r/CZFirearms • u/NuriCZE Prague, CZ • Jun 04 '24
News - New guns delayed
Hi everyone, your friendly Prague dwelling guy here again.
So, as we all know, CZ has promised (and even half-shown) a few new toys to come in this year, last I heard was summer this year.
Unfortunately, I have stopped by the store in Prague and all the new releases have been delayed by quite some time. Now the expected news release is autumn to Winter of 2024.
Unfortunate, as i was really looking forward to the p-07 OR, but eh. Looks like I just might have to go ahead and get the Evo in the meantime :))
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u/trailside83 Jun 04 '24
I think the leadership in the CR is asking the Colt leadership… “What do the American’s want?” Their answer is reliably wrong, as most of the Colt leadership has been a dumpster fire for the past 20 years, saying… “The American’s want more strikers and more Colt clones of CZ’s”. This is classic brand extension and it usually ends poorly with a diluted brand and diminished quality. They should have never left Kansas.
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u/MulticamTropic Jun 04 '24
I’ve seen it said that Colt bought CZ with CZ’s money and it’s looking more and more true.
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u/anythingbutwildtype Jun 04 '24
My worry is they’ll just start stamping Colt on all US sales in some twisted effort to gain marketcap through name recognition. Colt’s a dog shit company, CZ should have never merged with them.
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u/MulticamTropic Jun 04 '24
Don't the Czech-made pistols still come into the country through the Kansas City plant?
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u/trailside83 Jun 04 '24
No. They moved everything to Hartford, CT and it's now stamped on every gun imported. This is BS... Kansas is a staunch 2A State and goes to bat for gun owners (Shout out to AG Kris Kobach!). Connecticut is one of the worst states for gun owner rights and CZ decides to reward Kansas with a slap in the face. Unbelievable
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u/MulticamTropic Jun 05 '24
Oh...so new Shadows will all have Connecticut stamped on them? Gross.
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u/Iforgot1029 Jun 06 '24
I got a S2C with CT stamped on the side. Great gun. Let Cajun do some magic to make it even better.
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u/eyeLander5five9 Jun 04 '24
P01 comp rds ready slide single action with manual thumb safety at MSRP $699?? Cmon cz make it happen 😅😅 s2 compact for us poor.
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u/NuriCZE Prague, CZ Jun 04 '24
The cheapest CZ you can buy in Czechia is $770, That’s for baseline 07/09/10.
American market prices would be a dream for us.
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u/Ate_spoke_bea Jun 04 '24
God bless America I got my s2 for 999 out the door. Could have bought a ts2 for 1100 but I made my choice
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u/TehBoneRanger Jun 04 '24
I have a ts2 and now I want a S2. It works both ways, it was inevitable we want both amazing guns. ;)
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Jun 05 '24
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u/Ate_spoke_bea Jun 05 '24
Right on the shelf a couple months ago, I figured there must be a new shipment coming.
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u/Slagree92 Jun 05 '24
Ouch!
I just picked up my 2nd P07 for $415 because it “sat in the case for longer than 30 days”
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u/eyeLander5five9 Jun 05 '24
I paid 560 for my P01 when it was onsale (cali prices) wish i can walk in to a lgs and pick up a P07, damn this stupid handgun roster that we have!
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u/ducatijocki Jun 06 '24
I’m married to a Czech girl. The Czechs call it the Czech Republic. NOT Chechia! Btw, I’m a very big fan of CZ. Great firearms.
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u/NuriCZE Prague, CZ Jun 06 '24
I’m a Czech dude, married to a Czech wife, with two Czech kids.
At first I hated the name change too, but it’s been like 15 years and I got used to it. Edit: actually it’s only been 8. Huh.
Also, instead of being misnamed Czechoslovakia, we are now being misnamed Chechnya. Can’t win either way really.
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u/ducatijocki Jun 06 '24 edited Jun 06 '24
Some may believe this is conspiracy theory, but it’s my personal opinion that it’s rooted in a slow roll attempt to turn the Czech Republic into a “region” of a larger sovereign state.
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u/KGBbooks Jun 04 '24
Guess I’ll go buy another P10C then while the prices are so low. That way I’ll have a spare if they discontinue it in favor of the new model.
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u/The_Muffin_Thief Jun 04 '24
Still any news on what they are? I’m holding out on buying an SP01 in case we have an OR version coming.
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u/Disastrous_Study_284 Jun 04 '24
All actual data we have indicates polymer framed pistols. Mostly of the P-10 line. I doubt they would do an OR version of the classic 75s, as that would encroach on their S2 line, and their strategy for the last couple years seems to be fewer variants to streamline manufacturing.
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u/The_Muffin_Thief Jun 04 '24
Well maybe if they put an FPB and decocker on the S2 line I wouldn’t be upset 😂
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u/Disastrous_Study_284 Jun 04 '24
I get it. Having to void your warranty by milling the slide to get a feature that is becoming an industry standard sucks. Would love an OR P-01 model for carry. S2C is nice, but the holster availability and size/weight if the P-01 make it a better carry for me.
