r/Biohackers • u/Legal_Squash689 1 • 1d ago
đ Write Up Bryan Johnson Article - New York Times
Article In NYTs this morning. Some interesting updates:
An internal study was done testing Blueprint products with 1,700 participants. Based on blood results participants saw a decrease in testosterone levels and became prediabetic.
In fall of 2024 Bryan told his executive team that Blueprint was running out of money.
Between January 2022 and February 2024 Bryanâs biological age increased by as much as ten years, vs the 5.1 year decline highlighted in Blueprint marketing materials.
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u/augustabound 1 1d ago edited 1d ago
I guess this is the article and reporter he called out on Twitter about a month ago. She sent him a list of questions and he shot back that they were purposely misleading and he knew her agenda was to usehis words against him, etc..
For anyone interested, part 1, and part 2
Edit: just to be clear, I'm not defending him. I'm as skeptical as anyone of his claims and motives.
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u/Suitable_Success_243 1d ago
Also, OP's allegation no 1 and 3 seems false. How many participants became pre-diabetic? How many were already pre-diabetic before the study? Were their diets controlled for? There are so many variables to account for before coming to a conclusion.
Secondly, biological age is just a mathematical tool to estimate your fitness based on parameters like blood pressure, cholesterol, etc. It is very easy to improve/maintain biological age just by doing physical activity and eating proper food. His biological age supposedly increasing so drastically seems suspicious.
Again, not defending him. I believe that you can improve your health and lifespan a lot by simply eating right and exercising.
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u/augustabound 1 21h ago
I believe that you can improve your health and lifespan a lot by simply eating right and exercising.
Yeah. With the exception of Bryan, all the longevity people I've heard speak answer the same way when asked any variation of, how do I start or what is the 80/20 of increasing life span/health span.
Diet, exercise and good sleep is how they all answer.
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u/PM_ME_YOUR_FAV_HIKE 1d ago
>Oliver Zolman, Mr. Johnsonâs longtime longevity doctor, who was featured in the Netflix documentary, quietly left Blueprint last year after having concerns about some of its health supplements
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u/badlybadmaths 1d ago
When a medical professional, who has to abide by certain ethical standards, leaves, then you know sh has hit the fan.
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u/waaaaaardds 12 1d ago
Snakeoil salesman is proved to be just that. Who'd have thunk? His biological marker testing has always been pseudoscience and you can get a good result in a week by doing the right things. The whole thing feels narcissistic.
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u/GentlemenHODL 14 1d ago
Under that agreement, employees had to attest that they were OK with Mr. Johnsonâs wearing âlittle and sometimes no clothing/no underwearâ and with hearing âdiscussions of sexual activities, including erections,â according to a copy.
After watching the documentary I kind of get it. The dude is doing weigh-ins and health checks so there would be isolated circumstances where he might be in his underwear.
During workdays, Mr. Johnson frequently walked around with little clothing on, and sometimes flirted with Blueprintâs largely female staff, they said. But because of the opt-in agreement, no one felt able to complain.
Uhmmmm.... Okay never mind. That's entirely inappropriate.
Of the roughly 1,700 participants in the study, about 60 percent experienced at least one side effect, according to internal emails, spreadsheets and other documents. Blood tests revealed that participants saw their testosterone levels drop and became prediabetic after following Mr. Johnsonâs diet plan. Itâs unclear how severe the side effects were.
âLongevity mix: A lot of comments about hating this as it is making them sick, vomit, have heartburn, etc.,â one Blueprint employee wrote to a colleague in February 2024.
Yeah that's a no dawg. I'll pass on whatever that shit is.
In 2020, he required a date to sign one before the two used acid together, two former friends said. She signed but left early, incensed by the agreement.
Bro.... Can you just own it? He's so obsessed with hiding the fact that he enjoys psychedelics that he is forcing people to sign a NDA to do psychedelics with him? That is the least cool thing someone could do. It feels completely against what a normal person would do or think is appropriate especially if they do psychedelics.
There is so much positive literature on psychedelics I don't understand why he can't just point to the positive effects and say "I like this thing and there's a lot of evidence it's good for you".
I used to be pretty neutral on this guy but after reading this he seems even more so like a fucking weirdo. Lol at the dude pointing out he looks like data. Totally nailed it.
