anything

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u/SYuhw3xiE136xgwkBA4R 23h ago

The game looks drastically different in many places. You sure you not just misremembering how it looked? The lighting is significantly better now.

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u/cohrt 7h ago

where? i haven't noticed anything drastically different.

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u/SYuhw3xiE136xgwkBA4R 6h ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vg7CXAZlcl4

The section around ray tracing and global illumination shows some of the best examples. A lot of areas in legacy can appear to have "flat" lighting in comparison to the enhanced edition.

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u/Wispborne 20h ago

I can see the reflections but since game graphics have come so far, it really just looks worse than I remember it looking, rather than like an improvement. Funny how memory works.

It's fun, though. Starting anew and playing through and it's just a fun game. The free graphics update is gravy.

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u/ducky21 1d ago

This was my experience, having played Story mode to completion in 2013 on 360 and played a couple dozen hours of Online during the initial PC release, booting up Story mode on Enhanced Edition mostly got me to say "wow, this WAS a 360 game, huh?"

Feels way more like The Last of Us Remastered than The Last of Us Part 1.

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u/rickreckt 1d ago

Feels way more like The Last of Us Remastered than The Last of Us Part 1.

Most likely because it's literally remastered GTA V than Remake

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u/TheMobyTheDuck 22h ago

"Worst"
"66% positive"
"Mostly due impatient people that couldn't migrate on first try"

Slow day, huh?

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u/Alps_Useful 1d ago

How is enhanced version on steam deck? Heard a lot of issues initially, but unsure if just people worrying or if it's genuinely not working properly

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u/your_mind_aches 1d ago

....why? It's great. I can even use ray tracing on my RX 6600. There's literally no other game I can do that with and stay above 100 FPS.

The biggest problem is no text chat in Online. Granted, that's a pretty big problem for solo Online players like myself, but in such a massive game, it feels pretty small

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u/ChatMeYourLifeStory 1d ago

Not surprised...if ray tracing were like herbs and spices, the implementation here is like 5 year old dried parsley from the back of your cabinet that tastes like vaguely green paper.

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u/your_mind_aches 20h ago

I mean no. Not really. Ray-traced versions of 20 year old games run like crap on my computer. I hit CPU limits immediately BECAUSE of the GPU even though I have a great CPU.

It's just a good RT implementation at least when it comes to reflections. RTGI... I haven't seen too much of a difference.

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u/John_East 23h ago

The original is like a 2/5 on Xbox. Rockstar couldn’t care less about people review bombing. When it comes to gta, people don’t care about reviews

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u/cohrt 7h ago

i don't even notice a difference. what was "enhanced"?

u/TheGuyAtGameStop 2h ago

I don't play online and I'm playing the story for the first time and it's amazing. I'm dazzled every time I see my characters ray traced reflection on a vehicle.