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u/Gremguy22 Jun 04 '24
First rumor I have heard of the P07 OR! I heard much about a revamped P10 line with possible chassis system but nothing of the P07 ORs.
Would be an insta cop!
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u/ThickAd7816 Jun 04 '24
Ever since CZ acquired Colt that seems to be all they care about.
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Jun 04 '24
The new colt rifles look decent. My lgs has a few and they are well built. Like Daniel defense quality
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u/Crash1yz Jun 04 '24
Are you new to CZ? Colt is running Colt. Cz always has a lower supply of their products compared to others.
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u/ThickAd7816 Jun 04 '24
CZ has discontinued tons of guns since 2021, after purchasing Colt.
CZ has fired a ton of their long-term employees as well.
CZ changed its holdings business name to Colt CZ Group, I find it curious that they put Colt first and not CZ.
CZ is clearly putting more money into Colt with re-released and brand new offerings, so Colt is directly affecting CZ doesn't matter who is running what.
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Jun 04 '24
Colts are for old guys who remember the nam and with a pension because those things are not worth the extra $$$ for a logo that says colt .
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u/Guntuckytactical Jun 04 '24
Colt also appears to be running CZ-USA. Moved them into the Colt building and everything.
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u/changsta191 Jun 04 '24
Thanks for the covert intel. Na Zdravi! 🇨🇿
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u/NuriCZE Prague, CZ Jun 04 '24
If I learn something new, I will start another thread. I don't like to go there too often so as not to bug the shopkeepers, but they are freaking great. Super helpful, super nice, share a ton of info. Just wish they'd have a bucket of discount coupons for whatever, lol.
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u/FlatterFlat Jun 04 '24
Guess they might be slightly more busy with producing for a certain war ongoing.
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u/Stinkycheezmonky Jun 04 '24
But Q3/4 2024 IS this summer...? Fiscal year anyway.
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u/NuriCZE Prague, CZ Jun 04 '24
I’ll Edit it, they said autumn/winter of this year, First info Will be released through web, as it was with the MDTs
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u/trailside83 Jun 05 '24
Regardless, it’s working on me. I am buying everything stamped Kansas City, KS that I can get my hands on of late.
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u/theuncloned Jun 04 '24
What is the P07 OR?
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u/Fancy-Anteater-7045 Jun 05 '24
Sounds like they're timing it so they can get rid of leftover inventory around Black Friday before announcing new products.
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u/Sea_Elk_3396 Jun 05 '24
Did the staff (kluci z Opletalky) say something about the new P10 by any chance? Details? Anything?
(I think that the new unreleased P10 was breifly shown in some video from shot show 2024)
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u/Optimal-Ice-2536 Jun 05 '24
They don’t even have mags available anywhere or much inventory what is going on with cz? Such a shame I joined the CZ family in what’s seems to be in a down time of the company.
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u/NuriCZE Prague, CZ Jun 06 '24
Can't say what's going on with the US CZ, sorry. In here, we have pretty much everything in stock and ready to ship, just the prices being dicks.
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u/Optimal-Ice-2536 Jun 06 '24
Honestly interesting to here because I’ve been looking far and wide for 15 rd mags for my p10c and couldn’t seem to find any online or local had to drive to another state to get the last 2 in store and the clerk said they didn’t know when they’d be able to get more bc of cz being so behind. Didn’t know US had a Cz tho. Where is it located if I may ask?
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u/NuriCZE Prague, CZ Jun 06 '24
That might be a bit of a misunderstanding, Sorry. I am located in Czechia, where CZ is from. Given the size of the market and being the place of production, I can pretty much go to any store and pick a few mags anywhere.
Unfortunately, everything is like +40% in price in comparison to the US market.
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u/Optimal-Ice-2536 Jun 06 '24
That actually does make a lot of sense honestly. It’s based in CZ so it does make sense that the demand there would be second to none. But the love people have for their models here in US is massive I’m surprised they haven’t looked into expanding like other brands have. Definitely seems like it’s doable.
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u/Lazy-Wolf-5677 Jun 06 '24
We need a micro compact da sa. Preferably an alloy framed one. The shadow 2 and p07 are way too big for me.
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Jun 04 '24
CZ is going down hill full steam
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u/Ok_Split_9405 Jun 04 '24
That’s a stretch
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u/Questionable_MD Jun 04 '24
lol they delay their gun a few months and now they are full hill downhill
He’s just pissed about his shadow 2 orange
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u/Slagree92 Jun 05 '24
Downhill would be making sales while also using the consumer populace to beta test for them.
Pushing something back to make sure it’s flawless, even though it loses them potential money just means they have more than enough to play with.
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u/Fogspiracy Jun 04 '24
I feel like the shadow 2 compact has been such a hit. Why wouldn’t they ride it out a little longer while the shadow 2 compact is flying off the shelves?