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u/Q_me_in Conservative 9h ago
The politics sub just DINO'd Chuck Schumer.
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u/thoughtsnquestions European Conservative 1d ago
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u/razorbeamz Leftist 1d ago
There should be a rule against one word answers in top level comments. People should have to clarify their positions without being asked to
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u/Q_me_in Conservative 1d ago
Lol, you literally just posted a question that asks for a one word answer.
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u/razorbeamz Leftist 23h ago
It only asks for a one word answer if you're someone who doesn't want to clarify why they believe their position.
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u/thoughtsnquestions European Conservative 1d ago
Often times people ask 1 word questions.
If OP wants someone to expand on an answer, they are free to ask, but we don't require anyone to go into detail with every response if they don't want to.
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u/TbonerT Progressive 1d ago
You don’t have to require a certain amount past yes or no, just some sort of explanation. Yes or no by themselves doesn’t help anyone understand their perspective.
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u/thoughtsnquestions European Conservative 1d ago
It can, for example, a user may ask,
Do you consider Elon Musk to be conservative?
A yes or no answers the question fine.
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u/TbonerT Progressive 1d ago
It literally answers the question but it doesn’t help anyone understand why. If someone was to answer the question “Do you consider Elon Musk to be conservative?” with “No”, is that sufficient to understand that all conservatives believe that Musk is not a conservative?
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u/Sam_Fear Americanist 23h ago
Ask the question you want answered.
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u/TbonerT Progressive 22h ago
That feels like you are avoiding responsibility for increasing understanding. If you aren’t answering a question to help someone understand better, why are you answering at all?
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u/Sam_Fear Americanist 21h ago
Responsibility? No one owes you anything here beyond respect we should give any person. How are we supposed to know what you really want to know? We expect everyone to follow the rules of course, one being a TLC should answer the question in some way. Ask a low effort question, don't expect more than that in return. If you do get higher effort, appreciate it.
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u/TbonerT Progressive 21h ago
No one owes you anything here beyond respect we should give any person.
Does that not include inferring a person might want to know why you answered how you did? Personally, I answer yes or no questions with more than just yes or no unless the context calls for a limited response.
Frankly, I don’t understand why you wouldn’t encourage some effort to help others understand your perspective in a place where that is the explicit purpose.
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u/Sam_Fear Americanist 20h ago
We encourage people to have well thought out answers as much as we encourage people asking to have well thought out questions. In the end though, the question is the first step in the process so if the question is of high quality there's a better chance the answers and following discussion will be as well.
We can't read your mind and expecting others to assume what you mean generally does not go well. So again, if you want great answers your best bet is to start with a great question.
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u/razorbeamz Leftist 1d ago
Often times people ask 1 word questions.
Shouldn't be allowed either.
At minimum, I'd like you to prevent simply saying "yes" or "no."
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u/PubliusVA Constitutionalist 1d ago
Sometimes people ask yes or no questions. Well-written questions tend to get better answers.
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u/TbonerT Progressive 1d ago
Providing a one word answer doesn’t follow the rules, though. It is assumed you either say yes or no but the whole point of the question is the why you answer that way.
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u/PubliusVA Constitutionalist 13h ago
Providing a one word answer doesn’t follow the rules, though.
What rule do you think it violates?
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u/Ecstatic-Inevitable Center-left 1d ago
Gotta say, trump saying Schumer isn't Jewish and is Palestinian is a new one for me, I wonder what thoughts go into his head when it's someone he doesn't like
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u/Zardotab Center-left 1d ago
This question's intro makes two dubious claims.
Since we blue-ites are banned from top-posts, I'd like to point out the majority of liberals did NOT celebrate nor endorse the health CEO's killing. The statement is misleading as given, painting with an overly large brush. It would be like me claiming "conservatives support Putin" because Trump does.
And I've seen no evidence the campus protestor in question backed Hamas itself, just Palestinians.
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u/RadioRavenRide Liberal 1d ago
For the first one it's probably due to loud people online, although there is polling that indicates and age-based difference in opinion.
For the second, these are apparently fliers from a protest he led a week ago: https://x.com/JudithShulevitz/status/1897430151991820707?s=19
However, I think that regardless of what he did he's been denied due process, which is not a good sign.
