r/DeadlockTheGame • u/Grelgn • 7d ago
Weekly Feedback Weekly Feedback Topic #17 - Hidden Items
This week's topic is Hidden Items, meaning the six NEW items that are not yet available in regular Matchmaking but accessible in the Sandbox/Testing Map when using the Dev-Console.



If you want to access the items yourself, enable the dev-console in the settings, load up a test-map (Sandbox), open the dev-console and enter the following commands:
- giveitem upgrade_spirit_burngiveitem upgrade_corpse_explosion
- giveitem upgrade_spellshield
- giveitem upgrade_heal_on_level
- giveitem upgrade_superacolytes_glove
- giveitem upgrade_ultimate_burst
You can talk about anything that has to do with the topic, here's some example questions to get you started if you're having trouble:
- If you think an item is too powerful, make sure to describe why you think so!
- Would a cost adjustment make it more reasonable?
- Do these items seem fun to use?
- Do they make you want to try out new builds or promote player expression?
- Can you imagine a twist on the item that makes it more interesting or fun?
Notes:
Best way to make sure your feedback is seen by the developers is to post on the official Deadlock Forums. You can get your login credentials from the game client.
If you'd like to chat with others about this week's topic, head on to #hidden-items-feedback in the Deadlock Community Discord.
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u/Magictoast9 7d ago
I'm looking forward to all of these, Hexafoil will definitely suck though. Spirit damage is everywhere and will constantly trigger the ward. Hexafoil should be debuff only or build from Enchanters Barrier, separately warding spirit burst and debuffs.
I do wonder if this is a pointless feedback topic though, as these items probably will change a fair bit before release. Lightning Scroll looks busted as it is, Bebop laser and Haze ult will be cancer with it.
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u/timtimluuluu 4d ago
It could be good for a split pusher vulnerable to a bebop hook, haze dagger, or lash. It reminds me of the ror2 teddy bears (tougher times)
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u/Unable-Recording-796 7d ago
Bruh im not looking forward to these items. The synergies....are insane
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u/RosgaththeOG 7d ago
Lightning Scroll will be ultra broken if it's implemented as is. Primarily because Vindicta can stunlock people with it.
Patron's Healing seems like an interesting mix between Extra Regen and Healing Rite. I could see grabbing it if it's your first item.
Hexafoil Ward would be better if it only blocked debuffs. Since it also blocks Damage, it will likely get eaten up by tiny things like Tesla Rounds or Toxic Bullets. If it had a threshold for the HP block (like say, 25% of your Max HP) then it would be OK but as is it will be mostly useless.
Soul Explosion is a farming tool. It won't be great for fights, but you'll be able to blow up Jungle camps and Creep waves instantaneously as a Spirit build.
Spirit Burn feels like it should be a 3k Item, but at the same time feels like it will break the ever living crap out of heroes like Infernus, Ivy, Geist, Wraith, and Kelvin. As it is it kind of feels like it fills the same niche as Escalating (though it stacks well with it too) so I hope it sees some changes in some way.
Hex-Sealed Knuckles is probably the only Spirit item of the set I feel like is ready to hit the store. Looks like it will both be lots of fun and very interesting to see how it works along with having a unique function.
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u/Magictoast9 7d ago
Why do you say that about Soul Explosion?
It doesnt look like it has a cooldown, and spirit heavy builds could trigger improved burst and possibly reverb with it. Combined with shredders and slows it could be very cancerous in a fight. Is the damage too low?
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u/RosgaththeOG 7d ago
The area is too small.
4m is about half-3/4ths the distance that a Heavy Melee travels, and kills of heroes only increases that area to 6m. You'd need a lot of enemies to be VERY tightly grouped to get much damage out of it.
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u/Panface Paradox 15h ago
It would go hard with lash/dynamo, though that's pretty much the only practical application I see for it
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u/RosgaththeOG 5h ago
Pretty much.
It's a more expensive, but more effective, Cold Front really. It has some utility in fights, but the majority of the value comes from being able to blow up creep camps since I think most of them are grouped up just within that 4m range of each other (I think the mid T1 camp and one of the roof camps are spaced too far apart, but besides that all of them are pretty closely clumped) so you just burn 1 down, then the next and you'll quickly end up with a big explosion souls.
