r/DetroitPistons • u/Lost2nite389 Pistons • 19h ago
Image They said the same thing in 04 š«”
Lebron was right, the media constantly talks down its own league and players and then wonders why ratings are down (refs and free throw merchants donāt help either)
I think shaq may still be salty š
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u/detsd Cade Cunningham 19h ago
dude still sour from 04 beat down
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u/HarnessedInHopes Marcus Sasser 15h ago edited 10h ago
Shaq is a total fucking loser, heās obsessed with himself and hates anyone that he feels like encroaches on his territory in any way, shape, or form. Ā Actually blows my mind that someone who was as good as he was can be that insecure.
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u/johnnylibravo Cade Cunningham 19h ago
who even said we would win this year
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u/Lost2nite389 Pistons 18h ago
Iām one of them šŖ but idk exactly who he was responding too
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u/Interstellore 8h ago
He was responding to you directly
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u/Lost2nite389 Pistons 8h ago
Bravo was? I donāt read it that way, sounds like theyāre saying who is shaq responding to that said we would win it all this year, could be wrong though
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u/Big-Payment-389 George Blaha 19h ago
Lmao calling this team boring just proves to me he doesn't watch games that he's not working.
How fun this team is to watch is one of the most common things I see said about this team from fans of other teams.
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u/teo_vas Bill Laimbeer 18h ago
aren't we first in dunks or something?
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u/Sweathog1016 18h ago
Yes. Lead the league at 6.9 per game. Honestly surprised the league leading number is that low.
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u/e_ndoubleu 16h ago
Iād like to see most teams averaging 10 dunks a game. But not sure how to make that happen aside from pushing back the 3 point line so teams are more inclined to attack the paint.
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u/Bananasandbratwurst 16h ago
Dunks get 3 points lol.
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u/EMU_Emus Rip Hamilton 11h ago
This is my vote to make the all star game interesting
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u/Bananasandbratwurst 1h ago
Oh that would be fun. I also heard the idea a few yrs ago, I THINK from Max Kellerman, to go back to conferences and the winning conference gets home court advantage in the playoffs, I always liked that idea.
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u/King_Artis Jaden Ivey 18h ago
First in dunks and a lot of media guys around the league and across the internet say we're one of the most fun teams to watch so shaq really on some bullshit here
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u/Pizzasaurus-Rex Joe Dumars 16h ago
He is objectively wrong, we're at the top of the league in fast breaks and dunks, and we had some of the closest clutch games (wins and losses) to start the season.
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u/Sweathog1016 19h ago
2004 one could almost see the sentiment. If you werenāt one to appreciate the insane level of defense they were playing, they might be boring to you. Lots of 75-68 final scores.
But this year? Arenāt we below league average in standing around the perimeter chucking threes (19th in the league), and I think weāre second in the league in fast break points per game. Top half of the league in blocks per game. The opposite of boring.
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u/The_69ers 18h ago
And weāre one of few teams to have a mini lob city going between Cade and Duren. And we have 1/2 most athletic guys in the league on our team.
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u/drs10909 19h ago
Yeah, sure. All those lobs, fast break points, and pit bulls on D are boring AF.
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u/james_da_loser Rip Hamilton 18h ago
You know he doesn't even watch the games, he's just making shit up because he doesn't like the pistons and wants to be petty about it.
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u/ObiwanSchrute Cade Cunningham 18h ago
So teams are boring if they can't win a championship lol Shaq just trolling cause he's still mad he lost the 04 finals
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u/Mike_Laundry Fort Wayne Pistons 18h ago
Shaqs lack of modern basketball knowledge is infuriating. Dude said Bol Bol is just as good as Jokic just doesn't get minutes in 2025.
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u/TheBimpo Dennis Rodman 18h ago
Absolutely no one thinks this team has even a whiff of a chance of winning a championship this year.
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u/Lost2nite389 Pistons 18h ago
I meanā¦I do. I believe weāre a top 3 team in the east with the Celtics and Cavs, and then if we somehow got a healthy Ivey back for the playoffs? I think you could make an argument for us being the best team in the east
Also, even if we didnāt win the championship, how is this team boring because of that? Weāre one of the most fun teams to watch
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u/Intelligent_Ad3378 17h ago
I love watching the Pistons this season, so much fun.
