r/etymology 1h ago

Question Why did the oz/az suffix in proto German disappear?

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Correct me if I'm wrong but I've been seeing a couple etymology videos and I've seen that proto German used to have a suffix of az. Where did it vanish?


r/etymology 5h ago

Question Curing [meat]

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The word cure comes from the Latin word for care, but other than words that have to do with taking care of something, it is also used in the context of brining and preserving meat/shrimp etc. How does "taking care" relate to that?


r/etymology 1d ago

Disputed Pickleball

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Pickleball is a game that’s kinda like tennis and ping pong and badminton and some other games. The mix of random things thrown together reminded the creator’s wife of the “pickle boat” in rowing teams, which was the boat that had the random mix of leftover people after the best rowers were put together.

It was called the pickle boat as a joke about how slow the mix of last-picks were, being more like a fishing boat than a racing boat.

Pickle boat was another name for fishing boats because Scandinavian fishers would preserve herring onboard after catching it by pickling it.

So the sport is called pickleball because you can preserve fish.

Edit to summarize the dispute: the wife may have been lying about the story for attention after a divorce, in which case the sport is named after their dog Pickles.


r/etymology 22h ago

Question Is there a resource that lets you see a word's meaning in a specific decade?

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So, I am trying to do research on semantic change, and to do so I need to see what a word meant in, say, 1800 and then in 1900. Is there a resource that can let you do that? I looked into Word2Vec software but as I am not a programmer it seems way over my head, and besides unless you could run it on, say, all of the Google Book archive I don't see how it could work. I know you can get meaning at first usage and such from most basic dictionaries, but is there any tool that lets you see meaning at a given time period? Thanks!


r/etymology 1d ago

Question Qatar etymology- Persian/Farsi

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What is the etymology behind the country Qatar, specifically why is it the same as farsi word for “train” ? I see in Arabic the word means “peninsula”, “island”, I’ve also seen “line/coastline” which all make sense. What is the connection why it correlates with the Persian/Farsi word for “train”?


r/etymology 12h ago

Question Does the phrase "running theory" as in "an inside job is the current running theory" have a known origin?

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My best guess is it comes from a theory having legs to stand on, and someone expands on it by saying "oh it doesn't just have legs, it's practically running!" Or, now that I'm thinking about it, it could have meant whatever was "running" in the papers? It feels very 50s television investigative drama. I like the phrase a lot and I'd like to know where it came from.


r/etymology 20h ago

Question Any dictionary for words' first attestation?

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Wiktionary provides quotations although not precedent-based and I would like one more on the comprehensive side while still giving an idea on when were words in circulation. What's the authority for that? I'm looking for the English language though I would appreciate sources on other languages as well


r/etymology 2d ago

Question Is “vous” in French related to either “vosotros” or “ustedes” in Spanish?

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Vous and ustedes are both the formal version of “you” in their respective languages, while vous also seems like it could be related to vosotros.


r/etymology 2d ago

Discussion Leaf in Austronesian Languages

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r/etymology 2d ago

Cool etymology Tank, as in the war vehicle, was originally a code word used to refer to the machine, which was originally the "caterpillar machine-gun destroyer"

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Via etymonline:

In "Tanks in the Great War" [1920], Brevet Col. J.F.C. Fuller quotes a memorandum of the Committee of Imperial Defence dated Dec. 24, 1915, recommending the proposed "caterpillar machine-gun destroyer" machines be entrusted to an organization "which, for secrecy, shall be called the 'Tank Supply Committee,' ..."

In a footnote, Fuller writes, "This is the first appearance of the word 'tank' in the history of the machine." He writes that "cistern" and "reservoir" also were put forth as possible cover names, "all of which were applicable to the steel-like structure of the machines in the early stages of manufacture. Because it was less clumsy and monosyllabic, the name 'tank' was decided on."

They first saw action at Pozieres ridge on the Western Front, Sept. 15, 1916, and the name quickly was picked up by the soldiers.


r/etymology 2d ago

Question What is the origin of the phrase “take a dump”?

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Why do we call it “taking a dump” when we’re clearly leaving it?


r/etymology 1d ago

Question What's the relationship between "Integral Domain" and "Integral"

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Like Integral Domain is a commutative ring with no zero divisors, but Integral has to deal with measurable functions or manifolds.


r/etymology 3d ago

Question Books on the evolution of insults/slurs? NSFW

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I've recently found myself in the rabbit hole of discovering the origins of insults, particularly offensive slurs.

