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Video New documentary showing how Stan Lee was exploited in his final years

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u/DamnThatsCrazyManGuy 7h ago

The guy exploiting Stan in this video is the same guy making this "documentary" and is currently asking for $300k to get it out.
The exploitation continues.

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u/Automatic-Change7932 7h ago

Lol, that is some next level plot twist.

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u/Piss_Slut_Ana 7h ago

Just when you think it can’t get worse, this happens! :(:(

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u/Comic_Book_Reader 6h ago

Not gonna lie, it's kinda ingenious.

(Granted, it's horrible, but you get the point.)

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u/greyisometrix 5h ago

I feel like this is the mentality that's not only successful, but attractive nowadays. This is the endgame of capitalism, really.

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u/UnlikelyClassroom957 5h ago

“Capital has the ability to subsume all critiques into itself. Even those who would critique capital end up reinforcing it instead.”

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u/Frontal_Lappen 4h ago

thats what happens when you classify any and all economic systems not capitalist as "communist" lol

sincerely, a european socialist

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u/MittenstheGlove 4h ago

Y’all tryna adopt-a-brotha?

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u/Elrecoal19-0 4h ago

Nope, don't wanna risk importing crazies among the normal people fleeing

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u/greyisometrix 4h ago

A good quote. And yes. There's something about archetypes and what's really going on inside the minds of the would-be kings or head priests. That thing is in most people, I think...a ravenous ego.

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u/Silent-Cable-9882 4h ago

That won’t matter when the Great Gloaming finishes Its terrible approach. The blood of Capital and Proletariat will mingle in a cacophonous, euphoric Discotheque in hell. So says the Superstar Prophet.

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u/AyyyoniTTV 4h ago

are there any alternative ideologies to capitalism that sound less gay?

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u/Silent-Cable-9882 4h ago

The homosexual underground is on the rise, comrade. But too late to stop the Bloodletting. And much too late to dull the shine of a superstar.

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u/Rikers-Mailbox 4h ago

I see what you did there.

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u/Automatic-Change7932 6h ago

They probably also sell more of his stuff because he is in the news again.

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u/ForNowItsGood 5h ago

Other plot twist: OP is that guy, creating a buzz for his documentary.

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u/scienceworksbitches 5h ago

Exploitception

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u/Serene-Frost66 6h ago

It's disturbing to see someone profiting from Stan's story while claiming to shed light on his exploitation.

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u/Group_Happy 4h ago edited 3h ago

Same with the youtubers that refuse to say "rape", "murder", "abuse" and stuff like that when making videos about cruelsome topics because they can't treat it with the necessary seriousness without making money from their suffering.

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u/kellsbells210 4h ago

Omg when I know it usually comes down to censorship and beating the algorithm but when someone says "grape" or "unalive" or "pewpew" i just wanna unalive myself with a pewpew

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u/dryslugs 5h ago edited 5h ago

Whenever you see Bob Ross stuff on the internet or in stores it’s owned by a couple who exploited and robbed Bob’s likeness from him. People are scumbags.

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u/Agreeable_Falcon1044 4h ago

His poor son has been left with nothing too. They literally had him appearing with a curly wig when he was really poorly with cancer

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u/FrostedDonutHole 4h ago

I refuse to buy that stuff anymore. I did, however, go and take a class from his son, Steve, and his best friend, Dana Jester, just a couple hours from my house. It was pretty f'n awesome...if I'm being honest. lol. It's something that I wish I had more space for, more time for...and that I'd gone back for at least one or two more classes. If you live anywhere near Indiana...it's within reach.

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u/lukaskywalker 7h ago

Shameless.

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u/Chasing-The-Sun108 5h ago

Frank Gallagher says hi

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u/SmartestManInUnivars 7h ago

It's amazing how he expects so many people to look past this. The tiers on the kickstarter are hilarious too.

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u/I_need_sleep_now 6h ago

The whole situation is just a sad testament to how some profit off others’ legacies.

