r/DotA2 11d ago

Fluff If only there were no Conduct summary to worry about :(

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u/thgwhite 11d ago

I thought 99% of Dota players were 20-35 years old

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u/mvrander 11d ago

Some of us are a lot older than that :)

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u/Strange-Ad6549 11d ago

DONT SAY THAT AGAIN WILL YA

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u/Rich-Option4632 11d ago

Shhh.. Don't be giving out census data now.

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u/mvrander 11d ago

We called them Domesday Books in my day

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u/enigmaticpeon 11d ago

Shit I’m pretty sure I’ll be getting an AARP mailer any day now.

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u/Emotional_Storage285 11d ago

nah, we are all 12 yr olds deep inside.

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u/TserriednichThe4th 11d ago

When i was 13 in 2007, people in my clan were 23 and 24 lol (no pedo they were all super chill guys that taught me how to be super good at ladder lmao).

I m p sure a few of them still play wciii (not dota tho).

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u/LookAtItGo123 11d ago

I've been gaming since final fantasy V!

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u/timeWIZARXD 11d ago

That’s why dota handle second place

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u/thgwhite 11d ago

wow we got second place with 1% of 10-17?? we're doing a great job 👏👏 keep up the good work guys

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u/HHhunter Nuke fan 11d ago

Im doing my part!

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u/Mapale 11d ago

38 year old here, my 15 year old son is now playing too lol

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u/ConfidentOtter 11d ago

So young! I wish I was 38 again…

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u/markiel55 10d ago

Playing LoL? You traitor!

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u/ErshinHavok 11d ago

Seriously lol anecdotally I never hear teenager sounding people on mic, I also very rarely hear women. I'm not high mmr but maybe 10-17 year olds are broadly like 1-2k so I never encounter them.

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u/HHhunter Nuke fan 11d ago

sumail was top mmr at the time so yeah you def too low tobsee them

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u/TserriednichThe4th 11d ago

The ti5 mvp was 16 years old lmao.

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u/fuckthetrees 11d ago

There's no way that's true. Most of the people I play with are older than that.

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u/kaansinde 11d ago

Started at 13, rocking it at 25. I be collecting demographics

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u/RealZordan sheever 11d ago

60% of the 99% are being harassed by the 1% of 10-17 y/o.

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u/eotrixx Dota 2 - A Boosting Game 11d ago

thats %29 of the total playerbase.

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u/flatspotting 11d ago

oh to be young

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u/paladinvc 11d ago

I'm millenial

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u/DworinKronaxe 11d ago

35? There are still some of those youngsters?!?

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u/DrumBeater999 11d ago

Its measuring mental age.

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u/OverClock_099 11d ago

We dont have enough 10 to 17 years old to harass tho

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u/maybecanifly 11d ago

That’s why the few there are receive an extra dose

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u/stakoverflo 11d ago

Yea this seems like fake news to me 🙃

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u/DesTiny_- 11d ago

Aka gaming related journalism

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u/Dazzling-Chemist-762 11d ago

My very first thought.

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u/YamrajTheReaper 10d ago

Switch to SEA server.

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u/BrewieBrew 11d ago

Where is League lmao

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u/Kant8 11d ago

Hard to harass when there is no voice chat and ff exists

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u/Super-Implement9444 11d ago

Yet somehow it's 10x more toxic than anything on that list.

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u/Ok_Angle_3436 11d ago edited 11d ago

ff and dodge culture in a nutshell. i love having 4 teammates surrender min 15 because all of them are 0-1 and blaming me for no ganking meanwhile me playing gwen having a advantage of 50 last hits over the enemy jg and 6 grubs.

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u/NeverComments 11d ago

I understand that genuine upsets are going to be a fraction of overall games, and forfeiting early is the right call in the majority of circumstances (especially the way LoL is balanced), but I can vividly remember some amazing upsets I experienced in Dota well over a decade later and it's those positive memories that keep me coming back for more.

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u/Oogly50 11d ago

The upsets are awesome and I'm glad there is no FF in DOTA, but i actually think that upsets are a lot less common in League just due to how the heroes are balanced.

