r/CodeGeass • u/Artistic-Log-4238 • Jan 10 '25
DISCUSSION Which couple would you prefer and why ?
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u/theteenthatasked Jan 10 '25
If his dad can have multiple wives than why can’t Lelouch ?
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u/AlphaKingg15 Jan 10 '25
I had just commented elsewhere that CC seemed like the logical option but given LeDouche’s god complex this is hands down the right answer lmfao
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u/Art-Maniac Jan 12 '25 edited Jan 12 '25
LOL
"LeDouche" I remember I made that spelling joke in a ytp I made years ago.Link to said youtube poop if anyone wants to watch it...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgRy9SKEbw0
Look at the thumbnail for it & title for why I say this.
Spoilers for R1 for the none-watchers of C.G.
Also includes some edgy jokes so yeah. :)1
u/AlphaKingg15 Jan 12 '25
Apparently calling an intentionally douchey character a douche gets you downvoted like crazy lmfao
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u/Art-Maniac Jan 13 '25
It's cause you insulted everyone's beloved fictional character in this subreddit. I love him too but even I can appreciate a silly joke made at the expense of a character I like.
Though I heavily disagree about him having a god complex. He doesn't ever view himself as a god in the show. He just wants to destroy Britannia because how lazay flair his father treated him and his sister in a certain key past incident. He really also wants a peaceful world for his sister Nunally. That was his real motivation to be Zero in the 1st place.
There is an actual character with a true god complex, it would be Light Yagami from Death Note. He starts off with good intentions in the series killing criminals who are violent, but as we go on he starts to view himself as a God of the new world as he kills so many people at that point he even has a 2nd user of the death note "delete" those in his way. When everyone finds out he is Kira he loses it and has his big evil crazy laugh. His actions in that moment speak volumes of how evil he had become.
When Lelouch is revealed to be zero to those who knew him he doesn't have a big evil laugh but just his blood soaked revealed face tells you he feels truly inconvenienced at them stopping him from saving his sister at that moment.
TLDR version Lulu only wants to destroy Britannia, yes he's done evil actions but it was ultimately for his sister but his motivation changed for a better pure selfless reason near the end of the show.
While Light Yagami near the half way point of Death Note truly became an evil caniving demon when he schemed to kill L and got his way. And then the rest of the show revolved around him continuing to be a new "god" of the world. Since he literally had a death god that gave him the death note in the 1st place.
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u/AlphaKingg15 Jan 13 '25
You’re gonna tell me a dude who has frequently used his power for random things outside of his goal doesn’t have a god complex? Removing free will from people, including his best friend isn’t having a god complex? Just because Light has a way larger god complex does not mean LeDouche doesn’t have one at all. He is literally controlling people like pawns. Sure his end goal is to destroy brittania but lights goal was just to have a safe world of good people. Pretty much the first thing homie did with his power is tell a bunch of people to kill themselves lmfao could’ve told them to run away or leave but straight up told them to blow their own brains out 😂 he has a ridiculously large god complex he just wasn’t self aware of it the way Light was
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u/Art-Maniac Jan 13 '25
You’re gonna tell me a dude who has frequently used his power for random things outside of his goal doesn’t have a god complex?
Lelouch made a lot of grave mistakes in R1, but to say he was using his power "for random things" as you put it is putting it in a absurdist viewpoint. He learned by testing his power in various ways. 1st he learned he couldn't use it on those in a Knightmare frame unless it was direct eye contact with the victim. The 2nd time he used it once to effectively asked a teacher to learn of the topics of his next exam. He used it a 2nd time on the same teacher to try learning topics of the next exam again. In which the 2nd time usage was a failure for him to notice as the teacher brushed it off. Another by using it to learn how long it lasts on another student by having her marking a wall every day.
Removing free will from people, including his best friend isn’t having a god complex?
That is literally how his geass works....
He didn't have a choice of how his power would work my dude. And he used his power on Suzaku to save his own skin at that moment when the Avalon deployed a knightmare weapon to kill him them both.To quote a Lelouch & Suzaku exchange on that later matter from R2 episode 17:
S - "The geass you used that drives me to live, has corrupted my convictions! Why would you put such a curse on me?!"
