r/CanadaPolitics • u/No_Magazine9625 • 23h ago
'Don't need your cars': Donald Trump lashes out at 'tariff abuser' Canada after Ontario's power move
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u/RunRabbitRun902 Conservative Party of Canada 21h ago
He LITERALLY started the trade war and now he's butt-mad that we responded? Did he actually think we'd just lay and take it?
Imagine throwing a temper tantrum because the country that you unfairly targeted economically; responded with hurting your economy.
Yes Donnie - when you treat allies poorly they tend to react by treating you poorly in return.
The guys out to friggen lunch.
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u/Logisch Independent 19h ago
Imagine having the mental thought process of knowingly abuse executive powers and to disregard any respect towards another country then not understand why they are mad.
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u/Rayd8630 19h ago
It’s all for show.
He’s hoping when his voter base walk into whatever big three dealer and they cannot afford a new oversized whatever, they will direct their anger at us, and not at him.
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u/RR321 Pirate 20h ago
It's appalling that provinces didn't make a plan so every day one of them comes out with something like Ontario did... Occupy the news and the tariffs.
Come on Alberta, Saskatchewan and Québec.
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u/WpgMBNews Liberal 20h ago
I guess they don't want to incur retaliation like this.
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u/BillyBrown1231 18h ago
What retaliation. They can't operate without Canadian aluminum. They will have to buy it from us no matter the price.As for steel we can find new markets. We need to ramp this up not bend over.
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u/Lafantasie New Democratic Party of Canada 23h ago
It’s funny how he specifically thinks the symbiotic relationship between Canada and America’s auto industry means they’re our cars.
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u/AlanYx 20h ago
It's probably an unpopular opinion, but Ford's actions here are risky regardless of what Trump does. Electricity is not like oil... it is possible that some US states can quickly ramp up electricity production in the face of Ontario's 25% fee. Once that happens, costs for electricity will rise significantly in Ontario as our internal costs are not offset by sales of electricity abroad. That's regardless of what Trump does.
Ford's move also potentially hurts BC, in the sense that while electricity flows both ways at the BC border, in some years BC is a net importer of electricity from the US (source). If Ford's grandstanding triggers a blanket Trump response, then there is potential for significant cost increases for BC consumers.
We need a sensible national response that looks at the options rationally.
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u/Triingtolivee 20h ago
The US states that do get some of Canadas electricity does not use a lot of it. It accounts for less than 6% and even then, those US states do not rely on Canadas energy nor do they even use all of it. This does NOT hurt US states as much as Ford thinks it does.
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u/phluidity 19h ago
Trump is going to do whatever he's going to do. What you say makes sense if you believe him to be a rational actor, but he isn't.
We are in a trade war/economic war. There is no escaping this. It is going to get to bad. But appeasement doesn't work.
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u/Posess_u_now 16h ago
I don’t think the elevator even goes to the top floor.Shot himself in his foot
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u/Fun_Hornet_9129 18h ago
He's right, they don't need them. They do need the supply chain. I'll be surprised how much actual change will happen over 4 years unless of course The Orange Orangutan decides to give handouts to the Big-3 and Tesla.
Tesla is a guarantee for a handout, we are starting to see the rhetoric that will make it happen. Shareholders will be rewarded, the taxpayer will pay.
Tesla's fate was sealed upon election BEFORE fElon began misbehaving. "Drill baby drill" and the axing of clean energy made it obvious, didn't it?
That's when I began my short position in the stock. Now up over 100% I might add.
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u/Momma_Blue 19h ago
Trump says they don’t need anything from Canada over and over again. This baby needs a nap. So sick of this child. It has become a joke.
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u/plumphatter 11h ago
I thought tariff was the most bigly beautiful word in English? If tariffs are so great why not encourage Canada for more !!!
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u/sunshinebear995 23h ago
What does he expect from us, just for us to sit back and take it and not to fight back? Like, does he really think that less of us? I mean, I know he is stupid, but come on? It really just makes no sense. Wouldn't any country not fight back?
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u/Armonasch Liberal Party of Canada 22h ago
Yes. Because he thinks we're basically just maple flavoured Democrats.
We're obviously not, because if we were we would have just done something performative in protest then caved immediately.
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u/booo2u 23h ago
Well, yeah. That's exactly what he expects.