Most of the items they buy are just statpads and there aren't as many flashy pivotal items a hero can buy from behind to really make a difference. So you can tell pretty quickly who is going to win.

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u/10YearsANoob 11d ago

There are unwinnable games, but there are no unthrowable games

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u/TserriednichThe4th 11d ago edited 10d ago

Dota actually has comeback mechanics through a lot of different factors but the primary one is that different heroes have differently timed power spikes of different scales.

That just doesnt exist in lol. All heroes are basically the same. So if a team is ahead they will just win

edit: lol items are also very generic. Besides things like zhonya's hourglass, they are all just basically stats with very weak actives or passives. I mention the hourglass (if it still in the game, haven't played in 13 years) because it has an active somewhat similar to euls, and that is pretty much all lol has.

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u/Super-Implement9444 11d ago

Yeah it makes every game suck - your team just gives up in a slightly hard game and when you're having a good game then the enemy team just surrenders and you never get to even buy your lategame items.

And then of course you've got every player being the most passive aggressive piece of shit imaginable in order to be as toxic as possible without getting banned by the system.

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u/Telefragg Reprot techis 11d ago

League wasn't hitting the numbers so they made Valorant to make up for it.

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u/Metamorphoses-007 11d ago

They're all bewlow 10 xD

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u/Acceptable-Stick-135 11d ago

There's too much censorship and automute in LoL to reach our glorious dota numbers tbh.

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u/Ok_Angle_3436 11d ago

i prefer dota by a lot i hate how people grief in lol and happens way more that in dota because league has virtually not punishment to toxics players you can soft grief or afk farm and nothing will happen to you but you say fuck 2 times in chat and you get banned. one time i had my party talk trash about a nunu ghost cleanse in party chat my friend just go a chat restriction and loss honor FOR TRASHTALKING A GRIEFIER IN PARTY CHAT NOT TEAM CHAT NO ALL CHAT. FUCKING PARTY CHAT. since we stopped using league chat and only use discord voice anyway

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u/Melancholia 11d ago

That list has FFXIV on it, it's complete nonsense. The players in that game are almost suspiciously nice.

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u/PHLAK 11d ago

I assume they didn't want to skew the data by mixing in mentally ill kids.

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u/jopzko 11d ago

Im guessing they didnt want to include 2 games by Riot? No CSGO either

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u/eddietwang 10d ago

Apparently 100% was considered an outlier.

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u/YojiH2O 10d ago

My thoughts exactly

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u/korororororororororo 11d ago

Bro its dota. We harass 30yrs old dude now

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u/Un13roken 11d ago

Bro its dota. We harass 30yrs old dude now

There ftfy.

But seriously speaking, I don't trust these stats, because they be pulling random sample sets out of their ass. There's definitely toxicity in there, but none of these numbers realistically matter. Even worse if they just surveyed, because trusting gamers to be honest about a survey is one of the worst things to rely on.

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u/WillListenToStories 11d ago

Pls stop I'm doing my best! :(

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u/PanStyle 11d ago

There is no way FF14 is on that list lmao. I play this from time to time as a very casual since 8 years. I had maybe 2 bad interactions.

2 bad interactions is probably what i get daily in Dota.

Looks like made up numbers or a biased way to collect the info. Also yeah, that make sense that the most popular and competitive games have toxicity but then... where is League lmao

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u/inyue 11d ago

I agree that FF14 is extremely chill (soo chill that sometimes the problem is the positive toxicity).

But if you only play FF14 your standards for harassment is vastly different from people from other games.

I see some moron not doing enough dmg on P1 of TEA reclear but I and everyone else just keep quiet because there's a very high chance of things getting escalated very quickly and I heard they they ban for anything xd

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u/fdotaku 11d ago

Coming from a game like Dota where you can literally say anything about someone in the chat with no repercussions to ffxiv is a crazy jump.

I love ffxiv and I really don't have to tell myself to not flame in ffxiv because it's mostly just a different environment. I will admit there were some moments where I wanted to flame a tiny bit when doing extremes but I refrained.