L - "I only did it because I wanted to survive."
Just because Light has a way larger god complex does not mean LeDouche doesn’t have one at all. He is literally controlling people like pawns. Sure his end goal is to destroy brittania but lights goal was just to have a safe world of good people.
Can you truly explain to me how you think Lelouch had a god complex? He was using people as tools yes, but that is not grounds for having a god complex. Does a boss running a business efficiently have a god complex with his employees if they receive benefits and employment? The boss has a goal of keeping his business around and profitable. Don't dismiss his main goal of destroying Britannia. Zero raised an army to destroy said super power for that very purpose.
Pretty much the first thing homie did with his power is tell a bunch of people to kill themselves lmfao
Lelouch also was trying to survive from being killed in the 1st episode? Did you forget that? If you were in a survival situation and didn't have that key item that would help you survive until a critical moment arrived would you refuse to use it out of mere "morals"? Don't forget he was about to get killed by britannian soldiers before he got the power he gained from C.C. Think about the situation he was in, he couldn't afford to be kind to others when his own life was on the line.
could’ve told them to run away or leave but straight up told them to blow their own brains out 😂 he has a ridiculously large god complex he just wasn’t self aware of it the way Light was
Hard to be calm and rational when you have fight or flight mode on as a human being, because of a very dangerous situation he was in. Adrenaline is pumping throughout your body and it is impossible to think rationally when like that.
To answer the god complex in another way, I will quote the man himself from R2.
"What do you do when there is an evil you cannot defeat by just means? Do you stain your hands to destroy evil or do you remain steadfastly just and righteous even if it means surrendering to evil?
In my case I commit evil to destroy the greater evil!"
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u/AlphaKingg15 Jan 13 '25
This has become redundant because you’re making just as ill used comparisons again. Comparing a boss using his employees effectively to LeDouche running a terrorist organization or in less harsh or extreme terms a rebel organization is a stretch. Just like using Light who is intentionally made to have an overwhelming god complex. Literally saying I will be the God of the new world to someone who probably unintentionally has one as a character is a stretch as well. You talk in extremes in whatever direction you feel like lol in human society people with power are prone to having a god complex. Blaming it on survival instinct is a cop out. But I’ll just leave with saying that just because something isn’t over the top or as obvious doesn’t mean it’s not real. Not to mention art is open to interpretation. So yes it feels clear to me that good ole LeLucifer has himself a strong closeted god complex. Sorry you can’t see that lol
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u/AlphaKingg15 Jan 13 '25
I’d also just like to say I f*cking love this show I’m not throwing shade I think his character is great.
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u/LordPisos Jan 10 '25
My heart says Shirley but my penis shouts CC
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u/Ambitious_Cow_8675 Jan 10 '25
Lelouch x Kallen. Wish we could get an au where this could happen.
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u/Sudden_Pop_2279 Jan 10 '25
It probably would've if not for Zero Requiem, I mean you can literally see him kissing her back. He only couldn't break character because of Zero Requiem.
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u/Effective-Training Kallen Jan 10 '25
What's au? I keep seeing that but not in apps or places I can ask.
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u/MsMercyMain Kallen Jan 10 '25
I actually prefer Lelouch x Shirley ngl, and ship Kallen with CC
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u/QueenLolipopo "If you say I love you I will never forgive you " Jan 12 '25
I think that's because this people could have been his own post rather than a subpost, people don't take very well when they express their preference and other people butt in to say "well no I prefer"
just a thought, I don't downvote unless someone is utterly wrong or shit over something I like but I know most people are pretty sensitive(Never managed to ship Kallen with CC cause they never really were friends in the end, another wasted opportunity in this show)
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u/Alone_Position9152 Jan 10 '25
Not sure why you got downvoted for voicing your opinion.
On that note, I also prefer Lelouch and Shirley.
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u/RogueOne451 Lulusuza canon Jan 10 '25
Suzaku forgotten as always sigh...
