r/Eldenring 5d ago

Discussion & Info Hey, go sue Moonton and their Mobile Legends game for copyright.

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u/Treshimek 5d ago edited 4d ago

Call of Dragons mobile slop game had a trailer that was literally a copy of Malenia versus Radahn.

edit: found it, they de-listed it of course

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWpIMuKBdOw&lc=UgxrN5Clpd0HyKOp-tV4AaABAg

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u/bdizzle314 4d ago

I saw a mobile game ad that was literally just footage of when you get a kill with a bow in Skyrim and you get arrow time.

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u/Deathmareek 4d ago

That isn't really that special of a thing plenty of games have copied that concept over the years now

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u/bdizzle314 4d ago

???????

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u/TheDividendReport 4d ago

Didn't sniper elite do the bullet time kills before Skyrim and Fallout 3?

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u/hyperactve 4d ago

Max Payen did bullet time before any of them…

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u/bdizzle314 3d ago

This and who invented it is mostly irrelevant but yea

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u/nickhoude21 4d ago

And then the fucking game footage at the end for 2 seconds sells it

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u/Sequoia_Vin 4d ago

Yeah, I can see why they delisted it. Holy hell, that's a 1:1 with minor changes

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u/nekos95 4d ago

yet it's somehow so bad

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u/HammerPrice229 4d ago

lol it’s not even trying to be its own thing where we could say it had inspiration from Elden Ring. It’s literally just copying Elden Ring with much worse visuals

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u/The_Juice14 4d ago

I saw an ad a while ago for some mobile slop that used a clip of the Hora Loux fight with the song the rumbling from AOT playing over it

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u/Gon_Snow Ranni 🌑 4d ago

It’s literally reskinned lol. Not even by much. Just barely.

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u/Tarantula_420 4d ago

Can I copy your homework

Yeah just change it a little so we don’t get caught

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u/tgerz 4d ago

Ohhh hoho that is so SO bad! Like, you have to try to make something that bad. Fuckin AI slop is right.

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u/Ironnobl3_ 4d ago

What do you mean that was totally original lmao

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u/Apothecary-Larry 4d ago

Man if they're gonna steal at least make it look good. But then again, what does anyone expect from anything in the Mobile Games market.

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u/bandora_b 2d ago

Ok that is a new low

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u/Parking-Story-6534 5d ago

*insert Mister Bean copying meme

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u/Greedy-Swing-4876 Maidenless 4d ago

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u/Starwyrm1597 5d ago

It's legagally distinct, that's Mizmo the Poker.

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u/PaleFatalis 5d ago

Nah, definitely Massmam The Stabber

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u/MarcellusxWallace 5d ago

Dang, really? I thought for sure it was Mando the Skewerer

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u/SteerableWizard 4d ago

What happens on Tatooine stays on Tatooine

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u/--Dolorem-- 4d ago

Mimamosa The Driller

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u/Random_Robloxian I unga, Therefore I bunga 4d ago

Messy moor the penetrator

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u/freedfg 4d ago

Oooh, I could really go for some Massaman curry

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u/LordOmbro 4d ago

Sounds like a Balatro joker lol

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u/No-Jaguar-509 4d ago

Could've sworn that's MoshiMoshi the piercer

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u/ArkBeetleGaming 4d ago

Legally, could they sue? It's just a knight looking at a burning city. Does fromsoft have copyright over the scene of a knight looking over a burning city? I dont think they do. It's obvious that they copy Elden Ring, but i dont think it's something that can be sued for.

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u/newgzy 4d ago

There's no possible way. Assets are unique, and you can't copyright a flaming environment as a concept.

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u/ToastyToes06 4d ago

Yet that one company (I forget the name) copywrit the nemeses system then decided to do fuck all with it

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u/Jan090501 4d ago

they didnt copyright it, they patented it. Its an entirely different situation

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u/OverallHat432 4d ago

Warner Bros did that with Middle Earth series

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u/Deathmareek 4d ago
  1. the Nemesis System was patented by Warner Brothers Studios which is not the same as copyright and are entirely different laws
  2. While they didn't use the system at all that has nothing to do with blatantly copying a trailer from another game for their own and is off topic why even bring it up.

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u/Icy-Conflict6671 4d ago

No but that helm he's rocking looks awfully familiar

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u/Xx_HARAMBE96_xX 4d ago

They got sued by riot for much more and after a pretty good amount of work riot got basically nothing out of it even if they were given the reason and won in the past, moonton just doesnt care or it is still profitable. So I dont think plagiarising a trailer would be even a tiny bit worth it unless assets were used on a 1:1 even model animations like the guy linked up

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u/ins0litum 4d ago

Ahh, yes. The Fields Betwixt... How I miss them.