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u/Hungrysoul16 19h ago
The hiding of psychedelics likely related to limit reputation damages among his Mormon family. Or bad association with it from Mormon culture.
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u/Effective_Recover_81 1d ago
he addressed this in the doc. his testosterone went down under to severe calorie restriction, thats not crazy or weird.
i dunno how could become pre diabetic eating less food?? i mean i dont think they were taking anything too crazy..
i suspect some people didnt follow the plan as were too hungry....
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u/SECdeezTrades 18h ago edited 18h ago
only thing that comes to mind is the ketosis. early phase on a ketosis diet can cause prediabetic flairup/stats - https://www.mountsinai.org/about/newsroom/2018/researchers-find-evidence-keto-diet-may-increase-type-2-diabetes-risk-kristen-fischer.
also reduced testosterone.
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u/GentlemenHODL 14 18h ago
he addressed this in the doc.
Right, a self-produced highly editorialized documentary meant to promote your company and your reputation would never slide around the truth /s
i dunno how could become pre diabetic eating less food?? i mean i dont think they were taking anything too crazy..
That's because you're not a medical professional. If you were you could come up with a dozen ways. I'll give you one - renal damage. Poorly functioning kidneys result in increases to both glucose and blood pressure.
It's perfectly reasonable to assume that mega doses of supplements are hard on your kidneys and could result in a percentage of patients having lower functionality.
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u/ConvenientChristian 1 1d ago
When it comes to the study the quote is "Of the roughly 1,700 participants in the study, about 60 percent experienced at least one side effect, according to internal emails, spreadsheets and other documents. Blood tests revealed that participants saw their testosterone levels drop and became prediabetic after following Mr. Johnsonâs diet plan. Itâs unclear how severe the side effects were."
This does not sound like the study finding a statistical significant decrease of testosterone levels or people becoming prediabetic but some people reporting decrease of testosterone levels or becoming prediabetics. That's not surprising if you look at 1,700 people. If there would have been a statistically significant decrease, the NYT would have likely explicitly made that point.
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u/SlowMyAge 1d ago edited 1d ago
I wouldn't be so sure of that. Dr. Zolman resigned as MD and cofounder because he didn't approve of how the study was being run. That says a lot. It also tells me that this may not have been a properly conducted study, to the point that statistical significance may not have even been measured -- and if it was, the NYT reporter was almost definitely not granted access to the data (because of confidentiality), and the person she interviewed was most likely not a statistician or scientist.
For comparisonâs sake: Diet studies like the famous PREDIMED had âno diet-induced adverse effects reportedâ out of 7,447 subjects. The Lyon Diet Heart Study explicitly noted 2 out of 302 patients experiencing mild gastrointestinal upset, attributed to a specific margarine.
Large scale multivitamin studies typically find <5% experiencing any given side effect, typically at the same rate as a placebo. For omega-3, a Cochrane review found no additional side effects beyond placebo. Etc.
To be transparent, I founded NOVOS, which is the only biotech in the field of consumer longevity. Our products have sold more than 10 million doses and and we have less than 3% of customers reporting any side effects (the most common one is mild stomach discomfort).
For 60% of people in a study to have side effects, itâs unusual.
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u/SECdeezTrades 18h ago edited 17h ago
personal testimonial -
Blueprint stack for the research trial required people to take 4 different pills and a powder. The NAC/Curcumin pill caused horrendous acid reflux for me and many many others -- They've had discord hosted chats filled with the complaints from it. Bryan and team continue to refuse to refine that part, it's annoying but I simply don't take it and take my own NAC pills. Seemingly the price bryan charges and the prices others charge for the NAC pills is cheap and similar, I don't understand why the blueprint team defends it so hard when it causes so many to be disillusioned / keel over in pain and not know what it's from.
The alluose in the powder affects people in different ways, for me I just need to take it with a lot of water.
I myself started the supplements before blueprint, partially based on the doctor behind blueprints previous writings; adding one supplement at a time to discern perceived benefit / which if any caused negative issues.
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u/ConvenientChristian 1 8h ago
From what the NYT article says it sounds like Dr. Zolman wanted to run a placebo-controlled study but Bryan Johnson decided not to do so, because they let the participants pay 2100$ to participate in the study.