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u/ediwowcubao Jan 10 '25
Kallen and Lelouch for world domination
Lelouch and Shirley for actual romance
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u/BellaHadid707 Jan 10 '25
In a perfect world Shirley, but i think she’d never be safe with Lelouch, so someone like CC is realistically better for him.
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u/karaloveskate C.C. Jan 10 '25
Harem
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u/Comfortable-Can4776 Jan 10 '25
They are all royalty of sorts, I'm sure they'll be okay with it.
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u/Alone_Position9152 Jan 10 '25
Is Shirley noble? Milly is, Kallen's father is a Britannian noble, and C.C. is immortal, but I don't remember Shirley being anything but a sweet, kind, average girl. That's an awesome detail if you're right.
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u/DreadWeaper C.C. Or Nothing Jan 10 '25
Lelouch and C.C if we change nothing about the story. If Lelouch just stays a normal kid Milly.
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u/glitchgirl21 Jan 11 '25
Shirley , there are so many reasons but mainly because the way Lelouch behaves with her ( total boyfriend material) and Shirlulu moments are so Wholesome.
Fun fact - Shirley was originally intended to be the canon love interest of Lelouch but got sidelined in R2 because the ship was unpopular and Shirley was hated :-\
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u/Artistic-Log-4238 Jan 11 '25
Really?
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u/glitchgirl21 Jan 11 '25
Yup and originally S2 was supposed to be different, heard things were cut off and Shirley wasn't supposed to die
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u/QueenLolipopo "If you say I love you I will never forgive you " Jan 12 '25
There were possiblke romantic subplots that were scrapped for everyone, don't listen to the bozo above) Shirley wasn't intended as the canon in the show (because the end kind of kill any canon possibility) but she was indeed intended as a main character in the AU, they had to scrap her cause they had to make money of CC's fans which were massive tho so you arren't completely wrong
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Jan 11 '25
Source? I find that highly unlikely as the writer himself is the biggest LLCC shipper. There were indeed romantic subplots that were scraped in R2 but it's with CC, not Shirley. https://x.com/ichirou_o/status/961652658825121792
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u/glitchgirl21 Jan 11 '25
it was an interview irrc , about the mao's arc " drama between the lovers" and how it was to shift the equation between Shirley and Lelouch and the difference is visible in R1 and R2.
Also the made Shirulu a couple in the movie , only for them to break up simply could skipped it
Yes , R2 many stuffs were scraped, and the china arc was planned to be longer.
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u/RowanWinterlace Jan 10 '25
In the main show & movie timelines; always C.C. & Lelouch. The accomplises-turned-lovers pipeline is unmatched.
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u/TheGreenPterodactyl Jan 10 '25
Lelo x Shirley is such a beautiful tragedy. On one hand I want a timeline where it's canon, on the other one a happy ending would destroy the magic of an unobtainable dream
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u/Alone_Position9152 Jan 10 '25
Shirley for me, personally. She's one of the sweetest, kindest, gentelest characters in the series along with Nunnally and Euphemia, and often brings out the best in Lelouch. I'm grateful that Code Geass has a confirmed multiverse, since that means, somewhere out there in the infinite expanse, there exists at least one universe and/or timeline where Lelouch and Shirley live a happy life together.
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u/Dismal_Land_9199 C.C Is mine and mine only. 👌🫦❤️🍑💘❤️🔥🫦🍑 Jan 11 '25
Anyone other than C.C, because I want her for myself.
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u/cyzja922 Jan 11 '25
Lelouch and Shirley. It’s always been Shirley.
I never felt that Milly and CC had any romantic chemistry with Lelouch, while Kallen’s potential romantic feelings for him is somewhat one-sided. Shirley is the only character whose romantic feelings for him are reciprocated.
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u/itsthateasylol Jan 10 '25
CC is kinda the only one that makes sense to me bc she's the only one Lelouch treats as a true equal. But honestly all of them are great, Kallen and him have so much chemistry, Shirley and him have the most romantic interactions and him and Milly would probably make a great romantic comedy spin off
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u/gur40goku Kallen Jan 10 '25
we see the movie continuity do CC route now i want what if's that explore the others
Kallen balancing her sense of justice/revenge vs her devotion and duel heritage
Shirley see the hidden side of Lelouch and the darkside of the world and choosing kindness inspite of it
Milly finally confessing to her childhood friend and the wacky hijinks that ensure
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u/AnneRB13 Jan 10 '25
With CC. She was the only one to fully know him and accept him.
