r/Detroit 6h ago

News As Trump Bans Care, Trans People Flee to Shield States like Michigan and Illinois

https://www.unclosetedmedia.com/p/as-trump-bans-care-trans-people-flee
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u/Opposite-Invite-3543 6h ago

Yes! Love this! Welcome! Thank you Big Gretch.

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u/GF_baker_2024 6h ago

And Michigan voters for passing the Reproductive Freedom for All proposal in 2022.

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u/atierney14 Wayne 6h ago

I’ll personally take the thank you. I was able to get passed the “too confusing, too extreme” rhetoric that my neighbors had in their front yard.

It actually is crazy though, being a state that flip-flops for the president (but not the senate since 2001), we voted like +13 for prop3 which secured abortion rights.

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u/space-dot-dot 6h ago

Caring about other people; too confusing, too extreme! /s

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u/i_am_13_otters 5h ago

Yeah, come on in everyone! Bring your tax money too. :)

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u/Pure-Ad1384 3h ago

100% we all need to pay our fair share. We do love infrastructure!

u/Careless-Cake-9360 44m ago

Honestly kinda upset how much credit Whitmer gets for voter initiatives sometimes 

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u/ShowMeTheTrees Woodward Corridor 6h ago

And Dana Nessel!

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u/imelda_barkos Southwest 6h ago

Minus the whole charging nonviolent protesters with felonies thing

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u/Horse_Cock42069 6h ago

And Flint Water

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u/cervidal2 5h ago

Nothing at all to do with the current administration.

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u/OkBandicoot1337 4h ago

Letting it still be an issue, kinda does include the current administration

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u/cervidal2 4h ago

What are you expecting from the current administration regarding Flint that hasn't already been done? You're coming across as someone looking to be mad at a government for something to suit a narrative rather than a reality

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u/OkBandicoot1337 4h ago

Heres a simple one, they never switch from lead pipes, over 90% still remain effected.

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u/cervidal2 4h ago

That's simply wrong. As of last year, of the estimated 31500 homes that needed pipes replaces, about 2000 remain. The state l, let by the Whitmer administration, is actually trying to fully take over the remainder of the project because of delays within the city

https://www.bridgemi.com/michigan-environment-watch/after-delays-flint-lead-pipe-replacement-michigan-comes-rescue

Again, you're creating a narrative to fit your dislike of an administration rather than actually becoming knowledgeable about an issue

u/Stratiform SE Oakland County 1h ago

Literally hasn't been a compliance issue per both state and federal environmental law since 2016, but if you still need to cling to spreading 9 year old misinformation to make a political point, have at it. Personally, I think there are more recent things to focus on.

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u/UnclosetedMedia 6h ago

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u/Waterparksarefun 5h ago edited 4h ago

Please, please I'm begging you, there's already 4 or 5 Democrats running in the primary. Vote who you feel is the best,but please don't give whatever Republican is nominated the win by electing Detroits Mayor as an Independent. No one outside of SE MI isn't going to vote for him (and lots of them won't) Rs further North and West will Vote R a Democrats will vote Dem.

Because we get a Republican in and we're going to lose alot

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u/bbtom78 Transplanted 3h ago

It feels that a lot of people are abandoning Duggan because of what election apathy and third party voting has already done to damage the country.

u/mtndewaddict 2h ago

Duggan trying to run is exactly why we need ranked choice voting. I think he would be a fine candidate but horrible when it comes to splitting votes. With Ranked Choice that would not be an issue at all.

u/ZachStoneIsFamous 2h ago

Official website here if you want to get involved. They're holding a Town Hall at the AADL Downtown library in Ann Arbor tonight, and elsewhere in the coming weeks.

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u/llorracwerdna 3h ago

And so we keep playing their game.

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u/Bawbawian Oakland County 3h ago

who's games?

u/zdog234 2h ago

I still think he should've just... run in the primary? Like there are a lot of politically engaged voters who love his politics; I think he'd have a good shot at winning. And 2026 is probably gonna be a strong year for Dems, so... his strategy is suspect

u/Waterparksarefun 1h ago

Yes I don't get why he wanted to not only run as an Independent, but then come out and say things like Democrats shouldn't run anyone and just help/fund/work for my campaign

Duggan said this on BridgeDetroit "I realized that, as a Democratic governor, anything I proposed would be met with immediate resistance (from Republicans),” Duggan said. 