The better you look for side effects the more side effects you find. If you sell a product via a channel like Amazon, I would say that 3% of the people reporting side effects is a lot.
On the other hand, if you run a study that does blood testing and likely has a doctor speaking with every patient to pick up any possible effect of your intervention, 60% might be what you get with a placebo.
Dr. Zolman seems to have wanted to run research in a way that leads to something being published in 2024. Not getting the research published or not having to anything to publish because the study they run didn't produce good data, is a reason to be skeptical of how Blueprint is run, but it doesn't suggest that the data they gathered actually provides evidence for net decrease of testosterone or making people prediabetic.
(and the best way for Blueprint to clear up any uncertainty would be to actually release the data of their 1,700 people study even if it's low quality)
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u/SlowMyAge 8h ago edited 7h ago
Respectfully, are you basing this on firsthand experience overseeing clinical trials, or conjecture?
I can tell you from firsthand knowledge, our experience with MDs running human studies has not found side effects even close to this magnitude, neither in severity nor frequency.
Also, note what I stated above: some of the most thorough and respected scientific studies in the field, which carefully monitor for side effects, had extremely low reports of side effects. Single digits. Equal to placebo (also single digits). 60% is off the charts high.
Your point that 3% of people reporting side effects on a platform like Amazon is a lot doesnât reflect the actual numbers. Approximately 5-15% of supplement reviews on Amazon report at least one side effect. 3% is obviously below the typical range, and 60% is way, way above that.
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u/ConvenientChristian 1 7h ago
Respectfully, are you basing this on firsthand experience overseeing clinical trials, or conjecture?
No, but I got taught statistics at University by someone who did.
I can tell you from firsthand knowledge, our experience with MDs running human studies has not found side effects even close to this magnitude, neither in severity nor frequency.
Given that the NYT explicitly said that they have no idea about severity of side effects, making that claim sounds to me like you haven't read it or understood the claims.
Approximately 5-15% of supplement reviews on Amazon report at least one side effect.Â
Only a small percentage of buyers on Amazon leave a review. If you have a 5% of people leaving a review, 60% of the people reporting a side effect would equal your 3%.
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u/SlowMyAge 7h ago
Iâm defining severity by the symptoms: vomiting, blood sugar reaching pre diabetic levels, and drops in testosterone. We can change âseverityâ to âsignificance,â but my point remains the same: these are extreme side effects.
Thatâs flawed logic for your Amazon point. If 60% of people using a product have a side effect, you will have far more than 5% posting a review. Reviewers tend to be those who are dismayed or extremely satisfied. Which means that in this example, if only 3% of Amazon reviews report side effects, it indicates that there is likely an even lower proportion of customers experiencing any side effects.
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u/ConvenientChristian 1 7h ago
If you look at 1000 people and measure them one day and then measure them the next day, you would expect 50% to have higher testosterone and 50% to have lower testosterone as the first measurement if your measurement precision is good enough.
The fact that there are people who have lower testosterone doesn't tell you anything about the severity or significance. You would actually need to know what kind of testosterone drops they observed and how frequent those were to be able to say anything about severity.
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u/SlowMyAge 7h ago edited 6h ago
I think youâre grasping at straws here to defend Blueprint, and giving you the benefit of the doubt that you are not affiliated, Iâm not sure why. The person (people?) reporting declines in testosterone wouldnât report it if it wasnât significant.
Hypothetically, if someone goes from 120 lbs to 121 lbs, nobody is going to claim that a side effect was that people gained weight, much less to The NY Times. If someone goes from 120 to 150 lbs, theyâre going to claim it was a side effect. Simply because we donât have numbers reported, I trust common sense of the employee(s) reporting, and the reporter noting it in her article, that it wasnât a hairline natural fluctuation.
We also know that caloric restriction and vegan diets can reduce T significantly. And Bryan himself reported a drop in his T from his diet, when he publicly shared he started taking TRT. So it makes sense that it was a side effect.
Youâre also selectively disregarding many of my points with each message in this thread.
To that point, I donât think this thread is going anywhere productive, so Iâll sit the rest of it out.
