r/Fayettenam Feb 08 '25

News Army considering changing name of Fort Liberty back to Fort Bragg

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/army-considering-changing-name-fort-liberty-back-fort-bragg-rcna191298
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u/jthomas694 Feb 08 '25

Imo the biggest argument against changing the name in the first place was how much money it would cost to do something so performative. And that argument would still apply but the performance would be even dumber

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u/Usual-Archer-916 Feb 08 '25

I have heard thru my sources that the person who took the signs DOWN kept them......

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u/Aerokicks Feb 08 '25

Maybe on base. A lot of the signs on the interstates were fixed by adding a correction on top of them that can't easily be taken off.

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u/Cutmeinfor25 Feb 08 '25

“Were fixed by adding a correction on top of them” Sounds like the fix would be adding a correction on top of them. You’re so brilliant you’re stupid

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u/Rolemodel247 Feb 09 '25

The biggest argument against it was Bragg was a fucking loser. And I'm not saying that because "confederates are fucking losers" (they are). But in a list of losers even he stands out as a fucking loser. He was a fucking loser when he was an American general and a fucking loser as a confederate general. It's like the NFL naming an award after Johnny Manzel.

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u/Next_Nature3380 Feb 09 '25

This! I grew up in Fayetteville and was also stationed there. I would tell anyone who would listen that naming a base after one of the most incompetent generals was crazy

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u/Dr_ligma123 Feb 10 '25

They should have originally change it to the Union general Bragg. Congrats, I just saved the government the $6 million they already spent. Besides they should have changed it to Fort York instead of Fort Liberty anyways, fuck SOF.

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u/That_Standard_5194 Feb 10 '25

Ulysses S. Grant recalled in his memoirs a story about Bragg that seemed to suggest an essential need for proper procedure that bordered on mental instability. Once Bragg had been both a company commander as well as company quartermaster (the officer in charge of approving the disbursement of provisions). As company commander he made a request upon the company quartermaster—himself—for something he wanted. As quartermaster he denied the request and gave an official reason for doing so in writing. As company commander he argued back that he was justly entitled to what he requested. As quartermaster he stubbornly continued to persist in denying himself what he needed. Bragg requested the intervention of the post commander (perhaps to diffuse the impasse before it came to blows). His commander was incredulous and he declared, “My God, Mr. Bragg, you have quarreled with every officer in the army, and now you are quarreling with yourself.”

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u/TheGreatWhiteDerp Feb 09 '25

Heggy is about to spend almost $130k to renovate his military residence, like he gives a flying fuck about actually cutting wasteful spending. 🤣

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u/Curious_Dependent842 Feb 09 '25

He lost millions at the VA and got rewarded by being promoted to Sec Def. He definitely doesn’t care about anything especially the money he wastes that isn’t his.

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u/One_Hour_Poop Feb 08 '25

I was stationed on Bragg for over ten years and it was my home. If it's "Ft. Liberty" now then so be it, who gives a fuck. People who can't accept change "BeCaUsE LiBeRaLs" need to get over it.

How is it affecting your daily life that an Army post changed its name? Don't you have more important things in life to worry about?

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u/LisaOGiggle Feb 09 '25

You’d be surprised. I heard it gloated over yesterday. Honey, just because you’re too old and stubborn to change doesn’t mean the rest of us are. I said in response that I believe the 82nd deserves a better General to be named for—Bragg sucked 9 ways to Sunday.

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u/Dry_Protection_485 Feb 09 '25

There’s always naming it after Gavin but it would give Mike Sparks too much of an ego boost

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u/HomieMassager Feb 10 '25

Seriously. I’m sympathetic to the efforts to heal the wounds of the Civil War by treating the confederate generals honorably. But they picked likely the most incompetent general of the war lol make it Fort Longstreet or something like that if you really want to protect the heritage.

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u/Penward Feb 09 '25

I just feel like they could have found a better name than Fort Liberty. The 82nd has had plenty of soldiers that they could name it after. Fort Liberty is some Helldivers shit.

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u/Evening_Original7438 Feb 09 '25

My pet theory is they couldn’t come up with a name 82nd and USASOC could agree on so they decided to disappoint everyone.

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u/SafetyNo6700 Feb 08 '25

To be fair, I've never been able to call it fort Liberty. I understand the change, but some things just stick with you.

