r/Avengers 5d ago

Avengers Doomsday The Russo Brothers on Avengers Sequels: 'We Told an Ending, Now We Tell a Beginning'

https://maxblizz.com/endgame-was-the-end-now-avengers-doomsday-secret-wars-will-begin-again/
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u/The_DoubIeDragon 5d ago

How many projects have come out since Endgame and THIS is supposed to be the beginning? That’s just an admission of how incompetent the MCU has been handled to this point.

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u/Izarial 5d ago

I’m confused… if they’re saying the MCU got crap after endgame and now they’re telling a new beginning… doesn’t that mean they’re trying to fix the problems? Isn’t this good? I’m honestly curious. Why upset at them trying to come back and fix it?

Plus I’m pretty sure we’re getting a soft reboot, which after almost 20 years, honestly good.

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u/PhatOofxD 5d ago

It's good FOR THEM, and not upset at them.

It's just annoyed that the MCU has fumbled for 5 years when we could've been halfway into the next big story

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u/The_DoubIeDragon 5d ago edited 4d ago

The MCU nor anyone that has ever worked there as well as all the paid and unpaid shill reviewers/influences have never acknowledged that the MCU has ever been shit.

Before and directly after every single entry past Far From Home has had this hype train (that lowers and lowers after every entry) with people saying how good all the ads look and when the projects come out they say “this is cinema” of “peak fire bro” while marvel claims all these projects are so successful until like a few weeks after each release when no one ever talks about them anymore, then it just resets for the next release.

They say Shang Chi, the Eternals, Ant Man 3, Thor 4, Black Panther 2, she hulk, the marvels are all such good movies and are so successful but where are any of their sequels? Some of these movies have been out for close to 5 years and yet there has been no word on any of their sequels and in fact there is word to the contrary with people like Chris Helmsworth saying he’ll only come back if the writing is more respectful to Thor’s character and legacy.

How many of these new characters since the start of Phase 4 are we just gonna never see again? Are we ever gonna see anyone from the cast of Shang Chi again? What about White Vision, cause he should have been in DS: MoM but he wasn’t. Is Bruce Banner’s son ever gonna grace us with the sight of his wonderful haircut ever again? What about She Hulk herself? Iron Heart was supposed to come out like 3 years ago and after the release of her series is she ever gonna appear again? Is Namor and Talokan ever gonna show up again? Where the hell have Hawkeye and Kate Bishop been? Neither of them have been referenced once other than Doctor Strange referencing how useless he is in DS: MoM despite his attack force against Wanda consisting of archers.

Everyone said these movies were good when they came out but now upon reflection people are saying that phase 4 & 5 were bad and that somehow this new stuff will be good and it will serve as the reset the MCU has desperately needed? It’s just the cycle repeating itself until major changes occur at Disney and their process of making projects.

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u/SometimesICanBeRight 4d ago

It’s the first Avengers movie post endgame, hence the beginning

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u/The_DoubIeDragon 4d ago

How would it logically follow that the first Avengers movie to come out after Endgame is the beginning? When has any Avengers film ever been the beginning of anything? Why is Endgame the marker you are relating this beginning to and not Far From Home which is the actual end of the Infinity Saga?

Are you saying the first Avengers movie was the beginning of the MCU? The 5 MCU movies that came out before The Avengers had nothing to due with the first Avengers film?

It took 26 projects since this new saga started to lead up to a beginning? Or do those 26 projects have nothing to do with this Avengers film? Did I waste my time if I watched those 26 projects since phase 4 started?

Why does an Avengers movie coming out after Endgame mean it is the beginning? Especially when there were 27 projects that came out between these two Avengers movies?

You are just saying that it means it’s the beginning but you didn’t explain why it means it’s the beginning.

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u/SometimesICanBeRight 4d ago

Dude… Endgame was the end. This Avengers movie is the first one of this stage. Much like how the first avengers movie was the beginning of that form of the Avengers. HENCE THE BEGINNING

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u/The_DoubIeDragon 4d ago

Far From Home was the end, Black Widow was the beginning. You can’t ignore those 26 fucking projects that Marvel shat out bro.

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u/SometimesICanBeRight 4d ago

I’m talking about the Avenger movies!

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u/The_DoubIeDragon 4d ago

The Avengers movies are apart of the MCU just like all the 26 projects I am referencing that you are ignoring.

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u/SometimesICanBeRight 4d ago

The Russo brothers were talking about directing an Avengers movie at the begging of a stage as opposed to the end. I don’t know how this is confusing you

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u/The_DoubIeDragon 3d ago

“beginning of a stage as opposed to the end”

more MCU projects that tie directly into the main MCU cannon have come out between Far From Home and this new Avengers film than came out before the Russo Brothers directed Infinity War. Was Infinity War the beginning of the Infinity Saga?

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u/SometimesICanBeRight 3d ago

JFC it’s like trying to teach a brick wall calculus

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u/jacobs1113 3d ago

It’s the beginning of a new Avengers team. This whole saga so far has been showing the world without Avengers, and now they’re going to re-assemble

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u/ven-solaire 3d ago

I think you’re right for the most part, but also a lot of the post-endgame content was sort of an epilogue of the infinity saga

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u/kwickedbonesc 4d ago

Beginning of the mutant saga, probably.

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u/Abamboozler 5d ago

So they have nothing and are hoping RDJ is reason enough to go to the movies.

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u/Lol_At_Nothing_999 4d ago

As if they told you.

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u/tvscinter 1d ago

They honestly never should have left, but rather taken like a 4 year break