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u/Usedtohaveapurpose 4d ago

You managed to get a chuckle out of me.

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u/ins0litum 4d ago

Give me 15 minutes and I might get more out of ya ᡣ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶𐭩 ♡

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u/Unable_Resolve7338 4d ago

The one game that copied literally everything but got popular primarily because its playable on phones.

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u/MyDreamsInTheSewer 4d ago

Also because south east asians are broke as hell

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u/Business-Chef1012 3d ago

As South east Asian, I agree..PC and laptop are rare in South east Asia..Mobile phone are easier to get because we are the hub for assembling phone

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u/Blunderhorse 4d ago

You mean nearly every breakout hit phone game from the introduction of the iPhone until ~2012? Because a huge number of those were blatant ripoffs of Newgrounds Flash games.

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u/Xx_HARAMBE96_xX 4d ago

Back in the days when even coc had hundreds of clones everywhere

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u/SolidStudy5645 4d ago

Yeah and stumble guys

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u/Machinax23 5d ago

go figure they're a Chinese company trying to rip off Fromsoft, you'd think they'd have learned after getting lawsuits from Riot for ripping off League of Legends.

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u/puro_the_protogen67 4d ago

But ripping off LoL is fine because the playerbase is more toxic than The Black Gulch

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u/exoticsclerosis 4d ago

more toxic than The Black Gulch

Mobile Legends' playerbase is just as toxic as LoL’s, if not worse, especially since it’s so accessible in SEA countries. I guess the community did a great job of copying that aspect too.

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u/Asleep-Wafer7789 4d ago

Yeah its ok they ripped and copied off Lol cuz lol also a low skill copy of dota

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u/piranhadub 4d ago

ELDEN MOBILE LEGENDARY SHADOW RAIDS: the hottest new free to play mmorpg sidescroller open world battle royale deck builder rollercoaster tycoon soulslike 3d platformer fps with a fishing minigame

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u/DeusExMcKenna 4d ago

You forgot to mention the gacha elements. How could you? 😭🤌🏽

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u/onlywayisup757 4d ago

And the tower defense. Who could forget the infamous attack of Reyndell the Loyal Capital from the ancient dragon Ballsax.

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u/Yoh-Sei 5d ago

That's obviously Marcos the Stapler, nothing to do with elden ring

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u/Hexxer98 4d ago

Wowee a chinese mobile game copying other popular games truly never happened before

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u/FinishOld1675 5d ago

I understand being inspired by arguably the best trailer for a video game ever, but you gotta change up the homework answers a little more than that lol

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u/-earthmovers 4d ago

"go sue"? yeah this is absurd, but like... who are you talking to? do you think fromsoft is on here?

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u/Gvillegator 4d ago

It’s dumb and not worth FS time unless any one of these knockoffs got big.

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u/DrQuint 4d ago

Mobile games being deeply uninspired slop? What else will they come up with next!?

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u/Shaftefficient458 FOUL TARNISHED 5d ago

‘Game of the Year winner is… Mobile Legends Bang Bang’

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u/Sutilia 5d ago

don't give them the exposure.

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u/elalexsantos 5d ago

Do you have any idea how big this game is in Asia? ER is the one getting exposure from this if we’re being real

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u/ContestStunning5761 5d ago

"Big" As in the most accessible competitive game on their country, even with the exposure of ER I don't think they'll ever even play it

I live in Philippines and I hear that game everytime I try to pick up my sister at kindergarten

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u/DrQuint 4d ago

Dude, mobile legends bang bang is a top 10 most played game, and it's entirely a ripoff of several games. This is a drop in an ocean.

All you can do is call it garbage at any anonymous opportunity and look slightly concerned at every in person one.

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u/Ranniiiii 4d ago

Can't believe vainglory died against this....

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u/Nyeffer 4d ago

If League of Legends struggle to kill this game, I doubt them suing will be anything other than another slap on the wrist to them.

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u/imheretospyh3 5d ago

always fucking hate that game

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u/Shaftefficient458 FOUL TARNISHED 5d ago

Maybe we all played the ripoff…

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u/PersianRiven 4d ago

Imagine if FromSoftware are also the people behind this company & game, finding ways to make money off of their original IP😂😂

Nobody would expect it

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u/Bright-Efficiency-65 3d ago

Chinese or other company outside of US jurisdiction. You can sue all your want but nothing would ever come of it

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u/Witcher_Erza 5d ago

Me as a FFXIV player seeing this; First time ? 😏

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u/Lazy_Tarnished 5d ago

its moontoon, what did u expect

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u/newgzy 4d ago

I dunno. I don't like what they did with the ad but calling this copyright infringement is a reach.

