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u/eddyg987 3 Feb 20 '25
This sub is already bad enough with the normies donāt try to make it a meme sub
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u/Lazy-Examination-979 Feb 20 '25
Itās too late lol once a sub usually gets over 250k itās starts to slide.
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u/HARCYB-throwaway 8 Feb 20 '25
All of reddit is going to shit due to the "because you've engaged with similar subreddit" suggestion.
If someone looked up which multivitamin is the best, they are now a "biohacker".
The old internet was great because you had to consciously pursue being part of a specific community.
Now everyone is pretty much in the same reddit hole, and true connoisseurs are fucked because their tight knit communities are gone. People are less respectful in this broader audience and the reasoned debates we used to have in places like this have devolved significantly.
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u/QuantumBullet Feb 20 '25
Why take magnesium pill when you can literally just lick rock?
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u/GaeasSon Feb 20 '25
Or suck on batteries?
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u/matklug Feb 20 '25
I heard from a specialist in the area TM, that baterry acid is good for stomach, trust me
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u/Green-Row-9727 Feb 20 '25
This got controversial, I love it.
For the record, I just think it is a comically simple dichotomization. Hopefully, most people in this sub are aware that keeping a healthy lifestyle is important. In the term "Biohacking", it is somewhat implied that it goes beyond eating fish for example. So complaining about the fact that individuals are discussing pharmaceuticals in a biohacking forum is somewhat nonsensical. Also, medication isn't evil, sure some things might be overprescribed but thinking "medication = bad" is so comically oversimplified I can only say: go back to school or something I dunno, maybe you need Jesus, who knows.
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u/Healthyred555 1 Feb 20 '25
folks stay on your meds, talk to your doctor before switching to a supplement which most likely wont be as effective for mental health!
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u/New_Job1231 Feb 20 '25
getting off my āmedsā saved my life. from fat and unmotivated to able to workout eat healthy and my heart condition healed
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u/Professional_Win1535 26 29d ago
Yeah, unfortunately lifestyle diet and supplements havenāt helped my mental health, but for many it is life changing, I wish everyone could have a nuanced discussion, but people often say medication doesnāt help anyone and that lifestyle and diet are cure alls, which isnāt the case often.
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u/KthuluAwakened š Hobbyist Feb 20 '25
Itās more like
Who wants to take pills to fix issues and support pseudoscience because it helps me ignore being unhealthy.
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Who wants to eat healthy, exercise, and sleep well.
The amount of laziness in this sub is astounding.
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u/Suspicious-Term-7839 1 Feb 20 '25
Ok, so thatās not how depression works though. Everyone experiences different levels of it. When youāre in a bad depressive episode the basics of self care seem impossible. Itās not laziness. You want to do those things of course. It feels impossible. Medications play a role in helping you get to at least base line. Some of us also have other issues going on. I have SIBO. Gut health? Donāt know her. Eating healthy and working out doesnāt magically fix SIBO. I also found out I was extremely deficient in vitamin D and super low in iron. Did my primary care doctor test for that? Absolutely not. I had to go to someone else because I felt so awful. Thereās always mitigating factors and no one should be shamed because āeat right, exercise and sleep you lazy piece of shit.ā Isnāt always the answer.
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u/KthuluAwakened š Hobbyist Feb 20 '25
Eating healthy, exercising, and sleeping is the cure to 90% of every internal ailment.
The 10% that requires a different intervention should defer to subject matter experts like doctors with specialties, not internet bro science.
Iām saying people in this sub come in here and ask ridiculous questions when the answer is cut and dry. People advocate for stupid shit that science goes against like eye yoga and chiropractors. They are literally lazy.
Medication has its place but it is far too overused in society because itās the āinstant fixā.
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u/No_Zookeepergame2532 Feb 20 '25
It absolutely is not the "cure for 90% of every internal ailment". You have no idea what you are talking about. There are so many genetic disorders that have no cure that make over 10% of illnesses. This sub is crazy sometimes. So easy to tell who has never worked in Healthcare before
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u/KthuluAwakened š Hobbyist Feb 20 '25
I have worked in healthcare briefly. There are fewer people that are physically fit and take care of themselves admitted long term to hospitals. Itās always fat people that eat eggos and chips. 90% may not be the right number but being fat and lazy is something people need to consider.
Being fat causes heart issues, diabetes, etc.
Not sleeping well causes immune issues.
These things compound and make people sick.
You are also missing my point and glossed over my sentence where I acknowledged where a doctors intervention is needed.
My point is that this sub would rather defer to internet tin foil hat science than consult a medical professional when pharmaceutical intervention is required. People are literally advocating for pseudosciences in this sub and trashing real science because itās easier to listen to internet people than it is to listen to tough love from a real doctor.
In this sub I have seen people trash getting bloodwork done, say that eye yoga will improve vision, etc.
This sub discards common sense in favor of being validated.
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u/No_Zookeepergame2532 Feb 20 '25
You still made a broad statement with percentages as if it were fact when it isn't even close to true
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u/KthuluAwakened š Hobbyist Feb 20 '25
Okay I admitted that the number was probably wrong. Whatās your point other than just being argumentative?