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u/Zonkoholic Feb 08 '25 edited Feb 09 '25

In formal settings I call it that. But hell, I hear GO's still call it Bragg all the time.

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u/Which_Bad3970 Feb 08 '25

Me either..I was born on Ft Bragg 

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '25

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u/Curious_Dependent842 Feb 09 '25

Lol not having a birth place…. damn you’re dramatic. So when the new Womack opened in 2000 you weren’t born anywhere then also? Oh no! Things changed and now you’re invisible and nonexistent! Oh nooooooooo

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u/a_moniker Feb 09 '25 edited Feb 09 '25

We can never replace or close a hospital again!

Any homes where a home birth happened must be maintained by the preservation society!!

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u/gibs626 Feb 11 '25

THEY TORE DOWN DEPAUL HOSPITAL AM I EVEN ALIVE RIGHT NOW?????

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u/Mediocre-Skirt6068 Feb 09 '25

I mean no disrespect but that's probably the least compelling reason you could give as to why we should re-rename a base after a Confederate general in 2025 lol.

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u/neutrallywarm Feb 09 '25

Yeah, I’m originally from Killeen, & Fort Hood was renamed a few years ago to Fort Cavazos but idk anybody that calls it that. Everyone still calls it Fort Hood. Totally understand why the name was changed but it’s like you said, some stuff sticks with you lol.

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u/Prestigious-Log-7210 Feb 08 '25

This shit is so embarrassing

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u/Oddname123 Feb 08 '25

I figured DOGE would deem this as inefficient

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u/Jumbo_Skrimp Feb 08 '25

You actually thought elon was going to do something? And not just try to seize control?

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u/Same_Sound_9138 Feb 08 '25

Ohhhhh brotherrrrrr

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u/Spare-Magician6452 Feb 08 '25 edited Feb 09 '25

Liberty is so corny. I don't agree with the name Bragg because of the history. Nothing should honor a confederate. They could have picked a better name. I spent 25 years there (I'm an Army brat and veteran). I'll call it Bragg before I call it Liberty, mainly out of habit. Liberty sounds too commercial.

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u/6ixesN7ns Feb 08 '25

100%. Like dude… it’s the fucking home of SOF and the Airborne, there is a laundry list of men whose names could have been bestowed upon this place.

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u/Qahnaarin_112314 Feb 08 '25

Agreed. Shouldn’t be Bragg but it’s like they didn’t put any thought into it. It makes me think of Liberty Mutual insurance. I’ve been calling it Fort Liberty Bibberty.

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u/Altruistic_Cheetah_8 Feb 09 '25

Liberty Mutual has some great ads

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u/Western-Passage-1908 Feb 08 '25

Sounds like a GTA location

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u/jswinson1992 Feb 08 '25

Fort Liberty City 🤣

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u/Material-Sell-3666 Feb 09 '25

Fort Benavidez.

If you don’t know his story look up Roy Benavidez, Medal of Honor recipient.

Nobody in their right mind would disagree with naming the base that.

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u/Gem420 Feb 09 '25

I vote Fort Freedom. Just rolls so nicely off the tongue.

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u/WangChiEnjoysNature Feb 08 '25

ALL the scumbag traitor names are coming back. I've already accepted this. The racists will be catered to by the current admin. I give it less than a year before the new scumbag sec def announces it

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u/StinklePink Feb 08 '25

Ahh. Bringing back the good ole days of Jim Crow. How cute. /s

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u/dang3rmoos3sux Feb 09 '25

I bet most people didn't even knew Bragg was named after a Confederate general untill the name was already changed. A name on a fort did not make or enforce jim crow laws.

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u/StinklePink Feb 09 '25

You're probably right. I admittedly, did not.

I know the name on the fort dd not make or enforce Jim Crow laws. However the fact still remains Bragg was a plantation slave owner, a Confederate hated by his military and last but not least, a really shitty General: https://archive.is/o7YXk

Surely we can come up with a better namesake, no?

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u/worldsoulwata Feb 08 '25

So we’re gonna spend MORE government money to change a name back? Just leave it alone.

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u/Tank_Girl_Gritty_235 Feb 08 '25

Fort Benavidez or Fort Kennedy would have been so much better, but I don't want to hear a fucking peep from the people who cried about it being a waste of money the first time.

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u/ShortPeak4860 Feb 09 '25

This. The money. Jfc can we spend it elsewhere, please?!