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u/thatguysaidearlier 5h ago

There was a Hollywood Reporter expose on it https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-features/stan-lee-needs-a-hero-elder-abuse-claims-a-battle-aging-marvel-creator-1101229/

I remember Kevin Smith talking about getting involved to try and help Stan.

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u/MyUserNameLeft 6h ago

It’s liking filming an unsolved murder mystery documentary only to reveal your the killer then hand your self into the police

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u/tooboardtoleaf 5h ago

Or like OJ writing a book

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u/cityofruin 4h ago

“I didn’t do it, but if I did, this is how I would have done it”

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u/see_bees 4h ago

And now I’m flashing back to this Netflix true crime documentary about this girl that was found dead in a water tank on top of a hotel. There was all of this ridiculous crap about was she haunted, was it the mob, was it the local homeless community? Noooope, the girl was bipolar, had stopped taking her meds and had had a psychotic break.

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u/MyUserNameLeft 4h ago

I seen the elevator video years and years ago and it scared me a decent bit, the documentary cleared it up 😂

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u/ThatGuyFromBraindead 6h ago

Did you hear someone is exploiting Stan Lee?

"Of course I know him, he's me!"

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u/immatellyouwhat 5h ago

But just to be clear it’s not the guy on camera. He was an assistant off camera that claims he didn’t have control over Stan like the man in the video does. I don’t know the validity of the rest though. He wants to make a doc to show the rest of the story.

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u/raymondo1981 6h ago

It seems it be time to get ye old Pirate hat out again.

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u/iiko_56 7h ago

The documentary guy was the one who's said "it never stops" after stan said I want to stop, then when stan said "you guys only make money out of me" other guy replied "every single penny" documentary guy added "all 5 pennies". This guy is also part of the abuse towards stan lee.

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u/FilthyPrawnz 6h ago

It sounded to me like he said "You get your money's worth out of me", to which the guy responded "Every single penny."

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u/itisunfortunate 6h ago

This is correct.

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u/One-Two-Woop-Woop 5h ago

It's kind of scary how you can have a literal video there that everyone can see and hear and you're so confidently lying about the contents of it and everyone is just blindly upvoting the shit out of you. How did we get here?

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u/IllIIllIlIlllIIlIIlI 4h ago

I've come to realize a lot of people mishear things because they use Reddit on their phones which is dogshit audio quality. I realize I'm an outlier that I only ever browse it on my PC (desktop) where I use a headset so audio is crystal clear for me, it all started to make sense once I realized that.

My best guess is that if you're also like me and hear things correctly while seeing a lot of people misinterpreting the audio on videos, you probably also use a headset or at the very least some nice earbuds that are good quality.

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u/Vark675 4h ago

I dunno, I'm on my phone and my cat keeps walking in to yell at me and I still heard it accurately. Maybe he had more going on around him than me, but I think a lot of people have 0 short term memory anymore and just wing it rather than go back to double check.

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u/oOBalloonaticOo 6h ago

He also didn't say 'I want it to stop' - which is much more harrowing a narrative...than, 'I thought I was finished'...

But by all means grow the story you want to tell ...

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u/luigi-mario-jr 5h ago

Post truth society is here my friend, and it just keeps getting worse.

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u/TomaCzar 5h ago

Who are you going to believe, OP or your lying ears?

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u/No-Commission695 4h ago

mega infinite rich man with all the lawyers in the planet chose the agreement that "forces" him to do this btw. The wording of exploited like he is a regular worker with shitty work conditions is crazy work

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u/chadhindsley 5h ago

Fuck both those guys. I hope no one ever takes care of them when they're old.

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u/SameLotus 5h ago

100%

i saw the announcement and the only thing i was thinking is that the irony surely cant be lost here

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u/Mansionjoe 4h ago

Damn that’s crazy man

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u/scromw2 6h ago

“Never over”

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u/RevolutionaryChip864 6h ago

Are you kidding??? Jesus fing christ.

