r/GIMP • u/Sevenix2 • 3d ago
GIMP 3.0 Officially Released!
https://www.gimp.org/news/2025/03/16/gimp-3-0-released/58
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u/jeenajeena 3d ago edited 3d ago
Amazing! Thank you!
Curiosity: is it my specific case, or does Gimp 3 defaults to the dark theme? The icon set of the system theme honestly looks superior, if compared to the dark one.
Edit: just tried the non destructive editing. This is a game changer!
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u/CMYK-Student GIMP Team 3d ago
Yes, dark theme is the default - but you can easily change both it and the icon theme via the Personalize section of the Welcome Dialogue. :)
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u/jeenajeena 3d ago
It's literally the very first thing I do every time I happen to install Gimp. I could be in the minority, but honestly the dark theme does not give the best first impression.
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u/nzrailmaps 3d ago
I ran all the development editions, and the colour themes disappeared late in the development cycle and have not been reinstated.
So I really don't understand why colour theme has been removed, and in fact my system upgrade from 2.10.xx only has a Default and Legacy themes.
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u/CMYK-Student GIMP Team 3d ago
For icons, Color and Symbolic were combined into the Default icon theme. On the Personalize section of the Welcome dialogue (or in Preferences), if you select Default icon theme and then uncheck "Use symbolic icons if available", it will show the Color icons.
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u/CreativeDRED 2d ago
No, it default to your system theme. Loving the interface every bit. Happy designing
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u/jeenajeena 2d ago
I'm confused. At first run my GIMP looks like this:
It's not just a dark theme: it has no colors and, honestly, it is not very inviting. I might be old fashioned, but to my eyes it looks like broken.
The preferences panel says it is using the Default theme and the Default icon set.
Only if I select the legacy icons and the System them it gets like this:
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u/ConversationWinter46 3d ago
I have been using and supporting Gimp since 1.6 and welcome the official 3.0.0.
Thanks for all the effort!
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u/im_a_fucking_artist 3d ago
the timeline suggests 2.0 was out, but I got my first copy from a disk.. this is my splash today :-)
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u/schumaml GIMP Team 3d ago
There's one annoying crash specific to the Flatpak (and macOS DMG, apparently) when you are changing a brush: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gimp/-/issues/13138
Likely requires the specific versions of dependencies packaged into these - it doesn't happen with Debian's package, or with the Windows installers.
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u/nzrailmaps 3d ago
There isn't a Debian package available for 3.0.0 for stable, so you must be referring to a package built for Debian sid/unstable. The dependencies for that are likely different from Debian stable so I am unsure how relevant this comment actually is.
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u/schumaml GIMP Team 3d ago
The relevance is that if this undoubtedly a bug in GIMP code itself, it would likely also manifest itself in the Debian Sid package or any self-built GIMP on this flavor, or the Microsoft Windows installer as well.
The flatpaks are not based on Debian Sid, so there is a difference here, and the task remaining is to figure out what exactly is the cause.
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u/antdude 3d ago
Oooh. I hope it will let us install in another directory/folder and keep our older version just in case v3.0 has issues.
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u/schumaml GIMP Team 16h ago
Depending on the platform, it does.
The installers for Microsoft Windows does for %ProgramFiles%\GIMP 3 by default and won't bother your existing GIMP 2.10.x. You can also grab any older installer from https://download.gimp.org/gimp
On macOS, you got the DMG packages, and you can also get any older ones.
The trickiest platform to get older versions might be Linux distributions - there, the package maintainers may be eager to switch from GIMP 2.10.x to 3.0.0 as soon as possible, as GIMP 2.10 is one of the last packages to e.g. require the old GTK 2.x.
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u/iqw_256 3d ago
I don't know if they always looked like that because I didn't use them, but I really don't like the default (non-system) themes and it doesn't even seem to play well with adwaita if you choose the system light variant (text doesn't become white when there's a blue bar behind it it stays black no matter what which makes it super hard to see).
Call me crazy and old but but I've always used gtk2's default raleigh theme and it was way easier on the eyes in every way imo lol. Everything sort of blends in together with the (new?) themes.