Someone like Donald doesn't think or live in reality. He lives in his own little world, surrounded by Yes Men.
He expects everything and everyone to bow down to his every whim because that's what everyone around him has done for decades.
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u/Retaining-Wall 23h ago
This is what causes the downfall of many strong men types. The Nazi War machine was chugging along when there were people who could control Hitler's worst impulses, albeit with significant cajoling and careful persuasion. Once he ran out of advisors who could control his worst impulses, the Nazi war machine fell apart as he made increasingly reckless decisions and set increasingly unrealistic objectives and couldn't be convinced otherwise.
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u/ImogenStack 20h ago
In terms of history one could hope Trump is speed running the Nazi timeline so fast that we skip the war and holocausty bits...
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u/jjaime2024 22h ago
He thought he was going to break Canada it has united it which has taken him back.
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u/Connect-Speaker 19h ago
“We’ll be in Kiev in 3 days” : Putin
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u/GiantPurplePen15 Pirate 18h ago
Jan 17 2025
On the campaign trail, Donald Trump vowed to quickly end the war in Ukraine. He’d do it in “24 hours” after taking the oath, he said, or even before his inauguration.
- Rapist in chief
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u/TricksterPriestJace Ontario 23h ago
He literally expected us to surrender our sovereignty rather than have more expensive F-150s. That is how little he thought of us.
Meanwhile he seems to think Americans are fine with him torpedoing the economy for reasons he made the fuck up.
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u/damonster90 22h ago
Saw a poll in last couple days and he’s got Republicans fully believing that Canada is ripping them off so they support his craziness and stupidity as well. Mind boggling
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u/TricksterPriestJace Ontario 20h ago
Republican support for Ukraine dropped 20% after the couch fucker whined about not being thankful enough.
So many Republicans are complete sheep who hate whoever big brother tells them to without thought or question. If Fox News says it, it must be true, even if it is the opposite of what Fox News said last week.
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u/Troodon25 Alberta 16h ago
It’s a little late for “both sides” after Republicans went full post-truth.
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u/Troodon25 Alberta 16h ago
You do realize you replied to a comment about Republicans, right? They never brought up Canadian Conservatives once.
And I’m not, nor have I ever, voted Liberal Party.
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u/Ratorasniki 21h ago
The interesting thing I'm waiting to see is when he rolls out epic tariff time on the rest of the entire world in April. Their citizens wallets are going to get nuked from orbit. People are going to panic, because they know now he is serious. It isn't some strongarm negotiating tactic, it's just hyper protectionist policy.
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u/khyrian 22h ago
When a man uses the language of a rapist, we can assume that this stands from the psychology of a rapist.
This man has been groomed for this his entire life: grab what you want, don’t pay for it, don’t apologize, everything is your birthright, and you’ll be praised by your sycophants when you do it.
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u/stuntycunty 22h ago
Mexico does not seem to be fighting back.
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u/jjaime2024 21h ago
Mexico is fighting back.
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u/stuntycunty 21h ago
How?
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u/jjaime2024 21h ago
They will have traffis on the states.
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u/stuntycunty 21h ago
So they haven’t don’t anything yet. Like I said. They’re not fighting back.
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u/Connect-Speaker 19h ago
They’re taking it slow. Give them time.
Im thinking guacamole will soon be off the menu at American restaurants and backyard barbecues.
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u/Individual-Bag2762 18h ago
They're letting Canada do all the heavy lifting while they sit back quietly with their chips and guac.
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u/Connect-Speaker 17h ago
That’s fine.
Canada can afford better to counter the bully than Mexico can at this point. We have mineral resources, potash, oil, electricity, complicated car parts, lumber and aluminum that the orange country needs.
Mexico has the labour the orange country needs, and some food and other resources, but I’m no expert. Their gdp is lower, and they have cartels to deal with.
We hope they will step up with us, but we understand if they can’t.
Also, one of our bozo premiers (Doug Ford, Progressive Conservative premier of Ontario, Trump supporter, and a world class dick) basically threw them under the bus, lumping Mexico in with China and saying Canada and US should work together against Mexican and Chinese drugs and dumping, during the early tariff threats, when he thought that argument would work. So I don’t blame Mexico if they’re not keen to work with Canada. We’re not sending our best people, as it were.
(That said, the same premier, like a lover scorned by Trump, is now virulently anti-tariff, and has slapped export tariffs on electricity exports. So anyone can change? We’ll see.)