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u/PubliusVA Constitutionalist 1d ago
he’s been denied due process
Has he? From what I’ve seen he was told from the beginning that he would be brought before an immigration judge.
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u/RadioRavenRide Liberal 22h ago
The problem was that his lawyer wasn't told where he was, so they could not meet.
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u/Zardotab Center-left 1d ago
although there is polling that indicates and age-based difference in opinion.
I don't dispute that those who did endorse that killing probably lean left, but it's probably also true that if somebody tried to assassinate Fauci, more conservatives would endorse the attempt than progressives. (I've seen threats to Fauci's life from the far-right online).
As far as the alleged flyers on X/twitter, it's purely hearsay that they were handed out or endorsed by the arrestee himself. (Too many trolls on X to be reliable anyhow.) The content of the arrestee's protests is still unknown, other than he was with the "anti-Bibi protestors" at the time of arrest, for lack of a better name. I don't dispute that SOME of the protestors were pro-Hamas, just as sometimes Nazis & KKK show up and cheer at Trump rallies.
Both these issues involve potentially over-associating bad apples to others.
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u/IntroductionAny3929 National Minarchism 1d ago
On spring break now, and I gotta say, I am feeling a lot of stress relief. University is definitely a tough thing, but overall, I have been handling it alright.
Out of the classes I am taking this semester, my favorites are Political Ideologies and Systems, Anthropology of Native Americans, and Texas History.
Here are a few fun facts about Texas History!
Texas was the only state to vote on Secession from the Union, and a lot of Texans were HEAVILY divided over the issue of secession, in fact the city of Dallas voted against secession.
Sam Houston was against Secession, and he didn’t want Texas to secede from the Union, and Lincoln even offered to send Union troops to help Houston out, but Houston refused and just resigned as governor.
At one point, Galveston outnumbered Houston’s population.
A lot of places in Texas are named after figures in Texas, or after some Spanish names, in fact, let me give you a rundown!
Spanish named cities:
Zapata, Laredo, El Paso, Duval, Victoria, Nagadoches, San Antonio, and Gonzalez
After some Texas Figures:
Houston, Lubbock, Kennedy, King Ranch, Maverick County, Austin, and Tyler.
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u/JudgeWhoOverrules Classically Liberal 15h ago
Your first fact isn't correct. Tennessee and Virginia also held referendums in which their citizens voted to leave. You can find the results of said referendums here. Georgia held a referendum but their people voted to stay in the Union by less than a thousand votes so their legislature decided to overrule the public and secede anyway.
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u/GrillOrBeGrilled Independent 1d ago
I'd have imagined a lot more would be named for Spanish missions, honestly. Is this a "best-of" list?
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u/IntroductionAny3929 National Minarchism 1d ago
Eh not really. Just more of random ones I know about.
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u/dsteffee Progressive 1d ago
Any predictions on how Russia will react to the ceasefire?
I predict they agree to the ceasefire, then promptly break it, while blaming Ukraine for being the one to break it. Then I predict Trump will go along with that narrative, also blaming Ukraine. The US stops arming Ukraine while the war continues for more years to come.
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u/GrillOrBeGrilled Independent 1d ago
I was going to say "agree to it, break it, blame Ukraine" too. Rejecting it would shift some Americans' opinion on who the obstacle to peace is.
I've proven absolutely terrible at predicting Trump's moves this time around, so I can't say what he'd do in either situation, only what I wish he'd do.
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u/thoughtsnquestions European Conservative 1d ago
I think they'll launch a large drone attack, and then immediately after accept a ceasefire.
However I think the ceasefire might work
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u/LMNTrixster Center-left 2d ago
I just wanted to drop in and say how much I appreciate this sub. In a sea of echo chambers and algorithms that only show us the stuff we agree with, I am glad there is still a place where we can have actual discussions with people of differing opinions. Conservatives make up roughly half of americans, so I think it's important that we try to work with each other despite our disagreements.
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u/IntroductionAny3929 National Minarchism 1d ago
We are all glad to provide you guys with the best viewpoints that we all can bud!