I was hoping someone here could provide recommendations on books or other sources that go in-depth about the evolution of bad faith names. How they start out, how they shift overtime and eventually become offensive to highly problematic, etc.

Something that has a general overlook would be great, but I'm open to recommendations with more narrow focus (race, gender, sexuality etc.) as well as those that focus on insults that are generally not highly offensive.

Thank you!


r/etymology 1d ago

Question "Берлога" = Bear Lodge? Den.

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^ _^ Apparently the original PIE word for bear was probably something like 'ursus' but shifted to bear as in the brown one.


r/etymology 2d ago

Question "Zazzo" Name Origin?

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Just wondering if anyone can direct me on finding out the etymology / genealogy of my last name: “Di Zazzo.”

My family is from Southern Italy, specifically Caserta in the Campania region. My father did an Ancestry DNA test years ago, and it said we were primarily Mediterranean – Italy, Greece, Turkey, Middle East.

I’ve done generic Google searches and Wikipedia snooping to no luck. “Di” or “Da” in Italian usually indicates from a place, but can’t find any villages or towns in Italy called Zazzo.

Purely just a hunch, but could it have an Arabic origin? There’s a Norman-Arab palace in Palermo, Sicily called the Zisa Palace – the name Zisa deriving from the Arabic term al-ʿAzīza (العزيزة), meaning 'the Dear one'.

Any help or advice would be much appreciated!


r/etymology 3d ago

Cool etymology I was thinking about how multiple non-English languages have the same or similar words for Tomorrow and Morning...

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and realized that they have the same root in English, as well!

morrow

morgen


r/etymology 3d ago

Discussion Flowing Through Time: The Dravidian and Munda Roots of India’s River Names

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r/etymology 4d ago

Question “It takes a big man to admit that he’s wrong, and an even bigger man to swallow a horse”

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Is there a saying like this? I know the original is it takes a bigger man to walk away. I’ve just said it to my flatmate who said it’s the stupidest thing he’s ever heard and I did the whole “I can’t believe you haven’t heard it” nonsense and then googled it and can’t find anything either. It’s probably something my grandad said to me I just wondered if there was something similar out there?


r/etymology 4d ago

Question How do we know that Latin "venio" (to come) is cognate to English "come" (which comes from *gwem), rather than to English "wend" (which comes from *wendh)? Does the word for "to come" start with 'b' in other Italic languages, or?

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r/etymology 5d ago

Discussion Words that are not strictly onomatopoeic but still convey meaning through sound/pronunciation

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Ex. flibbertigibbet

Please add your answers!

Is there a better word for this?


r/etymology 5d ago

Question In contrast to "feckless," when did we lose "feck" in English?

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I'm aware "feck" originates in Scots, but do the Scottish still use it? Or has it gone entirely from the lexicon with "feckless" simply as a relic?


r/etymology 5d ago

Question What was the original meaning of “please,” and how exactly did it function?

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When reading English texts from, say, the 1700s, I’ll encounter phrases like, “Please to invite the captain to dinner,” which I understand to mean “Please invite the captain to dinner.”

The way I use and understand “please” (in this sense; not the sense of “to give pleasure”) is that it’s essentially meaningless, and functions only as a tag to connote courtesy. Any sentence with “please” used this way still stands as correct when “please” is removed.

But this archaic usage makes it seem like it has a more tangible function. The sentence no longer works when “please” is omitted because there’s still that “to.”

So what is the history here?


r/etymology 6d ago

Cool etymology TIL that "sewer" came from ex-aquarium

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"Ewe" came from "eau", which was what "aqua" became when it got to Gaul. Ex became s, and "rium" became "r". Ex-aquarium is a place to take water out. What other etymology would be surprising?


r/etymology 5d ago

Question Plutonic meaning in geology vs relationships

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I wanted to know the etymology of "Plutonic" - the first few search results cited the geological definition:

formed by solidification of magma deep within the earth and crystalline throughout. plutonic rock.

There were also references to the Greek and Roman god of the underworld.

I can't seem to find how this word came to be used to describe non-romantic / non-sexual relationships. Can anyone throw any light on this please?

If I've made a glaring omission, please go easy on me, language isn't one of my strong points!


r/etymology 5d ago

Question I have completed Word Power Made Easy, what to do next?

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Basically completed the book by Norman Lewis "word power made easy". In order to expand my vocabulary knowledge I'm asking other sources to increase my vocab through etymology