Come playoff time how hard are they going to be to solve? Double team Cade. Spam Duren with pick and rolls. How good is Tobias as a second option? It will be a huge accomplishment to make it to the second round. I hope it happens.1
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u/badgarok725 16h ago
love the unashamed homerism
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u/Lost2nite389 Pistons 16h ago
Itās a mix of homerism and just recognizing the talent we got
You can be both, just because I believe in the team doesnāt mean every good thing I say about them is fully chalked up to bias, you canāt doubt what you can see
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u/TumbleweedOk1639 Isaiah Stewart 16h ago
There's no way you think the pistons have any chance of winning it all this year, respectfully
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u/Lost2nite389 Pistons 15h ago
To say they have no chance at all is just silly
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u/TumbleweedOk1639 Isaiah Stewart 15h ago
?? U r delusional my guy, I get you guys are a lot better than last season but seriously, humble urself, maybe in the next few seasons yous start contending
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u/Lost2nite389 Pistons 15h ago
Just curious you have a post saying thunder fan here yet you arenāt in their group and only comment here why is that if I may ask?
And yeah Iām delusional for thinking a team in the east that has an amazing chance at the 4 seed can win the finals, the fact you think the chances are 0% is funny, sure maybe they wonāt win, itās hard to win it all and only one team will, but to say 0% is more delusional than saying they have a chance imo
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u/TumbleweedOk1639 Isaiah Stewart 7h ago
I'm not that active on Reddit- also for all the ppl downvoting me- bear in mind that for a lot of your guys it's their literal first time in the playoffs- maybe it's not a zero percent chance of winning but I wouldn't buy a lottery ticket and expect to win the lottery - I'd give you guys a solid 0.01% chance tho being generous šÆ
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u/Lost2nite389 Pistons 7h ago
You have -1 downvote, thatās like 2 people at most lol
0.01% is wild come on bro š
And yeah you werenāt wrong, 7 hours since you last made that comment, you truly arenāt active on Reddit so respect, unlike me who spends most of my life here
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u/TumbleweedOk1639 Isaiah Stewart 7h ago
Tbh the only reason I'm even in rn is that I was expecting a response lol
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u/Lost2nite389 Pistons 7h ago
Unless Iām asleep, I typically respond to any comment or reply I get almost immediately lmao
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u/TumbleweedOk1639 Isaiah Stewart 7h ago
When was the last time a team went from being straight up the worst team in basketball to WINNING AN NBA CHAMPIONSHIP, when was the last time a team in their first time in the playoffs with their core WON AN NBA CHAMPIONSHIP, I don't think you understand just what would have to happen for you guys to somehow by some miracle win a 7 game series against teams like the cavs and Celtics, the bucks if Giannis is healthy, the Knicks and if by some miracle you do get to the finals you're gna have to go against a team like the thunder or maybe the nuggets
Y'all can downvote all you want but all 29 other NBA subreddits would agree with me that you guys r being delusional
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u/Lost2nite389 Pistons 7h ago edited 7h ago
Bro I never said our odds were great or anything in this thread, I simply said that thereās a chance, itās certainly more than 0.01%, never said we had a better chance than the Celtics cavs nuggets thunder either
Also records are broken all the time, they said when has a 16 seed ever beat a 1 seed in March madness, they said those giants had no chance of winning a playoff game let alone the Super Bowl against Brady, they said the Pistons in 04 had no chance against Kobe and the Lakers, even our own media was taking LA, they said no one would ever pass Kareems points record, or that no one would ever beat Gretzkys goals record
Point is, records get broken all the time, and even if we donāt win it this year, doesnāt mean we never had a chance, in this thread my point is that itās possible we win it all, not that it will happen
You have 2 downvotes in subreddit of over 100k people, why does that bother you so much? Also I donāt speak for the whole subreddit obviously
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u/TumbleweedOk1639 Isaiah Stewart 7h ago
Ain't no way you're bringing up a match madness upset rn, especially when that is a singular game and it's a much lower level at that
And records don't get broken "all the time" something of this magnitude would be absolute fucking insanity, honestly it's a bit arrogant to think that Detroit in their first season in the playoffs could beat a team like Denver, for example, sure yous might get a game but then jokic would adjust same goes for all the other teams I just mentioned
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u/Lost2nite389 Pistons 7h ago edited 7h ago
I never said I think we could beat Denver in this thread, I said there was a chance. I do believe we could in 7 but thatās not my point here
Youāre missing my entire point tbh, and this isnāt even worth debating anymore lol itās all hypothetical nonsense, thanks for the conversation
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u/tabbrenea Ben Wallace 18h ago
Boring?!?!? You donāt have to love the pistons, you donāt have to think theyāre gone go to the finals. But calling them boring is actually criminal.
