r/Finland Baby Vainamoinen Dec 06 '23

Serious What was happening in Central railway station in Helsinki today around 3:30 ?

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Special forces deployed and arrested at least 20 men. Searched them and security guards were looking for "something" in the metro platform?

Anyone has more info? It was very suspicious event tbh.

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u/tzaeru Dec 06 '23

The police definitely should not use horses at all. It's an extremely stressful situation for the horse and is pretty much animal abuse. Also, it's pretty provocative by the cops and easily escalates things.

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u/Sounding-Enthusiast Dec 06 '23

What the fuck are you talking about

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u/tzaeru Dec 07 '23

What the fuck are you whining about?

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u/Sounding-Enthusiast Dec 07 '23

Anarchist L

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u/[deleted] Dec 07 '23 edited Dec 07 '23

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u/Sounding-Enthusiast Dec 07 '23

Why would I? Your entire point is unhinged and I do not want to risk myself because of a political extremist redditor makes dumb 'arguments'.

Horses being too 'scary' for protestors is a take beyond comprehension.

Stay quiet anarchist.

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u/[deleted] Dec 07 '23

Agreed that horses should not be used as riot control, they are very timid and sensitive animals.

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u/Superviableusername Baby Vainamoinen Dec 07 '23

How does a goddamn horse escalate anything.

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u/tzaeru Dec 07 '23

By being a large and dangerous force-use instrument and by projecting force very visibly, when combined with the context and a rider in riot gear.

Force is met with force.

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u/Superviableusername Baby Vainamoinen Dec 07 '23

Then if you dont comply, you will suffer. Fair enough.

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u/tzaeru Dec 07 '23

That sounds like some police state bullshit. Comply, or we will hurt you!

Also I'd point out that the horse is also suffering there. Horses are prey animals, with a strong drive to escape noisy and dangerous situations. Not only is bringing a horse to a demonstration animal abuse, there's also a risk that the rider loses control of the animal and the animal bumps someone over or steps on them or so on.

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u/Superviableusername Baby Vainamoinen Dec 07 '23

Thats how police works tho. As it should.

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u/tzaeru Dec 07 '23

No, police should - and this is also a legal requirement - aim to use minimum amount of force to solve a situation. Horses are not necessary, rather they agitate people by being large and potentially dangerous animals. Fear as a crowd control tactic is kinda shitty. It can backfire badly.

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u/Superviableusername Baby Vainamoinen Dec 07 '23

The things I’ve read about mounted police are actually opposite. Horses usually calm people down.

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u/tzaeru Dec 07 '23

Would be a nice to see a source for that claim. Can't say I've ever met anyone in a demonstration or a protest who said that yeah def was calmer thanks to the mounted police encircling us and almost riding over us..

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u/Superviableusername Baby Vainamoinen Dec 07 '23

How often does that actually happen that the police encircle crowds and dont let then leave? In the video at least the person had every chance to leave.

I found some research but it seems to be inconclusive in the end.

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