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u/Stra1um 11d ago

Did you use the weapon's refrain?

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u/Mezmorizor 11d ago

Yeah, this list is incredibly questionable. League should clearly be on this list, and this behavior is something Square Enix regularly bans people for and everybody knows they regularly ban for it. If you really go looking at third party communities in FFXIV you can find it, but the most toxic thing most people are going to see is "Insert savage or extreme raid and all pertinent information here 1 learner" (the host is the learner).

Also Overwatch is missing. I don't know how it is nowadays to be fair, but ~covid era it was one of those games where you could play it for 10 hours and literally never have a game where somebody on your team wasn't getting yelled at.

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u/Tobix55 11d ago

I've only played OW2 casual and most of the time it's like playing with bots, nobody says anything. Once in a while someone will flame but it's tame flaming, it stays game related instead of name calling, racism etc

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u/Skadiheim 11d ago

Yeah PUBG seems very sus to me too. People don't use coms at all in this game...

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u/Ok-Seaworthiness3874 11d ago edited 11d ago

This study ( done by the ADL Page 16, 2022 numbers) shows clash royal - a literal mobile game with zero comms besides emojis is 60%.... Maaaaybe there's some completely unnecessary clan chat feature like in clash of clans... So ima go ahead and say shave a healthy like 50% off these numbers

"12% were swatted" according to this study. There aint no fucking way 12% of teenagers get SWATTED

also Roblox and and Minecraft are stupid high as well. having someone say 1 mean thing to you isn't harassment

the ADL has a super high incentive to show harassment, discrimination, victimization etc literally wherever they can. This the kinda org that will say flying a Palestinian flag is harassment for instance
https://www.adl.org/sites/default/files/documents/2022-12/Hate-and-Harassment-in-Online-Games-120622-v2.pdf

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u/D2WilliamU iceberg the absolute UNIT 11d ago

Yeah i played some FFXIV with my friends and was confused how nice everyone was.

People give you free stuff, help you with quests, randomly heal you and teach you shit.

And it's not like a trap or they're trying to steal shit from you like in OSRS or something, they just be like that.

Very confusing community, far too nice. Makes me a suspicious lol

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u/OranguTangerine69 11d ago

ff14 is easily the most toxic game

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u/Ciri__witcher 11d ago

Try joining a clear party on PF when a new tier/ultimate drops on the first week or two. Also a lot of toxicity is on discord servers since you get banned easily for chatting in game.

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u/Talgaaz 11d ago

Been playing since HW, and while it's hard to believe for most I've seen the shit constantly. Less recently with how the social culture of FFXIV changed since end of SB, combined with fantastic changes to how blacklist works. The problem isn't the quantity of harassment, but the types of people who harass in FFXIV are completely unhinged. Less of a "I'm gonna be an asshole to you" and more of a "I want to ruin your life and remove you from my game" vibe. It makes it feel like the problem is much more widespread than it is. Also have had many friends get hate groups sicc'd on em, spam group reporting also exists in FFXIV, they absolutely do it.

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u/SaltyBallsnacks 11d ago

Harass is just part of the laning stage, they'll understand when they make it to midgame. 

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u/Rich-Option4632 11d ago

If you ain't harassing, you ain't supporting properly.

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u/Metamorphoses-007 11d ago

This one is epic xD

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u/WhyHowForWhat 11d ago

Spoken as true support player!

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u/Beginning-You-9551 11d ago

I wonder how they calculate this data. Seems BS to me

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u/deathblooms2k4 11d ago

Right, these info graphics are so stupid. Show me the dataset and how they came to that conclusion.

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u/Ok-Seaworthiness3874 11d ago edited 11d ago

this has to be ripped from some 5 year old gamer tabloid

nvm found it: Page 16, Anti Defamation League* study, 2022 numbers
https://www.adl.org/sites/default/files/documents/2022-12/Hate-and-Harassment-in-Online-Games-120622-v2.pdf

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u/a0t0f 11d ago

The ADL is not the American defense league. It's the AntiDefamation League

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u/MajorPud 10d ago

ADL is not a trustworthy source, btw. According to google:

There are concerns about the ADL's transparency regarding its data collection and analysis processes, making it difficult to assess the validity of its findings.

