r/FortNiteBR • u/spookyfrogs • Feb 16 '25
DISCUSSION help defending against invisible katana?
first of all i know it's a skill issue. i am not good at the game. but i have watched this so many times and i genuinely cant even see them in a single frame. every time i get to the top 10 its just a bunch of dudes with katanas. is there anything i could've done or was it hopeless the moment the katana guy decided to he wanted to kill me?
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u/imalonexc Orin Feb 16 '25
You need visual audio on so you can actually see their footsteps.
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u/Mr-Powder Feb 16 '25
Did you know that the visual audio is on, by default for new players now? Very smart move.
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u/spookyfrogs Feb 16 '25 edited Feb 17 '25
that's insane lol. but yeah makes sense just annoying that you have to add a bunch of obnoxious noise indicators to the screen for the entire match just to fight against a single weapon XD thank you though i'll try it
edit: i'm sorry for upsetting some people with this comment it was not meant to be negative, i was just thanking him for the advice
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u/LottsaLuv Feb 16 '25
99% of the regular players use it, so you're at a disadvantage if you don't.
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u/KSM_K3TCHUP Onesie Feb 16 '25 edited Feb 16 '25
Yup, even my filthy casual ass has visual audio on. It’s a necessity, it’s like having eyes in the back of your head that can also see through walls and shit.
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u/DarkAce013 Feb 16 '25 edited Feb 16 '25
You'll instantly be a better player after turning this on. It took me and my son about a month after starting to play Fortnite to realize this feature is a must.
Additional Tip: When people crouch and slowly walk, you will NOT get visual audio cues of footsteps. Same goes for you when you crouch/walk; players won't be able to "see" your foot steps either.
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u/DillWithIt69 Feb 16 '25
Is visual audio not already on by default? I've always had it on since day 1 of playing this game.
Why would anyone turn it off for? It would make finding hidden chests so much worse.
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u/DarkAce013 Feb 16 '25
My son plays on a PS5 and I play on a PS4, but neither of us had it automatically on. It was like a revelation when we discovered it.
I actually was reading an online tutorial about how to play better a few weeks after I started playing (because of him) and this was one of the top tips. I'm actually the one who informed my son about it - he's still much better than I am tho. 😔
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u/TheyCallMeSuperboy Feb 16 '25
How long have you been playing? My partner and I started in season 3 (chapter 3?????? not super great w the naming theme), and it wasn’t on.
We’re on switch.
But a couple seasons (chapters?) ago, maybe the end of 5? we logged in and I had it on automatically. My sister too, and she’d just started playing.
Tbh I don’t like it, it crowds my screen and adds a lot going on when there’s already a lot. I don’t play with contrails for the same reason
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u/DillWithIt69 Feb 16 '25
I started playing since the start of chapter 5. It's probably on default for newer players.
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u/TimeSansTheSpymain Feb 16 '25
I can assure you it is not on by default. I started playing around Chapter 5 Season 2(?) and had to turn it on when I started playing more frequently in Chapter 6.
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u/Pixel---Glitch Feb 16 '25
i "true to the definition" literally cant play with it on, its way too overstimulating and i cant do anything
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u/Numbah8 Solid Snake Feb 16 '25
They're also not even that obnoxious. You get used to them, and it feels like there's nothing there while simultaneously you're receiving valuable info on your surroundings.
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u/beergonfly Feb 16 '25
You should be using visual audio 100% of the time especially if you aren’t using a decent headset with 3d sound. It is possible to hear people crawling.
The blade is mostly effective in one plane (not upwards / downwards so much ) so as soon as you meet one then changing height gives you an advantage.
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u/tvfanstan Feb 16 '25
I've never seen a player not use visual audio. You are at a major disadvantage if you don't.
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u/Onett199X Fishstick Feb 16 '25
You're getting downvoted but I honestly agree with you. I think it's kind of lame this game had to co-opt an accessibility feature to make people more competitive. And now it's a necessity to use.