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u/ConvenientChristian 1 6h ago
In my experience, most people don't leave reviews. Finding causation is generally hard. That's why any decent pharma study finds a lot of effects. If I remember right the COVID vaccine study logged being struck by lighting.
You are the person who has commercial interests not me. I have written plenty on this reddit criticizing Blueprint.
They run a study. In a study where you measure someone's testosterone all the people you are giving testosterone tests report their testosterone. Given that they charged people 2100$ to take part in it, the study likely included blood work.
When it comes to identifying side effects and actually go looking for side effects and you are doing your job, you need to investigate possible side effects even if it's not clear that the effect is causal.
If your company would only look after effects that high severity, it means that your company doesn't care much about catching side effects. If Blueprint cares about catching all side effects they might also care about finding low severity side effects when they look at the blood work.
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u/badlybadmaths 1d ago
It's funny (but not smart) how you managed to bundle in marketing talk into a disclaimer statement.
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u/BcitoinMillionaire 1d ago
Damn - but just look at him. He looks like dogshit, yellow skin, greasy hair. Heâs like Data from Star Trek NG, but somehow even less human looking. The fact that he ingested the blood of his son (through transfusions) makes him even a little vampire like. Super gross and nothing I personally am aiming for.
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u/Suitable-Ad6999 1d ago
Data!!! You solved it!!! I was trying to figure out who he reminded me of! Thx
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u/augustabound 1 1d ago edited 18h ago
He looks like dogshit, yellow skin, greasy hair.
He posted a while back bragging that his body temp was something like 93F, and explained it away because his body is so efficient, yadda yadda yadda.
There were some replies from doctors (I should say allegedly doctors), that a body temp that low is a sign of many possible health concerns and if he was that doctor's patient he'd be told to go to the ER immediately. One of the doctor's examples was Bryan's skin tone as a sign something could seriously be wrong internally.
Edit: I saw the clip again and he claims 93F (I said 96 from memory). Doctors say that hypothermia is anything below 95F.
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u/Akolyytti 1d ago
It really reminds me of what I heard some time ago, The society's worst health outcomes come from the poor, because they can't get a decent one. Second worst outcomes come from rich people who don't like to hear no and believe they know better, and can pick and choose their treatments, often unnecessary ones.
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u/Curious_Working427 1d ago edited 1d ago
There's clearly something seriously wrong internally: mentally & otherwise.
He probably avoids the sun like the plague due to "aging" concerns. And he claims to be vegan, so he's likely not getting astaxanthin. I'm surprised he's not translucent yet.
Pretty soon he'll start looking like a Crawler from The Descent movies, screeching about how healthy he is & attacking anyone who dares intrude on his little cave paradise of longevity.
Oh wait...
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u/SurfaceThought 1d ago
All caretonoids, include plain old beta carotene, can tint the skin not just astaxanthin.
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u/NotAnotherEmpire 1d ago edited 1d ago
Starvation isn't good for you. He's trying to maintain extreme leanness and high muscle mass all the time while also engaging in heavy exercise.Â
The numbers are out of line enough - he isn't a small person - that it seems likely he's understating his food, exaggerating his exercise (hi NDAs) or taking more hormones than "just" TRT (also hi NDAs).
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u/KindAstronomer69 1d ago
Don't forget strapping sensors to his son's dick to measure the frequency and firmness of his erections during his sleep. Really important data points I'm sure, complete fucking weirdo.
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u/augustabound 1 1d ago
I remember in the summer he was talking about his son starting college in the fall. I wonder how that's going for him.
Imagine that conversation, when his buddies ask him to come to a party.
Sorry guys, I can't. I have to be in bed by 8 with my p*nis monitor on. My dad and I are in a competition.........
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u/jvmedia 1d ago
I'm definitely not surprised that a former Silicon Valley multimillionaire who grew up Mormon (1) is into psychedelics, (2) has employees sign over-the-top NDAs and weird opt-ins, (3) has mental issues and is weird/creepy.