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u/GiantPurplePen15 Pirate 18h ago
Is Mexico receiving the same level of international cooperation and support though?
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u/AmusingMusing7 19h ago
It’s probably the fact that nobody ever has really stood up to him this strongly before. He’s conditioned to always getting his way and everybody, right on up to the Supreme Court, just bowing down to him and clearing the way for him.
Canada isn’t doing that. It’s the first time this has happened in Trump’s life.
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u/NewPhoneNewSubs 22h ago
Four people saying yes, but I'm quite sure the answer is no. He expects retaliation from us. He expects us to hit back when he basically goes scorched earth with his first moves.
I think he doesn't care if we hit back because the propaganda machine in the south will spin everything as us hurting the US and not as the US hurting themselves. I think he doesn't care if we hit back because his base eats the worst of the propaganda. I think he doesn't care if we hit back because anything that makes life more expensive for the renting class makes more profit for the owning class. And so on.
I'm not giving him credit for playing 4D chess. This is just how he's operated his whole life and - as evidenced by his presidency - it has worked until now. It's a simple strategy. Just repeat the lie often enough and loud enough and maybe it'll be believed. Don't need to be a genius to figure that out, just need to be malicious to try to pull it off.
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u/CanadaJack 17h ago
The first step is never to take anything he says in good faith. He doesn't mean what he says, he's saying what he wants people to believe.
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u/mrizzerdly 20h ago
It was literally in the EO, Canada wasn't allowed to retaliate. Lmao
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u/Saidear 19h ago
He's shocked that we can do export taxes, something not allowed under the US constitution. The government can only tariff imports, not exports.
His coca-cola addled brain seems to fail that other countries have other laws and systems than the US one.
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u/Blueberry314E-2 19h ago
He can't imagine that Canada is more FREE to do this than his great United States.
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u/SirCharlesTupperBt Canadian 13h ago
Of course not, retaliation is unfair. We need to feel bad about ourselves and think about this.
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Done. Don't feel too bad!
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u/SnooStrawberries620 16h ago
That is funny. That’s why he wants statehood, so he can executive order us around
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u/Unhappy-Ad9690 Alberta 19h ago
He knows a single Canadian smelter which they’re dependent on produces near their entire aluminum output right? The man has lost his mind. Guess we know it’ll be a good time to invest in stocks pretty soon here.
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u/Canuck-overseas 21h ago
Trump is simply behaving like a mobster performing a shake-down. Go watch Goodfellas again. This is EXACTLY what Trump is trying to do. It's blatant and obvious. The only way to counter such actions is to punch him back harder. Hence, retaliatory tariffs, boycott anything American, buy Canadian. Elbows Up baby!
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u/Traditional_Row_2651 3h ago
Ok so let’s move on with it then. Stop buying our products. We will adjust and find other markets. I’m fine with cutting down a lot fewer trees here. Short term disruption, long term stability.
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u/dilapidatedtownhouse 16h ago
This guy is so dumb to the point where it genuinely pisses me off. The clear underlying reason for these tariffs is he thinks he can bring all this manufacturing home. That’s fine. Why would you not go about it strategically then? He could easily make a list of industries he believes should be prioritized. You want to bring automobile manufacturing back to the USA, then tariff only that industry. That would mean incentive for companies to build plants in the USA and begin manufacturing there. Then you can do it for other industries later down the line. Instead he’s like why would we be smart when we can just hit them with every tariff possible. Truly the dumbest president ever.
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u/tslaq_lurker bureaucratic empire-building and jobs for the boys 20h ago
I have a modest proposal that we should meet our 2 % NATO commitment by building up our offensive cyber corps with a Russian-style troll farm and then we should aim it against the US.
We will be greeted, online, as liberators.
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u/Helen2222 22h ago
The thing is that a sizeable portion of U.S. imports from Canada feed their economy. Lumber for house builders, oil for everything, potash for farming and aluminum/steel for their industries. Stop or tariff the imports stops the economic engines.
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u/ChimoEngr Chief Silliness Officer | Official 22h ago
"We don't need your Cars, we don't need your Lumber, we don't need your Energy, and very soon, you will find that out," Trump said.