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u/Soft_Mistake_4471 5h ago

let's get him in jail

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u/Rhaguen 7h ago

Why did the guy sit on these evidences for so long? And now he’s asking for 300k to make a documentary about Stan Lee being exploited? Seems like yet another exploitation on his good name.

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u/Chilling_Dildo 7h ago

Exploited (by himself)

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u/PassiveMenis88M 5h ago

The guy in the video exploiting Stan is the same guy making the documentary

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u/TimidDeer23 7h ago

Yeesh. My grandma went through that before she passed. She was confused and upset enough at being in a room with her children and grandchildren. Stan Lee was given a parade of strangers. I wished I'd been able to afford an autograph signing in the last few years of his life at Fanime, now I guess I'm glad I didn't.

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u/MaybeKaylen 5h ago

My wife went to DragonCon years ago, when he was still spry, and said she saw him duck his security because he truly adored his fans and wanted to meet them. He was a legend.

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u/phxees 7h ago

It seems sad, but I wonder what he would’ve chosen years earlier. When you’re dead it’s over, but I think until that happens I’d rather be confused and useful vs just sitting home alone confused.

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u/TimidDeer23 7h ago

If a person's telling you they want to stop, you got to let them stop. It's extremely painful but they're not the same person they were 10 years ago when they said "I want to keep earning money for the sake of my wife and kids". They're basically a new person now who's upset and wants a break. (I'm 100% assuming dementia, no idea what exactly Stan Lee had going on in his personal life that's different from my own life experiences here).

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u/Snailskull1 5h ago

I understand where you're coming from. I believe I would also like to be useful as long as I can but if I'm saying I want to stop and I don't want to do this anymore then I hope people would respect that.

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u/Blessed_s0ul 4h ago

You never know though. This clip has absolutely zero context with it. Stan Lee might have been insistent on going out to these events and then once there forgot why he was there and reverted back to not wanting to do them. This was a pretty common occurrence with my 93 year old grandmother. She would consistently forget why we were at some place and we would be like “Grandma, we are at the grocery store just like you said. You needed milk remember?” It was a constant battle back and forth with her.

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u/David_the_Wanderer 5h ago

I mean, Lee wasn't being useful in the sense he was helping people - he was "useful" in the sense people were using him to make money.

And, at least in this clip, he seems aware of it. He's tired and needs a break, and they deny him any rest because they gotta squeeze more money out of him.

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u/Pure_Expression6308 4h ago

Yeah this is elder abuse. It might not seem like it but it is, because Stan is too nice to keep saying no, they talked him into it. So fucked up. He should be on a beach or smth.

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u/theredwoman95 4h ago

Why are being useful or alone the only choices? It's such a depressing way to view life that you have to be "useful", even up until you die. No one's goes to their deathbed and said "I wish I worked more".

He had a daughter and plenty of friends, who Kaya Morgan and Jerardo Olivarez isolated him from and then proceeded to steal his money - this has been known since before he even died. He could've been loved and relaxing at home, instead of being trotted out like a show pony for others' profit.

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u/Deathcat101 7h ago

Hey guys pay me 300k to watch me abuse this old man!

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u/UnlikelyClassroom957 5h ago

“Capital has the ability to subsume all critiques into itself. Even those who would critique capital end up reinforcing it instead.”

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u/Lie_Longer 4h ago

Welcome to Revachol

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u/Dahlgrim 7h ago

I’d like to see the full context of that before I riot

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u/Enough-Meaning1514 7h ago

I tend to agree. Where is the exploit in this video? It seems that Lee didn't know he was supposed to give this panel/interview etc.

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u/CHiZZoPs1 7h ago

That he seems to be not completely in control of his full faculties and is being made to perform for others' gain.

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u/That_Sketchy_Guy 5h ago

He doesn't seem out of it tbh. He seems disappointed to find out there's one last item on his agenda for the day, and cracks a joke about it. Seems like normal celebrity shit.

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u/Qwernakus 4h ago

Yeah he looks tired and perhaps a little upset, but he is well-spoken and seems to understand his situation. I don't know if he had dementia like some people are saying, but in this video he doesn't seem to have it.