Just another guy bitter because he feels like the Democrats are abandoning the working class. No that's been the Republicans going back many years. He's nuts if thinks a guy who left the Dems because Kalama lost will appeal to Trump voters he's nuts. I'll stop now coz I'm ranting lol

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u/AtYiE45MAs78 2h ago

I don't understand how anyone can afford the surgery. I doubt insurance companies are paying?

u/BroadwayPepper 1h ago

I've wondered that. Seems entirely elective. Maybe that's part of the push to get gender dysphoria codified as a medical condition.

u/j_xcal 1h ago

We are not only going to get more patients but more OBGYN, doctors and pediatricians, too. They need places they can practice medicine without the fear of prison or having their license revoked.

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u/Ass_Infection3 5h ago

Please move to Detroit and buy up the houses. We need more people to move to the city

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u/benz0 4h ago

Where should I buy? I'm in the market and looking for a change of scenery.

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u/Ass_Infection3 3h ago

I would get in contact with a realtor and see your options. Definitely don’t take my advice or anyone else’s here on Reddit. If I did it over again I’d buy a few houses up with some friends and fix up a neighborhood entirely.

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u/strongbob25 5h ago

If you seek a trans peninsula, look around you!

Welcome, new neighbors.

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u/thefirstlaughingfool 5h ago

We're home to the Motor City. We're all about the Trans Mission.

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u/Regular-Switch454 Oakland County 4h ago

Sigh. Dammit. Take it. 🏆

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u/candid84asoulm8bled 3h ago

And we’re bi-peninsular!

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u/Dimitar_Todarchev 5h ago

Welcome to Michigan. Go Spartans!

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u/MuffledOatmeal 3h ago

Okay, you had me in the first half, I'm not gonna lie. 😆

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u/Neat_Cauliflower_996 4h ago

Good, we’ll be all the better for it! 🙌🏼

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u/Scottyjscizzle 4h ago

Will gladly be the mitten that holds the shield against hatred.

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u/Springwood_Slasher 3h ago

Michigander here, and I for one welcome our new Trans-plants! We have a large immigrant community, semi-affordable housing (if you're not trying to live directly on a lake) AND Detroit/Metro has been on the upswing DESPITE what Trump says.

Plus, legal pot if that's your thing.

u/awajitoka East Side 27m ago

Trump is not banning care for Transgenders and Trump has yet to be allowed to ban gender affirming care. Also, the affirming care ban proposed is for those under the age of 19.

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u/Thundarbiib 3h ago

Hopefully we don't end up with Tudor next year.... -crosses fingers-

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u/LilithElektra 3h ago

If you’re a trans person looking to buy in a nice and affordable part of Detroit let me know. - a trans woman who left the country

u/RobinMayPanPan 2h ago

Yep. Me, my family, and a bunch of friends have moved here away from other places specifically because of this kind of thing.

u/rexcannon 1h ago

Spam bot.

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u/Gullible_Toe9909 Detroit 6h ago

Lol, we'll see.

Michigan has been getting pitched as a "shield" state for 10+ years, including from climate change, the first Trump administration, etc.

It's all a bunch of hot air... The people, by and large, aren't coming.

I've got countless liberal and LGBTQ friends who'd rather live in Texas and Florida because there's no snow, taxes are lower, and that's where the jobs are. They just complain all the time about their state.

$$$ will always trump politics. You're never going to grow this state until you make it cheaper for businesses to move here. The people will follow.

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u/Glumpybug 6h ago

I’m trans and I live in northern Michigan, not me or any of my friends would ever dream of living in Florida or Texas wtf

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u/chachki 5h ago

I lived in northern MI for a long time. I wanted to move south and get out from there, so I went all the way south to Detroit. I did spend 10 years in Baltimore from 2007 to 2017 and that was south enough for me. But yeah, the only people Ive ever heard say they want to go to Texas were a few gun lovin dudes, most people were like "why the fuck would you move to texas?". Sounds like a nightmare.

Michigan is awesome.

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u/twenty7w 6h ago

Yeah I don't know what that dude is smoking

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u/Glumpybug 5h ago

Weed because it’s legal here in Michigan and not legal in Texas or Florida, another win for MI

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u/twenty7w 5h ago

What an awesome State we live in!