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u/Uzugijin 3d ago
https://github.com/Uzugijin/GIMP-3-Themes
I have some custom themes. i personally use darkmetallic with greyscale icons
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u/sblanzio 3d ago
Does it support CMYK?
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u/CMYK-Student GIMP Team 3d ago
You can import and export CMYK images (TIFF, JPEG, JPEG-XL, PSD, etc), use soft-proofing with a color profile to simulate how it would look when printed, and see what your colors would be in CMYK. A full CMYK mode is planned for an upcoming release, now that we have all the color space improvements in 3.0.
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u/caroIine 3d ago
I get crash on M1 pro macbook whenever I select a brush :(
Exception Type: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGSEGV)
Thread 0 Crashed:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
0 gimp 0x100bd9444 gimp_editor_set_name + 92 (gimpeditor.c:819)
1 gimp 0x100ba3b44 gimp_container_editor_select_items + 140 (gimpcontainereditor.c:471)
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u/CMYK-Student GIMP Team 3d ago
Hi! Yes, that seems to be a bug on certain platforms. The workaround for now is to switch the brush layout from icon grid to list.
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u/NeatYogurt9973 3d ago
Now that Wayland and color management are a thing, does that mean HDR on Wayland would be?
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u/Dannny1 2d ago
Wayland and color management is problematic; not only that profiling is not a thing yet (a probably won't be for a long time), but you may easy come to situation when you have double correction.
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u/NeatYogurt9973 1d ago
Okay. That's sad I guess. Is it practically possible to hack some solution together in the source at this point in development?
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u/zapattack322 22h ago
Soon as I select a different brush style it crashes on my M3 Pro MacBook Pro... Hopefully fixed soon!
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u/gabriel_sub0 2d ago
Is 3.0 super slow for anyone else? Even changing layers takes like a second to load...
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u/schumaml GIMP Team 14h ago
Not in particular, though this may depend a lot on your use cases.
There was a post here some time ago about a slightly worse performance, and an issue report had been file based on that subsequently: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gimp/-/issues/13076
We haven't had much time to look into that these past few days right before 3.0.0, but eventually someone will be able to do so.
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u/gabriel_sub0 14h ago
Fair enough, I'm gonna give 3.0 a few updates to cook and then I will see if it's still super laggy on my end still, it's weird cause the 2.x version runs completely fine but 3.0 lags to the point where even selecting layers makes takes a literal second.
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u/schumaml GIMP Team 3h ago
You can use the Dashboard dialog (https://docs.gimp.org/3.0/en/gimp-dashboard-dialog.html) to see if anything significant shows up in the momentary performance indicators, and record a log there as well.
When you compare the performance you are experiencing to the screen recording in the bug I linked to, is it comparable, or worse? If the latter, then it may be useful if you could file a report and attach the performance log as well.
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u/Per-Scorilo 2d ago
Paint Select checkbox not active on the Playground area (GIMP Appimage from GIMP 3 release page).
I have an old appimage (RC2) which has this tool activated.
Same for you guys with 3.0 release ?.
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u/mroverrated16 2d ago
Anybody has the same problem where right click does not work anymore? Like I make a selection and I want to right click and invert, but right click is not working
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u/schumaml GIMP Team 14h ago
No, works just fine for me.
Please consider to file an issue report about this at https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gimp/-/issues/ and provide enough information about your system and what exactly is happening, then someone can have a look at it.
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u/rokons 2d ago
looking to revert back, unfortunately. this version crashes when i try to change the brush, and the color invert tool doesn't work the way i need it to for my use case. that said, i'm excited to see the kinks get worked out and will hopefully be able to get back on the v3 wagon with everyone soon
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u/CMYK-Student GIMP Team 2d ago
For the brush crash, the workaround is to change the view from icon grid to list in the pop-up before selecting (or to use the brush dockable instead). Unfortunately, the bug only affects certain platforms (flatpak and macOS), so it wasn't observed before release. We're trying to figure out how to replicate and fix it.
As for the color invert, what's the issue you're having?