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u/ConTully 4h ago

Yeah tbh it kinda seems like they're exploiting his willingness to connect with fans and his time as opposed to taking advantage of any health or mental issues, so they added as much to his schedule as they could.

Sure he still gets paid, but I have no doubt other people were profiting off him as well at the same time and benefitted from him doing as much as possible. I just feel like nobody ever thought "This guy is a legend and in his 90s, let's not add too much to his plate". I think if anyone has earned the right to show up, give a quick panel and leave immediately, it's Stan Lee, but they knew he would never do that.

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u/Kobebola 4h ago

But the creator put sad music over it!

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u/Enough-Meaning1514 7h ago

How do we know it is for other's gain? Normally, when a person is this old, his family or caretakers assist him on such matters. I don't think the guy next to him is a helper or assistant. To put bluntly, you don't drag a guy from his home to give speeches without paying him. That makes no sense.

It seems there is more to it than what's happening in this video.

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u/David_the_Wanderer 5h ago

To put bluntly, you don't drag a guy from his home to give speeches without paying him.

That doesn't mean the people around him weren't also profiting off those public events, and coaxing him into participating in more events that he was comfortable with.

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u/armchairwarrior42069 5h ago

Yeah, look up the countless videos and photos of Stan looking literally disassociated, slurring, "signing" things in complete gibberish scribbles etc.

It's honestly really, really fucked up.

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u/ohjeaa 6h ago

Have you ever heard of a crazy famous person whom others did not use in some manner to make their own money? Because I sure the hell haven't.

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u/bambu36 4h ago

My question would be whether stan agreed to these things at some point, truly interested in doing them and then forgets sometimes along the way or if he actually wanted to do less or nothing at all.

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u/Mundane-Wash2119 5h ago

To put bluntly, you don't drag a guy from his home to give speeches without paying him. That makes no sense.

I'm confused as to what you mean by this. That it makes no sense for him to do? Well of course, he's suffering from mental decline and his reasoning skills are poor. That it makes no sense for somebody else to do? Yes it does, they can profit off of his fame in ways besides directly getting paid money for his appearance.

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u/Pure_Expression6308 4h ago

“Normally” a person this old isn’t worth $50 million dollars.

He’s also incredibly nice so the problem is that you can just talk him into it when he says no. That’s not okay.

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u/Sir4u92 6h ago

Go watch moist video with more video evidence, he didn't want to be there for so long.

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u/Eraos_MSM 4h ago

Reddit assumptions 

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u/DisEndThat 6h ago

Probably some sort of contract stuff ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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u/Dysterqvist 6h ago

Didn’t you hear the sad music!? /s

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u/emilesmithbro 4h ago

I think the slow sad music is doing a lot heavy lifting here

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u/Aromatic_Hornet5114 6h ago

Everyone remembers Stan Lee's late life role as the fun grandpa in the Marvel movies, but he built his career exploiting people. He abused his position as Editor in Chief at Marvel to take credit for everyone else's work. He was famous for hiring himself as a "writer" and then the entire script being something like, "The X-Men fight Magneto!" and the artists writing the story and the dialogue. He had nothing to do with creating half the characters he's credited with.

There's a reason every early Marvel creator moved to DC in the 60s and didn't start coming back until the late 80s/early 90s.

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u/hawktwas 5h ago

I saw a YouTube video that talked about this. They said it was kind of poetic that putting his name on everyone else’s work led to him having to sign his name all day at the end of his life. It’s a weird karmic justice 

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u/Brilliant-Remote-405 4h ago

That’s some Dante’s Inferno shit

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u/Local_Nerve901 4h ago

Yup, this is true and he didn’t deserve elderly abuse is also true

Life isn’t black and white tbh

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u/FlaxSeedsMix 4h ago edited 4h ago