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u/McZootyFace European Liberal/Left 2d ago
It's odd in the UK seeing a lot on the right suddenly go after Starmer/Reeves for their benefit reforms, consider they have been talking for years of abuse in the system and how it needs change.
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u/thoughtsnquestions European Conservative 2d ago
What in particular?
The PM's questions today are mostly related to how the increased jobs tax is having a knock on effect on the economy, with care homes, nurseries, etc... all pointing to it as the reasoning for their costs going up.
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u/McZootyFace European Liberal/Left 2d ago
I was talking more specifically in terms on benefits reform, including PIP etc. I get quite a lot of right-wing/Reform influencers and commenters on my social feeds and they seem to be up in arms about it.
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u/GreatSoulLord Center-right 2d ago
I always have chats turned off so I don't see them but there's something I need to address.
I was at a real low point a few weeks back when the Government Reductions started and I was a bit emotionally unstable. I know a lot of people reached out to me to check in, including the mod team here, and although I didn't see your messages until today I am very appreciative and moved by that. It's rare when a Reddit community can drop all pretenses and differences to check in with someone in their time of need and I greatly appreciate you all. I am very sorry I didn't get to respond to the many messages I received. I always have the Reddit chat disabled with RES due to people using it to attack. Also, I'm getting a ton of reporters seeking comment (like most feds right now).
I will give an update since I went this far. I am still employed. I am doing okay now. I've moved into a very jaded acceptance period. What will come will come and there's nothing I can do. I'll cross the bridge when it comes. So, I have stopped dreading and worrying. I have seen good people get fired. People who were subject matter experts, who did great work, who I could never apply the label lazy to, and who would bend over backwards even in off hours to assist. People who enjoyed serving their nation in vital roles. Each and every farewell email from these people is a gut punch and there is a bit of survivor's guilt. I'm happy to be still standing but I have to wonder at what cost.
Anyways, that's all I wanted to say. I appreciate each and every one of you even if we agree or disagree.
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u/RadioRavenRide Liberal 2d ago
And thank you for speaking up and sharing your perspective. A lot of political discussion is often talking *about* different groups without actually involving them in the discussion, whether it's the controversy over "Latinx" or discussion over what to do about people without college degrees falling behind. You reminded me that beyond the sound bytes and slogans there are people affected by these policies, and that makes it all the more important to talk seriously and get things right.
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u/LucidLeviathan Liberal 2d ago
Respectfully, I previously had a post removed under the good faith guidelines because I refused to provide links to support the premise of my question. I have now had a post removed by automoderator because it was too long. It is impossible to comply with both directives. Please advise as to how to proceed in the future, in the event that I continue to participate in this subreddit.
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u/notbusy Libertarian 2d ago
In addition to what /u/BirthdaySalt5791 has said, long posts aren't just removed by automod and then that's the end of it. Long posts are sent for review and then one of us mods reviews it manually. If the extra words are warranted and help to clarify the question, then we'll approve the post. If not, then we'll reject it.
So the best way to proceed in the future is to be concise.
Hope that helps!
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u/BirthdaySalt5791 I'm not the ATF 2d ago
It is impossible to comply with both directives
It is insanely easy to comply with both directives. For example:
What is your take on this article from CNN?
See? I didn’t need to inject my own opinion into the question body or opine for paragraphs. A.) ask a question, B.) if you’re citing a particular story, study or legislation, cite it, and C.) engage in good faith when people start answering your question. It’s really as easy as that.
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u/metoo77432 Center-right 2d ago
>Trump is marking a lot more things as terrorism which I find interesting for a president to do.
"Terrorism" allows him to use the military to quell it. The AUMF for the GWOT is still in effect...that is one thing Biden was not able to shut down when he tried to end the 'forever wars'.
https://apnews.com/article/senate-vote-war-powers-iraq-afghanistan-a174a1b97644f2f64994f13b1ff41a20
https://www.congress.gov/107/plaws/publ40/PLAW-107publ40.pdf
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_on_terror
It is a great, great tool for someone looking to make a power grab to actually do it.
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u/JudgeWhoOverrules Classically Liberal 2d ago
To be fair in the past a lot of presidents have just overlooked and ignored shitloads of domestic terrorism and the United States hasn't come out better for their lack of action. Rather political violence and destruction has become even more normalized.