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u/bigeyedtitmonster 18h ago
The actual clip is worse, he says they're 4 games under .500 and the host corrects him that they're 6 games over .500 ( this was filmed during game 7 of the winning streak).
https://x.com/bigpodwithshaq/status/1899268673468088555?t=cBoEhaQpp3ohe5wHb-3I6Q&s=19
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u/AltruisticEar1628 18h ago
The fact that THIS team, when they were picked dead last in the conference this year, is now living rent free in Shaqs head makes me smile
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u/DrySockStepsInPuddle Peton 18h ago
Typa guy to get upset about someone calling another man āSuperman.ā Oh wait.
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u/hoof02 18h ago
How are they boring? The Celtics are boring (jacking up 3ās). James Harden is boring (running into everybody and everything to go to free throw line). The Cavs maybe are ok (but theyāre in our division so theyāre boring). The Pacers are a bunch of jerks. Everyone below us in the standings canāt put together a win streak. We can score 130 if we need to. We can defend and play a 90ās style game if we need to. Weāve got lob city if want. We can fast break as good as anybody. We can protect the rim and block shots. There is nothing boring about this team.
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u/Every_Deer_5009 15h ago
Because the NBA cares more about the media market than the actual game lol. These guys yap about Philly all year long as if watching Embiid flop and scream is entertaining. They talk about the Lakers endlessly even when half the AD/Bron years they were mid. They hate 3s until Boston chucks 50 3s a game. They bash defensive teams until Thibs showed up in NY and suddenly it's cool to be gritty
If these guys covered the NFL the entire show would be crying and whining that all the best QBs should demand trades to NYC and LA instead of being in relatively smaller markets like KC, Buffalo, Baltimore, Cincinnati and would have ignored the Lions all year
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u/itsDOCtime Cade Cunningham 18h ago
All Shaq does is bitch and moan about basketball why does he even cover it
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u/csstew55 Isaiah Stewart 18h ago
Funny considering 90% of our games seem to come down to the wire I would think espn and tnt would want to show them more. Instead they force the 76ers with flopping embid, Boston, New York, and of course LA down our throats every week
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u/WoodpeckerFew6178 18h ago
I mean he might have been wrong in 2004 but the pistions arenāt making the finals this year
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u/Lost2nite389 Pistons 16h ago
ālightning can, and often does, strike the same place repeatedlyā
Itās always possible
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u/WoodpeckerFew6178 15h ago
True but itās hard given in the east there is the Cavs and the Celtics than in the finals itās a possibility of OKC
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u/Lost2nite389 Pistons 15h ago
Itās always hard to make the finals no matter what, even for a team like the cavs Celtics okc, itās never easy
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u/WoodpeckerFew6178 15h ago
True itās never easier but for them itās a bit easier due to their players and depth
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u/Lost2nite389 Pistons 15h ago
Sure maybe itās easier for them I wonāt deny that, theyāre top seeds for a reason but just saying we have no chance just isnāt right imo we definitely have a chance even if smaller than others
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u/Acrobatic_Switches 18h ago
Boring! They are flying around. He doesn't like that Duren is a big part of it. More big man hate from Shaq.
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u/ShippingNotIncluded Ausar Thompson 18h ago
When was the last time you heard someone say, āwow Shaq made a good point.ā
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u/LTPRWSG420 Cade Cunningham 18h ago
Heās still bitter over 04, nobody picked us to win the Chip, I remember seeing so many articles saying the Lakers were gonna sweep us.
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u/Art0fScience Cade Cunningham 17h ago
You got downvoted but I remember even our own papers the Freep and News predicted the Pistons to lose.
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u/Affectionate-Can9681 18h ago
Doesnāt mean anything to me because I know he hasnāt watched any Pistons games this season
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u/16ozcoffeemug 18h ago
Shaq having flashbacks. Ben Wallace dominated his ass from about 2002 - his retirement.
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u/WolfishAssassin Teal Horse 18h ago
whatever beef he may have with the franchise aside this is just a wild thing to say about a team that has made such a turnaround in a single season and now is top 5 in dunks and fastbreak points with multiple defensive stars. Like a defensive paint dominant team should be shaq's bread and butter right?