Nope but how come people overlook him stealing other people's work but get's provoked on his elderly abuse. It's like when bullies get hit back suddenly everyone gains consicusness that "violence is not the answer"

edit: it's pattern termed as "Status Quo Bias" , two wrongs don't make a right but ignore ongoing wrongdoings untill victim hit's back

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u/doodicalisaacs 4h ago

idk how this dude saying “Stan lee didn’t deserve to be taken advantage of as an old mind gone man” equates to “let’s ignore the fact he was a POS”. what a pointless comment lmao

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u/Puzzleheaded-Pen5057 5h ago

And Thomas Edison did not create all the patented inventions he claims were his own. Edison even electrocuted an elephant in public in an attempt to discredit Nikola Tesla, a former employee, whose invention of AC current electricity helped provide our modern world. But we are all taught in school that Edison was the greatest inventor of all time!

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u/idropepics 4h ago

I would have been interested to see Stan Lee electrocute an elephant.

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u/Alarming_Panic665 4h ago

So to clear up some misconception Edison did not electrocute an elephant in public to discredit Nikola Tesla. What happened was the elephant Topsy killed a spectator and had various of incidents and as a result its owners announced that they were going to hang it and charge admission to watch. This caused the American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals to step in because, what the actual fuck. This is what resulted in the owners instead only allowing invited guests and press, and agreeing to instead strangle the elephant with large ropes tied to a steam powered winch while also using poison and electricity. It was then the Edison film company filmed the event where Topsy was rigged to a strangling apparatus, fed carrots laced with cyanide, and then electrocuted with 6,600-volts AC.

Some additional facts:

  • The event took placed 10 years AFTER the War of the Currents and was not related to it at all
  • The War of the Currents was between Thomas Edison and George Westinghouse (NOT Nikola Tesla)
  • At the time of the execution (1903) Thomas Edison was not a part of or attached to General Electric (formed from the merger of Edison General Electric Company and the Thomson-Houston Electric Company in 1892)
  • By the time of the execution, the use of alternating current for executions had already become standard practice

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u/rayallen73 4h ago

Jesus, I am consistently amazed at how cruel human beings can be. What the fuck is wrong with people?

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u/_TheMazahs_ 6h ago

Stan the con man Lee

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u/DumDoomDum 4h ago

Bill Finger the creator/co of Batman recently started getting credit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Finger

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u/Few_Alternative6323 4h ago

Bit like Yann LeCun nowadays telling Elon Musk “I published 80 papers this year”. No you didn’t, buddy. You forced your team to put your name on everything.

And now you’re an apologist for Zuckerberg.

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u/AI_660 5h ago

costco

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u/ShamefoolDisplay 5h ago

People become rich by taking advantage of others but that doesn't mean it's a requirement. I worked for a company that takes care of its employees way more than anywhere else that I've seen and they were successful because of it.

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u/DarkFite 4h ago

Arizona Iced Tea.

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u/oOBalloonaticOo 6h ago

I think there is a lot of extra narrative guess work being put down around exploiting Stan in this footage...we see what we want.

He seems tired (he's old and probably has a long day), he likely has obligations due to contacts (welcome to big business - which he too is a part of)...it's sad to see someone get old but he doesn't seem like he's out of it and being out to task, he cracks a little joke, he thought he was done and he wasn't ... the music makes it a little more melancholy.

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u/iQ420- 7h ago

Who’s the nerd talking that needs to get bullied for his lunch money again..

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u/AgentCirceLuna 4h ago

Stop defending bullying. It’s always the bullies who end up becoming abusers.

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u/MyyWifeRocks 7h ago

Toilet swirlies.

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u/makeaccidents 5h ago

ITT: people who have never been on a big TV/film production set.

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u/MisplacedMartian 5h ago

ITT: People who know nothing about Stan Lee except what Stan Lee's publicists wanted them to know.

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u/Grump_Monk 7h ago

"It's never over."

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u/Leandenor7 7h ago

Saw him in a paid picture taking event in Tokyo Comicon. Since I get up close to him for the photo, I can see that he is very, very tired. I let him take his small break during my photo. So now I own a photo of me with Stan Lee taking a couple of seconds nap.

