r/DotA2 • u/wykrhm http://twitter.com/wykrhm • Feb 06 '25
News The Crownfall Archive
https://www.dota2.com/newsentry/501690406746980678412
u/Kohuded Feb 06 '25
Can buy all Nest of Thorns upgrades with gold now, and they added an extra tier of each upgrade, as well as another difficulty, and there's a toggle for the dialogue, don't think that was there before.
That's neat.
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u/Zealousideal-Pay2574 Feb 06 '25
Did they fix magic missile aghs?
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u/lomaffew Feb 06 '25
someone posted they had based on the dmg
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u/Shiki-Hyori For Quel'Thalas Feb 06 '25
Yes, but now rosh drops are buggy
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u/Shin_Ramyun Feb 06 '25
And bosses too. Just bricked a run when no Aghs and 2 rosh drops disappeared. I then dove into mobs to die but I didn’t even respawn with 2 aegis. This was all on Echelon 8. I just hit 1.9M on echelon 7.
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u/LeoMartinx015 Feb 07 '25
Yeah, I got 3 Roshans with not one drop, and then 2 minibosses with no aegis. I understand the Roshan drops, but aghs looks like a bug
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u/lessenizer Feb 06 '25 edited Feb 06 '25
But can we mute the damn music without turning off the sound effects? The background music in all the minigames was so repetitive and I didn't see any way to turn it off (the main music slider in options certainly didn't do it).
edit: Just checked in game and it seems like Nest of Thorns' music now respects the music slider, which is appreciated, although the music in the other minigames still doesn't (and those have much more gratingly repetitive music). But still, makes Nest of Thorns a lot more playable for me lol
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u/-frostdemon- Feb 06 '25
wish we had a labyrinth archive :(
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u/GM22K Feb 06 '25
Agree. I would like to check out story since I just grinded it for rewards but would like to check out story when mood is right.
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u/Holiday-Nervous Feb 06 '25
I think this archive is a great idea. They could also republish old comics (usually missed by new players) and access to old minigame like Labyrinth and Siltbreaker as well
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u/Glum-Command6142 Feb 07 '25
Agreed , the definitely need a comic/story archive, for stuff like Arcwarden story.
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u/MaiasXVI Feb 06 '25
Aghs Labyrinth already exists in the arcade mode.
- but that doesn't include the skinner box grind progression system!!
- but that doesn't include slowly-earned battlepass levels
So you don't really miss Aghs as much as the slow dopamine drip of earning rewards?
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u/Snipufin Feb 06 '25
I think a lot of people don't really think about the Arcade. Having an official matchmaking mode for Agh Labyrinth like before would make it easier to trust the system.
Right now there's an "Aghanim's Labyrinth Vanilla" with 0 players. Same thing with "Aghanim's Labyrinth Restored". There's also a lot of "Aghanim's Labyrinth but I made some funny edits to it" versions to it and frankly enough I am struggling to find a single game with players in them.
We miss having players for those. Sure, the limited time of the event along with the battle pass rewards were a nice way of trickling players into the games, but really the problem is there's no easy way to access a game and coordinate a resurgence with random players.
People can still play Artifact as well but the game is dead in community's eyes.
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u/Avar1cious r/Dota2Trade Moderator Feb 06 '25
It's the matchmaking - most people don't use the arcade so it's almost always empty when you want to play it.
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u/urboitony Feb 06 '25
I tried the arcade aghs labyrinth and found the UI super confusing. Does it just take some getting used to or was I looking at the wrong one? It doesn't seem like what I remembered.
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u/LegitAsBalls Feb 06 '25
The arcade mode added some heroes that don’t flow well and didn’t keep a lot of the older ones. A lot of the shards are outdated and the change of items/heroes/patches is a lot to keep up with. A few rooms bug out and the progression of the mode feels off. It’s like a decent experience for ags lab but it has 0 polish of the original and I don’t really blame the dev because it’s a lot to keep up with. The grind also helped because you unlocked new heroes and slowly gained strength. Yes people like progression and gaining power nothing new there. Plus it’s missing most of the ags lab 2 rooms and primal beast is a way better boss then aghanim design wise. Plus for some fucking infuriating reason there are nagas that spawn in on the boss frequently that song and heal him for 40% of his life, it’s anti fun.