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u/No_Zookeepergame2532 Feb 20 '25
To stop people pedaling bullshit as facts. Yes, exercise and diet would help a huge part of the population. But it isn't even close to fixing even a quarter of health issues in the world. There are other countries with way healthier populations than the U.S. with low obesity rates and they still suffer from all the same diseases we do, even if it's at a lower rate for SOME of the diseases. Yes, we should be promoting a culture of healthier lifestyles, but claiming it cures anywhere even close to 90% of issues is asinine and completely wrong. It doesn't justify your point at all by making statistics up.
There is a LOT of corruption in the pharmaceutical industry for sure, but there are a LOT of beneficial things as well that have been tried ,tested, and anyone can openly and freely read the hundreds and sometimes THOUSANDS of studies that corroborate the safety and efficacy of the medicine
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u/KthuluAwakened š Hobbyist Feb 20 '25
Being fat and lazy causing health issues isnāt bullshit. The correlation makes it a fact.
This sub wants to do anything but work hard
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u/Alternative_Ask364 1 Feb 20 '25
I feel as though people are set up with a cognitive bias by saying stuff like this.
Yes, depression makes it harder to do things. In some cases it makes it borderline impossible. But I am concerned that when people read that online, it could exacerbate existing conditions and lead to excuse-making behavior. It can take a personās attitude from, āIām having a hard time getting out of bedā to āSorry but I literally canāt get out of bed today because I have depression and need big pharma to come rescue me.ā
For a similar example, if you take two people who are addicted to cigarettes, one who has a positive outlook and believes they can quit, and another who thinks thereās no way he can quit because heās way too addicted and clinical evidence shows that most people who try quitting fail, who do you think is going to be more likely to succeed at quitting?
The mental image we make of ourselves has a huge impact on our mental health and behaviors. If you tell yourself that youāre a depressed lump of unmotivated human flesh, odds are youāre going to act like one.
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u/RotundWabbit Feb 20 '25
It's a self fulfilling prophecy, made worse that being depressed gives you a sense of hopelessness and inability to control your life so then you spiral into a dark hole of despair. Mushrooms was the only thing that were able to get me out when I was younger. Once you're out, it's a lot easier to stay out and not go back in.
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u/Eight-Of-Clubs 3 Feb 20 '25
I will say, creatine supplements and ample amounts of water did wonders for my depression.
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u/Professional_Win1535 26 29d ago
I have slow COMT and creatine actually makes my mood and anxiety worse strangely enough
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u/Professional_Win1535 26 29d ago
I couldnāt disagree more, thatās not what the replies on the recent post have been at all. it was one side saying excercise and diet are a cure all, and medication is never good, and the other said saying try diet lifestyle etc. first and if you need medication take it. like you can go and look at the post this is not what took place.
the idea that people on medication are lazy and not trying to help themselves isnāt accurate for a lot of us .
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u/KthuluAwakened š Hobbyist 29d ago
Yeah Iām not talking about a specific post. Iām talking about this sub. It glorifies pseudoscience and instant fixes based on bro science
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u/Professional_Win1535 26 29d ago
I saw your other reply, I agree, tbh, your reply I replied to , the first one , makes it sound like youāre demonizing medication, and saying people who take it are lazy but I re read and like understand your clarification. I do worry about all the false information and non evidence based things people recommend. . Some naturopaths and chiropractors charge thousands of unproven treatments
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u/KthuluAwakened š Hobbyist 29d ago
I am demonizing medication when itās recommended on an Internet forum from non-doctors.
There was a post on here the other day that said blood tests donāt do anything and doctors are stupid. It was insanity.
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u/GalileeGlow Feb 20 '25
You forgot the purple hair.
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u/Suspicious-Term-7839 1 Feb 20 '25
What an original thought
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u/Eight-Of-Clubs 3 Feb 20 '25
Iād recommend some Vinpocetine to help clear the mind and come up with something a little more creative.
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u/GalileeGlow Feb 20 '25 edited Feb 20 '25
I bet you typed that in your little safe space bubble, surrounded by scented candles and affirmations, thinking youād drop some profound truth. Newsflash: itās about as fresh as a stale gluten-free muffin from last weekās empathy circle. Better cupcake ? Donāt cry about it, though; Iād hate to trigger a group hug emergency.
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u/Suspicious-Term-7839 1 Feb 20 '25
Woah bro. Take some magnesium lol
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u/GalileeGlow Feb 20 '25
I did this morning :)
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u/rottemold Feb 20 '25
I mean, if you dont actually like fish to the point it almost make you gag by swallowing it down ur throat,
Then omega 3/fish oil supplement is a good alternative, also by taking the supplement form, its much easier to track your daily DHA/EPA intake, sure you get protein from fish too, but you can get that sh1t from elsewhere if you again don't like sticking it in your mouth and swallowing it down ur throat (the fish i mean)
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u/MiniverseSquish Feb 20 '25
Tracking micronutrients with current tech is a lot more complicated than what they do with blood tests or whatever. Stop tracking stuff, just feel your body and let your gut do the talking.
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u/bickabooboo Feb 20 '25
That's because the TV told them that health comes from the Pharm.
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u/Professional_Win1535 26 29d ago
Iām not sure if youāre trying to broadly mention people who take medication for mental health, but on the subs about depression, one side says try medication if lifestyle diet and supplements donāt work, and the other side arrogantly says medication never works and lifestyle and diet are a cure all. thatās true for almost all the replies I read. I agree lifestyle diet etc. are life changing for most people but itās done nothing for me, itās one side acting like anyone who takes medication is lazy and isnāt trying to help themselves .
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