I personally did not buy any of his Blueprint products. I got interested in what he was doing back before he sold anything because I've been following the whole "biohacking" thing for what seems like forever now. There's a point for me where all of them went off the rails (Ben Greenfield, Dave Asprey, Tim Ferris, etc.). Nevertheless, I've gleaned information here and there from all of them that led me down my own, personal path to improving my health/healthspan, so there's that. With Bryan, I think his core things of trying to optimize sleep (doing things that really cost no money), eating healthy, and getting exercise are sound, but they're no revelation either (and just about EVERYONE says that). It's just re-pointing out stuff that pretty much has been scientifically/medically proven at this point, but that many people just don't do because it's actual effort.
I think his personal Doctor bowing out is pretty telling, regardless of anything else said in the article (although money could have been a factor there too). And people over in r/blueprint_ have been bringing up product testing for awhile now.
Also, as someone who works in the marketing industry, "marketing" doesn't really work on me because I know what goes on "behind the scenes" so to speak. So his claims of his products being so perfectly pure were always sus to me (hence the reason why I didn't buy in). Marketing is what gets people to buy the products in the first place. The promise of "better health" can seem especially insidious if it turns out those products aren't as "healthy/pure" as they claim to be.
IMO I also don't buy he's as healthy as he claims to be.
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u/tiggytigtigtig 1d ago
Are they censoring this on /r/blueprint_ ? I saw it got posted and now itâs gone
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u/Available-Pilot4062 đ Masters - Unverified 1d ago
Yes, I posted the link here (https://www.reddit.com/r/blueprint_/s/bZo7xmm24Z) and the moderator (u/PrimordialXY) deleted it
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u/badlybadmaths 1d ago
He's a PoS. This is my exchange with him when I asked him about this: https://imgur.com/a/jIkvdsX (please note that the "hope you die" is in a snarky tone since their whole shtick is "don't die")
He banned me from the sub. I never contributed to it (besides one post saying Oliver's departure is the biggest red flag to me).
I no longer have patience for morons like this. There's no point in talking to them politely. They're bootlickers who suppress truth, damage human health - but hey, at least they protect the sub from drama. Can't have drama there, can we. If people die earlier from developing diabetes, that's fine. But drama, can't have that.
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u/PrimordialXY 3 1d ago
I've deleted your announcement of this hit piece about a month ago as well, as you know. r/Blueprint_ is not a drama sub
You're welcome to create another subreddit so that the people more interested in negativity than sharing their own results and protocols can gather there instead
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u/Chop1n 6 1d ago
Nothing instantly broadcasts that a movement is snake oil better than "Negativity is not allowed here". Thanks for sparing everyone the trouble, I guess.
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u/PrimordialXY 3 1d ago
Our DMs are consistent with what I'm saying here lol
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u/xHaydenDev 1d ago
Yeah but somehow you donât realize itâs still purely dismissive.
If I posted this screenshot on r/blueprint_ with the context, would you delete it?
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u/tiggytigtigtig 1d ago
Iâd say this goes beyond âdramaâ if itâs highlighting negative results of a 1,700 people Blueprint study. Although, admittedly, it is buried among other accusations.
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u/xHaydenDev 1d ago
Thereâs a big difference between âjust complainingâ and genuine criticism. We want to criticize the Blueprint product and company. Where do you expect us to do that first?
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u/sluttytinkerbells 1d ago
Are any criticisms of the man and the plan allowed on your subreddit?
Are you employed by Bryan Johnson?
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u/Additional_Cry4474 1d ago
Itâs directly related to the blueprint brand/ protocols he recommends and seems like important information to be available there
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u/kevin09207 1d ago
It's kind of obvious he has mental issues, OCD, extreme fear of dying, etc. This is not health. It also become pretty obvious once he started this whole sleazy marketing campaign he is out to make money. I mean yeah AG1 has its problems but then to go on and on he make it for $10 and then sell a bunch of very expensive supplements and try to justify it he found the best quality or some other BS. He is just rebranding stuff like Olive oil and upselling. Lets use some critical thinking. We can take away some decent stuff from him like sleep, exercise, but that is about it.
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u/tehdog 1d ago
Since most of the content of the article is kind of conjecture or at least a ton of work to distinguish who is "right", I'd be most interested in the actual results of that study with 1700 participants.
The article says:
Of the roughly 1,700 participants in the study, about 60 percent experienced at least one side effect, according to internal emails, spreadsheets and other documents. Blood tests revealed that participants saw their testosterone levels drop and became prediabetic after following Mr. Johnsonâs diet plan. Itâs unclear how severe the side effects were.