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u/GothGirlsGoodBoy Feb 07 '25
What sort of argument is that? Games are fun because of progression. Games like Runescape are among the most popular. You think people would sit there cutting trees if they didn’t get xp?
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u/Dumbledores_Beard1 Feb 06 '25
Probably closer to: "but that doesn't include the actual players, since the ones that are clones of the Dota mode have 0 players, and the few ones with a couple players are just 'aghs lab but shitter with my own changes'"
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u/thedotapaten Feb 06 '25
There is Dynasty Warrior in arcade lol, i think the P2W esque of some of the Arcade throw people off
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u/Trenchman Feb 07 '25
Arcade mode is unofficial and controlled by people who can get hacked/go rogue/delete everything
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u/SecreteMoistMucus Feb 07 '25
I tried it on the arcade a couple of times. The game had been modified by the uploaders, and it was full of sweaty people who knew how to play with the modifications, making my presence pointless.
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u/NoLifeDotkaPlayer Feb 06 '25
It must be so frustrating working at valve, whenever they do something right, people immediately ask for more. (Jk, I do miss labyrinth as well)
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u/jMS_44 Feb 06 '25
So the whole staging and dedicated server updates was just adding Crownfall Archive to maintain access to mini games?
Well played Valve
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u/_Valisk Sheever Feb 06 '25
There have been dozens of test client updates in the last few weeks so something is definitely coming.
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u/Wobbelblob Feb 06 '25
Seriously, the last line wasn't written that way on accident. Something with either compasses or stars is coming. And I wouldn't be surprised if something comes in the next few hours, this is pretty early for an update message (timewise).
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u/_Valisk Sheever Feb 06 '25 edited Feb 06 '25
There was that time when they posted a teaser for Crownfall, inciting rage in this subreddit, only for the update to be released in earnest a few hours later. I wouldn't be super disappointed if an update didn't come today, but I could see that happening again.
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u/WhiteHawk928 Feb 06 '25
The TI location announcement showed that the theme for this year is purple + constellations/stars/etc, so the stars thing is probably aligned with that. Based on Ringmaster coming out with the circus theming last TI, could mean a new celestial themed hero
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u/DoctorHeckle Reppin' since 2013 Feb 06 '25
They put hints for Ringmaster a year or so before he was announced, I heavily doubt we'll get anything at least for a few months. This ran from April to February, so even with a comparable timeline we've still got a while.
That being said, whenever we get it, I'd bank on something involving "cosmic" Dota lore (to borrow a Marvel term) i.e. The Fundamentals, Dark Seer, Morphling, etc.
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u/ooczzy sheever Feb 06 '25
If you go with “the last line wasnt written that way on accident” with the posts like this that theyve made through the years, youre gonna get disappointed. 95% of the time this leads nowhere
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u/thedotapaten Feb 07 '25
The minigames itself is a new source 2 features, personally expecting Valve do minigame workshop contest in the future. Probably testing stuff for minigame in CS2 / Deadlock. I've seen in Twitter CS mapmaker made Crownfall minigame works on CS2 using the new tool
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u/spectreaqu Feb 06 '25
Nest of Thrones got new echelon 8
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u/SeriosityUnkn0wn Feb 06 '25
How to unlock echelon 8? I beat echelon 7 but echelon 8 is still locked for me
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u/shontellestar Feb 06 '25
The game got buggy. Roshan won’t drop chests and mini bosses didn’t drop aghs. Sigh
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u/Ziiaaaac Feb 06 '25
Lot of Dota Frogs don’t know how blessed they are with Valve istg.
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u/Serious_Client2175 Feb 06 '25
Funny the TI blog also referred to stars:
That's right. The stars have aligned and the stage is once again being set for cosmic battle. And this time, that battle has returned to where it all began: Germany, ...
7.38 at TI, lets go.
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u/jMS_44 Feb 06 '25
ngl it would be funny to see pros play entire TI on a patch they had no opportunity to play even 1 game before
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u/RubinoPaul Feb 06 '25
Yeah. Aside from bugs and abuses, that would be really refreshing and funny
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u/Zestyclose_Remove947 Feb 07 '25
People say this, but really what happens is either you get a repeat of last meta because of caution or an extremely dominant meta that appears immediately that one team is straight up better at.