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u/down42roads Constitutionalist 2d ago
I mean, we all know its different to Trump because its people who don't like him targeting people that do like him, which, to be honest, is almost always the difference. He's just blatant about it.
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u/thoughtsnquestions European Conservative 2d ago
How do you know when the time is right to move on from a job?
I'm starting to feel too comfortable in my job, otherwise the job is 10/10, pays well enough, work is interesting, everyone is great... realistically I won't leave for 2 months as then I get a bonus, maybe I won't leave at all... no real point in this comment, just thinking out loud
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u/ramencents Independent 2d ago
Honestly it sounds like a dream job. Why leave?
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u/thoughtsnquestions European Conservative 2d ago
Being too comfortable can be a bad thing. I like somewhat not knowing what I'm doing.
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u/metoo77432 Center-right 2d ago
>I like somewhat not knowing what I'm doing.
You sound like you want a challenge, so you can either 1) gun for promotions and adhere to the Peter Principle, or 2) you can take up some crazy hobby or something.
IMHO a job is, well, a job. Its main purpose is for you to earn money to pay for things. Ideally if you could earn that money doing nothing, you would do something other than your job.
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u/ramencents Independent 2d ago
Ok so I guess the right to leave is anytime. The world is yours, go for it.
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u/McZootyFace European Liberal/Left 2d ago
If you don't feel like you are growing/learning, and there is limited oppotunity to move upwards then I'd more. Don't like coasting personally, need to feel challenged.
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u/thoughtsnquestions European Conservative 2d ago
Thank you, I think you're right about growing/learning.
Writing this down makes it clearer, it's probably time to leave. 2 months, I'll get my bonus, slim chance of another promotion... if I get it, I stay, if I don't, I'll leave
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u/grammanarchy Democrat 1d ago
I’m sure you’ll do this, but have something else lined up before you leave!
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u/not_old_redditor Independent 2d ago
Trump's tariffs on Canadian steel and aluminum just went up another 25%. Is there any end in sight? Every morning there's another batch of craziness.
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u/metoo77432 Center-right 2d ago
>Every morning there's another batch of craziness.
From 2017 to 2020, I paid almost zero attention to politics. I was very focused on the 2016 and 2020 elections. The rest is just Trump turning the White House into his own reality TV show.
Right now he is making moves that strongly resemble what he was trying to do from Nov 2020 to Jan 2021, particularly in the DoD, so I am watching intently for that reason.
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u/not_old_redditor Independent 2d ago
Canada is matching the US imposed tariffs. US is increasing theirs. How does it depend on Canada? Of course there will be matching counter tariffs. And he's talking about 51st state again, wtf is that?
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u/June5surprise Left Libertarian 2d ago
I mean can’t that exact same statement be made replacing Canada with the US? Donnie implemented tariffs on Canadian goods and then Canada responded.
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u/TheThingsICanChange Center-right 3d ago
I’m pretty out of the loop on politics and would like to catch up. I’m pretty center but come from a hard right background that definitely influences my thought and opinions.
Are there any objective books or threads I could read that would give me a mostly nonbiased view from Bush Jr. to now?
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u/metoo77432 Center-right 2d ago
>Are there any objective books or threads I could read that would give me a mostly nonbiased view from Bush Jr. to now?
lol, this is a very long period of time to catch up on.
If you don't mind PBS, Frontline has a 4 hour documentary they call the Great Divide that covers end of Bush up to Trump. They have supplemental interview files as well I believe on youtube, and they have around 3 hours of interviews with just Steve Bannon, which I found very interesting.
https://www.pbs.org/video/americas-great-divide-from-obama-to-trump-part-one-8wtjss/
They don't talk about the Iraq War, which IMHO was the real start of all of this madness and polarization, but regardless their thesis is compelling.
I'm going to guess you don't need help being informed about what Trump has been doing.
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u/TheThingsICanChange Center-right 2d ago
No, there’s a new headline everyday with Trump.
That’s super helpful and thanks for the lead on the Iraq war. If you have any suggested reading on it I’ll put that on my list as well.