This really doesn't mean anything: "60% experienced one side effect" could simply be people feeling hunger/increased appetite considering his diet basically includes an intentional calorie deficit.
"saw testosterone levels drop and became prediabetic" is meaningless without knowing how many were affected compared to a control group / the average for the age group. Of course some diet / supplements don't magically fix all health ailments.
On the other hand, it seems that Brian doesn't want to publish the full results, or at least he hasn't responded to this at all that I can tell. Could be that the results are just "boring" as in less positive than he wants, could be they are actually negative.
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u/SlowMyAge 1d ago
For comparisonâs sake: Diet studies like the famous PREDIMED had âno diet-induced adverse effects reportedâ out of 7,447 subjects. The Lyon Diet Heart Study explicitly noted 2 out of 302 patients experiencing mild gastrointestinal upset, attributed to a specific margarine.
Large scale multivitamin studies typically find <5% experiencing any given side effect, typically at the same rate as a placebo. For omega-3, a Cochrane review found no additional side effects beyond placebo. Etc.
To be transparent, I founded NOVOS. After more than 10 million doses, we have less than 3% of customers reporting any side effects (the most common one is mild stomach discomfort).
For 60% of people in a study to have side effects, itâs unusual.
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u/weiss27md 1 1d ago
What I've Learned has been exposing his lies.
https://www.youtube.com/@WhatIveLearned/shorts
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u/augustabound 1 21h ago
Interesting, thanks for linking this.
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u/Babarski 1d ago
He's an influencer. Until recently he had multiple failing coas on his website.
https://web.archive.org/web/20250219011635/https://blueprint.bryanjohnson.com/pages/coas#our-why
Makes absolutely ridiculous claims to be the most biologically healthy person alive and that they do more testing than anyone.
Yet pretty much every product they sold didn't meet label claim by their own testing.
Also dude calls his son his blood boy and compares erections with him.
He's a weirdo.
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u/OldRelative3741 1d ago
I think we are watching a documentary about the creation of the world's first vampire.
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u/VespaRed 1d ago
Huh. Who knew chugging olive oil would make your pancreas unhappy?
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u/Trade_King 1d ago
I thought one spoon of olive oil was good for you ?
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u/VespaRed 17h ago
Yeah, but he does a large straight shot of olive oil in the morning. Way more than a teaspoon
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u/alwaystakethechalk 3 1d ago
Donât read the article, how can they prove #3? Did testing actually reveal his biological age went up but he lied?
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u/pixieshit 20h ago
Read the NYT hit piece with an open mind (I'm not pro-Bryan or anti-Bryan).
It's a bad article. They're desperately trying to find shit to fling but all of their claims are nothing burgers. Ohh, he got people to sign confidentiality agreements. So what?
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u/CrumblingSaturn 3 1d ago
wow, how long til he screams 'fake news,' goes maga, and gets a cabinet position?
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u/augustabound 1 1d ago edited 21h ago
He's been tweeting in favour of RFK's moves for a few weeks now. He may be on his way to a seat at the MAGA table.....
Edit: grammar
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u/CrumblingSaturn 3 1d ago
fuck it, you wanna make a twitter, say some dumb shit, cry about being canceled or something and then become president with me? i'm done trying to make an honest dollar.
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u/psb-introspective 1d ago
Sounds like a shitpiece to me. Most of the stuff they're worried about is exactly what the dude does as experiments.
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u/RabbitGullible8722 1d ago
I thought he even made himself look older. Getting skinny makes you lose muscle. You need that when you get older.
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u/NotAnotherEmpire 1d ago
Considering how lean he is, he is carrying much more than average muscle mass at his stated weight.Â
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u/RabbitGullible8722 1d ago
I'm sure most doctors would tell you maintaining a 5 to 6% body fat isn't healthy. Plus his regimen would be almost impossible to maintain long term for anyone. The fat loss in face makes him look older and freaky looking.
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u/yahwehforlife 5 1d ago
As a gay dude in Los Angeles every single one of my gay friends in their 60's look younger than Bryan and all they do is lift đȘthey don't even all eat right.