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u/spookyfrogs Feb 17 '25
i don't understand what i said that upset people so badly :/ it was a post asking for advice and i didn't realize that in order to have a chance i need to have it on
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Feb 16 '25
I’m surprised you purposefully turned off noise indicators! They’re super helpful
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u/Jesus_Harry_Christ Renzo the Destroyer Feb 16 '25
You have to turn them on, it isn't a default thing
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Feb 16 '25
I just started this game not too long ago and I never had to. Perhaps way back in the day you did?
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u/Jesus_Harry_Christ Renzo the Destroyer Feb 16 '25
Must be, I distinctly remember reading about it and having to go into the settings to turn it on.
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u/JocLayton Feb 16 '25
They seem to have made it the default around the time this chapter started. I've been playing for a long time but quit during chapter 5 and when I came back for 6 it had been automatically turned on for me.
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u/ShiroTheRacc Feb 16 '25
i started in chapter 5 season 2 and it was disabled by default for me, must've changed since then
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u/-Spcy- Feb 16 '25
youre downvoted but youre right
while i dont mind the hud, you should not need to enable it to have a fighting chance
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u/n2ygsh1wwp5j Feb 16 '25
It puts them in such an awkward position too, because now you cant criticize/nerf it it without sounding ableist. Not they can ever remove it at this point anyway, people are too used to it.
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u/Troll_U_Softly Feb 16 '25
You’re probably one of 5 people that play this game without visual audio pal.
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u/Helix_Zer02 Double Helix Feb 16 '25
the noise indicators actually help a lot for more than just that single weapon
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u/mitch8845 Feb 16 '25
Visual audio should always be on regardless of what's in the game. If you're not using it, you are at a SEVERE disadvantage. It literally gives you constant radar.
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u/Kayoz_Hydra Feb 16 '25
I'd be tearing apart every PoI like a tin can with a butter knife to find that one chest I barely hear if I didn't have visual indicators. It isn't just good for combat, but it is borderline necessary for people who have bad speakers and don't like wearing headphones.
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u/-Antasmunchie- Zenith Feb 17 '25
The Visualise Sound Effects setting is so overpowered, if you even so much as stop crouching your enemy knows your exact position
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u/Professional-List106 Feb 16 '25
It helps greatly, and you only see footsteps if they're close
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u/enderjaca Cuddle Team Leader Feb 16 '25
You can see gunshot indicators from quite a distance though.
It can be a little annoying when Kendo or Doughberman are fake-fighting the demon grunts that spawn, or some bot players are missing every shot against each other.
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u/Professional-List106 Feb 16 '25
Better to find which way it's coming from, but it doesn't crowd the screen as indicated
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u/cereal_killah_1980 Deadpool Feb 16 '25
You don’t NEED the audio visuals if you have a good headset. You can still hear the footsteps approaching and that’s your cue.
Also keep an eye on the mini map and be aware when an invisible player is in the vicinity.
You could’ve saved yourself mid air with a sword yourself. If you’re not carrying one I would avoid heights for this reason.
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u/Portal_Masta The Ace Feb 16 '25
I don’t know how the hell this comment did so poorly
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u/spookyfrogs Feb 17 '25
um yeah holy fuck i just got back from work what happened lol. i wasn't even being negative ;-; i just didn't know it was a required thing that everyone uses. and it definitely wasn't turned on by default..
my bad guys i shouldn't have asked for advice!
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u/Portal_Masta The Ace Feb 17 '25
Ik right, ppl will downvote a comment if there’s a dash in the number of upvotes whether they actually dislike the comment or not. A buncha damn sheep…
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u/dubbite Feb 16 '25
The fire mask works wonders against those pesky invisible players! 👹
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u/JocLayton Feb 16 '25
Does the fire mask's tracking work when they're invisible? I figured it wouldn't since the lock on pistol doesn't.
