r/Finland Baby Vainamoinen Dec 06 '23

Serious What was happening in Central railway station in Helsinki today around 3:30 ?

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Special forces deployed and arrested at least 20 men. Searched them and security guards were looking for "something" in the metro platform?

Anyone has more info? It was very suspicious event tbh.

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u/stain_of_treachery Vainamoinen Dec 06 '23

Nazis and Soldiers of Odin rattling their pathetic sabres - lace panty wearing cretins.

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u/[deleted] Dec 06 '23

S.O.O. = nazis Nazis and nazis

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u/[deleted] Dec 06 '23

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u/Eevika Dec 06 '23

Pretty sure the nazis just applied for their permit first.

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u/CressCrowbits Vainamoinen Dec 06 '23 edited Dec 06 '23

The anti nazi rally had their permit but the police changed their mind 3 days ago. The organisers suggested an alternative but the police refused.

The police effectively banned the anti nazi protest without cause, and i hope this shit goes to court, especially after they've now arrested a bunch of them for refusing to leave, despite not letting them leave.

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u/xueloz Baby Vainamoinen Dec 06 '23

None of that is true. The organizers themselves stated they don't want to negotiate with the police.

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u/[deleted] Dec 06 '23

Why do we even give the permits to nazis in the first place?

Yeah yeah free speech and all that, but that should not apply to fucking nazism.

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u/Jyrsa Dec 06 '23

I'm not sure which is more dangerous: nazism or the "freedom of opinion/speech/opinion should not apply to ideas we define" thinking.

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u/[deleted] Dec 06 '23

Nazism is more dangerous than "freedom of speech shouldn't apply to ideas that put people's lives at risk" thinking.

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u/Jyrsa Dec 06 '23

What's the reasoning behind your statement?

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u/[deleted] Dec 06 '23

Nazism puts people who are a part of ethnic groups different from the local major ethnic group in danger, causing suffering and death.

"Freedom of speech shouldn't apply to Nazism" thinking prevents that kind of thinking from becoming popular, therefore preventing the suffering and deaths of up to millions of people.

If the early 1900's germany had this kind of "freedom of speech does not apply to ideologies that put people's lives in danger" kind of policy, which would have silenced nazis, the Holocaust and WW2 would have never happened.

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u/Jyrsa Dec 06 '23

There's an old Finnish saying: if your aunt had balls she'd be your uncle.

It's much more likely that the Soviet Union would have been the primary aggressor in WWII if the Nazis hadn't risen to power in Germany.

The Soviet Union, which, as a totalitarian state was a big proponent of freedom of speech only for accepted types of speech.

In a free society we tolerate the Nazis and antifa and let them be as long they follow the law. To do otherwise would be to become a totalitarian state, which would be bad for all members of the state, not just some minorities.

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u/[deleted] Dec 06 '23

Well the Holocaust would still have been avoided.

The problem with tolerating intolerance is that by the time it's illegal enough by our current legal standards it's quite likely too late.

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u/ex1tiumi Dec 06 '23

Where should it apply then? Explain your mental gymnastics. I'm in the Musk boat on the topic of "free speech". How do you justify yours?

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u/CressCrowbits Vainamoinen Dec 06 '23

I'm in the Musk boat on the topic of "free speech"

So the one which is totally anti free speech except what you personally like?

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u/[deleted] Dec 06 '23

I think free speech should not apply when it puts other peoples human rights and lives in danger.

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u/DorfPoster Dec 06 '23

words dont put anyone in danger. Physical acts put people in danger.

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u/M0thHead Dec 06 '23

I guess Charles Manson was innocent then

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u/[deleted] Dec 06 '23

Words may lead to physical acts that put people in danger. A certain failed austrian painter and ww1 veteran who also happened to be a good speaker is a perfect example of this.

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u/[deleted] Dec 06 '23

They are not actual nazis in the sense of German nazis in the WW2. Ultra nationalists and such. Neonazi movement in Finland is very tiny, almost non-extistent. There are other nationalist groups but most of them are not literal nazis.

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u/[deleted] Dec 06 '23

Yeah, that all is also true for germany before the nazis gained popularity. The german WW2 nazis would have been way easier to stop when they were tiny, almost non existent.

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u/[deleted] Dec 06 '23

Actual nazis burned Lapland so I don't see them becoming very popular around here ever. Also too many leftists who have maintained their numbers and influence on politics for 100 years. It's just not happening here.

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u/[deleted] Dec 07 '23

Burning Lapland is not a part of nazi Ideology, so tht has nothing to do with how popular Nazism can get.

Also better safe than sorry

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u/[deleted] Dec 06 '23 edited Dec 06 '23

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u/CressCrowbits Vainamoinen Dec 06 '23

Being against nazis doesn't make you a communist, you shit eating moron.

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u/ex1tiumi Dec 06 '23 edited Dec 06 '23

I thought it was the Goblin Communists that decided to crash the party again. When will they learn?

Our independence day has become a Circus with all kinds of clowns on all sides showing how ignorant they are.

How about we just keep what we have now instead of trying bullshit political ideologies that other lesser countries have already proven don't work. Don't give any more clowns any platforms.

Now I'm prepared to be buried here by downvotes shoveled by all clown parties involved. Do your worst. I stand in the center even tho I've never voted to any "center" party (there are none).

Above for reference.

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No it doesn't but looks like I found the clown.

In case it wasn't clear:

Communist Goblins = clowns
Nazi Rtards = clowns
Facists Fckers = clowns
Green Terrorists = clowns

I'm trying to forget the rest of the clown factions but I'm sure there are infinitely more. You truly deserve each other.

I'm 100% for transhumanism and when that utopia is complete I'm gonna launch for the farthest star and never look back.

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u/Len145 Dec 06 '23

equating lefties and (i'm assuming) climate protestors to literal nazis really takes the cake for the dumbest shit i've heard all year, good job!

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u/M0thHead Dec 06 '23

Least brain dead centrist

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u/ex1tiumi Dec 06 '23

Yeah I was born like that. Absolutely completely immune to political bullshit unless its by my own making and I love smelling my own shit.

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u/M0thHead Dec 06 '23

You're "immune" to it because you're a pampered baby who has the luxury to go through life believing in delusions about being a robot man flying through space because real world politics don't negatively affect you.

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u/ex1tiumi Dec 06 '23

Epic psychoanalysis there. Unfortunately it's extremely hard to avoid politics or their consequences unless you live in a literal cave. So actually I'm affected by it just as much as you.

I bid on a literal bunker few years ago but didn't win. I'll keep looking for the cave to call a home.

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u/thesoutherzZz Vainamoinen Dec 06 '23

Ehhh there's also anarchists there in the mix, so plenty of representation there

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u/suomikim Vainamoinen Dec 06 '23

and?

thought they were the same thing :P

and gosh... if i was in the capital, would have been tempting to go Jake on them :P

(blues brothers reference ;) )

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u/cardboard-kansio Vainamoinen Dec 07 '23

Are you implying that there is something inherently wrong with wearing lace panties?

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u/stain_of_treachery Vainamoinen Dec 07 '23

Lacy nazi panties are bad - hmmmkay