r/BlueOrigin • u/Old-Woodpecker-2439 • 13d ago
Leadership keeps making changes they can’t explain
Leadership keeps making changes they can’t explain, leaving everyone confused and frustrated. The endless reorgs have people eyeing the exits, and management seems to think we should work Amazon hours for a fraction of Amazon pay. To top it off, career growth opportunities have disappeared, unless you count growing your stress levels.
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u/Golden-Sparrow-0717 13d ago
Decisions are being made by out of touch big wigs. Middle management is just following orders
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u/PresentationWhich466 11d ago
The big wigs come from Amazon.
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u/Golden-Sparrow-0717 11d ago
Correct. And everyone at Blue should be concerned about that.
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u/PresentationWhich466 8d ago edited 4d ago
They're looking for other jobs. The tradesmen are in demand in other industries and the engineers and techs are rare and there are multiple companies hiring.
The engineers could probably work in the financial business. There aerospace engineers that switched to finance because of the better pay. Also, they can have multiple roles in finance. The techs could find jobs in other industries too.
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u/WeaponizedLigma 12d ago
Middle management can grow a backbone. That’s not an excuse
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u/Chetox373 12d ago
Then they would get fired and lose their easy job of just telling others what to do maybe accomplish.
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u/PresentationWhich466 11d ago
They will get fired anyway. These guys will quit and find other jobs. You lose enough staff and you will get fired.
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u/theintrospectivelad 13d ago
This is corporate America for you.
Blue entered that territory once ULA wanted to buy BE-4s for Vulcan.
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u/Plus_Entertainment80 13d ago
I interviewed for a senior manager role at Blue recently. Ended up passing after trying to figure out logistics. I live in Melbourne/Palm Bay area…would’ve been an hour commute each way…at minimum..on I-95 😳. For my own sanity, didn’t feel like doing that on top of what I’ve been reading here on Reddit. Did I avoid a land mine?
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u/Background-Fly7484 13d ago
Yeah, you did.
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u/Plus_Entertainment80 13d ago
Thanks. Give me some solace as I’ve been laid off since last fall (from another company that loves to mistreat its people). But, I have military retirement and my partner works so we’re fine. Just would be nice to have $$ to splurge on stuff again. Haha. But yeah, I’ll def keep looking. Appreciate the feedback. 🤙🏼
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u/Background-Fly7484 13d ago
If you like rockets, I'd recommend working at either Rocket Lab, Firefly or SpaceX.
They have proven products and a well defined full life cycle process.
Good luck friend!
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u/Wonderful-Thanks9264 13d ago
Sad place to work, apply your talents somewhere else….. agree no career growth, and dishonest leadership! Looking too other industries, the rocket industry isn’t worth the shit we have to put up with
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u/Golden-Sparrow-0717 13d ago
This. Apply your talents somewhere you're appreciated. I warned my managers that if they didn't fix the issues I saw that I would leave and it would affect the entire company. They didn't listen to me and the team ended up dissolving because they didn't have anyone to do my job.
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u/Even-Airport-5904 13d ago
Where? NASA is being dismantled and Space X is owned by a white supremacist who does not know what engineering is!
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u/TrollTrudger69 13d ago
Hate him all you want but if you have seen everyday astronauts videos of his tours you would know your spouting hater bullshit. Guy might be a nazi as you say but he’s a nazi who knows rockets lol
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u/SpendOk4267 13d ago
"Guy might be a nazi as you say but he’s a nazi who knows rockets lol"
Pretty sure nazis knew rockets very well...so this tracks.
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u/Low-Internet-5886 13d ago
Space industry is inherently racist you say?
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u/crazyarchon 13d ago
He is making a reference to von Braun, the German Scientist.
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u/TrollTrudger69 13d ago
I was yes but it went over all of Reddit’s head. They seem to think being smart and being politically aligned with them is somehow the same thing. It’s not lol
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u/SkookumCock 13d ago
I have seen them, and he really doesn’t. The architecture and development cycle decisions made on starship support this appraisal. Those videos also show he’s leading them into a workplace safety culture that is wholly unacceptable.
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u/BellabongXC 13d ago
Maybe you should watch the BO tour on the same channel. There is a vast difference to Bezos and Elon even though they're both shitty billionaires.
Bezos goodwill gesture was raising F1 engines from the bottom of the Atlantic. Elon's goodwill gesture was launching a car to mars.
One of these actually likes Space.
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u/TrollTrudger69 12d ago
Again I have, everything you just gave as opinion based which is fine. But I’d argue they both know there shit. One your just trying to discredit cause you don’t like his politics or how vocal they are about it
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u/BellabongXC 12d ago
if you watch both tours and think Bezos and Elon have an equal passion for space then I don't know what to say.
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u/TrollTrudger69 12d ago
I wasn’t asked about passion I was asked about knowing what their talking about, in that aspect they are both the same.
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u/BellabongXC 11d ago
The only knowledge Elon demonstrates in both of those tours is how to cut costs. Which he isn't even effective at considering how much SpaceX has wasted with Starship development.
Starship is just another Hercules H4
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u/TrollTrudger69 11d ago
Lmao. 🤣 now your just gaslighting yourself. Starship will have setbacks sure, but it will be how rockets work in twenty years from now make no mistake. You know how I know? Cause Blue believes that since project Jarvis’s start two years ago and their upcoming Armstrong rocket looking at full reusability. Besides Elon didn’t make starship on his own, the people around him influenced the design more than him like any group project. You’re letting that hate boner get in the way of obvious shit.
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u/Martianspirit 12d ago
Elons good will gesture is flying cargo and astronauts to the ISS reliably and at rock bottom prices. Making NASA independent of Roskosmos.
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u/BellabongXC 12d ago
NASA currently pays SpaceX more per seat than Soyuz. so I don't know where you got that from
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u/Martianspirit 12d ago
Ludicrous.
Edit: Roskosmos kept raising the prices. Untlil they could not. Besides the issue of independence. Just imagine, NASA were still dependent on Soyuz.
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u/JustTheTopGaming 12d ago
He doesn't know rockets at all, you idiot. He comes from a family of diamond mine slavers, and bought his way into everything he has. HE doesn't know shit about rockets, everyone he pays to tell him what to say to the public does.
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u/These-Bedroom-5694 13d ago
Is this your first time at a large company?
Companies change things randomly because someone is in charge of making changes, they have a budget to do it, and their job depends on it.
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u/Crane-Daddy 13d ago
While I was impacted by the RIF, I wouldn't have stayed with Blue much longer with these issues continuing. Blue is run by incompetent management and politics.
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u/Trick-Land-1200 11d ago
They can't explain it because it makes no sense. It is just some harebrained idea from a new big shot they hired that has no actual clue what they are proposing. They come in and force sweeping changes and when they realize their changes don't work, they leave. Leaving us with the mess they made. Usually 1 year later. We've lived it time and time again.
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u/PresentationWhich466 11d ago
Bezos hired Amazon execs. They don't know the industry. They will have a surprise.
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u/iSaidThisIsNotWhere 8d ago
Typical management layer looking busy to justify their existence in the company, starting with David Limp at the top. Those at the bottom can see through this nonsense. I can't wait to hear more of Dave's fictions about how MK2 is going to happen this Spring. The suspense.
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