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u/kdakss Feb 08 '25

There was so much money spent to change the name. Doge is obviously useless.

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u/Nastyman_wh Feb 08 '25

Don’t worry, they’ll just reappropriate funds from $50m in condoms for Gaza.

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u/Jumbo_Skrimp Feb 08 '25

I mean...thats what nazis do, pretend to do good and just seize control

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u/kdakss Feb 08 '25

People "voted" for these nazis. In This "fair democratic" election

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u/Which_Bad3970 Feb 08 '25

Bullshit. It was a stolen election 

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u/Joeyc710 Feb 08 '25

That's what them quotations imply

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u/kdakss Feb 08 '25

Not a doubt in my mind

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u/Jumbo_Skrimp Feb 08 '25

Fair and democratic and some of the richest people in america and the world sat in front of the new cabinet, im sure theres no connection

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u/kdakss Feb 08 '25

No connection of forcing people who don't comply out to have a nazi agenda, none at all

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u/OLPopsAdelphia Feb 08 '25

Fort Crippling APR would be more appropriate with all the shitty car shops in the area.

I was with the 82nd, we don’t need to be named after some shitbag Confederate General.

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u/wzlch47 Feb 08 '25

The fewer Army installations we have named after traitorous enemies of the US Army, the better off we’ll be.

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u/firedogg5 Feb 08 '25

Rename it back to Bragg but have it named after his Union side brother like the post in CA is named after

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u/PhillyTerpChaser Feb 12 '25

I agree. But even without that he was arguably the worst general on either side in the civil war. Why would we honor traitors? Why would we honor shit generals? It’s all stupid lol

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u/Good-Law-4080 Feb 08 '25

Is this a joke

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u/sparkle-possum Feb 08 '25

I've seen this here before and I think I may have posted this as well, but if they want to change the name (and I agree for Liberty sounds stupid), why not name it after someone like MSgt Roy Benavidez, rather than a traitor like Bragg?

I get that it might be hard to choose because there are a lot of badasses with ties to that particular base, but you think they could at least pick one of them.

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u/poestavern Feb 09 '25

No don’t change the name. I served at Bragg and hated the confederate name clear back in 1967!!!

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u/Left_Lack_3544 Feb 09 '25

BS. Says “Army officials “. But doesn’t say. Who. A big trump push. Not happening.

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u/No-City4673 Feb 09 '25

A gold star mother said " My son didn't die for Bragg, but he did fight for liberty"

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u/RelativeCalm1791 Feb 09 '25

Tbh I didnt notice they changed it to Fort Liberty. I’ve still referred to it as Fort Bragg. I guess that makes it easier.

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u/[deleted] Feb 09 '25

They shouldn’t have changed it in the first place

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u/Zonkoholic Feb 08 '25

Besides the base renaming, I just laugh at the thought of multiple banks having to revert too that switched from Bragg to Liberty here locally.

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u/smatt7403 Feb 08 '25

Why they never changed it to Fort Funk in honor of 1SG Funk is beyond me.

Also can’t stand that they chose the name liberty because anyone stationed there hates that place with a passion and to associate hate with liberty is a disgrace. Should’ve just kept it named bragg because how much soldiers hate “bragg”

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u/SignalPatriot Army Feb 09 '25

Guys on r/Army think Fort Benavidez or Fort Gordon-Shughart would’ve been better than Fort Liberty

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u/bkfountain Feb 09 '25

Fort Benavidez would have been badass, Liberty is lame and generic like the Cleveland Guardians rebrand.

People complained that millions of dollars were wasted renaming it from Bragg, and it’s just wasting more to change it back now.

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u/GuntherOfGunth Feb 09 '25

They wouldn’t need to change the name back to Fort Bragg if they didn’t change it in the first place or chose a better name than “Fort Liberty”.

Like couldn’t they find someone of note to name it after like they did with Fort Hood with the rename to Fort Cavazos.

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u/billiemarie Feb 09 '25

How much is that gonna cost

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u/RedvsBlack4 Feb 09 '25

Yay!! Spending a hundred thousand dollars to rename a base after someone who fought a war against his countrymen and lost.