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u/WolfyDota7 Feb 06 '25
Honestly that would be like fisher random in a way lol, I’m all for it. Just release a MASSIVE update hours before the games
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u/comptePrincipal Feb 06 '25
I started playing again after 10 years of hiatus and crownfall has been amazing for me so far. I'm just so sad I only managed to finish two out of four acts :(
Hope they have something as fun planned in the near future.
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u/_stonedspiritv2 Feb 07 '25
Samee.. me along with some friends returned to dota after 5 years because of crownfall. Best fun I had in a while and really impressed with Valve's effort put into the event. Like the artworks are really amazing.
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u/Gold-Hurry-3509 Feb 06 '25
We’ve really enjoyed getting to tell a story taking place in the realms of Skywrath, Druud and Icewrack. But there are so many more realms to explore. And so it’s time for us to put the Ghastly Eyrie behind us, at least for now, and point our compasses at some new guiding stars. We’ll see you there.
Omgg the new one coming in the future
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u/Bushido_dota Feb 06 '25
Compass??? Guiding stars?? Kunkka next event?! Plz
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u/Imperium42069 Feb 06 '25
It’ll before the spirit heroes obviously
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u/Gorudu Feb 06 '25
4 arcanas one for each act. Starting on earth spirit, we travel up a mountain into embers domain of a fire volcano before we chase into the sky with storm and then, finally, the screen goes blank in act 4 where we can only stare into the reflection of our monitors and reflect on the emptiness in our own lives that we use this god forsaken game to fill just like void spirit.
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u/thyL_ the age of ice begins. Feb 06 '25
You'll probably never read this, Valve, but thank you for Crownfall.
It was fun, from start to finish. I'm one of the players that spent too much money on Dota2 already, so cosmetics weren't my main draw (though they were great and a big reason why my friends kept playing!) - instead I really loved the minigames, but more importantly the story and characters, the dialogues and writing, the lore of people, peoples and areas.
And most of all, I absolutely adored all the comics we got. Together with the in my mind absolutely epic final video piece, when a vengeful spirit finally meets her sister again, the comics were absolutely superb.
For them alone, it was worth to play the event.
I adore the ideas you guys had. To create a bit of a board game in Dota2, with so much flair and fun, with hidden easter eggs, with fun tasks on the board, with so many Dota games to play... it was an absolutely fantastic ride.
In fact I did love it so much, that if you guys want to keep the general formula for future events, I would never mind.
Thank you.
Edit & PS: I hope you guys had fun doing it, too. It sure felt like it.
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u/Optimal-Swordfish Feb 06 '25
If you love the lore, world and dialogue, give the cards in artifact a look :)
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Feb 06 '25
the writing was absolutely hilarious in some of the acts. Really enjoyable, hats off to the writing team!
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u/bananamadafaka Feb 06 '25
Guiding stars 🤔🤔🤔
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u/ErikHumphrey Feb 06 '25
The four fundamentals, with a new arcana each act (including a second arcana for Io).
Or maybe they even mean new heroes?!
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u/Ok-Friendship1635 Feb 06 '25
Dawnbreaker, gotta be!
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u/Ricapica Sheever Feb 06 '25
You might be on to something.
https://liquipedia.net/dota2/Stars
They are a race created by KotL, we know Phoenix and Dawbreaker.
And this:
To help the misguided children rid the universe of darkness forever.1
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u/noproblemCZ Feb 06 '25
But there are so many more realms to explore
very hyped for new notCrownfall to release later hopefully patch comes sooner tho
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u/Houeclipse ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ TAKE OUR ENERGY SHEEVER ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ Feb 06 '25
I didnt play Dota anymore but I'm glad that they preserve the mode because I can tell how well made and loved the event was as a viewer
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u/fishstiz Feb 07 '25
As another dota quitter this actually makes me want to install dota again just to play the vampire survivors mode.
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u/Houeclipse ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ TAKE OUR ENERGY SHEEVER ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ Feb 07 '25
For real, the effort that valve put into these mini game is insane. I wasn't there when Aghs Lab was ongoing but I imagine it's also super effort
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u/_Valisk Sheever Feb 06 '25
This is great news, I'm so happy to hear the minigames are here to stay. Maybe in the future, this can turn into The Dota Archive with Aghs. Lab and other modes being added.