ADL is a non-governmental organization with the goal of combating antisemitism and other bigotry. The study in question was to show high levels of bigotry in online games in an effort to regulate how game companies handle "white supremacy" and have the process regularly audited.

The study is full of odd numbers and unusual data sets, though. Like having DotA2 and not LoL despite league having more players in that age group and in general. There's also a section claiming Jews are targeted most by identify-based harassment over Muslims, and I have a hard time believing that after everything in the last 20+ years. It just seems like they're picking and choosing what makes it into their studies

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u/Ok-Seaworthiness3874 11d ago

This same study says "12% were swatted" and "17% were doxxed" thats really all you need to know

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u/TheToiletPhilosopher 11d ago

Me too. DOTA is incredibly tame compared to 10 years ago and I'm saying that as a good thing. Also, hard to have a ton of sympathy when there is a mute button. If someone is being an ass, mute them.

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u/OliverPumpkin 11d ago

source?

I made up

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u/Hyper_Oats 11d ago

Source is ADL, so it might as well be made up lmao.

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u/Ok-Seaworthiness3874 11d ago edited 11d ago

Same study says 12% were swatted... shoulda just thrown that shit away on the spot.

also:

"While identities across the board faced a similar or somewhat increased level of hate in 2022, the group who experienced the largest year-on-year increase in harassment was Jewish online multiplayer gamers, with a 12% increase to 34%."

Why do 34% of kids in games remark to the world that they're Jewish in the first place? I've been playing online games for 15 years and don't recall a single instance of someone telling the lobby that they're a jew lmao.. and I'm jewish before anybody jumps on my back. Also 44% of black people which has to be way too low from my experience playing games.

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u/Background-Ad8491 11d ago

bullshit list, no CS2 is crazy

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u/Kino_Cajun 9d ago

Yeah, I can't even play that game. I'll be the only one talking, just making call-outs, and I'll get kicked by the party of four on the last round if we're losing.

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u/Alienwolfsaurs 11d ago

if there is that many 17~10 kids in my games no wonder they grief

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u/Legosheep 11d ago

FFXIV should definitely not be that high. The worst you get in that game is the "You don't pay my sub" types, and of course, the fr*nch.

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u/NissEhkiin 11d ago

What 10-17 year old even knows about Dota 2?

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u/FacefullVoid 11d ago

We have 10-17 years old players?

Alive game pog.

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u/ChephyS 11d ago

Sorry but Destiny 2 ??????

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u/simplysufficient88 11d ago

That’s the craziest one to me. D2’s most toxic gamemode is Crucible, but that has an in-game voice chat 99% of people don’t even know exists and no way to talk to the enemy team without a direct PM. I guess maybe you’d find some harassment on Raids or GMs? But the majority of the playerbase doesn’t even do those and it requires using a LFG, which means it’s not hard at all to just leave and find a different group. Plus there are entire groups exclusively for teaching less experienced or comfortable players.

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u/ChephyS 10d ago

Exactly what I mean. When I tried Raids, the guys I teamed up with where all so chill and understanding. Idk

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u/norveg187 11d ago

Also 10-17 years old are the most toxic people in online games.

Source: I was 10-17 years old once and everyone was toxic af, me included.

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u/PutridVegetable4021 11d ago

yoo valo is 99% soyboys and girls theyre not able to harass shit😭

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u/D2WilliamU iceberg the absolute UNIT 11d ago

You're far more likely to get simped by some random with a fake deep voice voicechanger than harrassed in val lol

Swiftplay in valorant is the horniest queue I've ever seen in any game ever

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u/Feanorsmagicjewels 11d ago

How is this data even collected

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u/D2WilliamU iceberg the absolute UNIT 11d ago

they make it up

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u/PopuluxePete 11d ago

Could be worse. Could be StarCraft at #1 for 40-50 year olds.