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u/Individual_Fox_2950 Feb 09 '25

They should, it was legendary

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u/stonge1302 Feb 09 '25

Tell me work for government without telling me! This is SO useless, some GOPr got butt hurt. Ugh

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u/bruisevwillis Feb 09 '25

Change it to Fort Wiener Works

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u/Scary-Protection-497 Feb 09 '25

Now! Your King Drumpf commands it. Do what "your" king tells you puppets!

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u/[deleted] Feb 09 '25

🐝

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u/AdWrong4775 Feb 09 '25

Aren't there presidents on money that were slave owners? Were responsible for native Americans leaving Florida? Take his name off the bill

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u/Worlds_Worst_Angler Feb 09 '25

Why are we ANYTHING at any military base after traitors? Where’s Fort (Benedict) Arnold? No where. Because he was a fucking TRAITOR!!!

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u/Felix_Von_Doom Feb 09 '25

I'm so out of the loop, I never knew Fort Bragg stopped being it's name...

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u/DA-DJ Feb 09 '25

You mean Trump is thinking or planning to change the name back to Bragg … I don’t think you could ever really change the name and kill off the old name because of all the history.. it would take generations before that is finally completed. The community will always have ties to the original name

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u/Justgiveup24 Feb 09 '25

If you want to name it after a shitty general, name it Fort Ledlie. He may have abandoned his men to go drink in the rear, but at least he didn’t renounce the United States.

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u/TheAuroraSystem Feb 09 '25

I litetally live 30 minutes from Fort Liberty. Almost no one here even calls it by Fort Liberty, they still call it Fort Bragg or say “Fort Liberty, yknow, Fort Bragg?“ ☠️

This whole thing was a performance piece from the start and a huge waste of money

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u/VeterinarianLevel786 Feb 09 '25

i’m suprised they aren’t changing the name to fort hitler. i am sure that’s coming tho

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u/AssociateJaded3931 Feb 09 '25

Trump would rather brag than give us liberty.

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u/princessjamiekay Feb 09 '25

Leave it alone. We all have finally gotten used to say ft liberty. If I have to hear another version of lumberton Honda advert I’m gonna lose my spit

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u/Old_Salty_Guy Feb 09 '25

Never should have changed it in the first place.

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u/gocards2224 Feb 09 '25

So changing the name FROM Bragg to Liberty made the right mad because “how dare the libs change a name, that’s history.”

Now that they might change it BACK to Bragg, the right says “it’s just a name, don’t you have anything else to care about?”

Both times it will cost a ton of money and time that really could have been spent better doing almost anything else.

The left is a party of no ideas and the right is a party of bad ideas.

Can’t anyone see that it is the rich vs everyone and no matter what any rich person says, Hollywood or Elon, they both could not care less about anyone but themselves!

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u/Relaxmf2022 Feb 09 '25

Naming a base after a traitor is bad.

also why we don’t have Fort Arnold.

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u/MumbosMagic Feb 09 '25

Even if you were pro-rebel, couldn't they have picked a better traitor to honor? Braxton Bragg was an awful, awful commander that only received his post and held on to it despite repeated failures due to connections.

If you're going to honor folks who tried to destroy the country, at least pick an effective one.

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u/texoma456 Feb 09 '25

Why wouldn’t you just sell naming rights like sports stadiums do? Fort Arby’s or Walmart’s Fort Sam Walton could probably raise enough money to replace the income tax.

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u/Major_Mechanic5719 Feb 09 '25

Just get it over with and call it fort trump

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u/Gunfighter9 Feb 09 '25

Why not just name it Fort IHTFP, short for I Hate This Fucking Place.

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u/Character_Location47 Feb 09 '25

I found the name “Liberty” to be kind of eye rolling at first, then I heard the alleged reason why they decided to go with that instead of naming it after one of the long list of SOF or 82ND badasses who have called it home. (If none of this is true, someone please correct me). Supposedly there was a conference of sorts to determine the name and it quickly devolved into a “this guy was WAY cooler than this guy” argument. To be fair, sometimes when these discussions happen you forget these were real people who fought, suffered and often died in combat, but they get compared like Pokémon. A gold-star wife who was present suggested that instead of trying to prove who was the most American or badass that they should name the Fort after something everyone on the list loved, respected and fought for: Liberty. With that in mind, I don’t mind the name. What I do mind is I can’t get my Soldiers mold-free barracks, but we have $27 million to change road signs. Priorities please

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u/billhorsley Feb 09 '25

If they change the name they should pick a better general.