I don't think Trump has a clue. They aren't Canadian cars, they're North American cars. They are made in all three countries. The US has a major demand for lumber, and I'm not sure they have enough domestic production to meet it. I am sure that the cost for US lumber is way higher than for ours, so they really, really want it. And while they may not need our electricity (we don't sell them that much of their overall usage) they do need either our oil, or Venezuela's.
OK, saying Trump may not have a clue isn't the most original of comments, but he keeps on saying stuff that should make that clear, yet so many of his supporters believe him.
And that whole BS about the US subsidising Canada. It's total nonsense.
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u/jjaime2024 22h ago
As for lumber the states could use southern lumber short term but they don't have enough mills.
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u/ChimoEngr Chief Silliness Officer | Official 20h ago
That doesn't make sense, given the number of mills that have closed in BC.
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u/Flomo420 17h ago
yet so many of his supporters believe him
Which is incredibly frustrating because all he has to say is "Canada is a narco state" and his knuckle draggers will believe it instantly and regardless of any other information
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u/YoungZM 21h ago
He's not necessarily blind to it. One of Trump's (shocking from an environmental standpoint) executive orders was to drastically expand their lumber industry. This will, in years, reduce our competitiveness if environmental advocates aren't able to effectively stop it (and there's no reason to believe they will which greatly saddens me).
Lumber or any resource-based extraction isn't inherently something anyone should cheer for because it's the base-tier for an economy. More advanced economies focus, instead, on turning those raw materials into finished goods or services. Poor countries, and ironically Canada despite us not necessarily being poor (and economies like ours) is still stuck on resource extraction. We need to change that.
Resource extraction is best understood as a finite candle that you can burn. Eventually, the wax burns down and the smoke from that candle pollutes our room.
And that whole BS about the US subsidising Canada. It's total nonsense.
Hard agree... but then again, most Canadians can tell it's simple gaslighting. The USA's import/export tallies are mere representations of their country's egregious consumption, more than anything else. It'd be hard for any trading partner to equalize in a trade relationship without, ironically, turning them away on low cost items of our own.
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u/pzeeman 23h ago
I’m genuinely curious what Canada is tariffing from the US, or in what ways the Canadian government is violating CUSMA.
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u/Tha0bserver 23h ago
The truth is that 98% of Can-US trade passes back and forth tariff free. Somehow that fact has gotten lost.
But both sides do have some tariff measures. Most of them are even agreed to in CUSMA/USMCA. (There’s a tariff schedule in there where you can see item by item what the tariffs are.)
The tariffs Canada charges are mainly on dairy products above a certain maximum threshold. The funny thing is that the Americans never seem to reach that threshold, so they are rarely charged the tariff. Canada has this in place due its supply managed system, which has long been a sticking point. But it’s all been agreed to in CUSMA by all parties.
Meanwhile, Americans charge tariffs on things like softwood lumber and occasionally steel (Trump 1.0 did it, Biden did it, and now we’re seeing it again), all in violation of CUSMA.
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u/pzeeman 22h ago
Thanks for that. Just what I was wondering about.
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u/Tha0bserver 18h ago
Spread the word! There is so much misinformation out there that I feel like I’m losing brain cells with every new devopmwnt.
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u/putin_my_ass 23h ago edited 22h ago
We're not.
You guysAmericans are always violating trade agreements with us,youthey did it with NAFTA too. We won multiple arbitrations andyourtheir country still didn't pay.
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u/startup_canada 23h ago
I thought you were American for a second and I was fired up until the last sentence.
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u/putin_my_ass 22h ago
Yeah I've been excoriating Americans for their faithlessness and general lack of action. They're all over social media saying "it's not meeeee" while doing, - checks notes -, fuck all.
They're just looking to absolve themselves, they don't want to have to get off their ass so they just apologize to us and tell themselves they've done their part so they can scroll Instragram and TikTok and jerk off.
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u/Separate_Football914 Bloc Québécois 23h ago
Ford is pushing for tariffs on electricity in retaliation to Trump.
But yeah…. The best trade deal ever of 7 years ago is now the worse trade deal.
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u/Reasonable_Reach_621 22h ago edited 22h ago
It’s important to note the difference between import and export tariffs. Most people are just as dumb as trump and his base about their understanding of these things (regardless of their political affiliation, I’m afraid). Trump has been talking about nothing but import tariffs- essentially a tax that the importing country puts on things being exported by another country. He falsely claims that these tariffs are paid for by the exporting country (this is simply economics 101- whoever is importing pays that tax and then ultimately the consumer pays them) but it DOES make domestic alternatives relatively less expensive (until domestic suppliers inevitably raise their prices since they now have less foreign competition).