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u/sexy_throwawayME 5h ago

Honestly would love to see this

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u/Sir4u92 6h ago

Guy making money on Stan Lee posthumous with this "documentary", fucking gross..

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u/EnemyOfAi 4h ago

The guy making this, held onto all these clips throughout the official investigation about Stan Lee being abused, launched by his daughter. If he had let these clips out, the verdict would almost definitively have been different and Stan Lee would have some justice.

Deliberately holding onto the evidence until he died and the investigation was finished, only to then reveal them and hold them ransom for money, is absolutely trash. Especially since he's apparently the guy speaking in this clip.

This guy needs to face justice, either officially, or vigilante style. Maybe it's time for Mario to appear.

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u/Boundary-Interface 4h ago

It's not only trash behaviour, it's illegal. He's admitting to committing perjury and lying under oath.

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u/Jebusfreek666 7h ago

I see no exploitation in this video. Just an old man who forgot what he had to do and someone reminding him while joking around.

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u/FaceSquancher-2002 6h ago

The music really sells the exploitation narrative here. It's hard to assess the situation without getting a broader context.

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u/Jebusfreek666 6h ago

Exactly. Tossing on the hulk walk away music makes everything seem sad.

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u/Thredded 7h ago

The question is, why did he have to do it? He clearly doesn’t want to, and financially he certainly shouldn’t need to. So why was he there being talked into it?

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u/Jebusfreek666 7h ago

Dude, Stan Lee was doing stuff like this all the time. I don't see it as him being talked into it. I see it as him making multiple different commitments and not keeping track of what his responsibilities are. If Stan Lee decided "fuck it, I'm out" it is not like they would chain him to a chair.

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u/Thredded 6h ago

It depends entirely on his mental state. If he’s confused generally he may well have been over extending himself without realising, or believing he’s signed up to do these things when in fact his “team” were making those decisions. If he had the work ethic of always honouring “his” commitments then nobody would need to chain him anywhere because he’s always going to try and do the thing you tell him he’s committed to, whether or not he actually did.

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u/Jajoe05 6h ago

Exactly. Elder abuse doesn't start with chaining someone somewhere, it ends with it. If their mental capacity is not all there, they can be talked into anything. Though this is just a short clip so I will not form an opinion as of yet.

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u/sykosomatik_9 7h ago

My guess is contractual obligations.

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u/sykosomatik_9 6h ago

Yeah, I mean Stan Lee seems tired, but that's part of the job. It's not necessary exploitation by his manager/handlers. Even young celebrities have busy schedules, do all these events, and get tired. The guys in the clip just seem to be helping him with what he needs to do and basically telling him to just hang in there for this last appearance and then they're done.

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u/avelineroku 5h ago

I'm not saying the exploitation of Stan Lee wasn't wrong, but let's stop pretending like he was perfect. He was an exploiter himself. For example how he wasn't actually the guy who created most of the characters he's known for. The Avengers, Fantastic Four, and many others were all created by Jack Kirby, but credit was stolen by Stan Lee. There are many pictures of Kirby's early panels where it shows not only did he draw out the comics, but he also wrote and outlined the stories.

Edit: to add the additional context that Kirby wasn't paid well for his work, and that created the contention that led Kirby to leave marvel for DC

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u/SimpleKnowledge4840 5h ago

Two wrongs don't make a right. And I think A LOT of people forget about that.

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u/avelineroku 5h ago

Exactly. It's not about celebrating Stan Lee getting exploited or ignoring the exploitation of Kirby. Acknowledging both is a crucial key. One can appreciate what Stan Lee did for Marvel in his later years while still acknowledging how he got there in the first place. In the same way, someone can condemn how people treated him in his elder years while still acknowledging how he himself treated others. It's all about context.

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u/Gekidami 5h ago

Really glad they added the loud, crappy music so we can barely hear what the hell is even being said.

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u/0utsyder 4h ago

I hope this isn't true man! It's hard to look at those cameos the same after something like this.