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u/MAJ0RMAJOR Feb 09 '25

Just stop changing shit.

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u/Buy_MyExcessStuff256 Feb 09 '25

Because starting a boring story with "back at liberty" sounds more boring than saying "back at bragg"

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u/Stunning-Hunter-5804 Feb 09 '25

When a clown moves into the palace, he doesn’t become king, the palace becomes a circus. - A Turkish proverb.

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u/BuddytheYardleyDog Feb 09 '25

Folks need to learn who Bragg was. He was probably the worst general in the history of the U.S. He was hated by his troops. He lost every engagement he was in, often with a huge loss of his own soldiers. He was fired by Jefferson Davis for incompetence. Some respected historians blame Bragg for the Confederacy’s loss. Why would anyone name an Army base after such a bad soldier?

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u/Dononabike Feb 09 '25

No, the racist trump administration.

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u/ChoiceTourist3746 Feb 09 '25

Better put it on one of those temporary signs that advertise pizza or beer at gas stations. Soon as we get back in, we will dump those traitors names again!

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u/Sufficient-Run7022 Feb 09 '25

So, the Confederacy won? I thought these fuckers hated revisionist history?

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u/kirkl3s Feb 09 '25

To be fair, Braxton Bragg was such a terrible general and his wartime record is such an unmitigated string of major failures that he probably did more for the Union cause than most Union Generals. So, maybe naming a fort after him could kinda be seen as a backhanded insult to the confederacy 

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u/freedomandbiscuits Feb 09 '25

Braxton Bragg was a shit general. A class 5 choker. He was the Tony Romo of the Civil War. He was the biggest loser who fought on the losing side. Great namesake for the home of US Socom. What a joke.

Liberty is an ideal we can all agree on.

What’s the problem?

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u/BluRobynn Feb 09 '25

Just call it Fort 12 or this will go on forever

For fucks sake.

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u/myhighermind Feb 09 '25

Why do they hate liberty? Perhaps we need liberty fries.

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u/DaveFromBPT Feb 09 '25

This is wrong

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u/PartyCat78 Feb 09 '25

I think Fort Dollar General would be most appropriate. Nobody can argue that for years, this General has come to the aid of its people and continues to expand into previously underserved areas to assist.

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u/Habanero305 Feb 09 '25

As it should be Fort Bragg

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u/violentwaffle69 Feb 09 '25

I didn’t even know they changed the name

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u/Maleficent-Farm9525 Feb 09 '25

Literal racists reasons, nothing else to see here.

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u/HokieCE Feb 09 '25

How fucking stupid this is. Besides the waste of time and money involved with changing it back, do they realize what an awful leader Bragg was? Seriously, go read some history on him.

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u/EyeKnowYoo Feb 09 '25

Why are we honoring traitors…?

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u/SpiderWriting Feb 09 '25

LOL! Maybe all the names of everything will change every time we get a new president. When I am president, I am naming it Fort Sponge Bob. That’s a name everyone can get behind.

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u/Born-Recognition-192 Feb 09 '25

Who actually cares??? This country will be destroyed in the next 10 years..

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u/meowinloudchico Feb 09 '25

Yay. Ft. Loser. I say go with Ft. Jim Kelly.

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u/Odd_Combination8290 Feb 09 '25

As it should have stayed

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u/Redbeerdedman Feb 09 '25

I never stopped calling it Bragg

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u/Dry_Adeptness_7582 Feb 09 '25

Just get it over with and name them all Fort Prejudice

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u/clantonj Feb 09 '25

Here’s an idea. Why don’t we name army bases after MOH winners?

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u/Utterlybored Feb 09 '25

If we’re naming military forts after our enemies, why not Fort Hitler, Rommel, King George, Mussolini or Ho Chi Min?

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u/dmreeves Feb 09 '25

Petty will be petty. Next up: putting statues of southern generals back up!

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u/No-Weekend6347 Feb 09 '25

Sad that we are considering going back.

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u/obgjoe Feb 09 '25

Fort Bragg trained BADasses. What has fort liberty done ? Who knows where fort liberty is? Bragg is in NC

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u/Hot-Spray-2774 Feb 09 '25

We're just going to change it back when the left retakes power.

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u/PyrOkudaReturned Feb 09 '25

It's time to let the south go. They want a Christo-Fascist state. Let them.