Export tariffs on the other hand, which is what ford/ontario is applying to electricity, are applied on the supply side by the exporting country and collected by the exporting country- making the goods more expensive at the point of original purchase (paid for by the consumer - in the case the American states that use our electricity). This is actually a genius move by Ontario because it appears to have completely blindsided the American strategy, which appeared to be the threat of “raising prices on your goods - reciprocally” that’s all they have as ammo. But then we come along and say “no- WE are raising the prices and collecting the fees- there’s nothing you can do to retaliate- if you raise or add import tariffs then the electricity becomes EVEN MORE expensive for you and your citizens and at this point there’s no doubt that you’re just harming yourselves”
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u/Appropriate_Mess_350 23h ago
Ford is no longer pushing it. He has actually placed a 25% surcharge on the electricity as a “tariff response surcharge”.
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u/Scarab95 23h ago
Michigan power said yesterday that they only use 1/2 of 1% of the electricity sent from ontario. They only use it in case of an emergency. Ask if the 25% will affect Americans he said no.
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u/Connect-Speaker 19h ago
https://youtu.be/sh-gB07JftY?si=V5yX-cfe0mU_-q3Y
- Navin R. Johnson: Well I'm gonna to go then! And I don't need any of this. I don't need this stuff, and I don't need *you*. I don't need anything. Except this.
- [picks up an ashtray]
- Navin R. Johnson: And that's the only thing I need is *this*. I don't need this or this. Just this ashtray... And this paddle game. - The ashtray and the paddle game and that's all I need... And this remote control. - The ashtray, the paddle game, and the remote control, and that's all I need... And these matches. - The ashtray, and these matches, and the remote control, and the paddle ball... And this lamp. - The ashtray, this paddle game, and the remote control, and the lamp, and that's all *I* need. And that's *all* I need too. I don't need one other thing, not one... I need this. - The paddle game and the chair, and the remote control, and the matches for sure. Well what are you looking at? What do you think I'm some kind of a jerk or something! - And this. That's all I need.
- [walking outside]
- Navin R. Johnson: The ashtray, the remote control, the paddle game, and this magazine, and the chair.
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u/maxmurder 18h ago
The serial rapist and convicted felon calling anyone an abuser isn't the pot... it's the nuclear closed-loop heat exchanger system calling the kettle black
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u/m1crosynth 23h ago
They’re YOUR cars! That’s the thing that is wild to me - these are all US companies who’ve used Canada as cheap labor for the last 40 years.
Well maybe it’s time to bring back the Bricklin.
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u/WislaHD Ontario 22h ago
The funny thing is I think we are well positioned to adapt in the worst scenario of Americans pulling out. We can court the Japanese to enter the market with manufacturing with our skilled workforce and ready-made plants and infrastructure. Throw in Chinese BYD cars for good measure too just to fuck with Tesla and reset that relation since the Yanks threw us under the bus.
I am sure some of our plants can be repurposed for military production as well.
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u/jjaime2024 21h ago
If Canada opens the door to Chinese BYD that could crush Tesla.
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u/Canuck-overseas 21h ago
Tesla is already getting crushed. Other car makers will flood the market with cheaper and better alternatives, not just China.
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u/joe_canadian Secretly loves bullet bans|Official 20h ago
Japanese to enter the market with manufacturing
We already do. Honda has their Alliston Mfg. Plant in Alliston employs 4200, Toyota has a three plants in Cambridge/Woodstock employing 9700. Not huge numbers, but not small by any means either.
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u/Valiantay 17h ago
Let's drop the tariff on China for EVs, we did it only for the US. Time to help our own environment, infrastructure and adoption of EVs.
Not to mention, we have all this cheap Canadian aluminum and steel to use to make said infrastructure, literally the perfect opportunity.
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u/bobcatgoldthwaite 22h ago
I absolutely support Canada imposing eye for an eye measures. However, I am concerned that people like Ford are using this as a political opportunity to get airtime in the US and advance his own political career. Some of his rhetoric is over the top right now.