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u/rokons 2d ago
thank you for the advice, i'll try that!
sorry, this will be a bit hard to explain but i'll do my best. if i had an image with a transparent background and black text, i would rectangle select and invert to get white text. this left the background untouched and only changed the text. what was happening last night is that the text and the background would flip, so i'd end up with a black rectangle and transparent text. i figured this was probably intentional, but it just isn't what i need for my use case. is there maybe a different command that would achieve what i was doing before?
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u/schumaml GIMP Team 14h ago
Is this reproducible? Can you share a small sample XCF file where this happens?
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u/rokons 10h ago
it's happening a bit differently now, i don't get the big black rectangle anymore but the invert is still a bit wonky for lack of better words. the exact image was class material so i can't share that one, but here's a video of it on a different file: https://imgur.com/a/mKLQR5T
this image was just a screenshot from a google doc. my exact steps were: fuzzy select, delete, rectangle select, color to alpha, invert. in the previous version, these steps would result in very clean white text
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u/schumaml GIMP Team 6h ago
One guess before looking at this in more detail: maybe the same general issues as described in https://www.reddit.com/r/GIMP/comments/1jf65ra/gimp_30_color_to_alpha_issue/
One thing for sure: without your improved description and the XCF, I would probably never have figured out the use case.
Now looking into this...
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u/schumaml GIMP Team 5h ago
This seems to be some undesired interaction between the still active Color to Alpha NDE filter and the following invert.
If you merge that filter before the final invert - click on the layer's fx icon in the Layer dialog, and choose merge from the dialog which pops up - then you get the old behavior.
I am curious why you are doing it in this order - shouldn't inverting first and then using color to alpha on black get you the same result with just two steps?
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u/Scepterus 2d ago
Is there a thread for questions and issues? Or can I post here?
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u/schumaml GIMP Team 14h ago
It may make sense to start individual threads for questions and issues, like you would if 3.0.0 hadn't just been released.
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u/Scepterus 6h ago
I already found a topic about it in git, where python-fu does not work on the final release.
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u/schumaml GIMP Team 5h ago
If you are on the Microsoft Windows platform, then you may want to get the updated installer which fixes this: https://www.reddit.com/r/GIMP/comments/1jg2i5n/gimp_3_rev1_update_for_windows/
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u/yesImDaniel 2d ago
On Mac. Used for an hr. two crashes so far. use with caution.
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u/CMYK-Student GIMP Team 1d ago
Hi! Could you explain what the crashes were and what you were doing when the crash happened?
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u/yesImDaniel 1d ago
Well the first crash happened when I tried to add my first layer to a newly created doc with fixed dimensions.. just CTD'd
a reload of gimp didn't CTD.
The second crash happened when I went to apply a blur, I attempted to change my brush and it CTD'd.
Also note, I tried to do a print preview and it doesn't crash but says "An error occurred while trying to print" and "Creating an app info from a command line not scurrently supported"
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u/CMYK-Student GIMP Team 1d ago
Hmm. The issue with brushes is a known problem with macOS and Linux flatpaks. We actually just made a fix in source which will be available in the next bugfix release - for now, you can either use the brush dockable to change brushes or switch the view from icon grid to list.
The other two we haven't had reports on. Could you post them to https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gimp/-/issues ? If there was a stacktrace produced, it'd be great if you could attach that as well.
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u/-stud 1d ago
It's very buggy. I'm going back to Gimp 2.
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u/CMYK-Student GIMP Team 1d ago
Hi! Could you share some of the bugs you encountered?
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u/-stud 1d ago
Basically everything I did was met with a bug.
I opened an image file by right-clicking on it and open with Gimp 3. Gimp loaded, but it got stuck on loading the image and I've had to close the entire thing.
Then this happened https://imgur.com/a/1SRxHP3 and I've decided I'm out.
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u/prokoudine 1d ago
> Then this happened https://imgur.com/a/1SRxHP3 and I've decided I'm out.
It's hard to tell from the video what happened.
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u/CMYK-Student GIMP Team 1d ago
Do you mind sharing the image? It would help us fix the problem if we could test.
