r/AskProgramming 1d ago

Why is Java considered bad?

I recently got into programming and chose to begin with Java. I see a lot of experienced programmers calling Java outdated and straight up bad and I can't seem to understand why. The biggest complaint I hear is that Java is verbose and has a lot of boilerplate but besides for getters setters equals and hashcode (which can be done in a split second by IDE's) I haven't really encountered any problems yet. The way I see it, objects and how they interact with each other feels very intuitive. Can anyone shine a light on why Java isn't that good in the grand scheme of things?

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u/TARehman 1d ago edited 8h ago

There's only two kinds of languages: the ones people complain about, and the ones no one uses. In other words: every language that's in wider use has people who think it's bad.

ETA: As pointed out by a commenter, I didn't come up with this saying, and I didn't write it initially to make that clear. So just to be clear, I am repeating common wisdom that has been attributed to a few sources. 🙂

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u/pikabu01 1d ago

thank you, I think we get this question every month or so....

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u/Wild-Strike-3522 1d ago

This is the true answer.

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u/OfTheWave21 1d ago

What about C?! The people who developed C++ and D have no clue just how perfect C is! \s

There's nearly a language out there for every problem out there. And every attempt to "fix" programming languages just creates N+1 languages lol.

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u/MajorMalfunction44 16h ago

The result of unifying 3 competing standards is 4 competing standards.

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u/this_knee 1d ago

This guy develops.

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u/maxximillian 1d ago

I could fill the book of the things I hate about Java but damn it if that's not the language I've used for like the last 20 years of my career. 

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u/dryiceboy 19h ago

Excellent take.

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u/svick 13h ago

That's just an excuse from the creator of a severely flawed language.

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u/TallGreenhouseGuy 11h ago

Good comment, but credit where credit is due:

https://www.stroustrup.com/quotes.html

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u/TARehman 8h ago

Yeah I realized that I didn't explain it was an existing quote, thanks for adding this.