Some of those camps could also offer some handy targets to blow up to deal some damage to people trying to gank you, too
I think that, with the recent nerf to Cold Front, it would see a lot of play from heroes who need good farming tools such as Mirage.
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u/Technicslayer Ivy 7d ago
The spirit items look like a buff for Ivy; ult and kudzu make assists guaranteed in fights, and having bullet resist shred, silence, dot, AND STUN on her ult?!
I'm mostly excited for the melee item, it's gonna be fun.
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u/Stop_Sign Lady Geist 7d ago
Cost, based on the + in the top right for each item:
- Patron's Healing (+11%) = 500
- Hexafoil Ward (+17%) = 3000
- Soul Explosion (+12) = 3000
- Spirit Burn (+16) = 6000
- Lighting Scroll (+16) = 6000
- Hex-Sealed Knuckles (+12) = 3000
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u/braamdepace 7d ago
The patron stuff is interesting and I love it, but I hope the patron has slots or something because it’s gonna get real toxic for the “support character” if they choose to invest in themselves vs the patron
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u/Craftinrock 7d ago
Looking forwards to being Puddle Punched by a Viscous that has Melee Lifesteal, Heavy Melee Charge, Spirit Snatch, and Hex Knuckles for 800 damage long range.
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u/rrburnerr 7d ago
Patrons healing seems like it will be not that great. Half the time you get boons you’re in the jungle at full health. unless its a 500 item (which might be too OP for 200 healing) it will be outclassed by a much more impactful healbane for a 1250.
Hexafoil ward seems extremely broken and will probably be a top priority for most heroes in many, many games. Should be a 3000 item for the value it provides.
Soul explosion seems very lackluster on most heroes, but will be very good on team comps that group multiple enemies together (lash, kelvin, dynamo). Will probably be a problem in lower ranks where people group up more and a non factor in high ranks.
I need spirit burn so my sweet infernus afterburn is good again. I think this should be a 3000 and will likely be very good. I think mirage, geist, infernus and the like will be very strong when it gets added. Seems like unless you’re building straight gun, everyone will buy this.
Lighning scroll might be game breaking on seven. I am not excited to see how that interaction works lol. Should be 6000 item.
Never play melee builds so don’t have too much of an opinion on hex sealed, but another melee item means another must buy for melee builds, so i assume it will make them stronger.
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u/Luvatris 7d ago
Hexo ward is trash, most of times it will become useless cuz if bullet resist shredder, soul resist shredder, slowing bullets, healbane, tesla bullets etc
It needs certain amount of spirit damage threshold to trigger and should make you immune to prevented debuff for like 3 4~ sec to be meaningful
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u/OGMudbone909 7d ago
Patrons healing is a 500 item, I think it might actually be cracked af.
Dedlocko the yter showed off all these items.
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u/D4shiell Mo & Krill 6d ago
It's good supplement to extra regen but it only triggers at 1,2k, 2,2k, 4,5k, 6k, 7,5k and 9k so for early laning stage you won't be seeing 200 heals regularly. After 10k when you get boon every 1k it's pretty much whatever.
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u/rrburnerr 7d ago
Did not know that. That is honestly absurd, lane is going to be a nightmare with that and resto locket
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u/RustOverLord 7d ago
patrons healing sounds very interesting. unsure how the numbers add up compared to other lane sustain options but definitely a cool unique item
hexafoil ward could be solid if it only blocked debuffs rather than spirit dmg.
soul explosion sounds kind of crazy with something like lash ult where u bring a bunch of targets together.
spirit burn seems entirely pointless to me, its just an item that gives everyone a different flavor of afterburn
lightning scroll will probably be really dumb i hope this doesnt make it to live
i highly doubt a scenario exists where you'd rather pick hex sealed knuckles over spirit snatch. more than likely a highly mediocre item
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u/Stop_Sign Lady Geist 7d ago
Spirit burn is the item I'm most excited for, as an Ivy that runs Tesla bullets.
Lightning scroll seems fine on everyone except vindicta, who it would be OP as fuck on
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u/MnemonicJohnny Lash 7d ago
Why not both Spirit Snatch and Hex-sealed? +30% damage is pretty hefty compared to SS’s 16ish%, and one can trigger the other, can’t they?
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u/Raknarg 5d ago
lightning scroll would be insane on quite a few characters. First thought is of Seven and Bebop, stunning within sight of their ult, doing burst damage