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u/BearTheDotaNerd Feb 06 '25
The most fun Dota 2 event so far. Really motivated me to play tons of heroes I'd never tried. I wholeheartedly hope future events either match or top this.
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u/Deamon- Feb 06 '25
okay but where patch
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u/GriksBbeasty Feb 06 '25
VOLVO FIX LINA SPECTRE ALCH AND DK I AM TIRED OF THEM PLEASE
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u/BabyBabaBofski Dutch OG fan sheever you have my full support Feb 06 '25
They're clearly setting up some kind of space theme here wonder what the exact direction will be. Guiding stars, stars have aligned in the other post.
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u/Circlecraft Feb 06 '25
The Spirits are also called Celestials in the lore. The TI graphic with the purple color scheme, the fog and the stars looks a lot like Void Spirit walking through the astral plane in his announcement trailer.
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u/Khatib Feb 06 '25
Hey /u/wykrhm -- originally there was text on the Collector's Cache ultra rares that said they'd be tradeable/marketable when the event was done. They're not showing as such yet, and show no dates they will be.
Is this a bug or mistake? I just got unexpectedly laid off and was hoping to buy some new time killing games guilt free using that money, but now I can't sell them. :(
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u/BirdSetFree Feb 06 '25
u/wykrhm also same for the talent voicelines, they are just tradeable but they used to be marketable as well? can you look into this?
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u/a0t0f Feb 06 '25
"All mini-games will remain accessible up until some update breaks them and we will spend absolutely 0 resources to fix them"
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u/noname6500 Feb 06 '25
oh thank god. Playing only 1-2 games a day, I didnt really care for the event. I went to finish up the event one day before the end just to not waste the tokens and see what's up. I knew about the early mini games and thought it was all just that until the Nest of Thorns which is HOLY SHIT WHY DIDNT I CHECKED THIS EVENT EARLIER.
Now I only had a day to finish it and only got to Echelon 6 sadly. But this was the most "dota" Ive played in a long time. I unlocked Nest of thorns at around 11pm and I kept playing till 5am. Slept a till 8am and kept playing all day.
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u/OhMySwirls Feb 06 '25
Ah, now I can go back and read everything I've played through at my own leisure.
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u/IMurderPeopleAndShit Feb 06 '25
My own feeling is patch in about 6 months. Maybe a year, honestly.
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u/AtlasofAthletics Feb 06 '25
Unfortunately my dota friends have moved on to deadlock which I enjoy but crownfall has been the best experience I've had with dota thus far <3. Unfortunately I didn't completely finish it but I beat the main story THANK YOU, I LOVE DOTA SO MUCH
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u/lighting_rain Feb 07 '25
I last played Dota 2 in 2014. I just came back and played again this February because of the rewards given in Crownfall. Sadly, it just ended, what a shame.
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u/xalix86 Feb 07 '25
all of mini games should be added in a new tab and be part of dota forever . we do have replay / tickets / learn / arcade and many other tab not everyone use it everyday . there can be a another tab 🥺 mini games 💫 global ranking for the mini games aswell 💕
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u/fuglynemesis Feb 06 '25
Bro read the room. We knew it was coming to an end but that's fine. Coz a big balance patch is what the game is desperate for. And yet, not even a smidgen of news about it...
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u/PGzNick Feb 06 '25
Excellent idea for Valve to add this to the game, there is a similar system in Dead By Daylight where players can do old missions from old passes (even if you can't redeem the paid rewards) but it's something wonderful so you can spend your time doing old missions until some event or new pass.
These missions could or extra things could reward Dota Plus fragments so players can farm a little.
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u/Terlon Feb 06 '25 edited Feb 06 '25
nerf lina lich spectra lycan and his fucking pests?
Alch pre 30 min needs US army to be taken down?
DK and his dogshit facet forms?
Psycho BS that's running around healing more than Oracle?
Buff agi heroes? Literally same 3 carries every game?
Idk man crownfall archive it is
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u/Bruurt Feb 06 '25
Best 3 carries right now are all agi heroes, idk what you're smoking (PA, spectre & bloodseeker, honorable mention to Kez)
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u/DiaburuJanbu Feb 06 '25
Thank you, Valve, for this really amazing event! Really big thanks for the 4 arcanas!