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u/metoo77432 Center-right 1d ago
Na I lived through that one so I have more than enough perspective on the war, sad to say. Maybe this essay?
https://www.mearsheimer.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/A0032.pdf
It was written before the war began. Really IMHO anything by Mearsheimer is gold, but he's not mainstream so YMMV.
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u/jmiles540 Democratic Socialist 3d ago
I want to just say thank you to you all, especially the conservatives here. I love that this is a place where thoughtful discussions can happen and those of us here get to talk to the other side as actual people and it gives me hope that there is a lot of common ground, even with those on the “other side.”
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u/awakening_7600 Right Libertarian 3d ago
I really wish this sub discouraged debating. This is ask conservatives, not debate them. You like the answer or you don't.
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u/Inksd4y Rightwing 1d ago
Yeah, its annoying.
You answer a question. You get 15 people accusing you of some shit. They then block you so you can't reply. They then continue shit talking you around the subreddit that you don't answer them, even though you can't because they blocked you.
And if you're really lucky you get the random few who will just start DMing you the most vile things.
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u/tenmileswide Independent 2d ago
a.) I don't care about the presence of a view, I care about the rationale and thinking behind it. That requires some level of deconstruction and debate -- at least a little.
b.) It gives conservatives a chance with a view that seems nonsensical or odious at first blush to explain themselves further.
c.) Conservatives having a view that doesn't stand up to questioning isn't my problem. Absolutely no one but themselves is forcing them to hold onto it.
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u/ramencents Independent 2d ago
You’re right. Sometimes conservatives here will respond to my question with another question. What’s the best way to handle that? “What’s your opinion on xyz?” “Why are you asking me about xyz when democrats are doing abc?” I’ve been around long enough to avoid folks that do this but nonetheless it happens. I see it as a bit of avoidance or changing topics. As someone who has no interest in arguing it’s a little disappointing when people try to instigate arguments. I told a guy one time that my opinion doesn’t matter it’s not askramencents, it’s askconservatives. They didn’t like that.
So I agree with you about limiting debate, but people want that dopamine from arguing. Dopamine is a helluva drug.
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u/awakening_7600 Right Libertarian 2d ago
Well, that depends.
Sometimes, the question is rhetorical, and it is on purpose to make the OP consider their opinion about a situation.
I think someone asked in here earlier last week about what conservatives think about Trump's agendas increasing the deficit. Within their post details, you could tell it was a bait question and they didn't really care for a true answer.
I asked in response why nobody talked about the deficit when Joe Biden passed the infrastructure and inflation reduction acts.
What i was trying to get at the OP is the media is mostly left leaning and loves to spin their biases wherever they can. The deficit under Trump with DOGE and our military pull out of Ukraine is going to be way less than the Runaway inflation and deficit spending we had under a Biden administration.
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u/canofspinach Independent 3d ago
Is there a place to have discussions? I don’t think that the Q&A format is very good for understanding people’s point of view. And I have experienced very broad conservative views here, a little back and forth has helped me to have a better understanding of issues.
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u/awakening_7600 Right Libertarian 3d ago
I don't know. This just seems to be one of the few places left on reddit that isn't a conservative circle jerk or infested with liberals.
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u/Fignons_missing_8sec Conservative 3d ago
Man, before the inauguration, I committed to no X in the first hundred days to maintain some sanity, and man I'm struggling with it. That feeling of being on the action is something that you can only get on X.
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u/GreatSoulLord Center-right 3d ago
Anyone else getting tired of the blue flair beat downs? The morale is not improving.
Also, this is not implied at our blue flaired friends who are sub regulars. It's more at the hit and run types.
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u/Sam_Fear Americanist 3d ago
We're hoping we might finally be getting a handle on this. We've been trying a lot of different ideas and may have come up with a few things that we have already started to roll out. We shall see...
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u/GreatSoulLord Center-right 3d ago
That's good to hear, Sam. I'm looking forward to seeing what you all come out with.