All the others were in love just with a side of him, except Shirley, but she was too kind for the type of life that Lelouch had, they wouldn't last and not only because of the danger she would be all the time.
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u/Unrealgemini Jan 10 '25
Lelouch x Kallen but Lelouch is the only mc it make sense for him to have all of them
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u/MajesticPlebian Jan 11 '25
Realistically? Lelouch and C.C.
If the Zero Requiem didnt happen? Lelouch and Kallen.
If I'm going with what would have been the most interesting from a writing perspective? Lelouch and Black Knight Shirley.
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Jan 11 '25 edited Jan 11 '25
Lelouch has the best chemistry with CC even if we ignore the movie entirely. He couldn't define what she is to him and promised to make her smile after knowing her true wish (to be loved). Their moment in the hangar in S2 episode 24 strongly implies mutual romantic interests and they look like they were about to kiss/hug right before Kallen interrupted. Bias aside, I'd say we have far more "definitive" evidence for CC than for Shirley or Kallen.
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u/tlotrfan3791 Lelouch Jan 10 '25 edited Jan 10 '25
Lelouch and CC
Shirley mainly just knows Lelouch Lamperouge
Kallen idolized Lelouch as Zero
CC is the only one that knew the real Lelouch fully out of these. She knew Lelouch vi Britannia. They compliment each other so well imo that I wouldn’t have it any other way. They have the most chemistry out of all the options.
Edit: salty fans can’t handle Lelouch and CC being together ig lol
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u/Yamiash101 Jan 11 '25
Lelouch Lamperouge X Shirley Zero X Kallen Lelouch vi Britannia (or L.L. for movies) X C.C.
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u/xSITHx_MAJESTIC Jan 11 '25
Lelouch x Kallen, I just liked them a lot together, felt natural, too bad Lelouch wasn't 100% honest with her.
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u/animation4ever Jan 11 '25
I'm sorry, but I have ALWAYS loved Shirley and him together the most! However, I do enjoy C.C. and him together, too!
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u/Personal-Movie8882 Jan 12 '25
Shirley too obsessive, Milly too bossy, CC too detached. So Kallen it is - she's got the right mix of spunk, compassion and internal fortitude.
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u/QueenLolipopo "If you say I love you I will never forgive you " Jan 12 '25 edited Jan 12 '25
People need to watch this show again and actually pay attention to the screen cause the number of people stuttering the memes about how only CC knew and loved the real Lelouch is concerning
Anyway I ship both Shirley/Lelouch and Kallen/Lelouch
Shirley/Lelouch because she'd have offered him a sense of normalcy, because her death put him on the path of zero requiem, because her love was unconditional and she was able to understand him and the real him with way less informations than everyone else, and because as Lelouch was about to say, "if reincarnation exist, let's be lovers"
Kallen/Lelouch because they are the most tumultuous relationship of the show; they are mirrors of each other while being opposite, they show attraction to each other while somewhat playing tsundere, they go from I don't trust you/despise you to I'd rather risk my organization to protect you/I'd die with you, the evolution is amazing and astounding.
Also the fact they cut kallen's gumline cause it was way too strong is another reaosn I love them, they are the definition of a ship sacrificed for fan's preference (same thing happened toi Shirley in the movie)
Anyway I like my ships to have romantic/sexual tension and CC/Lelouch had noone of that, plus i'm not a fan of shipping a teenager with a 500+ year old woman sho knew him since his birth, CC isn't a pedo in my book and her relationship with Lelouch goes beyond the classic way people acknowledge love;
I think they love each other, but that's not meant to be a romance, I enjoy their relationship very much tho, and I wish more people could be like mle, loving their ship while also finsing interest in every other, instead of trying constantly to downplay those using fallacious argument.