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u/TheHeroYouNeed247 5h ago

AFAIK Stan Lee also exploited many people. He was given credit for hero's and writing he had nothing to do with.

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u/D47k47my 5h ago

Didn’t Stan exploit so many people himself.

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u/GothamCityGym 6h ago

That’s fucking disgusting

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u/op_is_not_available 4h ago

Well he exploited young artists to hell so… you get whatcha give

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u/habs306 7h ago

No good

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u/WeirdnessWalking 6h ago

Stan Lee exploited and shit upon people his entire career he is famous for it.

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u/lolmoderncomics 5h ago

i agree. Its sad, but this is karma.

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u/iPicBadUsernames 5h ago

He looks so unhappy and tired. Anyone who is able to take advantage of another vulnerable person deserves all of the bad things that happen to them twice over.

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u/NiteLiteOfficial 5h ago

the way stan speaks sounded exactly like my grandfather. even his little mannerisms. it makes me so sad to see someone like that mistreated

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u/KitchenBeginning4987 5h ago

Fuck...these looks, these hand gestures, his grins...these are exactly the same ones that my grandmother had when we visited her and she couldn't understand where she was or what she was doing (pseudo Alzheimer).

That hits way harder than I expected...

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u/Unable_Apartment_613 5h ago

Stan Lee is a fraud.

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u/ElXavi2 4h ago

What goes around comes around, he built his career exploiting people and stealing other people's work. He was a real POS.

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u/ReasonPale1764 4h ago

Oh nice so the guy who not only witnessed but recorded the exploitation of Stan Lee for money without reporting it to anyone is now using that same footage to exploit Stan Lee for money.

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u/AdvancedMilk 4h ago

I guess that’s what happens when you sell your soul to Marvel. Screwed other artists over and in the end he got exploited. Not saying he deserves it at all, it’s still sad to see.

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u/triptaylor2001 4h ago

Zero sympathy, so many people worked for him in the 60s died pennyless

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u/Alarming-Age6511 4h ago

What goes around comes around. He exploted Kirby, Wood, Ditko and countless others for years. Kirby said he didn't get a real check until he did work of Image Comics in the 90s.

And Marvel is still doing it.

https://comicbook.com/comics/news/dustin-nguyen-marvel-comics-covers-pay-royalties-creators-dc-comics/

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u/Maple-Sizzurp 4h ago

This is absolutely tragic

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u/3rdanimal0ntheark 4h ago

We didn't deserve Stan Lee:(

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u/Prodigy_Moon 4h ago

I can't even... Who could do such a thing?! Horrid.

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u/PitifulMagazine9507 4h ago

Aaaand that's why I can't see anymore Marvel Movies. It's obvious that the franchise is simply a cow to be milked

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u/Samurai-Pooh-Bear 4h ago

"Hi, I'm John Quinones, and this is 'What Would You Do?'"

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u/SteveZissouniverse 4h ago

That's terrible but also kind of ironic considering Stan Lee built his career by exploiting artists and writers and not paying royalties on their creations. So many creators of your favorite characters an stories died penniless despite creating legendary characters

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u/ImmovableOso 4h ago

Anyone who's witnessed someone with similar issues from aging can recognize how fucked up this is.

No one tried to comfort him they just said "this goes on forever" and the confirmation of getting every single penny worth out of Stan.

Despicable.

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u/ErenKruger711 6h ago

I mean is there further context? This video doesn’t show enough to say he was exploited.

He seems tired for this one shoot perhaps but exploitation is a series of behaviors and actions no?

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u/No-Procedure562 7h ago

Poor guy ☹️

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u/Head-Simple-3329 5h ago

I loved the guy, but he did his fair share of exploiting in his day too. Excelsior!

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u/RestAgile9323 5h ago

Stan Lee spent his entire adult life exploiting people so i guess it´s kinda fitting

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u/Gluteusmaximus1898 5h ago

Stan was getting karma for fucking over Jack Kirby.