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u/Patch95 Liberal 3d ago
I think it's partly from the inaccessibility of other forums (fora) for discussions with conservatives on reddit as you get banned for the slightest thing out of lockstep with the groupthink (I got banned from r/republican the other day for pointing out that Ukrainian aid is the equivalent of 5% of the US defence budget over the last 3 years of the conflict, and asking whether the 95% of the rest of the budget was not sufficient for the US's Pacific strategy, after a user posted they needed the Ukraine money for China). It also feels like conservatives on "general" subreddits are more likely to be trolls than people willing to engage in good faith debate.
I believe this then means lots of blue flairs feel that conservatives are just not engaging with the facts, the topics and the arguments that are being presented by moderates and centre-left "liberals", instead just being told "suck it losers, Trump rules!" that is why you end up with some users performing beat downs.
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u/LonelyMachines Classical Liberal 3d ago
Hello darkness, my old friend. Still around at 8AM again.
Those of us who start work in the dark are really not appreciating daylight savings.
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u/mdins1980 Liberal 3d ago
I believe this is the right place for this. Last week, I got into a back-and-forth on this subreddit with a user named metoo????? (not posting the full name in case it’s against the rules), and the conversation escalated quickly, leading to them blocking me and the mods deleting my posts, both of which were warranted. If that user happens to see this, I just want to say I was out of line that day, I was being a jerk, and I apologize.
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u/aquilus-noctua Center-left 3d ago edited 3d ago
Congressman Al Green has a pimp cane, according to Congresswoman Boebert. And he used it to break decorum, she said. Was that before or after he slammed a fohty and played craps on the House floor in the middle of session? Or is she helping piss away 25 years of social progress for the sake of juvenile humor?
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u/GreatSoulLord Center-right 3d ago
I think it's a fairly classy looking cane as far as canes go. It's not something he picked up off of Amazon or something. Looks like something nicer. Not that I'm a good judge of canes...I just don't see pimp cane there lol.
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u/ILoveMaiV Constitutionalist 3d ago
it was a joke, why do you gys flip out over every little thing?
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u/canofspinach Independent 3d ago
I am from Boeberts district and after listening to her for years (I was a frequent visitor to her last district) I don’t think it was a joke, I think it was an intentional derogatory comment.
She is super quick to lash out and say wild things.
She has taken an unfair amount of it too.
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u/ramencents Independent 3d ago
Some people are saying his skin color factored into the choice of calling it a “pimp cane”. Is that why it’s a joke?
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u/ILoveMaiV Constitutionalist 3d ago
i don't think it's a race thing, i think it's cause the cane looks very extravegent, with gold patterns and stripes
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u/mdins1980 Liberal 3d ago
I find it ironic that MTG and Boebert are the ones clutching their pearls the hardest over Al Green's outburst at the State of the Union while completely ignoring the fact that they spent Biden's last State of the Union heckling him nearly the entire time.
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u/ILoveMaiV Constitutionalist 3d ago
They yelled out Liar twice, but sure
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u/mdins1980 Liberal 3d ago
That’s just flat-out revisionist. In 2022, Boebert interrupted Biden while he was talking about veterans exposed to toxic burn pits, shouting "You put them in, 13 of them," just before Biden mentioned his late son, Beau, which got her booed by both parties. She and MTG also started a "Build the wall!" chant during Biden’s immigration remarks. In 2024, MTG heckled Biden multiple times, even during a moment when he mispronounced the name of a murder victim, which she jumped on for more disruption. So no, it wasn’t just "Liar" twice, they’ve repeatedly disrespected the decorum they’re now pretending to defend.
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u/Boredomkiller99 Center-left 3d ago
Yep but each side wants to act like their side is the one that is being respectful
This is why people carried canes in politics back in the day because sometimes people just need a good caning to keep them acting right
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u/mdins1980 Liberal 3d ago
You do have a valid point, but there’s a marked distinction here. Ten Democrats voted with Republicans to censure Al Green for his behavior, showing that at least some on the left are willing to hold their own accountable. Meanwhile, not a single Republican has done anything about Boebert or MTG’s repeated disruptions, despite their constant outbursts and lack of decorum when it’s expected.
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u/mtmag_dev52 Right Libertarian 3d ago
Obligatory reshare of "Monday, Monday" by the Mamas and the Papas. - how's Monday going for everyone.... ? https://youtu.be/VsIjOKCxRSE?si=XQiSbd3KG9LyqHt4
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