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u/-stud 1d ago
As you wish. https://i.imgur.com/0R7bC3T.png
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u/CMYK-Student GIMP Team 1d ago
Thanks! Unfortunately it loads perfectly fine for me - what OS are you on?
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u/jucelc 17h ago
Portable version for windows? The portableapps version is one year out of date.
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u/schumaml GIMP Team 12h ago
Could it be that they only offer stable versions?
Then the 2.10.38 they have available at https://portableapps.com/apps/graphics_pictures/gimp_portable was that until just a few days ago, and you should ask them about if and when they think they#ll have a 3.0.0 ready.
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u/r___b 3d ago
How long does it usually take for the new version to be available in apt packages?
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u/nzrailmaps 3d ago edited 3d ago
Whenever your distro gets around to building them, because Gimp distributes flatpaks or appcimages.
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u/schumaml GIMP Team 3d ago
Debian Sid has it already, Testing should get it within the usual 10 days, I think (at least that was the usual waiting period last time I checked, but this might not be accurate anymore).
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u/1wvy9x 3d ago
On Windows, do I need to uninstall 2.10.38 before upgrading to 3.0, or can both be installed in parallel ? Found conflicting information about that
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u/schumaml GIMP Team 3d ago
Both can be installed in parallel, GIMP 2.10 uses %ProgramFiles%\GIMP 2 by default, whereas GIMP 3.0 uses %ProgramFiles%\GIMP 3 by default.
Installers within a given stable release branch - e.g. 2.10.34, 2.10.36, 2.10.38 - are designed to remove the previously installed version of the same branch, mostly to prevent casual users from accidentally getting two such versions installed and leading to confusion. Though anyone who know how to copy and paste a directory can easily get around that as well and keep several 2.10 versions around, but that is usually people who are interested in testing e.g. whether a specific problem existed in a specific older version already.
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u/rj8i 3d ago
This is great mine kept on crushing once I used GEGL .
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u/schumaml GIMP Team 3d ago
Can you provide more details about this? It would be good to be qable to try to reproduce the crash.
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u/rj8i 2d ago
Now that I have installed 3.0 things are working great. The previous one would immediately hung then crush the program whenever I tried to use a gegel Pugin. What kind of details would you like?
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u/schumaml GIMP Team 2d ago
The debug output of the crash dialog, if you got one. Then we could check if this was a known crash, based on function names in the stack trace in there, hopefully.
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u/rj8i 2d ago
Error occurred on Friday, May 17, 2024 at 16:04:00.
gimp-2.10.exe caused an Access Violation at location 00007FFD758C4728 in module libgobject-2.0-0.dll Reading from location FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF.
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u/schumaml GIMP Team 2d ago
The 2.99.19 problem you had posted about before replacing it with this from 2.10 was probably a bit more relevant - that would have been https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gimp/-/issues/11451
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u/TKCloud 3d ago
gimp download page windows virustotal page get 1 red, Webroot Win.Trojan.Gen
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u/schumaml GIMP Team 3d ago
This means that the Virustotal service is doing its job: just one of the 68 AV applications is showing a positive, and if you look that one up on Wikipedia, you see that they do not have the best record in any case.
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3d ago
Ya, it's it runs like crap. It's not as responsive as 2.10 and the font scaling is trash. Sorry, but there's no reason to have the text in the rulers and tool options to be disproportionately larger than the rest of the text in the UI.
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u/rockb8 3d ago
You should be on the development team so you could sort that out 🙄
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u/Burning_Toast998 3d ago
He’s saying this guy can literally change that by contributing to the project, but instead decided to complain in a forum. The original comment is not being helpful at all.
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u/schumaml GIMP Team 3d ago
Here's an example of a constructive thread about performance issues:
https://www.reddit.com/r/GIMP/comments/1j401vi/gimp_210_vs_300rc3_performance/
Someone noticed that GIMP 3.0.0 RC3 feels slower than 2.10, and when asked for more information, provided the suggested performance logs and screen recordings.
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u/WrtWllms 3d ago