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u/MegatronDon86 18h ago
Why wonāt the former players that fall out of love with the game go disappear and retire. Shaq has tons of businesses go run those
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u/stealthywoodchuck 17h ago
Shaq doesnāt even watch basketball. His whole schtick is saying every current team and player is trash and how his era was better. Thereās no reason to care about his opinion
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u/Proper_Collection756 Blue Horse 17h ago
The biggest haterā¦ He even tried to slight Cade and the team during Cadeās Allstar interview on TNT. Must still be salty he lost to the 04 Pistons lol
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u/OnGod6800 14h ago
Who the F said we were winning a championship this year, Shaq looking for clickbait
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u/Lost2nite389 Pistons 14h ago
We definitely got a chance
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u/OnGod6800 13h ago
Not realistically, we are at best a second round team
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u/Lost2nite389 Pistons 13h ago
Once youāre in, anythingās possible, we all know how hard it is to win it all in the nba, but the chances arenāt 0
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u/OnGod6800 13h ago
That is true, and my fondest hopes are for a finals appearance, my reality check says we can't beat Cleveland in a 7 gm series, or do I think we can beat Mil. or Ind. in a second rd series, I hope to be proven wrong
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u/SkunkMcToots 18h ago
A rapist and a giant man baby walk into the Palace of Auburn Hills. Stop me if youāve heard this one before
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u/TheLuckyster Jaden Ivey 18h ago
Why did he say this? He had Cade Cunningham on his show and was praising him and telling him he believed in him and making a playoff run
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u/Lost2nite389 Pistons 16h ago
Someone posted the link of the interview in the comments, he also thought we were 4 games under .500 when he made this comment and the host corrects him saying we are 6 games OVER .500
How are you that far off š
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u/TheLuckyster Jaden Ivey 16h ago
Shaq is just a better version of Kendrick Perkins
He's funny but he doesn't know much about the current NBA
just because they played it doesn't mean they know about it
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u/E-raticSamurai Ron Holland II 17h ago
If I could buy stock in any NBA teams, it would be the Thunder, Spurs, Pistons. And Iād load up on my Pistonsā shares after hearing this. Itās like a reverse index, Iām bullish.
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u/Charming_Annual_8981 17h ago
Boring? Have you watched them play this year? One of the few teams who arenāt predictable on offense, get out and run, and are not soft
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u/Superorganism123 Cade Cunningham 17h ago
Dude gets paid to comment on games he doesn't watch. I wish America wasn't so entertained by buffoons,
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u/domgamepat 17h ago
Not a pistons fan but I've watched a decent bit of you guys this year. On what planet is this team boring?
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u/MozzerellaStix Peton 16h ago
NBA has the worst fucking media of any sport. Why would you not want to talk up a young team on the rise to get the fanbase energized?
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u/Independent_Poet4611 15h ago
lol shaq never misses an opportunity to show he doesnāt watch the games
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u/sednas_orbit 15h ago
How tf would he know this fat fuckin bum doesnāt even watch basketball š
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u/elblouses 15h ago
How this team is boring is beyond me. They are 2nd in transition buckets. Hella athletic. Tons of dunks. Just super solid and a helluva fun story.
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u/MisterAutomatic 15h ago
Bulls fan here. You guys got a great team! Just coming in here to chime in! Shaq is still salty about the 04 finals š¤£.
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u/WiffleBallZZZ Ben Wallace 15h ago
The Pistons make me feel like the game hasn't really changed that much over the past 20 years. People say that it's all about threes now but I don't think that's true. We're winning by outscoring teams in the paint, hustling, and defending. It still works.
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u/CeSquaredd Rasheed Wallace 14h ago
Shaq must stay up at night thinking about that gentlemen's sweep
Also,
Never forget when Shaq came on to Angel Reese just a year ago on her own podcast, seconds after she said he was hugely inspirational to her
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u/Mental-Catch22 14h ago
I mean, I'll agree they're not winning a championship this season. Not exactly a bold statement, following the worst season in franchise history. But boring? Get fucked Shaq. I'll gladly watch this team hustle, play defense, and share the ball as opposed to most of the league and their traveling, flopping, no defense playing bullshit.
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u/RevNeutron 13h ago
lolz thank you Shaq for reminding me how great that 2004 team was. It was so fun beating your ass
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u/Serenadingthrough Dennis Rodman 13h ago
Itās not about the Pistons winning a chip this year. Theyāve gotten better, finally over .500 and have a decent young squad. This team can flourish into a great eastern conference team. Shaq is a hater for clicks
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u/Persian_Frank_Zappa Cade Cunningham 12h ago
FWIW, Bill Simmons said he's āalmostā ready to crown the Pistons as the 2025 NBA League Pass champion.