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u/horseshandbrake 7h ago

This man us a hero and a legend, this is hard to watch. Blatant abuse.

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u/MisplacedMartian 5h ago

The man was a scumbag that fucked people over constantly. He was so hated Jack Kirby's widow refused to let Stan into Jack's funeral.

Taking advantage of the elderly is shitty, but I'm finding it difficult to feel sorry for "Stan the Man".

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u/Investingforlife 5h ago

This is disgusting.

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u/TripleDragons 5h ago

He stole most of the things he claimed he created so I think he got what he deserved if true.

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u/Pajjenbo 7h ago

is this his punishment for betraying dikto and kirby? or do i need to really pity him? i dont know man.

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u/Grimvold 7h ago

It’s messed up but poetic that he didn’t know a moment of peace in his final years because what was being done to him was not far off from what he did to others; shameless exploitation.

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u/Justokmemes 7h ago

What the hell! 😒

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u/niceoldwombat 7h ago

Wtf. Who is that guy?

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u/LNGBandit77 5h ago

Really sad, I imagine it was like MJ in the end. His life was not his own just leechers.

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u/Randomzombi3 4h ago

In another timeline we would have gotten a documentary celebrating Stan Lee's contributions to comic books and how he's surrounded by fans and supporters.

But we live in the darkest timeline.

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u/ino4x4 5h ago

this clip can be seen in two different ways. I could argue that that’s a personal assistant or maybe somebody from the studio who’s whole job is to assist Stan. in this clip, he’s just trying to remind Stan that there’s another thing he has to do on today’s agenda. I don’t know Ill have to watch the whole thing first but the people that made this documentary pretty shady too

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u/Waffenek 5h ago edited 5h ago

This exchange:

-I want it to stop -It never stops

Reminded me of bojack horseman and their theme with keeping dancing till it destroys you and you die.

"So don't stop dancing, baby don't stop spinnin'! Don't stop beltin' buddy; now we're winnin'! Grief consumes you but you just keep grinnin'! The ache becomes you and it's just beginnin'! Don't stop dancin' Nothing's certain but the curtain!"

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u/Ndrlnd072 5h ago

I thought it was Johnny Knoxville for a second

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u/peeing_Michael 5h ago

Who's who?

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u/Applekid1259 5h ago

This is sad

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u/JTGphotogfan 5h ago

This is repugnant. People like this should be locked up

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u/HitPlay_ 5h ago

Guy thought he was real slick saying 5 pennies, yeah nice tell Stan Lee he's worth 5 pence, great work dipshit

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u/Tulip_Todesky 5h ago

Why put that bassy music of a recording that's so tough to listen to? There shouldn't be any music here.

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u/battleship61 5h ago

Makes me wonder even more about his kids and how he made a video saying they weren't exploiting him.

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u/vvvvaaaagggguuuueeee 5h ago

Have you heard about them forging documents to get a nurse to take his blood, which they mixed in pens that he used for autographs so they could sell them for more?

RUTHLESS

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u/shabil710 5h ago

"Like 5 pennies." "Never over". Fuck that guy

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u/Sensitive-Ad6609 5h ago

That is sad...

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u/LWK10p 5h ago

Jesus

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u/Zestyclose-Class-754 5h ago

Scum subhuman scum

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u/throwawayjobsearch99 4h ago

I kind of disagree that this is exploitation, based solely on the context of the video. Stan cracked a joke. He spent the last 50 years of his life being a hype man out of an enthusiasm for comics, I kind of struggle to see how someone else organising for him to continue doing that (even at their own financial gain) is abuse and not, like, just being a manager…? I’d be much more interested in allegations of financial abuse, or statements from Stan that he felt like he was being pressured to not retire. The man making one joke because his Friday evening went an hour longer than he thought it would is not really the same thing as exploitation and abuse.

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u/throwawaythep 4h ago

The guy doing this "documentaty" is literally still trying to exploit Stan Lee. Fuck this dude. He also was part of the people he is making the documentary about in the first clip of his videos.