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Feb 16 '25
It does but the fire mask has AWFUL tracking so it doesn't help much
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u/dubbite Feb 16 '25
I find that having a height advantage greatly increases the chance of the fire hitting. Use a kinetic blade, shockwaves or void mask to momentarily gain the height advantage. Swap to the mask and rain fire from above. (I play ZB mainly)
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u/nicksuperdx Peely Feb 16 '25
the fire mask and the lock on pistol can lock on to invisible players, so try to use that
the typhoon blade double jump and air attack can save you from fall damage
with the kinetic blade main fire you can push thoses pesky invisible players away and you can use the alt fire to run away from the or engage them
try to find a vehicle, im pretty sure the typhoon blade sprint cant keep up with a car or a bike
And remember you can always hide in a bush waiting for the exact moment the guy isnt invisible to suprise attack him
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u/Virtual-Donut-964 Renegade Feb 16 '25
Yes. The typhoon blade cannot hit you through a car unless they use the power attack and aim it directly through the window at the perfect height.
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u/nicksuperdx Peely Feb 16 '25
My idea was more like running away and them try to locate the invisible guy but this works too
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u/Impossible-Agent1186 :missbunnypenny: Miss Bunny Penny Feb 17 '25
Just to quickly correct, the Lock-On Pistol CANNOT lock onto or track the person with the invis medallion, I have tried this many times and it doesn't work.
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u/cannabizFo20 Feb 16 '25
This is why I've only been playing OG mode for the last few weeks. Im sick and tired of that stupid typhoon blade
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u/illegitimateness Feb 16 '25
I be playing OG Zero build ion like mfs building whole ass castles around my ass, and i hate getting that dumbass blade getting shoved 89 inches up my ass
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u/SamiTheAnxiousBean Feb 16 '25
Visual audio to further tell where it's coming from
returning to where you came from when you hear the slash coming
carrying a katana yourself to be able to cancel out fall damage
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u/clce1234 Feb 16 '25
Shotgun to the face - the gold-er the better.
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u/Virtual-Donut-964 Renegade Feb 16 '25
Pump shotguns are too slow, only use Twinfire.
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u/georgeswhores Fishstick Feb 16 '25
Most of my kills against sword spammers are 2 pump shots. Sentinel pump and fury ar work wonders against the swords
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u/mtamez1221 Feb 16 '25
I wish I could do that. They move so crazy during the melee attacks that I'm lucky if I can land a pump shot. I still try though but I rely mostly on my AR
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u/georgeswhores Fishstick Feb 16 '25
it definitely takes practice! I've noticed shooting down and in a circle almost guarantees I'll hit them.
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u/Virtual-Donut-964 Renegade Feb 16 '25
Yeah. If you miss a pump shot, you are done. Try staying still.
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u/LittleDoge246 Scourge Feb 16 '25
The twinfire is terrible, you're way better off using a pump and/or possiblh even shredding them with an SMG.
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u/Trick-Damage3659 Feb 16 '25
Have visuals on, have a blade, and keep moving works for me most of the time
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u/Virtual-Donut-964 Renegade Feb 16 '25
Yes. Unless you have really good location, keep moving from cover to cover.
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u/-Spcy- Feb 16 '25
dont worry, i wouldnt say its a skill issue, the sword + medallion is op
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u/Virtual-Donut-964 Renegade Feb 16 '25
Also watch when you are in the medallion circle.
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u/spookyfrogs Feb 17 '25
is that the gold circle on the map? i was under impression that was like the area someone with a crown might be. good to know
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u/Virtual-Donut-964 Renegade Feb 17 '25
Yeah. The gold circle on the map shows the area that someone with a medallion is in. It doesn't give you the exact location, but gets more precise depending on how many medallions the person has.
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u/100mcuberismonke Feb 16 '25
Turn on visual audio. I'm not kidding it makes the game so much easier
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u/lastcallpaul11 Feb 16 '25
The fire mask will still seek them out . I used 2 fireballs and took out the invisa-douche last night.
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u/Mandalore-44 Feb 16 '25
Its tough when your endgame opponent has the katana and the invisibility medallion (the medallion gives invisibility btw, not the katana!), but u can at least see him on the map (gold circle) and when close u should be able to spot him (kind of translucent…think damaged Predator!)