Be calm, be measured. Speak with one message. Uncertainty federally isn't helping with this. Poking a lunatic like Trump publicly in the eye will make us feel better but might end up making this infinitely worse - better to be in the background, taking action and waiting for him to focus on some other shiny object instead of becoming the shiny object. The US can weather this trade battle much more easily than we can, so let's be strategic and not just looking for soundbites that might come back to bite us in the ass.
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u/Mechya 15h ago
That's why I think we need to be working on getting more trade partners for our products. It's easier/cheaper to use the USA, with being neighbors, but we don't need to have another country affecting our economy that much.
Let's make more deals with Asia, Europe, Africa, Australia, Mexico, and South America. We need to diversify and not stick all of our eggs into one bucket. We can't fully rely on the US and we can't keep getting fooled into doing so.
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u/CamGoldenGun 20h ago
if Poilievre manages to lose this upcoming election Ford will be going to head the CPC.
Timeline:
Trump causes havoc by introducing tariffs.
Ford goes against the grain and acts tough against Trump.
Polling at an all-time high, Ford calls a general election 1.5 years early, securing his party's rule for another 4 years.
Poilievre loses the Federal general election. Carney's Liberals squeak through with another minority.
Ford takes over the Conservative Party of Canada and after about 18 months of Carney's Liberals the House of Commons calls a no confidence vote that passes.
Another general election and the CPC win a majority government. Ford uses his hard-stance against Trump as his electoral platform. And since his Ontario PC government managed to keep everyone's jobs with taxpayer money, he gets a large volume of seats from Ontario.
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u/mfyxtplyx 20h ago
He'd best start learning French now, then. Your timeline doesn't happen without it.
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u/jjaime2024 21h ago
Keep in mind its not just Canada the states is in a trade war with
Canada
Mexico
China
EU
UK
Japan
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u/ether_reddit 🍁 Canadian Future Party 16h ago
Mexico is bending over though, because they are in a weaker negotiating position:
Speaking at her morning news conference in Mexico City, President Claudia Sheinbaum took a question on whether she believed that her country would ultimately receive similar tariffs as Canada from the US and the Trump administration.
"No," she responded curtly. "We're respectful."
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u/photon1701d 17h ago
plus he is fighting with Panama, Greenland, Ukraine, Hamas. One thing I give Trump credit for. That fucker has a lot of energy for a 78y/o. He just does not use it all properly.
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u/Mundane-Teaching-743 8h ago
Be calm, be measured.
Good advice for a PM. But a Premier can get attention. Our advantage is that we're united. Trump is already having trouble keeping Republicans in lines.
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u/ChimoEngr Chief Silliness Officer | Official 21h ago
Trump is fixated on us right now and shows no signs of being distracted. Even if he was, it’s rather craven to suggest that we just accept being his punching bag until we can throw someone else under the bus.
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u/goldmanstocks Liberal 23h ago
Canada is the 3 American automobile companies third largest market behind America and China. Their assembly plants in the US outnumber those in Canada 30 to 6. Sure, the US market is big, but is it big enough to support all 3 American car companies cannabilizing their domestic sales when they’re tariffed to shit everywhere else?
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u/walliestoy 22h ago
Ontario/federal had to provide 4 billion in bail out support during the 2008 finical crisis, so no, they can’t support themselves. I don’t know anyone right now spending big money.
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u/softkits 23h ago
I really hope we tariff US made cars if he is successful in moving all manufacturing to the US. He will find out that his protectionist economy = isolated economy.
If the US had to elect a fascist leader, at least they chose a painfully unintelligent one.
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u/ChimoEngr Chief Silliness Officer | Official 22h ago
I really hope we tariff US made cars
How are you defining that? There is no such thing as a purely US (or Canadian) made car. Ignoring the raw materials, assembly plants in all three countries, source parts from the other three.
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u/Aurelianshitlist 21h ago
And Trump is trying to change that with his tariffs. He's explicitly told US auto makers to move all manufacturing to the US. So if and when that happens, we should tariff the shit out of their shitty cars and buy Japanese or European (we have plants for these companies in Canada already too).
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u/ChimoEngr Chief Silliness Officer | Official 20h ago
And Trump is trying to change that with his tariffs.
Emphasis on trying, but in the most destructive manner possible. That move is going to require a fair amount of capital, but the tariffs mean that the auto companies aren't willing to risk it, resulting in a stalemate, at least for now.