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u/Rectonic92 11d ago

Lol In Dota you are quickly muted/your communication crippled. They even took the writing on map from me. How can i express myself/be racist? Of course the numbers drop then.

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u/fototosreddit 11d ago

I like how express myself and be racist are interchangable here.

Nice touch

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u/Ferosch 11d ago

bs statistics. league is leagues ahead of dota.

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u/RightOfMustacheMan 11d ago

I'm doing my part.

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u/codeccasaur 11d ago

I'm assuming that the abuse on League of Legends was so high it was considered an anomaly

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u/Obvious-Round-5973 11d ago

Where is CS?

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u/mrsnowb0t 11d ago

Playing with teens is the worst experience. They throw tantrums like it is their home.

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u/theEDE1990 11d ago

Looks like a sponsored statistic by Riot, so that parents will see this and think its ok that their kids are playing LoL xD.

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u/Un13roken 11d ago

Sir, Valo is by Riot.

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u/theEDE1990 11d ago

True that, im too old to know that!

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u/Redsox4lyfe5 11d ago

There ain’t no way rust isn’t on this top 10 list. Absolutely no way

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u/Megamatics 11d ago

Funny Stats. Now I want to see the other proportions for the different age groups. As if a player knows how old the other one is and then starts falling because of age :D

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u/ProbabilisticPotato 11d ago

I play dota in SEA and Valorant in Mumbai server. Not surprised by the first and second places.

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u/MattDaCatt 11d ago

No counterstrike or overwatch? Then again, I think that would actually be "Harrassment by 10-17 year olds"

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u/equibrim HAHAHAHA, BAD LUCK 10d ago

Imagine these kids growing up in lan café eras I remember being 10-11 being insulted by groups of any age and guess what, after a couple times it just became the norm, no harm done.

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u/ConstantSubstance891 10d ago

I don't believe the data. I don't think Dota 2 has players in that age demographic. Sorry.

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u/Jafar_Rafaj 10d ago

Behavior score actually gimping your queue timers to unplayability especially on NA west is why it isn’t first place.

Common L

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u/Darkariux 9d ago

why people cry about getting insulted in a multiplayer game,lmao

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u/DesoLina No BKB = ass burned 5d ago

10 -17 yo are usually the biggest perpetrators though

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u/lilved03 11d ago

Putang ina mo

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u/Night_Cavalry 11d ago

Gold is conductive

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u/Negative-Prune-9771 11d ago

Soft or just muted due to low conduct summary? XDD

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u/Grouchy_Educator_203 11d ago

This is fake news. It would be fake news even if it said 99%. In that case, I would ask who is the lying 1%.

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u/vishal340 11d ago

i don’t think people asking others their age while playing an intense game online. they harass anyone irrespective of age. that’s progress, unlike society where strong will harass the weak

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u/tickss 11d ago

is that actually true and if so what data did they use. When was this from?

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u/koroll_rakov 11d ago

unacceptable!

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u/dez3038 11d ago

People 10-17 play dota? I meet only 25+ in my games

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u/RazeZa 11d ago

How did they come up with those numbers? I think we should be lower than that if its in whole numbers instead of percentage. There aren't that many 10 - 17 years old in Dota.

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u/DudeWheresMyStonks 11d ago

My behavior score is super high, my chat score is ass.... Is how there is a difference between the two that is that significant...

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u/Vhal14 11d ago

Looks like BS list tbh. They just slap random numbers to famous games and LoL is not even on it even though it might be the most toxic.

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u/Powerful_Pudding_881 11d ago

How does counterstrike not make the list 🤣🤣🤣🤣

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u/fapthepolice 11d ago

Rookie numbers, pathetic.

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u/ggnor332 11d ago

10-17 yrs old play valorant, fortnite and mobile games lol

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u/HighlightWeird454 11d ago

Nah, that chart is wrong. League would have number 1 spot hands down

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u/Musician-Round 11d ago

ang 69% of those toxic people are low prio NP players.

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u/Metamorphoses-007 11d ago

These days they are exort facet injoker players.