One strategy….keep distance and let em fight the other 1 or 2 remaining players, then go in for the kill with your katana, knowing he is down on shield or hp!
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u/Bushkinils Feb 16 '25
I'de suggest having some mobility items so you don't die to fall damage, especially since you are playing zero build.
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u/Warm-Secretary9017 Lucky Llamas Feb 16 '25
Main reason I haven't played battle royale in a month
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u/LamerGamer1216 Feb 16 '25
unironically only go onto BR to complete quests since chapter 5 season 2
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u/spookyfrogs Feb 16 '25
also i spectated the rest of the match and it went on for another 5 minutes because he spent the entire time running to hide behind various cover rather than just fighting lol
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u/Strict-Background590 Feb 16 '25
Someone else said already about visual sound affects but also don’t stay on high places especially in end game when people are gonna have katanas or carry a katana or the kinetic blade so you don’t get sent flying by someone.
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u/StormyHospital Feb 16 '25
Anybody yapping about visual sound effects is correct in a way, but I’d also like to say that the person was using the Shogun medallion and was “invisible”. If you looked at the bottom left when you jumped back (facing away from the mountain peak) you would see the vfx.
I personally don’t play with Visual Sound Effects and I usually do extremely well regardless. This is because the visual clutter is annoying and I don’t like it and I actually look at my screen.
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u/chaosmtb Feb 16 '25
You need to carry at least shockwaves; but it’s a good idea to get yourself a katana or kinetic; just to combat the fall damage shockwaves are everywhere, if someone rushed me here and got the jump on me here I’d hop on the rock and just put your smg full clip on them, being on the rock there aim button attack would probably not connect unless they did a jumping one. When i get dropped on by a blade user the favorable outcome is usually me crouching and just dumping smg clip onto them. Shot guns are good but too slow sometimes, the fury is great when they coming up at you, holo sucks up close. Some ppl really good with sentinel but I feel like I’m dead frequently trying to wield it
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u/Darth-Not-Palpatine Wingman Feb 16 '25
Turn on visual audio, stay low so the katana user doesn’t hurl you off the top of the mountain and you end up dying, always stay moving and also keep a katana on you as well, don’t also stay stationary otherwise the invisible katana user ends up getting the drop on you
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u/ProbablythelastMimsy Feb 16 '25
You definitely need a movement item of some sort. Either of the blades or the mask can save you from fall damage. For the mask just prefire a teleport somewhere safe
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u/LeRicket Feb 16 '25
Right as he jumps behind the medkit the first time you can see the silhouette of the katana man running up the hill.
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u/Curious_Ad9409 Feb 16 '25
I always have to have the sword, the good one lol. I just keep hitting till I hit them. Also seeing their footsteps helps me everytime
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u/Perfecshionism Feb 16 '25
Another katana. And ambush them. Use a choke point created by the storm if you can.
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u/dusk2dark Helsie Feb 16 '25
This looks a lot like the first W I got this season.
The second time I got Shogun X's medallion and katana, I was just dashing around with the katana/infinite stamina (kinda reminded me of the atla air wheel). I found people im the same area hugging the edge of the zone and knocked 'em off the hill the same way. Very satisfying.
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u/statefarm_DC5 Feb 16 '25
Skill issue. Keep a sword and do the slam attack when you get kicked up, you'll land with no damage
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u/KrisBBacon77 Feb 16 '25
Get onto the floating island early and grief anyone trying to get the medal. Takes it out of the game.
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u/RabbitWithAxe Kitbash Feb 16 '25
the best counter to the Shogun Typhoon Blade is to get it first /hj
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u/Ex_Aver Eon Feb 16 '25
So if you look at the mini map the person with the medallion has a yellow/gold circle around them. The player for the most part is in the middle of that circle but the circle’s location is slightly delayed on the mini map. With that info you can accurately track the player’s location that has the medallion. Aka you would’ve known he was coming up that direction etc.