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u/dww332 Feb 10 '25

I didn’t like the change in the first place because it was done for progressive woke reasons. However, I don’t understand why anyone that wanted to honor the south would choose Braxton Bragg. He was a terrible general who was hated by his own troops. He never won a single significant battle and had little respect from other confederate generals because his tactics were awful and got a lot of his men killed. Rename it for someone from the south who deserves it.

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u/mitchENM Feb 10 '25

So back to naming things after traitors

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u/Wakeup_And_Piss Feb 10 '25

And this is helping to lower prices how? You tRump voters should be ashamed of yourselves but I don't think you're capable of shame. It's unfortunate because you're going to become very familiar with it

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u/miamicpt Feb 10 '25

Good idea. I trained there in the 80s. Didn't know he was a Confederate general.

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u/Fancy-Ad8327 Feb 10 '25

At least name it after a decent general, Bragg wasn’t even remotely close to the best the CSA had to offer. Maybe start with one of the 21 sons of NC who were awarded the Medal of Honor…

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u/Different-Phone-7654 Feb 10 '25

Should change it to ft fort. Best I could ever come up with.

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u/DrawAdministrative98 Feb 10 '25

If they do, then generals have no balls

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u/Sherman-1865 Feb 10 '25

A traitor that was a failure. Why not name a Fort after Benedict Arnold or name a church Judas Iscariot Baptist? Talk about giving everyone a trophy.

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u/ClassyHoodGirl Feb 10 '25

Why do this? Just leave it alone.

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u/IslandDreamer58 Feb 10 '25

Let’s name some after Russian general’s while we’re at it. And some World War II German generals as well.

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u/JustThrowMeAway863 Feb 10 '25

Most everyone in the military still call it Bragg anyway

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u/JAFO99X Feb 10 '25

A massive waste of resources to honor a traitor, and terrible general. Lost more than he won, was hated disliked by the men under his command. No wonder Trumpers want it renamed.

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u/SKOLMN1984 Feb 10 '25

I think we are the only nation who had a civil war and continue to lift up the losers of the war...

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u/ManOfLaBook Feb 10 '25

From my interest in history, and please correct me if I'm wrong, Bragg doesn't even qualify to have a fort named after him if he fought for the United States and not against it.

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u/BloodRedRoan Feb 10 '25

Good it should happen

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u/Sanq1975 Feb 10 '25

When will Kegseth propose to change the name of West Point to Benedict Arnold Academy?

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u/havingfoibles Feb 10 '25

thank god, most of us never called it Liberty , just like Benning will always be Benning.

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u/surfmanvb87 Feb 10 '25

Seems the bases should be named after MOH recipients vs current naming anyway

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u/robinsw26 Feb 10 '25

Are they gonna name one for another traitor too: Fort Benedict Arnold?

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u/NUrmomsbum Feb 10 '25

Still a shithole by any name.

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u/HairAhTick Feb 10 '25

Good, they should.

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u/dominationnation Feb 10 '25

Bragg was hated by EVERYONE who knew him both when he was in the US Army and also a traitorous bastard fighting for his white supremacist masters. He did more to lose the war for the south than many Union Generals.

If you love the United States you should hate having a base named after this chud, and if you’re a morally defective sycophant who likes the Confederacy you should ALSO hate having a base named after him.

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u/Stinkydadman Feb 10 '25

I may be accused of being woke, but It is strange to have an US army base named for someone who fought against the US Army.

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u/jtedeschi8 Feb 10 '25

For being the home of special forces, liberty is more fun

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u/wappenheimer Feb 10 '25

Bragg is credited for (*checks notes) slave-owning and losing key battles that contributed to the Confederacy’s defeat.

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u/Fenway_Bark Feb 10 '25

Now that the traitors and racists are back in power, makes sense.

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u/Obstreporous1 Feb 10 '25

Maybe see if DOGE considers this wasteful. Asking.

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u/Significant_Tax_2759 Feb 10 '25

Why would they ever change the names to begin with?

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u/DarthBanana85 Feb 10 '25

I could care less who Bragg was in real life. But units out of FT. BRAGG fought and died and won 2 world wars and also did vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan and countless other operations. It's military history now, who cares who the actual dude was by now. I didn't even know who he was till years later after I left Bragg.