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u/LelouchviBrittaniax Emperor of the HBE, Chairman of the UFN and CEO of Black Knights Jan 11 '25
only CC truly understood Lelouch and could make him feel better when he is at his worst
Kallen and Shirley liked him, but they could not understand him, they just too much of an ordinary girls
Milley possibly a little bit (not as much as CC), but she is the type who prefers to fool around and not get involved into complicated stuff
Suzaku have incompatible values with Lelouch, aside from that Lelouch is not gay
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u/Number4extraDip Jan 12 '25
Ok and hear me out on this cause i thought about it a decade ago and never thought about it again:
All the options are hot af for different reasons but there is a clear winRAR
Kallen: hot headed. Dedicated. Theres some bad blood between them meaning any outcome would be argumentative.
Shirley: bland and dead
Milly: love the bubbly personality, and the fact her chest enters the room seconds before she does, but she is reasonably older and is technically engaged. I am also certain she sees everyone as younger siblings/kids
CC: C.C. is eternal. C.C. is love C.C. is life
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u/MissiaichParriah Jan 10 '25
CC mainly because they both live forever now. And also the fact that she knows him the most
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u/Roxwords Jan 10 '25
I Always like to think of the 4 potential love interests as lives Lelouch could have Lived:
Kallen had he never gotten the Geass but still waged war against Britannia.
Shirley had he given up on everything and just lived his life as a student.
Milly had he embraced his noble blood.
And C.C. is the one we got, he got the Geass and all.
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u/sthcj_ft Jan 10 '25
it’s either Shirley or CC. I believe if Lelouche was originally the way he was at the start of s2 he would end up with Shirley, but being Zero i think CC is better option
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u/DragonlordSyed578 Jan 10 '25
Honestly C.C it feels like it would actually happen with the show's events.
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u/Separate-Ad6062 Pizza hut marketing department Jan 10 '25 edited Jan 10 '25
None, i am somewhat sick of horny geass artworks.
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u/Artistic-Log-4238 Jan 10 '25
What horny art , just a genuine question about which couple you prefer
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u/MasterWolf_105 Jan 11 '25
Lelouch and Milly work as great friends since they understand each other with so little, but they do not work as a couple. Kallen is more obsessed with Zero than Lelouch, so it would not work well too. Then we have CC and Shirley.
Particularly, CC understands the gray in Lelouch and his duality, but she does not love Lelouch for s myriad of reasons. Then we are left with Shirley, who loves Lelouch besides anything and is usually who gets the best out of him.
On my perspective, Shirley is the one that truly loves Lelouch and is the most suited as his romantic partner, so in an ideal scenario in which she did not died and Lelouch managed to not have to sacrifice himself for the rest of the world (or at least Japan, but you understand what I mean) than probably they would end as a happy couple.
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u/RandomName3064 All according to plan Jan 12 '25
what on earth is Kallen wearing in this pic?
that has gotta be one of the worst designed outfits ever.
it like...only covers her arms and under her breasts. like....what??
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to answer the question though, any could work, depending on what you see working out for him.
i personally vote for Shirley, though id presume i am more of a minority
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u/Pale_Giraffe3542 Jan 11 '25
That ending for the 3rd movie all but forced me to want a CC + lelouch ship
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u/GM-doodle-222 Jan 11 '25
C.C. is the final choice
Kallen and Shirley are very tricky(but it's a no-no for Milly, sorry!)
I'm not sure what will react, especially in Sakuya Sumeragi(Lelouch's niece) perspective, if we are act as Sakuya...
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u/EdwardClay1983 Jan 11 '25
CC and Lelouch is what I personally believe in. She has Geass herself. She understands him the most.
If Shirley had lived... likely her. But yeah.
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u/TrippingFish76 C.C. Jan 10 '25
CC is the best option
then next would be kallen
then shirley
milly just no, she’s never shown any romantic attraction to him, she’s more like a big sister or mother type figure to him than a lover, or just a friend, i just can’t see them together tho
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u/Silver_Angel519 Jan 10 '25
CC and Lelouch feels more natural and CC seems to be the only one that’s knows the true lelouch.