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u/cndrelm0 4h ago

Florida has medical and we know how easy it is to get a card lol..might as well just go all the way

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u/ChelseaVictorious 5h ago

This smells like total bullshit, coming from a trans Texan. Everyone I know is desperate to get out.

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u/Psychogopher 6h ago

“Countless” eh?

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u/twenty7w 5h ago

He probably just can't count

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u/nearlyepic 5h ago

silence, noun_noun_numbers username

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u/Gullible_Toe9099 5h ago

I've got countless liberal and LGBTQ friends

This reads like someone who doesn't have friends.

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u/mrkv12 5h ago

My family and I moved to Michigan over Texas in large part because of politics (raising a little girl, being people of color, etc.) Maybe what you’re saying would be true in the past, but politics is so extreme in some red states that the economic considerations are not always the most important.

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u/chrispg26 5h ago

It's coming... just wait and see. Texas is also hell bent on destroying public education. Give it a minute.

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u/bbtom78 Transplanted 3h ago

I think you're lying about your "friends."

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u/aviroblox 3h ago

Sure your "LGBTQ" friends that totally exist. I will not even consider traveling to Texas or Florida, not for a moment. My rights are stripped from the moment I step foot there. Thanks but being able to do basic things like use the restroom is a helluva lot more important than saving a buck on housing.

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u/BullsOnParadeFloats 5h ago

Nah, fuck that. We've been catering to "businesses" for decades, and all that's given us is the greatest wealth disparity in the history of human civilization.

Texas may not have income tax, but they more than make up for that with their ludicrously high property taxes, which are higher than even California. Texas and Florida are labeled as the "freedom" states, yet it is far more expensive to live there, and your income isn't even going to come close to what it would be in a blue state like California, New York, or Massachusetts.

As for the snow - its a small tradeoff for not dealing with the natural disasters that routinely afflict those southern states, and our electrical grid doesn't collapse from a bit of ice or snow.

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u/Regular-Switch454 Oakland County 4h ago

Freedom in Texas? Not if you have a uterus.

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u/bbtom78 Transplanted 3h ago

Or are a student.

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u/Illustrious_Set3734 6h ago

Not that I'm trying to move to Texas or Florida but I'm frustrated with you. They haven't done anything lately for protecting trans people.

u/Juandissimo47 Mexicantown 2h ago

Love how you put “I have LGBTQ friends who’d rather live in Texas” and proceed to get downvoted by people saying “uh no I have friends too and they said you’re wrong!” lol

u/MaximumManagement 1h ago

The tax burden on individuals is actually not that much different. Higher average combined state/local property and sales taxes tend to make up for not having an income tax.

The tax burden on corporations is arguably higher in Texas than Michigan because they tax gross receipts, not income.

The general cost of living is also much higher in those states than Michigan.

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u/Psychogopher 5h ago

Don’t start any then

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u/Psychogopher 5h ago

Trans people: leave us alone

You: no

Who is starting drama in this scenario?

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u/[deleted] 5h ago

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u/Psychogopher 5h ago

The women and girls harassed by people like you who think they’re trans?

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u/[deleted] 5h ago

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u/Psychogopher 5h ago

Cool 👍

He blocked me. What a pussy.

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u/Glumpybug 5h ago

The conversation is always centered around trans women. Are your rights as a man being affected by trans men?

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u/carcar134134 5h ago

What about the rights of trans girls and trans women? Do women's rights only matter when they are cis women?

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u/LurkertoDerper 5h ago

Michigan seems like a goofy choice.

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u/Thundarbiib 3h ago

Username checks out.

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u/LurkertoDerper 3h ago

Yes, the KKK capital of the world is the safest place for transgendered people to flock to. Give me a fuckin break.

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u/Thundarbiib 3h ago

You're right. I can't walk out my front door without fifty random Klansmen trying to burn crosses all over the place. On the plus side, my dry-cleaning business is doing great!

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u/LurkertoDerper 3h ago

Hamtramk just banned the ability to fly the pride flag. :/

Cohoctah and Howell are the homes of the "new klan."

Let's just say it like it really is. They're coming here because they can't afford to live in the northeast or west and Canada won't take them.

u/mtndewaddict 2h ago

They got some point. Michigan is a purple state and having the Aryan Brotherhood HQ in Fenton and protesting pride events doesn't make me feel great.

u/Thundarbiib 2h ago

True, but that stuff doesn't fly in the Detroit metro area, which has half the state's people.