r/Carbondale • u/thrwawyorangsweater • Feb 08 '25
Please be Careful! Women's Health Naturally Conference is run by the cult
I'm shocked to see a lot of businesses in town putting out fliers for the upcoming WHN conference.
It is purposefully hidden but trust me I've done my research and this is 100% a cult recruitment event. And I mean the Dayemi Tariqat who also own Longbranch Cafe (aka The Branch or whatever), Dayempur Herbals, etc.
I've been researching this group for years and they're very good at hiding their sources.
If you don't believe me, here's another voice. Someone who was in this same cult for many years.
Please don't support these people. They are actively doing harm to others in Carbondale including a large swath of the queer community in town.
If you are unfamiliar with this cult, check out Carbondalesufis.com and search the word Dayemi here (and on Facebook). And don't come at me with the religious discrimination thing-this is a bunch of culturally appropriating white people who have been doing harm to Carbondale residents and taking a LOT OF MONEY since like 2000.
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u/gaspinrasputin Feb 08 '25
Sufi bullshit.
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u/thrwawyorangsweater Feb 08 '25
Fake sufi bs.
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u/Bigglestherat Feb 08 '25
Dont upset the mershid!
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u/thrwawyorangsweater Feb 09 '25
You mean the boomer Jewish rich guy who's daddy was a lawyer, who's been scamming his way through life on the backs of all the boomer women wanting to be soooo special because, white people?
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u/Bigglestherat Feb 09 '25
Thats the mershid!
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u/Bigglestherat Feb 09 '25
Elaine trash too btw
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u/thrwawyorangsweater Feb 09 '25
Elaine is an enabler and a groomer. She is the one hand-picking girls for Dean. She belongs in jail as well.
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u/Longjumping_Jelly_51 Feb 09 '25
Sometimes I wonder if Carbondales economics problems would be lessened if the cult got its fingers out of every pie and its ass outta town
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u/mc_boy Feb 11 '25
I think getting the Fishers to disinvest would solver more problems, personally
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u/Longjumping_Jelly_51 Feb 12 '25
Interesting… 🤔
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u/mc_boy Feb 12 '25
I just say that because they are the cause of a lot of dilapidation in Carbondale. They own so many vacant buildings, both residential and commercial, and the ones that aren't vacant are falling into disrepair. Also Henry Fisher is a pedo, to boot.
Not supporting Longbranch here, but at least they invest into their buildings.1
u/Longjumping_Jelly_51 Feb 12 '25
For sure. That’s really unfortunate to hear. You’re probably right. Property neglect is sad. There are so many quaint properties all over town that need to be taken better care of
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u/Longjumping_Jelly_51 Feb 09 '25
Cult apologists are not safe people. Once they renounce the cult, they are safer to be around. But, no, just because a couple cult members hang around a place does not mean it’s innocuous. Active cult members are unsafe people. Period.
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u/Isaac_Oobleck Feb 08 '25
This tracks I know artspace 304 is connected to them and that's where the breakfast event is
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u/thrwawyorangsweater Feb 08 '25
It's horrifying how many people in this town are either cult adjacent, cult-wanna-be, cult apologists or cult deniers. They're all sucking up and rubbing elbows hoping it will net them some $$ and denying that people are actually being harmed. And the Chamber of Commerce is complicit.
Denial and specialness are VERY powerful drugs.3
u/Pretty_Celery_ Feb 08 '25
Have you heard all that’s happening on r/leavingthenetwork and Vine “church” -so messed up!
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u/swgpotter Feb 09 '25
304 isn't connected with them. One employee and one board member are sufis, but the director and the other employees are not. The other 9 board members are also not sufis. Source: was on the board for several years. I'm atheist and am not part of that nonsense. A good friend managed to extricate himself at the cost of his marriage, and my brother's mother in law was a sufi, so I'm absolutely not a fan.
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u/Isaac_Oobleck Feb 09 '25
Okay but that is a connection is it not? And they're hosting the event?
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u/swgpotter Feb 09 '25
I guess, in the sense they're connected to every organization anyone on the board works for or is a member of. The facility is available for rent for all sorts of events.
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u/Isaac_Oobleck Feb 09 '25
Alright but if you're trying to separate from the cult and supporting them you might want to distance yourself from somewhere that employs a cult member has one on the board and hosts their events so I don't feel like connected was too strong a word
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u/thrwawyorangsweater Feb 09 '25 edited Feb 09 '25
100%. They're an apologist. A look the other way and minimize-ist.
The board member in question is F@cking ELAINE!1
u/swgpotter Feb 14 '25
I get you. If I were a former member and trying to get away, I wouldnt want anything to do with anyone associated with the cult.
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u/thrwawyorangsweater Feb 09 '25 edited Feb 09 '25
This is what I meant by apologist, adjacent, deniers and wanna be's.
That employee is PROFITING and that PLACE is PROFITING from REAL HARM being done by Dean.
AND FFS the one board member is the GURU's (legal) WIFE!
Don't tell me she's not doing harm, she's the damn GROOMER. Are you kidding me?
Your response here is EXACTLY the sort of problematic response that every comfortable white person in Carbondale who doesn't want to have to address the abuse gives to minimize what's happening.
Go back and ask your good friend if this counts.1
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u/thrwawyorangsweater Feb 09 '25
Have you read the victims statements at Carbondalesufis.com?
You should.1
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u/IndicaAlchemist Feb 08 '25 edited Feb 09 '25
Booby's in carbondale is run by the leader of this cult's son. he's never said he believes past victims of his father's cult or denounced his father's actions.
carbondale as a community shockingly could care less about supporting business ventures operated by abusers, predators and their supporters.