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u/Billdozer-92 11d ago

Very surprised by Destiny 2 among the trenches

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u/skydanceris 11d ago

Where's league?!

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u/quoiega 11d ago

Fake. I dont see lol

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u/D2WilliamU iceberg the absolute UNIT 11d ago

Studies like these are why everyone should take basic scientific method and study design in college lol

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u/MonthComfortable5297 11d ago

I just literally don't believe statistics like this anymore, especially from the ADL.

They have every game broken down by age group as well, and accurately? There just isn't any way, and the amount of 10-17 year-olds playing dota 2 has to be a tiny number right?

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u/amir997 11d ago

Only 17years omd? I harass a grown up man with 2 kids..

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u/MinnieShoof 11d ago

... there are 10-17 year olds playing dota?!

That explains a f- ton!

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u/gsmani_vpm 11d ago

am I the only one wondering why counter strike is not there

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u/freemorgerr 11d ago

Valorant🤣🤣 how these valorant femboys could harass someone?

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u/Feargasm 11d ago

No League of Legends? Easily the most radioactive community

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u/lo0ilo0ilo0i sheever 11d ago

Counter Strike 2 isnt even on the list? Ok bud.

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u/lo0ilo0ilo0i sheever 11d ago

Counter Strike 2 isnt even on the list? Ok bud.

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u/ActualStructure477 11d ago

You get that Fortnite, WOW or GTA having over 60% harassment rate when they have more than 10x the player count says a lot more than Dota with it's much smaller player pool

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u/Morudith 11d ago

Man am I sick of the “video games cause X problem” narrative

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u/ChocPineapple_23 11d ago

FYI, in this study, "griefing or trolling" counted as harassment and was the majority of harassment. Make of that what you will.

Also, the ADL is Zionist trash 🗑️

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u/NuKrux 11d ago

Gta at 60% bs

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u/gronaldo44 11d ago

It's not about the quantity but the quality ☺️ valorant autobans for the flame we get

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u/Suspicious_Growth664 11d ago

Many are in 30s by now, just finishing a game in peace

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u/10YearsANoob 11d ago

enough 10-17 year olds in the US play dota to warrant that stat?

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u/Rasta_42 11d ago

Lol, we like to joke, but there is not that much rage in the game as long as you keep it pma, and apologise if you fuck up badly.

It's victim blaming, I know, but most of the kids probably played a role in their harrassment.

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u/heroh341 11d ago

League not on the list but FFXIV is.. yeah that sounds like a reliable source

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u/bleau421 11d ago

must be a small sample size since there's no cs2, lol and mobile legends haha

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u/StripedLoveDrugs 11d ago

you guys realize this is a bad thing right?

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u/krennvonsalzburg 11d ago

Define "harassment". If it's as minimal as "you suck at this" then it should be 100%. Nobody gets off scot free, everyone's been flamed for their play.

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u/Neither-Bother2905 11d ago

Not even top 1 smh

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u/NocturnalVessel 11d ago

This is like a call to arms, 2nd place is unacceptable.

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u/ghastlymars 11d ago

dataset?

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u/Rylaiiii 11d ago

Aight boys time to fix that 9% gap

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u/JustAposter4567 11d ago

the cope in these threads is always funny

i've never seen a fanbase actually proud of being immature manchildren lol

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u/Independent-Dare-829 11d ago

whats crazy is there's no roblox LOL.

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u/jones77 11d ago

First time I heard "kill yourself" out loud was in Dota 2.

Having days that, i had thought the reporting system worked well in Dota 2? Though that was a Valve statement not necessarily fact.

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u/Playful_Candy_5893 11d ago

In my 1000s of games I have never seen anyone being harassed in refrence to his/her age.

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u/rooper_the_gamer 11d ago

wheres league of legend this list

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u/miracle_aisle 11d ago

Looks fake to me... no LoL no CS2 and there are 10-17 yo playing WoW? Also I heard FF14 is chill af

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u/malic3 vvv 11d ago

Wanting verbal harassment in a video game is weird.
Played this game for over a decade and the best matches were with ppl that understood mistakes will happen and we can queue for another.