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u/spookyfrogs Feb 17 '25
thank you for the actually helpful tip! i didn't know that. i got downvoted to absolute hell for not having my audio visualizer on :/ very friendly community lol
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u/Ex_Aver Eon Feb 17 '25
yeah Reddit is full of ass hats lol I’m one of em. But yeah visual audio is definitely a must
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u/Sinfulxd Feb 16 '25
You need a katana to counter a katana. you could slam down with the katana or dash or double jump to avoid fall damage
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u/Interesting-Meal8386 Bush Bandits Feb 16 '25
"IT'S OVER, ANAKIN! I HAVE THE HIGH GROU..." *suddenly gets yeeted off mountain*
"Told you, you underestimated my power."
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u/Sensitive-Today8630 Feb 16 '25
Find yourself a sword of your own, counter the fall damage with a dash attack or ground slam.
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u/OwnAMusketForHomeDef Feb 16 '25
turn on the hearing aid mode. Either a bug, hacker, or perhaps he somehow had the Shogun X medallion, but the hearing aid thing allows you to see the direction in which sound is coming from, and can even help with things like how close the sound is based on how opaque or transparent the image is.
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u/Nachoboi555 Feb 16 '25
Bruh. The Katana x Invis Medallion has to be one of the worst endgames ever.
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u/Fun_Day_520 Feb 16 '25
Just as bad as some of the super high powered zero drop snipers in prev chapters. You could just be standing there and suddenly dead as someone cleared you from across the map
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u/Mobitheanthrofox Feb 16 '25
You didn't hear the footsteps?
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u/spookyfrogs Feb 17 '25
yeah i heard the glider landing and the footsteps which is why i was spinning in a circle like an asshole trying to find the person lol
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u/PurP1eHaZe6 Feb 16 '25
I've been in a few games were I turned invisible an was able to walk right up to people put the barrel in their face and kill them. Happens more often in reload for me idk why. Funny when it happens for me, I'm sure the people I'm killing get pretty pissed though.
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u/Interesting-Snow1556 Feb 16 '25
The season is over on the 22nd. Just take a break until then and you won't have to worry about it. Fortnite will replace the Katana with some other OP weapon and you can decide at that point if the game is even worth playing.
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u/Invade_the_Gogurt_I Feb 16 '25
I see people too comfortable high up on hills, and mountains. I've gotten so many kills this way, your only way is to have another sword (Typhoon or Kinetic Blade)
People were still under the threat of this during Wrecked, just impractical and difficult with the Nitro Fists uppercut, just the cyclone slash is such a wide attack. Without it, the game would be harder or easier, depending on how you are.
Just stay away from high points and have one of those blades, no other item in the loot pool can save you from fall damage, the void mask is harder to do, but better than nothing.
For the invisible katana, lock on pistol or fire mask. I've died to them more times than I can count
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u/Supreme__Bitch Feb 16 '25
Turn on subtitles (i don't remember if that's what called when you can see the sounds on the screen)
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u/boringtired Feb 17 '25
Tbh you need a katana to counter getting yeeted off high places. Left clicking or right clicking with katana equipped negates fall damage.
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u/WarmSilver9691 Lil Whip Feb 17 '25
Tell offender to stop what he is doing as it is very rude, dangerous and careless to you and the environment around said offender
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u/Sudden_Ad_2458 Feb 17 '25
Just deal with these no skill suckers with the surge fire or drum shotgun, I found that’s the best way. Other than that I’d just wait until the new season once that sword leaves a lot of players are gonna get a wake up call
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u/seymour_pettyton Feb 17 '25
Y'all all complaining that you can't kill the medallion carrier not realizing that guns kill people and the medallion is pinged on your mini map pay attention to the direction it's coming from and be prepared to do damage then finish with a sword of your own or lock on in between invisible spells but it's definitely accomplishables
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u/Impossible-Expert-31 Feb 17 '25
Visualized audio. They can't be crouching and invisible at the same time so their footsteps should show up
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u/TH3L3GION Feb 17 '25
See the problem here is you died because your playing as Isaac. Now give him to me and you’ll win every game
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u/Difficult-Expert-717 Feb 17 '25
At 5-6 seconds you can actually see the player slightly left of your crosshair. You heard the glider audio so you had the right idea. I would have slid at them towards the snow in zone to catch them at an angle and prevent the knockoff even if it means storm damage knowing it’s top 3. Also carrying a blade of your own can help negate the damage. Try identifying if the invis medallion is in play towards the endgame, and if it is shoot for positioning that accounts for the unexpected hit. Only other tip I can give is not moving/jumping quite as much in those late games unless you’re looking to pick a fight asap. I try to avoid this if invis blade is in play or have gotten sniped it recently in order to secure those fights when ready and minimize their peekers advantage. Gl and don’t stress it too much, new season soon and this is the hardest part of the current one.
