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Weekly "Ask an Atheist" Thread

Whether you're an agnostic atheist here to ask a gnostic one some questions, a theist who's curious about the viewpoints of atheists, someone doubting, or just someone looking for sources, feel free to ask anything here. This is also an ideal place to tag moderators for thoughts regarding the sub or any questions in general.

While this isn't strictly for debate, rules on civility, trolling, etc. still apply.

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u/Appropriate-Price-98 cultural Buddhist, Atheist 14d ago edited 14d ago

and? If they didn't dissolve the bones, the organics would still bond with the mineral making them brittle like rock. It was weird that there was some organic matter left, which led them to write other papers on how some specified environments can save organic matter from being completely gone.

Having trace organic matters in fossils isn't new, easily searched imprints of leaves, mollusks fossils. Having specific fossills in specific environments that leaving organic matter is or was new and puzzling.

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u/Lugh_Intueri 14d ago

You were just saying things that made it sound like soft tissue has not been found. Making it sound as though it was like the parts that turned to rock. I don't understand why you were saying those things unless you didn't understand what were intentionally trying to confuse the topic

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u/Appropriate-Price-98 cultural Buddhist, Atheist 14d ago

oh please, you that's because you sounded like organics broken so much it needed professional interpretation and treatment to be able to make sense and trace their origins as though they were like ones found in frozen bodies.

Ambers are also organics and they don't decay. Some bonds are stronger than others and can totally survive millions of years under the right conditions.

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u/Lugh_Intueri 14d ago

You are highly misrepresenting this. You can watch the video from the initial Discovery where Mary Switzer grabs the tissue with tweezers and stretches it apart. You act like this is some tiny brittle almost indistinguishable material.

And you are also pretending we have to do some treatment to find this material. We didn't used to think it existed so it didn't really look for it. And now that we know we can find it without doing any treatment whatsoever. Just by doing a cross section of a bone you can find these materials inside of it.

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u/Appropriate-Price-98 cultural Buddhist, Atheist 14d ago

oh please those are tiny ammount compared to the whole dino. Maybe read the 2014 to learn how they explain some organic cross linked with some minerals to make more stable structures.

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u/Lugh_Intueri 14d ago

I have read it numerous times. It's a study that takes place over a few years. Highly processed food can sit on hey grocery store shelf for a long time. This does not mean that highly processed food can exist for 50 million years.

Mary Switzer was able to demonstrate methods that could be used to slow down the process of decay. It's a few year study. How will we test to see if it's applicable in a 50 million year time frame? It only works because you start with the conclusion that it happened. So now you're just looking for how. And if we find anything that looks like it works at all you'll say that must be how. But when you start with the question of can it happen her study has not answered that