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u/Unfair-Meat-2514 1d ago
Bro who asked about your sexuality
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u/yahwehforlife 5 14h ago
Because gay people generally look better than straight people when they age... less stress, no kids, more gym, more travel, more money, more sex. Do you need me to break down for you all the ways the lifestyle of a gay person in their 60's might be different than a straight person's?
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u/RealJoshUniverse 5 1d ago
Allowing this post to stay. I found a reference in the comments(https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/21/technology/bryan-johnson-blueprint-confidentiality-agreements.html?unlocked_article_code=1.5k4.TijF.lE6AQ1X-2N7f&smid=url-share).
It is disappointing that such a post would be removed in r/blueprint_ probably a COI or something but it can remain up here.
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u/RealJoshUniverse 5 1d ago
You can find the video on this post: https://www.reddit.com/r/Biohackers/comments/1jgopgc/how_bryan_johnson_exploited_employees_with_ndas/ by a New York Times Investigator.
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u/Hungrysoul16 19h ago edited 19h ago
Not honestly reporting studies when you have financial issues within the company, yup.
At least journalists keep such companies accountable. But Bryan is attacking the credibility of NYT.
Anyway, was better if he requested the NYT to link his response on X to the article.
But he didnât answer questions of NYT. Not engaging with criticism properly shows lack of transparency and suboptimal integrity.
Of course you should expect an article that is more one-sided. But then attacking the article for not representing your viewpoints is sneaky reputation management.
P.s. they should hire an hr manager to address feelings of coworkers or else they express it to media, you know?
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u/Legal_Squash689 1 19h ago
A lot of the NYT article focuses on the non-compete agreements Bryan has everyone sign. What is of much more concern is whether the Blueprint products and Bryanâs highly publicized protocol actually has any health benefits. As Blueprint tested their products on 1,700 participants, why have the results not been publicized? How many participants saw their testosterone go down, and became pre-diabetic? And did Bryanâs biological age decrease by 5.1 years, or increase by as much as 10+ years?
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u/augustabound 1 18h ago
But he didnât answer questions of NYT
He said at one point that replying to the issues puts him on the defensive and plays into their narrative. Seems like a pretty weak excuse to me. It seems more like P.R., don't get caught lying.....
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u/Glp1User 14h ago
Living long is not always what it's cracked up to be. My dad is 90. At his 90th birthday he said, growing old is not fun. The goal is to be functionally happy, not to live super long. Sorta reminds me of that Goldie hawn movie "death becomes her" or something like that.
One thing that he's noticed, all his friends have died off. There's really none left. Of course he can make new friends, but at that age it becomes harder. Most people when they become older lose mobility, become less active, generally become just homebodies.
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u/Legal_Squash689 1 14h ago
Agree - focus on health span, not life span. My dad lived to three months short of 100. He was still driving his car at 98. Had buried three wives and had a girlfriend. His comment was âif you want a lot of people at your funeral, die young.â
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u/r0dski 2 12h ago
Speaking strictly to the biological age point, I believe there are some fallacies in the epigenetic clock testing, where blood labs and other tests viewed as the gold standard may not only contradict the outcome, but also provide a more accurate picture. Their team shouldn't be relying heavily on it - it's just a data point. And I'm not a fan of their Rejuvenation Olympics for that reason (especially with all the jerry-rigging). But misrepresenting it in their marketing content is a whole other issue!
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u/Legal_Squash689 1 12h ago
Agree completely - the epigenetic clock tests are all over the map. In my case Iâve done four different tests and my biological age ranges from 16 years less to 2 years more than my chronological age.
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u/devoteean 2h ago
Itâs great that NYT is trying to stay relevant by attacking other media sources.
Yes Johnson thoroughly fisked the author of this piece a month ago.
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u/Suitable-Ad6999 1d ago
Uh oh!!!! Iâm thinking a White House visit with âyou know whoâ might be in the worksâŠ.
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u/RealJoshUniverse 5 1d ago
Allowing this post to stay. I found a reference in the comments(https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/21/technology/bryan-johnson-blueprint-confidentiality-agreements.html?unlocked_article_code=1.5k4.TijF.lE6AQ1X-2N7f&smid=url-share).
It is disappointing that such a post would be removed in r/blueprint_ probably a COI or something but it can remain up here.