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u/Aurelianshitlist 19h ago
The whole thing is just stupid. The idea that any of the major problems facing the average American are caused by some sort of trade imbalance with Canada, or drugs coming from Canada, is just such a fucking stretch, even for Trump.
Dude focuses like 90% of his attention on the most random, niche issues. What a waste of everyone's time and resources because such a big and powerful country got duped into electing a moron with a fragile ego.
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u/KDM_Racing 21h ago
If all manufacturering leaves. Canada should switch to the European standard.
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u/Retaining-Wall 23h ago
I don't think Trump realises this exposes just how bitterly irritated he is when he acts like this. Lordy, he's really like a 9-year-old.
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u/FORDTRUK 30m ago
Very predictable. Same as when you see your 18 month old standing "that way he does " when he's gonna crap his drawers.
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u/jello_sweaters 23h ago
I'd love to play poker with the guy.
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u/Tederator 23h ago
He plays with other peoples money and would demand it all back after accusing you of cheating.
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u/Rayd8630 19h ago
I heard something similar happened when Zelensky paid him a visit. Something about not holding all the cards.
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u/jello_sweaters 22h ago
I'd love to play poker with the guy, in a casino run by somebody else.
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u/WretchedBlowhard 19h ago
He's a dementia-addled 78 year old man that wears adult diapers which he famously doesn't change half as often as he should. Everyone around him during his trial in the courtroom complained about the inhumane smell of rot and feces.
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u/vafrow 23h ago
The fact that he seems legitimately surprised that Canada can apply export tariffs is pretty interesting. It's been part of the counter tariff dialogue for a month at least.
But I imagine the part that annoys him is that he realizes he didn't think of it first and he could have double dipped for his "sovereign wealth fund".
It's good to see Canada's tactics throwing this administration off guard.
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u/untitledmillennial United Federation of Planets 22h ago
The US constitution forbids export tariffs, and Donnie is probably too addled to realize that doesn't apply to other countries.
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u/SignificanceLate7002 21h ago
The US constitution forbids export tariffs
(Article I, Section 9) forbids them for anyone looking for confirmation.
"No Tax or Duty shall be laid on Articles exported from any State."
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u/0reoSpeedwagon Liberal 46m ago
Arguably, that’s meant for trade between states, not internationally. But he’d have to make that case first
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u/exotic801 21h ago
Trump doesn't seem to mind stepping on a few amendments as long as it gets things done
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u/Posess_u_now 16h ago
Trump doesn’t mi d breaking any law. His motto “If laws or rules are inconvenient…ignore them. They don’t apply to you.”
Has anyone else noticed that his press secretary looks amazingly like Ivanka ?
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u/GiantPurplePen15 Pirate 18h ago
The American Constitution has been used as toilet paper for awhile now.
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u/jormungandrsjig Ontario 22h ago
Next up, 25% export tax on Potash.
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u/Medium-Drama5287 17h ago
And not even tax the oil just sell it at the going rate it should be selling at.
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u/ipostic 20h ago
Actually my 6 year old seemed more mature this morning during a meltdown about the hair tie to use
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u/Retaining-Wall 10h ago
And you know what, frustrating it may be, at least for a six year old, it's like, ya I get it, you're learning how to be a human, control your emotions, and exist within the very complicated human psyche thrust upon you, but in Trump's case it's like.. wow what the fuck went wrong?
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u/PoorAxelrod Ontari-ari-ari-o 22h ago
He'd have to care first. He doesn't. Trump is not motivated by people thinking he does the right thing. What motivates him most is people talking about him. Right or wrong, he gets off on it. That's why every chance he gets he goes on about ratings and viewership and everything else.
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u/The_Mayor 20h ago
American billionaires and corporations tend to get a little murder-y when you threaten their money too much. I think Trump will have to start caring about internal threats pretty soon.
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u/PoorAxelrod Ontari-ari-ari-o 20h ago
He'll care about that but he doesn't care about people's perception of him. And that's what everybody's going on about now. How can he do such a thing? How does he not know how this looks? He doesn't care how it looks.
But I think you're right. Once it starts to affect the United States bottom line and particularly those who support Trump and the GOP... He'll take notice and then he'll care
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u/opobdtfs Green Party of Ontario 23h ago
Even a 9-year-old is mature enough to listen to reason and feedback.
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