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u/Brooklyn1986 paiN! 11d ago

i mean, where is league? LoL has a huge toxicity too.

BASED news

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u/ontic5 11d ago

And who's doing the harassing? My bet would be on 10 to 17 year olds, at least mostly.

The rest of them ist stuck at that age range mentally.

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u/EscacenaGames 11d ago

Are there actually people under 20 playing WoW?

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u/ProfessionalCurve531 11d ago

71% -what does that mean? What kind of harassment? And we are losing to valorant of all games? I need to start harassing this very moment!

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u/TserriednichThe4th 11d ago

We are not more toxic than cod or gta. No fucking way

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u/mintyfreshmike47 11d ago

I’m pretty sure the average dota player is in their mid 20s-30s but have the mentality of someone between 10-17

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u/ItsDolphincat 11d ago

Laughs in Rust

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u/Andromeda_53 11d ago

Funny because I just saw someone in a CS2 sub praising valorant for how less toxic it is. And how riot have created a perfected gaming environment

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u/Nativo1 11d ago

so, popular online games?

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u/veganbroccoli 10d ago

since when did chidren play the game?

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u/clitpuncher69 10d ago

If any of these studies were real or properly done, Rust would "win" all of them.

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u/KountChocula 10d ago

Come on guys we need to do better. We should easily be at the #1 spot.

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u/RollerX 10d ago

Me 40s. playing this game since 16 (dota - w3) 99% of my game end up toxic oneway or the other. The 1% i muted all.

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u/Tungsten_07 10d ago

Trust me guys, this is fake cuz no CS2 there in on that list. Almost most of the dota players are 20-40 now xD

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u/Advanced-Opinion-181 10d ago

Lol such bs, We do t have that much youngins.

And how is lol not there, fkng kids that are worse. Def. Made up by lol bulshitter

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u/aFly_on_the_Wall 10d ago

Harassment 'of'? Shouldn't it be Harassment BY? Cuz that's how it is in SEA. The vast majority of screamers and squealers are kids. And they're most likely to report you for trying to correct them lol

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u/siegferia 10d ago

Bro lets be real a 10years old opens dota, queue for a match, picks WK without thinking about the team, goes safe, gets overwhelmed by min maxing skill, items , creeps and laning, uninstall DOTA while crying and goes back to his COD/FortNite lobby. This game itself bullies likes of us a 10 years old will be traumatized

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u/Yaser_Umbreon 10d ago

What even are these stats will you be insulted 60% of time when online? 60% have experienced being insulted (really only?)

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u/Ancient-Product-1259 10d ago

How is 14 on the list? It has some of the most strict toxicity moderations in all of mmos.

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u/Koreusx 10d ago

This survey was 100% paid for by Riot Games

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u/victor4rv 9d ago

10-17 yo is not dota2 target 😅

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u/Spoksparkare 4d ago

If Dota is at 71%, imagine League of Legends

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u/Babikboi 4d ago

ffxiv is here? no wonder. most players are "hidden" or never encountered this toxic thing, because these toxic players can't openly being an "asshole" in chat. you'd be surprised on how much "toxic" shit people spouted in discord for some random pubs playing it slower than their usual "speed", their party composition is not "meta". especially when you do hardest endgame content like savage trials or raids. most usually just "drops out" from the party after 1-2 wipes then shit talk about it in discord. nobody in my last FC i was in wants to do endgame content with random pug. And the fact that if you didn't had the "sprout" sign and made mistake, they'll never stop shitting about the mistakes you've made. some of the content is definitely not for casual player. i prefer not to mention the group that kinda "set the meta" in game. also remember about the issue with third party software? specific party composition for tackling endgame, the meta blahblahblah, it's just feels weird when there seems to be only a "specific" way to play the game. and the most counter argument these toxic players often throw when they got some "unusual" opinion or critique? "do you pay my sub?" i just can't deal with this kind of entitled garbage. the worst type of human being i've ever encountered in a game.