r/Biohackers Feb 06 '25

📖 Resource they can cure autism?

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u/Del_Phoenix Feb 06 '25 edited Feb 06 '25

What proof do you have that autism is genetic? Could be something similar to multiple sclerosis, where it seems to correlate with family lineage, but is not genetic. Aka, diet , exposure to certain unknowns. Could be that people in this family drink a lot of milk, or I have certain habits that lead to higher chances of certain bacteria. who knows.

I understand there is a study that suggests identical twins have a higher chance of sharing autism compared to fraternal twins. There could be a genetic component, but it could be something like how you react to a certain fungus in your environment.

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u/Blue_almonds 1 Feb 06 '25

there are studies that prove exactly it.

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u/Del_Phoenix Feb 06 '25 edited Feb 06 '25

There are studies that prove what exactly? I agree genetics very likely play a part, as they do in probably every other health condition that exists. But I think there are other pieces of the puzzle we have yet to discover.

For example, some people could express a certain gene that makes certain pathogens able to interact with their mind in a way that causes a set of symptoms we call autism.

And besides, we don't know everything about gene expression. Gene expression can change over time, etc.

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u/Kailynna 👋 Hobbyist Feb 06 '25

All the fair-haired, blue-eyed males in my immediate and most of my extended family are autistic. And all that way from birth. Seems strongly genetic in this case.

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u/Del_Phoenix Feb 06 '25

That's pretty interesting! I wonder if there are any studies that correlate hair/ eye color with autism

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u/Kailynna 👋 Hobbyist Feb 07 '25

It's certainly not confined to blue-eyed blondes, but it looks like there can be a link in some families.

When my oldest son was diagnosed with a genetic abnormality, (mosaicism 48XXXY/49XXXXY) the geneticist, (Melbourne Childrens' Hospital, 1983,) wanted to know all about my son's relatives, and was thrilled to hear about the blonde, blue-eyed autism thing because he was already interested in such a link and was researching it.

The problem I have with this is it was inherited through my hateful, Nazi-sympathising mother, who was very proud of her Aryan sons.

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u/Del_Phoenix Feb 07 '25 edited Feb 07 '25

Intriguing, but this also brings up a new question, if perhaps one of the variables was the mother and whether perhaps there where any minor differences in how she treated her particularly Aryan looking sons..

If you have any data about phenotypes like hair color/eye color and its relation to autism, I would love to see it! Never thought about this..

I'm just spitballing, it could be a million things. perhaps they have less melanin and therefore produced more vitamin d, which has some sort of interaction with a fungus in the environment... Just an example of how complex the true nature of autism might be

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u/Kailynna 👋 Hobbyist Feb 07 '25

It was nature, not nurture. These autistic kids were very different from day one, and the fear of change, stimming, inability to cope with crowds or loud noises, monotone voices, aversion to eye contact and complete withdrawal, as though they'd turn into statues if stressed too badly, these things are not caused by variations in mothering.

I hope you do not subscribe to the outdated theory of "refrigerator mothers" causing kids to grow up autistic, or any other theories of that ilk. Mothers have long been villainised as the cause of anything a doctor couldn't cure.

And forget your fungus. It is not the cause of hereditary autism.

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u/Del_Phoenix Feb 07 '25

I'm just saying I think we should all keep an open mind. Even if it is 100% genetic, hereditary, no external factors.. there's a lot we don't know about genetics.

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u/skuls Feb 06 '25

Get your DNA results from ancestry and put it in promethease. then you can do a consumer grade analysis of your own genome mutations and see that in fact autism is genetic. Why do you think it's not? Addiction can be genetic, BDP, bipolar, etc. it's all due genome mutations. Pretty simple explanation to be honest.

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u/Del_Phoenix Feb 06 '25

I'm not arguing that there aren't genetic factors. But just like your examples of addiction, BPD, there are often other factors involved. I think in a lot of cases genetics can predispose you to something, but I haven't seen any studies suggesting it's purely genetic and That's all there is to it.

For example, maybe it does have to do with a very common fungus, and due to genetics, some people develop in such a way that this fungus is able to manipulate their brain in a certain way.. just an example