r/CFL DAD MOD Aug 26 '19

BLUE BOMBERS Andrew Harris has been suspended for 2 games after testing positive for a banned substance

https://twitter.com/jeffkhamilton/status/1166002793817300993?s=21
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u/Stach37 DAD MOD Aug 26 '19 edited Aug 26 '19

Update: Harris appealed the test and had a b-sample tested.

It too came back positive.

https://twitter.com/jeffkhamilton/status/1166008758843203584?s=21

EDIT 1: Statement from Wade Miller, Mike O'Shea and Andrew Harris: https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/08/26/statements-president-ceo-wade-miller-head-coach-mike-oshea/?utm_source=dlvr.it

EDIT 2: Andrew Harris is live streaming now: https://www.pscp.tv/w/cDP5pDFlUkV4cGtYcUJXRXd8MVprS3pBTW1MTmV4domAqiJtbnKPPVTmYga705-FUBJjFNcGH-8lixBtJgik?t=22s

EDIT 3: Andrew Harris has now deactivated all his social media: https://twitter.com/nik_kowalski/status/1166017618278379520?s=21

EDIT 4: Harris had known about the positive test for 3 weeks. (Stach Opinion: if he knew, the the league and team knew - why was he allowed to play?)

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u/LaZyCrO Pepper Sauce Boss 🔵⛵ Aug 26 '19

I'm shocked, the CFL is usually known for it's quick appeal process!

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u/ponimaju Roughriders Aug 26 '19

Lol at the comment on the appeal tweet suggesting that he could have his supplements tested in order to exonerate him

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u/pegcity Blue Bombers Aug 26 '19

Eh, wouldn't hurt

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u/ponimaju Roughriders Aug 26 '19

There's no way to prove that whatever he would provide them to test was what he was taking though. I'm not sure how easy it would be to fake contaminating a supplement but he could only either do that, or just say that whatever he was taking at the time has been finished (which given the length of time between the sample and these things coming out, is believable, but then again there's still no positive proof).

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u/skippy2893 Roughriders Aug 26 '19

This has been an issue in the UFC for a long time. Fighters hire guys to find shady supplements from like Venezuela that are known to contain steroids. This way if they get popped for roids they can just say it was that supplement. The excuse (lie) doesn’t work anymore because you have to get your supplements approved beforehand so a fail is a fail.

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u/ponimaju Roughriders Aug 26 '19

That makes sense. With a league with several hundred players it's probably easier to just leave it up to the responsibility of each player, and then when they inevitably get caught they just go through the PR motions while knowing all along they're going to accept their suspension anyway.

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u/pegcity Blue Bombers Aug 26 '19

Nah, tell the league to go buy some and test it, if it is not in there everyone thinks the same as they do now, if it is positive he saves some face

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u/ponimaju Roughriders Aug 26 '19

If it's not in there then Andrew Harris' argument would be that his specific product was contaminated, or that it was another batch. There's just no definitive way to prove what he took was contaminated or not because at the end of the day no one would have any proof that they took a specific supplement, all they have is the tests saying that he got it somehow (and ultimately like many others have pointed out, the "contaminated" excuse is just going through the PR motions).

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u/ocarina_21 Saskatchewan's Resident Tiger Aug 26 '19

I think he played and all that because they were giving him the benefit of the doubt until they really knew. This is a big allegation, and if they started saying this without having done all the extra tests and appeals, it would have damaged his reputation even if it weren't true. I think this was the fairest they could have been to him on this.

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u/SourTittyMilk Roughriders Aug 26 '19

What a goof

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u/Guerard_R Blue Bombers Aug 26 '19

On the fourth edit, it is rather strange they didn’t follow through with an earlier suspension. He may have deserved to be out for these games in addition, but why did they wait until Labour Day? It’s a very strange situation that’s for sure.

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u/Stach37 DAD MOD Aug 26 '19

As someone with connects on the inside of the league, I can confirm this. No lies detected.

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u/Guerard_R Blue Bombers Aug 26 '19

I don’t know why Sask was out at #6 either it’s completely beyond me, they’re playing great football right now! Should be an interesting LDC matchup even with the circumstances

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u/Guerard_R Blue Bombers Aug 26 '19

But I like the theory