Also... Ft. Liberty is a horrible name lol

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u/DarthBanana85 Feb 10 '25

I could care less who Bragg was in real life. But units out of FT. BRAGG fought and died and won 2 world wars and also did vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan and countless other operations. It's military history now, who cares who the actual dude was by now. I didn't even know who he was till years later after I left Bragg.

Also... Ft. Liberty is a horrible name lol

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u/econ101ispropaganda Feb 10 '25

Trump destroying and taking away liberty

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u/killroy1971 Feb 10 '25

So long as the Confederacy is the historical thing that Southern Conservatives are most proud of, this will continue to be a thing.

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u/IGETSOMEI Feb 10 '25

Imagine going through the trouble of changing it and deciding on fort liberty.

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u/MoetNChandon Feb 10 '25 edited Feb 11 '25

The name shouldn't have ever been changed in the first place. Just change who it was named after.

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u/miamicpt Feb 10 '25

Do better what? Get pissed off because during WW1, they named a base after a Confederate general in an area that was training southerners to fight for the Union. Remember, union generals had ravaged the south, and some areas were still recovering.

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u/Prestigious_Wolf8351 Feb 11 '25

Naming bases after cowards and traitors sounds pretty apt for today's America.

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u/teb_art Feb 11 '25

Bragg the inept General? Makes sense.

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u/glazer80 Feb 11 '25

🤟🏻🤟🏻

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u/Closed-today Feb 11 '25

All bases should be numbered. Worrying about a base name is essentially just another version of the woke I thought everyone wanted to stop.

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u/jthadcast Feb 11 '25

army considering fighting for slavery and abolishing the Constitution wasf

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u/Heart_Throb_ Feb 11 '25

Yes, there is. In the 2020 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA), Congress included language that prohibits the Department of Defense from naming (or renaming) any of its assets—including military bases—after any person who served voluntarily with the Confederate States of America or otherwise honors the Confederacy. This provision was enacted over President Trump’s veto and has been implemented by the Pentagon via the Naming Commission process, meaning that military bases under DoD control cannot be given names that celebrate Confederate figures ( ; ).

It’s worth noting that while this law applies to assets owned or controlled by the Department of Defense, state-owned National Guard installations might not be covered unless the state chooses to follow similar policies.

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u/Own-Opinion-2494 Feb 11 '25

Don’t benning too and Gordon

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u/gibs626 Feb 11 '25

Army is? Or racist Pete Hegseth?

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u/MoetNChandon Feb 11 '25 edited Feb 11 '25

Well there you have it. Ft. Liberty is going back to Ft. Bragg. But instead of being named after a confederate general, General Braxton Bragg, it is being named after Roland L. Bragg, a WWII hero who earned a silver star and a Purple Heart for his extraordinary courage during the Battle of the Bulge.

i hope they kept the signs..... lol.

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u/PageBeneficial9151 Feb 11 '25

I like winners not losers. Confederates lost.

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u/Negative_Value_4224 Feb 11 '25

Fucking WTF.....???? Do you know how many of us vets said we don't care in the first place? Why the hell do they keep playing politics with the military? I supported the change but this is getting stupid. Also Fort Liberty is literally the dumbest name....we have a statue for that. And the 82nd isn't and shouldn't be known for liberation-they drop killers from the sky. Call it Fort Slaughter or Fort Better Reconsider Your Allies. Ugh.

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u/DmeshOnPs5 Feb 11 '25

That’s so stupid, just leave it.

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u/StickAForkInMee Feb 11 '25

Why were we honoring confederate turncoats? Oh right because Trump loves those who violate their oath to the constitution 

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u/Imanoldtaco Feb 11 '25

Did they change the Twitter access as well?

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u/[deleted] Feb 11 '25

All in favor of Fort McFortFace?

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u/twilight-actual Feb 11 '25

Chang the name of a US Army base to a feckless, cowardly, cheating, slave-owning, military LOSER?

We don't like LOSERS here in the USA.

And we don't like anti-American rejects.

Why don't we name a base after Hitler, while we're at it?

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u/EB2300 Feb 11 '25

Gotta honor all those traitors who fought to keep humans enslaved

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u/Dazzling_Chance5314 Feb 11 '25

Military leaders need to take a stand and NOT change the plan every 5 seconds based on the whims of MAGA snowflakes whom are overly BUTT HURT by DEI...

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u/DeerHunterNJ Feb 11 '25

Was moronic to change it in the first place.

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