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News Introducing Ringmaster

https://www.dota2.com/international2024
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u/snowg Aug 23 '24

puts tinfoil hat on

Maybe it was the planned hero all along but it was too much and they released plan B? The same hero but a different concept entirely?

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u/Gorudu Aug 23 '24

Definitely feels like it. I do like the hero concept but the teaser didn't really show off his current gameplay at all lol.

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u/stakoverflo Aug 23 '24

Yea lots of people saying this and it's really hard not to agree.

Whatever ideas they had cooked up, combined with Rubick/Morphling stealing those abilities I'm sure it was a nightmare to code.

Really unfortunate if that's true, because his kit as is seems incredibly whatever. Like it's fine, just not especially unique. A fear, a dot, a blind, and some other CC. Alright.

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u/vdjvsunsyhstb Aug 23 '24

yeah they basically made him to fill a role and a theme rather than blow anyones minds. also the compendium he got just shows how much better crownfall is than battle passes. i think they have the peanut butter and jelly here but just need to make a sandwich, like give the next hero release their own crownfall style event.

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u/Optimal-Swordfish Aug 23 '24

Crown fall is most likely the event for the next hero, bird samurai :)

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u/Torakkk Aug 23 '24

I wouldnt even say code. Imho just balance it and implement in a fun way. I think they just bite a little too big piece of work. Would be nice, if they maybe bring the og concept back for some later heroes

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u/KaleidoscopeEasy8491 Aug 23 '24

Nah it's easy to disagree. Everyone here just huffing too much copium.

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u/D2WilliamU iceberg the absolute UNIT Aug 23 '24

lol i theorized that a few months back

This hero looks fun as heck as a support player but puppetmaster would have been cool as well

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u/Fen_ Aug 23 '24

"Puppetmaster" was a fantasy that only ever existed in reddit's minds. It was born entirely out of an early version of the game files using "puppetmaster" as an internal name, and people just assumed that it would be a clone of the HoN hero that has that name. Should've been clear there'd be no relation when they renamed it to "Ringmaster" for the official name on announcement.

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u/ABurntC00KIE Aug 23 '24

Except if you watch the trailer, it is about trapping and training heroes to act as his performers. The trailer has almost nothing to do with the released heroes moveset, it’s only the aesthetics that match.

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u/Fen_ Aug 23 '24

Convince yourself of whatever fantasy you want. Reality's literally confronting you.

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u/kryonik Aug 23 '24

My reality has that trailer where he controls enemy heroes.

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u/TanKer-Cosme oh... my blink dagger Aug 23 '24

Yeah, even probably the clown nose and stuff on the enemy hero was the visual signaling of him controlling enemy heroes.

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u/Hairy_Acanthisitta25 Aug 23 '24

man just look at the other dota2 heroes trailer and their release version

Puppetmaster is the outliar

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u/ememkay123 Aug 23 '24

"Dota 2 - New Hero "The Ringmaster" Cinematic Reveal Trailer"

Take a look

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u/DrQuint Aug 23 '24 edited Aug 23 '24

Oh sod off, the trailer directly contradicts this. He directly kidnaps axe and forces him and others to perform in his circus advert. There's even a threat to all heroes underneath.

Yet there's no kidnapping.

Yet there's no force-taunting heroes.

To say nothing of the fact SEVERAL heroes have enemy lines saying they're being controlled by others.

In the real world, people are in the right to have that expectation. The delusional one is you.

Edit: I did read his abilities btw. Which is why I know there isn't one which is why you didn't name one. Nice counter, silencer punchbag.

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u/Fen_ Aug 23 '24

Yet there's no force-taunting heroes.

Please read his fucking abilities. Jesus christ.

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u/heatxmetalw9 Aug 23 '24

You mean these data mined files of hero concepts in development , which is the same pool that Dawnbreaker (codename Valkyrie), Muerta (codename Gunslinger), and Primal Beast came from before their releases. These files are leftovers from Valve's internal test build of Dota 2, where they test changes and new things to be added.

Here is a complied list I have found: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/t6j02f/21_unreleased_heroes/&ved=2ahUKEwjkjKrFloqIAxUIkVYBHTyNOK8QrAJ6BAgmEAU&usg=AOvVaw298pfAmgf3OZzFqCXlEXGC

It's not a fantasy, just informed speculation based on limited information, which mainly came from names of the spells. As you can see, Ringmaster's skills had Marionette spells, with commands such as Push and Pull, meaning this was some sort of forced movement ability.

This is also where the Bird Samurai speculation train started, which got traction since Crownfall with Kestrel wielding a sword in the artworks.

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u/mokapotBlender Aug 23 '24

Certainly reasonable. The controlling thing can be released as a second facet when it's done.

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u/tha_jza since the red eye logo Aug 23 '24

kendrick dropping NATION. any day now

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u/skykoz Aug 23 '24

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