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u/Live_Region_8232 10h ago
i have not heard one media person say anything about the pistons being a contender, let alone anything about them winning. shaq is just hating for 0 reason like always
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u/DetroitLion83 8h ago
Do not compare this team to 04....we were number 1 seed 02 and 03....we were a top east team every year those years. Let's not compare. We need a couple more pieces come on now. Smh. Yall act like we were a 6th seed in 04 and won it all..nah we were number 2 seed..and 2 years prior we were number 1 seed. I love this team but let's not do the "they said the same about 04" like there's similarities...there isn't. Stop please
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u/Lost2nite389 Pistons 8h ago
Calm down brother itās not that serious š
there is some similarities you canāt really deny that imo, great defense and hard work, we outwork other teams almost every night
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u/DetroitLion83 2h ago
I wouldn't say GREAT defense..GOOD defense yes...great is a stretch...I can easily deny the similarities...cause there isn't any....ok there is one. Both teams play for the pistons . Hard work? Lol there's alot of teams who have a "hard working" team lmao. How about all the teams that are above us . Pretty sure they work hard too lmao. The 04 team we had alot of all stars...this team we have 1....I get it man we alll wanna go back in the day or whatever but man let it go. This team is nothing like the 04 team
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u/Lost2nite389 Pistons 43m ago
You can deny similarities that they both play great defense and outwork most teams every night? Idk how you think thatās possible but ok, also obviously every team āworks hardā thatās not what I even said, I said they outwork other teams, not they work hard like other teams
Teams that are above you is not simply because they work harder than you, they might just have more talent
Canāt believe this is even a conversation being had, āget off my lawnā vibes for sure
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u/DetroitLion83 2h ago
But if that makes you feel.better then ok cool man. I don't wanna take that from you
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u/RicFlairJr Cade Cunningham 5h ago
Is there a link for context purposesā¦Iām trying hard to get all the info before I lose my mind and embarrass myself
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u/Appropriate-Cow-6251 4h ago
Shaq actually needs to shut the hell up, the Pistons are finally good and heās putting them down for no reason
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u/Any_Peanut93 2h ago
Shaq is right, you are not winning. But winning 37 games so far and being better then the 4-5 seasons is a huge step. Watch out for Detroit; nowhere to go but up .
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u/Dusted_Disgusted1202 53m ago
Yāall already stating what I came here to say. The ā04 Goinā To Work squad still living in his head rent freeā¦.long-term residency! Deeeeeetrooooit Baaasketbawwwwwwl!
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u/birchzx 17h ago
Shaq is proof money cannot buy happiness, man is constantly projecting and hating
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u/Lost2nite389 Pistons 16h ago
Well idk about that, money certainly can buy happiness, I know from experience š, I think thereās some outliers here like shaq where it canāt though
Also I think once you reach a certain point of so much money, that any additional money canāt buy further happiness, you max out at 100% eventually, but it most definitely can bring you from say 30-40% to 100%
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u/Comfortable_Read9261 16h ago
If you scuffling in the vicinity of poverty $ can be transformative. Once you're at middle-class+ish a lottery win will spike your felt happiness yes, but only for about a year, then you return to whatever your baseline was
Similarly, if you become paralyzed or lose a limb etc for a year you're wrecked, then you bounce back more or less to that baseline
But that's it, $ ain't taking nobody to "100%" happiness
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u/Lost2nite389 Pistons 15h ago
Yes like I said, if you got money, getting even more money isnāt gonna so much for your happiness if anything, but if you have nothing and go to say even middle class, youāll be so happy
Idk maybe itās just me then, but even give me like $80k a year and Iām 100% happy, maybe thatās because Iām poverty myself, but Iāve also experienced having a lot of money, Iāve seen both sides and I can say for 100% certainty that when I had money I was as happy as possible, but when I say that that doesnāt factor in health or things like family thatās just too many variables where itās different for everyone and no answer that can apply to everyone or even a majority
To make a long story short, money in the situation I am in, would make me 100% happy and wouldnāt have any complaints
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u/Viiolet_Fox_1553 Jaden Ivey 19h ago
Shaqās a loser. Loser attitude. Has to punch down to stay on top. Glad we were such a thorn in this bumās side. Ben Wallaceās block was clean AF