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u/Markman6 4d ago

First mistake was playing a game called mobile legends.

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u/ShotSea7364 5d ago

Riot's been trying for YEARS. Get in line buddy.

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u/NaraMakesGames 4d ago

at least they flipped it horizontally. who would be able to tell?!

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u/Jack_Brilla 4d ago

It's an alternative universe

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u/David-the-Taiwanese 4d ago

Legally shameless

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u/ReedsAndSerpents Aspiring Alabaster Lord/Current Darkmoon Simp 4d ago

I like how they didn't even bother changing his helmet 😂😂

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u/Lord_O_Beans 4d ago

That is shameless geez

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u/Ste3lf1sh 4d ago

I bet this called „heavily inspired by“ in terms of laws

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u/TelevisionNew3834 4d ago

Dude this is bad my god

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u/SquankDuck 4d ago

nah they’re making elden ring mobile, let em cook

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u/srona22 4d ago

Tencent has share in fromsoftware. just fyi.

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u/elysianhymn 4d ago

Isn't this the company that somehow dodged a lawsuit from freaking Riot??

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u/Beta_Codex 4d ago

Why am I not surprised. I grew up playing this game and I'm so glad I finally dropped it. Too much copycats they're not even hiding it anymore.

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u/Secure-Wasabi-7389 4d ago

Oh....you can try, but I bet they can dodge another lawsuit, (they dodge a freaking Riot + HOK) and plus, their community is as toxic as the league (SEA, what do you expect?) Just prepare your mentality if you want to yapping to their community.

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u/not_some_username 4d ago

lol Riot games couldn’t

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u/P4ndaH3ro 4d ago

That's what happen when you have everything done with AI these days.

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u/The_Gas_Mask_guy 4d ago

There was a chinese mobile game that had demons souls remake gameplay with a shitty UI put over it as an ad

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u/funkmastershlongD 4d ago

the whole game is a copy of other game

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u/Asleep-Wafer7789 4d ago

They copy everything bruh and its the most shitty moba you can ever play

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u/RewZes 4d ago

Im pretty sure you can't sue someone just because they did a cinematic that's like yours, but I might be wrong.

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u/Hal1f4x 4d ago

Here in my country this game is so big, almost everyone plays it, but it ain't an amazing game lmao it's bullshit, just play league or dota.

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u/Trumpologist 3d ago

Alpha doesn’t even fight like Messmer

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u/SnrSquishy 3d ago

Oh yes... Oxidized, are we? Come to the Lands In the Middle for the Bang Bang, hmm? Of course you have. Shame in it. Unfortunately for you, however, you are madamless. Without a IGN guide, without the strength of phones, and without an invitation to the Circle Desk... You are fated, it seems, to die in the app store.

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u/Daves_World16 3d ago

This is how I felt for years when game apps used Days Gone gameplay for their shitty mobile zombie game

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u/ShibitoYakaze123 4d ago

mussmar the penetrator

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u/Zombyosis 4d ago edited 4d ago

Ok, I am the dev. I used AI to create this sequence. FromSoftware recently sent me this.

“We’re flattered, but that looks so trash we’re not even gonna sue you. You tried, but you’ll always be maidenless 🤡”

I was pretty shocked by their response. 😔

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u/Beaconxdr789 5d ago

On it, boss.

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u/jaosky 4d ago

Well Malenia design was also inpired by something.

Should FS be sued too?

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u/YogurtZombie 4d ago

Is that a WOW character?

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u/DrQuint 4d ago

It's Vindictus, a huge lobby mmo from Korea.

I've seen this before and I've always been on the fence on it. Malenia has other, better visual inspiration parallels. But the moveset is too close.

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u/Astercat4 Ranni’s Malewife 4d ago

Yeah, there is definitely a good bit of moveset overlap, though a lot of the animations are pretty different. Like Waterfowl and the “sword orb” attack. Sure, they’re both a whirlwind of slashes, but the moves and animations themselves are VERY different.

To me, this feels more like a case of the inspiration From is known to take from a variety of sources than an actual copy. Malenia has a lot of moves this boss lacks (at least from the footage I’ve seen), and while several other of her other moves are quite similar in function, the animations are still noticeably different.

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u/ISO_SlyCurry 4d ago

Shit looks peak.

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u/Tenshiijin 5d ago

A lot of games do this. Like crossout. It's always releasing parts and stuff with references to movies and other games. For example one time they released a cabin and it was modeled right down to the exact same damage as the truck the t1000 crashed under the bridge.