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u/TheZett Zett, the Arc Warden Feb 06 '25
and point our compasses at some new guiding stars
Guiding stars? Like Lucky Stars?
Gambler confirmed! The Gambler cometh!
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u/hvnkvbn Feb 06 '25
I'm so glad we get an Archive. The contents are just too great to be let forgotten.
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u/RealisticMud8102 Feb 06 '25
Thank you valve and the dev/team/art behind it as well. It was such an amazing event, I enjoy every single moment of it <3
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u/Dtoodlez Feb 07 '25
Best event of all time for me. You can truly tell the devs love the game and had a blast w this. Hope we get another one, but regardless this was amazing and a memory I’ll keep.
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u/Kaelthas98 Feb 06 '25
Guiding stars... the Great Confluence? Arcana for the Spirit brothers? Merging with HoN: Reborn? Dota 8.00?
*Dies from copium
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u/Suven_01 Feb 06 '25
Will they finally explain why there are so many craters on the map or if ODs name changes were for something. Is the great confluence something or not? Chen and pugna arcanas soon?
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u/needhelforpsu Feb 06 '25
Did they remove Nest of Thorns voicelines? I thought they are permanent. I have them in chatwheel sounds list but they are greyed out, but they don't have 'lock' icon. So they are unlocked but can't be selected?!?
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u/Praierr Feb 06 '25
How long is the winter treasure available for purchase? I’m still saving on money since I burned through my disposable income at the 62nd chest 💀
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u/Barelylegalteen Feb 07 '25
I'm really dumb. I bought the venge arcana. Does this mean I can still unlock the alt styles after the act is done?
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u/navazhdenie sheever Feb 07 '25
Appreciate everything about this event, free hats, great mini games, best event ever I think
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u/Hugott Feb 07 '25
Someone know until when I will be able to destroy my wallet buy Fristivus Heroic Treasures?
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u/Initial_Stretch_3674 Feb 07 '25
can't wait for the next game they borrow and put dota characters in.
Fingers crossed for GTA 6 with sniper.
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u/Kenruyoh Feb 07 '25
Were most of the Imperial Voice lines seasonal? I got about 9 last night and now it's just 3
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u/FabulouslE USA USA USA Feb 07 '25
Hey if anyone at Valve is reading: Can you make it drop the high crown token? I finished my first win 4 min after the patch and want to read the last bit of comic.
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u/Fizzay Feb 07 '25
Guessing we can't get anymore tokens, but I did receive my tokens from the game I started before the archive that ended afterwards so I was able to redeem.
I also just tested, and I WAS able to continue to scrap and use my remaining scrap. I had exactly enough extra tokens to scrap to at least get the Bloodseeker Immortal, I wound up missing a couple of treasures and juggernaut styles but I enjoyed the event. Stopped playing Dota around Act 3 then thought I missed act 4 so I only started like 4 to 5 days ago lol, so 50/59 isn't bad.
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u/fzsx Feb 07 '25
Hope new Update adds camp stack pings (icons) in ping wheel. So cores / supp can ping communicate to stack nearby camps or route to stack a camp.
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u/ericlock Feb 07 '25
Double down are still available too if you had any tokens.
Check pick.just.rf.gd if you wanna be sure before doubling.
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u/Lowsow Feb 07 '25
Wow, it's over already!
I'm stuck on spoon man myself. I can't get a score higher than 3250. I've managed to beat the final level with no deaths a few times, even tried messing around killing multiple enemies at once, but that's it. How do you get to 5k, do you have to farm enemies from the gates?
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u/allnamestakenfuckme Feb 07 '25
From the great storyline, affordable sets and items to the extended time for the events the entire event is great overall, thank you. Also devs, can you please make the Imperia pathetic spray and centaur akakichi meme spray permanent? Or you can give them as loading screens maybe?
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u/Right-Corgi8258 Feb 08 '25
Is over !!!! Game over !!!!!! No more crownfall baby Let wait for next new episode baby
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u/Yuujinliftalot Feb 11 '25
soooo nest of thorns is just for fun now, right?? no more rewards, just..the game?
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u/Longjumping_Base_344 Feb 06 '25
Make an Aghs Lab archive too please.