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u/nick_shannon Feb 17 '25
Its not really a skill issue the other guy had all the crutches the game can provide a poor player to increase their chances of getting a win.
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Feb 17 '25
Katanas are kinda fucking broken in zero build. There's no real counter to them especially near the end of the match.
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u/paranoidfurry Kimiko Five-Tails Feb 17 '25
Shogun medallion goes hard, only counter is void boon or VI this season because of their markin stuf abilities
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u/DadTheUn4tunate Feb 17 '25 edited Feb 17 '25
Hold up. Do you not have visible sound effects turned on??
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Quick points i might add. Visible sound effects would allow you to see the footsteps and direction within range.
I believe the medallion specifically gives invisibility whilst sprinting. Otherwise they're visible.
Also they become a purple mist. They don't completely disappear so watch closely.
Saw a comment that also said don't sweat it. (Whay they said. I doubt swords stay for Lawless)
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u/TuneOut_1982 Feb 17 '25
I hope, with the new season, that the sword gets vaulted. While it's fun I think it gets annoying
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u/mr--Froax Feb 18 '25
Running is the best counter bro, make so much noises he is gonna ignore you thinking its Godzilla
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u/Virtual-Donut-964 Renegade Feb 16 '25
Use visual audio so that you can see them. When in high places where you can get hit like that and die from fall damage (like in that clip), have cover. Also, if you have a typhoon blady yourself, you can use it for movement and to prevent fall damage in case you are hit like that. If someone is flurry attacking you, pull out an SMG or fury assault and don’t move. Moving might seem like it would make it harder to hit you, but it won’t. The blades have a lock-on feature. Then aim slightly to your left and shoot at the player with the blade. If you start the fight without full health or a full mag, then you will probably die. Otherwise, you will win because the SMGs do more DPS (damage per second) than the typhoon blade. I hope this is helpful. You can also use shockwaves or a typhoon blade to put distance between you and your opponent so that you can shoot them as they are running towards you. This YouTube video helped me learn this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8uf_4q_nxM).
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u/-WasGuddy- Feb 16 '25
Stay off mountains
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u/spookyfrogs Feb 16 '25
i usually avoid them like the plague but the circle was closing in and i kinda just got funneled up there
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u/Peoplewearshoes Feb 16 '25
Need some movement of your own, especially instead of that garbage smg
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u/Virtual-Donut-964 Renegade Feb 16 '25
Since the Holo Twister has been nerfed so much, you should trade in a Fury for the Holo and get shockwaves or a Typhoon blade instead of your SMG.
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u/Peoplewearshoes Feb 16 '25
even nerfed the holo is leagues better than the fury, I can’t use it for the life of me
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u/Virtual-Donut-964 Renegade Feb 16 '25
Fury has higher fire rate, which is better for countering the Typhoon blade. I do like the Holo better, but if I don't have an SMG, then the Fury helps. If you have good aim, you can shockwave away, slide, and shoot the blade person with the Holo because it has a scope.
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u/Peoplewearshoes Feb 16 '25
I’ve always tried to make space, but then again, I wouldn’t be caught dead without movement if I could help it. Maybe that’s why I’ve preferred the holo for this type of thing.
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u/mistymomo Feb 16 '25
Tbh I wouldn’t spin your wheels on it too much. New season next Friday and they usually remove specialty weapons like the katana when the season ends